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1 | Interserv Operations [po | 26 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest [delivery failure to jreinan@m6.sprynet.com] |
2 | car4doc [car4doc@concent | 11 | Re: Quitin-engines |
3 | "Huub Pennings" [HPS@fs1 | 19 | Re: re:Quitin-engines |
4 | "Adams, Bill" [badams@us | 14 | N-N-N-Ninteen MPG... |
5 | reynoldsg@tfn.com (Geoff | 31 | Re: unsubscribe |
6 | matt nelson [nelsml73@sn | 18 | Re: Parabolic springs |
7 | matt nelson [nelsml73@sn | 18 | Parabolic springs source in holland!!! |
8 | kelliott@intranet.ca (Ke | 28 | Re: unsubscribe |
9 | Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo | 21 | Re: unsubscribe |
10 | Russ Wilson [rwilson@usa | 25 | Re: unsubscribe |
11 | "barnett childress" [bar | 11 | fwd: BSROA outing |
12 | "barnett childress" [bar | 29 | BSROA outing |
13 | Eric Zipkin [ericz@cloud | 43 | Re: unsubscribe |
14 | "Dan Prasada-Rao (301)75 | 21 | Re: Dist Self Destruct/Cheep 2.25 motors for sale |
15 | "barnett childress" [bar | 11 | BSROA outing |
16 | Mike Johnson [johnsonm@b | 20 | Re: BSROA outing |
17 | RoverNut@aol.com | 21 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
18 | RoverNut@aol.com | 28 | Bandwidth |
19 | defender@ibm.net | 8 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
20 | Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo | 14 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
21 | Paul Walsh [Walsh@eumets | 7 | subscribe lro-digest |
22 | "Jeffrey A. Berg" [jeff@ | 77 | In defense of Spenny (List oriented, not Rover, content) |
23 | Michael Carradine [carra | 52 | Re/6: unsubscribe |
24 | gpool@pacific.net (Granv | 17 | Re: In defense of Spenny (List oriented, not Rover, content) |
25 | john cranfield [john.cra | 17 | Re: unsubscribe |
26 | john cranfield [john.cra | 16 | Re: In defense of Spenny (List oriented, not Rover, content) |
27 | john cranfield [john.cra | 16 | Re: unsubscribe |
28 | "barnett childress" [bar | 50 | Re: BSROA outing |
29 | "Jeffrey A. Berg" [jeff@ | 15 | Mangled "Spenny" message apologies |
30 | Autoconv@aol.com | 11 | Re: Famous 4/100" (coil list where) |
31 | Michael Carradine [carra | 52 | Re/6: unsubscribe |
32 | Steve Fullwood [ansdf@tt | 5 | [not specified] |
33 | "Chris Weinbeck, Office | 25 | 88" FS $?? |
34 | Ryan Oliver Emge [crkemg | 11 | Re: BSROA outing |
35 | matt Nelson [nelsml73@sn | 7 | Re: 88" FS $?? |
36 | CIrvin1258@aol.com | 13 | Re: 88" FS $?? |
37 | "Jeffrey A. Berg" [jeff@ | 37 | RTV, gaskets and gasoline... |
38 | SPYDERS@aol.com | 15 | Land Rover FAQ page |
39 | RykRover@aol.com | 10 | Re: unsubscribe |
40 | matt Nelson [nelsml73@sn | 19 | 88 and 109 prices |
41 | defender@ibm.net | 14 | Re: 88 and 109 prices |
42 | defender@ibm.net | 20 | 97 D90 WATERPROOFING |
43 | RykRover@aol.com | 8 | Re: In defense of Spenny (List oriented, not Rover, content) |
44 | Clayton Kirkwood [kirkwo | 29 | Re: 97 D90 WATERPROOFING |
45 | Tony Treace [atreace@HAS | 33 | RE: 88 and 109 prices |
46 | dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o | 12 | Series III cupholders |
47 | "Christopher H. Dow" [do | 15 | Re: Series III cupholders |
48 | JSmallals@aol.com | 16 | Help!!!! Confused about wiring!!! |
49 | "Christopher H. Dow" [do | 30 | Re: Help!!!! Confused about wiring!!! |
50 | john cranfield [john.cra | 19 | Re: Help!!!! Confused about wiring!!! |
51 | nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.one | 15 | RE: 88 and 109 prices |
52 | CIrvin1258@aol.com | 11 | Re: N-N-N-Ninteen MPG... |
53 | Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml | 23 | Thrust Washers - Thanks |
54 | David Cockey [dcockey@ti | 19 | Re: Waxoylin' da bulkhead |
55 | pscales@blvl.igs.net (P. | 13 | Re: 88 and 109 prices |
56 | Eric Zipkin [ericz@cloud | 20 | Re: Series III cupholders |
57 | Matthew Wilson [bogatyr@ | 33 | Re: 88 and 109 prices |
58 | "Christopher H. Dow" [do | 28 | Re: Series III cupholders |
59 | Eric Zipkin [ericz@cloud | 20 | Re: Series III cupholders |
60 | Chris [copythis@msn.com> | 21 | 1957 SERIS I FOR SALE |
61 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 22 | Bonnet locks |
62 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 23 | 7:1 v 8:1 |
63 | NADdMD@aol.com | 15 | Drop Arm Removal Suggestions |
64 | "CEGEME" [ivon-gm@satlin | 11 | Inquire |
65 | RoverNut@aol.com | 33 | Fwd: No Subject |
66 | RykRover@aol.com | 10 | Re: unsubscribe |
67 | Ketil Oftedahl [Ketil.Of | 15 | Re: Land Rover FAQ page |
68 | William Caloccia [calocc | 31 | [not specified] |
69 | Andy Phillips [AnPi@serv | 27 | RE: 97 D90 WATERPROOFING |
70 | JSmallals@aol.com | 14 | Help???Confused about wiring--more details |
71 | Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo | 13 | Re: Series III cupholders |
72 | Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo | 31 | Re: Help!!!! Confused about wiring!!! |
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:15:13 -0700 From: Interserv Operations <postmaster@sprynet.com> Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest [delivery failure to jreinan@m6.sprynet.com] The message that you sent to the above recipient was not delivered. All mail sent to this account will continue to be returned until the recipient has removed enough mail to lower the mailbox size below the system mailbox limit. -- Sprynet Network Operations Center Postmaster@sprynet.com 2001 6th Ave. Suite 3025B noc@interserv.net Seattle, WA. 95121 CompuServe/Internet Division -----[ Orginal mail message follows ]------------- > are proudly sponsored by the > Empire Rover Owners Society > "Serving the Great State of New York, the Empire State, > and former British Colonials, everywhere !" > Tired of Too Much E-mail ? -- Go Wired ! read this digest daily at [ truncated by list-digester (was 396 lines)] > ------------------------------ > From: "K. John Wood" <jwrover@colo-net.com> ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 06:49:08 -0500 From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net> Subject: Re: Quitin-engines Hi Quintin, I would be interested in one or two of those axles but I would also need to locate replacement front brakes for my 88. Any luck with those parts? -- Rob Davis_Chicago ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Huub Pennings" <HPS@fs1-kfih.azr.nl> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:37:56 +0100 Subject: Re: re:Quitin-engines Quintin wrote, >Alas no the engines are Petrol ones. >I can get mil rebuilt SIII transmisions. Not sure on the price yet >tho. What would be the price of these SIII transmisions, in England that is (i'm living in Holland and could pick it up myself)Regards, Huub Pennings e-mail adress Pennings@kfih.azr.nl ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 7:49:26 -0400 From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov> Subject: N-N-N-Ninteen MPG... I hate to keep rubbing it in, but my diesel still gets over 25 MPG. Diesel fuel is currently about the same price as regular benzine. So what if I get passed on the highway by EVERYBODY ! Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon, '81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard: "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching" ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:37:48 -0400 From: reynoldsg@tfn.com (Geoffrey Reynolds) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Spencer K. C. Norcross <spencern@acr.org> wrote: > Some loser wrote... >> I would also like to see all mail dealing with '88 Range Rovers and >> on up. > I would like to see a bloody great pyre with range rover owners like > you on it >> Until that day, I will not be subscribing to this mail server. Bye >> all.... > Good riddance! There's absolutely no need for the obnoxious nature of this post. Why not NICELY suggest the Coil Sprung list to the original poster? Though I own only a coil sprung Rover, I read this list too because I find the information generally interesting. However, I just don't understand the hostility that I see from some folks... Jeff Reynolds 1995 Beluga Black Discovery (minus that silly spoiler thingy) Rovers North Roof Rack 4 Hella Rallye 4000's 1 Hella Work Lamp ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:41:54 -0700 From: matt nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Re: Parabolic springs I just got this reply reguarding the availability of Parabolic springs from the UK... "---------- Yes, from Chris Perfect Components tel: 01570 423206. Well recommended! Regards, Tony Pritchard Tony Pritchard <tony@mart4by4.demon.co.uk>" So now I guess we have two sources, great basin and this UK place ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:47:31 -0700 From: matt nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Parabolic springs source in holland!!! I got a reply from the Company in the netherlands that had parabolic springs, now there are three sources... the message from holland follows, I guess he no longer has email but he included a fax # for his business... Hope this helps some other people out because I just ordered regular springs:( "Today I have read this message of you, but unfortunately this e-mail account is not valid anymore. Please can you send me your adress to me by fax? My faxnumber is + 31 71-515 65 86. Many greetings, Paul Heijstee T.I. Console" ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:49:15 -0400 (EDT) From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott) Subject: Re: unsubscribe >Spencer K. C. Norcross <spencern@acr.org> wrote: >> Some loser wrote... >>> I would also like to see all mail dealing with '88 Range Rovers and > [ truncated by lro-lite (was 8 lines)] >>> all.... >> Good riddance! >There's absolutely no need for the obnoxious nature of this post. Why [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)] >There's absolutely no need for the obnoxious nature of this post. Why >not NICELY suggest the Coil Sprung list to the original poster? I can't speak for Spencer but I think that the tone of the original posters note did not sound very good. I know when I read it I was a little bent also ( sounds like a through-back to the days of the list split). I'm sure if he had simply asked if there was anywhere that he could get information about Rangies then he would have been nicely pointed to the coil sprung list, but instead he came out sounding rather snotty. Us leaf owners will defend our vehicles to the end. Keith 1961 Series II 88" Ottawa ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:49:20 -0400 Subject: Re: unsubscribe Re: Hostility: I don't think that would have happened had the poster not been an obvious "taker", rather than a participant. I found the attitude of "I only want to hear what applies to me - sod the rest of it", with the implicit overtones of "deliver unto me what I demand" to be most galling....Spencer didn't say one word I (and I'll lay odds many others) didn't think. This is a participatory foum - and some people just don't get that concept. To these I bid a fond farewell - join, comment, participate but don't sit there and be a leech. aj"In the spirit of discussion - not being antagonisic!"r ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:01:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Wilson <rwilson@usaor.net> Subject: Re: unsubscribe >Spencer K. C. Norcross <spencern@acr.org> wrote: >> Some loser wrote... >>> I would also like to see all mail dealing with '88 Range Rovers and > [ truncated by lro-lite (was 8 lines)] >>> all.... >> Good riddance! [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)] >find the information generally interesting. However, I just don't >understand the hostility that I see from some folks... I've had dealings with Mr. Norcross in the past. He can be such a troglodyte ( I hope he reads this!) Some people can just be so rude to other people without any concern for THEIR feelings. Spencer... you should be ashamed of yourself. Russ Wilson Leslie Bittner Fort Pitt Land Rover Group Pittsburgh's Smallest, Biggest, Best, Worst, and Only Land Rover Club ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 9:08:01 -0400 From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%eng%emchop1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com> Subject: fwd: BSROA outing ________ Reply Separator ______ > From: barnett childress@eng@emchop1, on 10/14/97 12:17 PM: ------------- [ truncated by list-digester (was 54 lines)] > 95 D90 (Ol' Yeller) > w/stuff ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 9:11:26 -0400 From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%eng%emchop1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com> Subject: BSROA outing All, this went out to RRO yesterday but the major won't let me forward the message So... Saturday, Nov. 1st 9AM sharp. Off road day from my house in sturbridge MA. trail rated 4-5 overall with some tougher spots. Limit of 15 vehicles. Mandatory minimum eq: 1)Proper recovery points f/r 2)Shovel 3)full size spare 4)tow strap Bring own lunch and non-alcoholic beverage for lunch. Trail sd/be 4-5 hrs. A few good spots for a meal and brews afterwards if anyone interested. If you would like to go please e-mail me back direct. Cheers, Barnett 95 D90 (Ol' Yeller w/stuff ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:39:35 -0400 From: Eric Zipkin <ericz@cloud9.net> Subject: Re: unsubscribe I'd just like to echo Spenny's sentiments...if this individual in question had asked for information about his vehicle we would have either been helped to the best of our ability or pointed to the CSO. Instead came a rather snotty-toned announcement that he didn't find much information about his particular type of Rover and therefore didn't have time for us. The dichotomy in Rover ownership lies not in the type of suspension under your vehicle but in your attitude towards life. I enjoy the company of Rover people (and spend a good part of my year travelling to hang out with them). They are casual, down-to-earth, helpful, intelligent, and open-minded. Because the current-model Rovers are aimed to "conspicuous consumers" they generally don't attract the types of people that I like to hang around with. Don't get me wrong, I have great friends who own Discos, Rangies or D90s...they are, however, the exception rather than the rule. This indiviual who signed off the list touched a nerve felt by many...he conveyed a snobbery about his particular vehicle that is not consistent with what I know it is to be a Rover owner. Rgds, Eric Zipkin Bedford, NY USA Whorehouse Red, Canadian-Pinstripped SIII 109" V8 Lots of lights and fancy bells and whistles..... ...that don't make one lousy bit a difference. At 08:37 AM 10/15/97 -0400, you wrote: >Spencer K. C. Norcross <spencern@acr.org> wrote: >> Some loser wrote... >>> I would also like to see all mail dealing with '88 Range Rovers and > [ truncated by lro-lite (was 8 lines)] >>> all.... [ truncated by list-digester (was 24 lines)] >4 Hella Rallye 4000's >1 Hella Work Lamp ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:50:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Prasada-Rao (301)757-1479 X26" <prasadaraodp.nimitz@NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL> Subject: Re: Dist Self Destruct/Cheep 2.25 motors for sale >From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org >Date: Fri, 10 Oct 97 08:23:14 EST >Subject: Re: Distributor Self Destruct/Engine Noise HELP!! >Stop trying to speculate what the problem is. Either fix it, or replace >the engine, or just live with it. You're absolutely right. >From: QROVER80@aol.com >Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:08:59 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Cheep 2.25 motors for sale Sign me up for one. In view of my current problems I need a complete motor including DISTRIBUTOR and CARB. BTW what will it take to make these 24Volt motors work with a 12Volt car. Is it a simple matter of swapping out the Alt/Gen or is there something more that is required? ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 9:55:34 -0400 From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%eng%emchop1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com> Subject: BSROA outing Hi all, I forgot to mention (and have been politely reminded) that this is a BSROA club event. So is only open to BSROA club members. Cheers, Barnett ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:14:19 -0400 From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com> Subject: Re: BSROA outing barnett childress wrote: > I forgot to mention (and have been politely reminded) that this is a BSROA > club event. So is only open to BSROA club members. Maybe if it were open to all you may getsome new members, Or maybe you should'nt use this forum to post your bill. You may want to start your very own BSROAnet. Saddly not invited....:( end Mike Johnson johnsonm@borg.com http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest In a message dated 97-10-15 07:15:08 EDT, you write: << There is just too much mail being sent over through my bandwidth, plus I would like my Land Rover mail to deal with '88 Range Rovers and up. I'd like to see this down the road, so for now..bye all.... >> Then go to the coilers list and don't let the door hit you in the a*s on the way out. See you there. Alex 89RR 69 IIA 93 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Bandwidth --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Date: 97-10-15 10:17:40 EDT From: RoverNut In a message dated 97-10-15 07:15:08 EDT, you write: << There is just too much mail being sent over through my bandwidth, plus I would like my Land Rover mail to deal with '88 Range Rovers and up. I'd like to see this down the road, so for now..bye all.... >> Then go to the coilers list and don't let the door hit you in the a*s on the way out. See you there. Alex 89RR 69 IIA 93 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: defender@ibm.net Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:24:13 -0700 Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Man, this is surely a great deal of hostility first thing in the morning...almost makes me want to go back to bed :> ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:43:45 -0400 Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Defender@ibm.net said: >Man, this is surely a great deal of hostility first thing in the >morning...almost makes me want to go back to bed :> So get up earlier.....makes the hosility more tolerable. 8*) aj"4:30 AM EST for me..."r ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:08:29 +0100 From: Paul Walsh <Walsh@eumetsat.de> Subject: subscribe lro-digest subscribe lro-digest ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:36:29 -0400 From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com> Subject: In defense of Spenny (List oriented, not Rover, content) There's absolutely no need for the obnoxious nature of this post. The short answer: It amuses us. That's need enough. For justification (not that I need to justify my actions to all of you) read on... However, I just don't understand the hostility that I see from some folks... You said it, you just don't understand. But I'll give you a clue: Spenny isn't hostile. Unless of course you happen to be around while he's wearing his kilt AND drinking single malt. Then he channels his Scots ancestors in frightening ways. Spen's humor has been part of this list for a long time though, and his *contributions to the community* are appreciated by more than a few of us. So I enjoyed his remarks about Ryan O. Emge's self-centered behavior. Ryan's *Me Me Me* attitude rings through clearly--though I'd agree he might not have meant to sound that way. If he wants a list to follow those specifications he should create one rather than "laying it out there" as a project for Bill or another. Don't worry Ryan, we'll phone you up when "Ryan's 1988 and Up Range Rover" list and web site are done. (And to quote Jimmy Buffett, "If the phone doesn't ring, it's me.") Furthermore, I think Spenny showed remarkable restraint by not pointing out that Ryan, a self-proclaimed Technical Support Specialist for some sort of network operation, shows total incompetence when it comes to following simple instructions. Ryan sent three identical messages to the list in his (failed) attempt to unsubscribe. Wrong, wrong, wrong. The correct procedure is outlined in the initial message you receive when you sign on--and on the WWW site if you toss the message. See it for yourself at lro-info.html#how. Posting a note to the list at large to unsubscribe is unecessary and useless. It's an automated process handled through a special email acccount, mailto://majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net . If this is too hard, Bill C. has taken the time to provide a form on the WWW site to do the work for you. So, unlike Spenny's witty comments, the three unsubscribe messages were an uninteresting waste of my limited "personal bandwidth" (that stuff don't grow on trees you know!) Especially as I really don't care why people choose not to keep subscribing--more so when it's to the tune of "this list doesn't meet my personal expectations, so until you all decide to change..." Just go, have a good life, you won't be missed here. (Regular contributors who are leaving should post a brief notice though. Just so we don't worry about ya! Try not to use "unsubscribe" as the subject though--a lot of us would skip over it.) And if *we* were really going to be obnoxious... (Regular contributors who are leaving should post a brief notice though. Rovers North Roof Rack 4 Hella Rallye 4000's 1 Hella Work Lamp (Regular contributors who are leaving should post a brief notice though. ;-) Okay, I'll behave now. Peace, love and Rovers. Jeff Berg 1967 Series IIa "FINSUP" 4 tires (19 wheel studs) New SS gas tank Lots of little stuff that nobody cares about ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:53:32 -0700 From: Michael Carradine <carradine@landrover.net> Subject: Re/6: unsubscribe I hope Ryan read my personal note yesterday redirecting him to the proper mailing list (below) before reading the overt rudeness displayed by some on this list. What is the point of these embarrassing messages? The person has left and will not respond anyway. Is this rudeness and posturing machismo? Laughably not! This infantile behaviour compares no less to masturbating in public. Please keep it to yourselves!! Regards, Michael Carradine ___,_\__ www.landrover.net Architect [_______] 50-80, 72-88, 89-RR Land Rovers 510-988-0900 _______.._(o)_.(o)__..o^^ POBox 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - At 09:20 AM 10/14/97 -0700, Ryan O. Emge wrote: : Ryan, As the above header states, write to: majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net to change your subscription status put: unsubscribe lro in the *body* of the *text*, not the Subject line. Sounds like you would rather be on the Range Rover Owners list. If so, write to Majordomo and write: subscribe rro Both commands to the Major can be in the same message. Cheers, -Michael Carradine www.landrover.net www.unimog.net : There is just too much mail being sent over through my bandwidth, plus I :would like my Land Rover mail to deal with '88 Range Rovers and up. I'd :like to see this down the road, so for now..bye all.... : : , Ryan OIliver Emge : :Ryan Oliver Emge __----__ :MonadNet Technical Support ____------------`--_____ :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :MonadNet Corporation | E-mail: remge@top.monad.net | TollFree:(800)576-1019 :39 Central Square | Tech Support: (603)357-1894 | Fax:(603)357-1267 :Keene, NH 03431-3936 ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT) From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool) Subject: Re: In defense of Spenny (List oriented, not Rover, content) Gee, Jeff, A whole flame war about which I knew nothing? Your subject line caught my attention so I looked (I mean, what could old-timer Spenny have done that would necessitate that someone defend him?). I haven't a clue about what has been going on. I delete about 75% of the messages from this list, based upon subject lines, and just read the interesting stuff. Works well, apparently! Peacefully Roving, Granny ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:06:46 -0300 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: unsubscribe Eric Zipkin wrote: > I'd just like to echo Spenny's sentiments...if this individual in question > had asked for information about his vehicle we would have either been > helped to the best of our ability or pointed to the CSO. Instead came a > rather snotty-toned announcement that he didn't find much information about > his particular type of Rover and therefore didn't have time for us. > The dichotomy in Rover ownership lies not in the type of suspension under [ truncated by list-digester (was 36 lines)] > >4 Hella Rallye 4000's > >1 Hella Work Lamp Dichotomy! My what a big word for zippy tow truck driver ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:14:20 -0300 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: In defense of Spenny (List oriented, not Rover, content) Jeffrey A. Berg wrote: > There's absolutely no need for the obnoxious nature of this post. > The short answer: It amuses us. That's need enough. > For justification (not that I need to justify my actions to all of you) > read on... [ truncated by list-digester (was 73 lines)] > New SS gas tank > Lots of little stuff that nobody cares about The Geek is totally Wrong. Jimmy Buffet never said that. John Cranfield and Muddy ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:18:25 -0300 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: unsubscribe john cranfield wrote: > Eric Zipkin wrote: > > I'd just like to echo Spenny's sentiments...if this individual in question > > had asked for information about his vehicle we would have either been > [ truncated by lro-lite (was 36 lines)] > > >4 Hella Rallye 4000's > > >1 Hella Work Lamp The major's been at it again1 I sent a meaning less piece of drivel to tease Zippy John Cranfield and Muddy ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 11:59:59 -0400 From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%eng%emchop1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com> Subject: Re: BSROA outing Mike and all, First off I appologize if I have offended anyone. Second, I'm not the BSROA posterboy, but I am a member. I'm also a member of the EC4WDA open to all makes of vehicles. I joined these clubs as a way of meeting other folks that share a common interest. When I go off roading I'm usually with 3 or 4 other Rover owners or J##P, T##ota, etc that just like to go out and have a good time. I was asked to try and organize an event for the BSROA because their off road events can be few and far between at times. They are trying to correct this by adding more events. I'm not involved with the club business in any way and don't want to be. I write an occasional column for the newsletter, thats it. In trying to do something nice for others I don't want to get labeled as an elitist or an assh#le. My offer still stands. If their are folks out there that are not BSROA members and would like to come along to check out the club I think thats great. I still need to limit the overall # to around 15 vehicles. If there are others interested in going on a trail ride with me and could care less about joining the BSROA thats fine to. I'll be glad to do a second run on another day. How about the following weekend Saturday, Nov 8th? I'm fanatic about Rovers period. Anyone that knows me should realize this by now. All I ask is have the right minimum gear, and a friendly attitude. I would love to meet you and any others, so let's go have some fun off road. It's up to you let me know. P.S. I apologize for using the list to contact interested people but it's the only way I have to talk to everyone. Cheers and hope to meet you, Barnett 95 D90 (because thats the Rover "I" fell in love with) ________ Reply Separator ______ > From: "Mike Johnson" <johnsonm@borg.com>, on 10/15/97 11:14 AM: ------------- [ truncated by list-digester (was 23 lines)] > johnsonm@borg.com > http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:32:11 -0400 From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com> Subject: Mangled "Spenny" message apologies My "In defense of Spenny" rant got a bit garbled by Eudora Pro when I chose to remove styles. Specifically, the three sections of Geoffrey Reynolds' message that I quoted were not marked as such, and for some reason the "(Regular contributors" phrase got repeated twice, bracketing the final quote. I'm not going to repost the thing for clarity--to long. Sorry if this causes any more confusion on an issue that's been beaten to death. RoverOn! jab ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Autoconv@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Famous 4/100" (coil list where) David You mention a coil list, where ? David ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:25:42 -0700 From: Michael Carradine <carradine@landrover.net> Subject: Re/6: unsubscribe I hope Ryan read my personal note yesterday redirecting him to the proper mailing list (below), and before reading the overt rudeness displayed by some on this list. What is the point of these embarrassing messages? The person has left and will not respond anyway. Is this rudeness and posturing machismo? Laughably not! This infantile behaviour compares no less than to masturbating in public. Please keep it to yourselves!! Regards, Michael Carradine ___,_\__ www.landrover.net Architect [_______] 50-80, 72-88, 89-RR Land Rovers 510-988-0900 _______.._(o)_.(o)__..o^^ POBox 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - At 09:20 AM 10/14/97 -0700, Ryan O. Emge wrote: : Ryan, As the above header states, write to: majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net to change your subscription status put: unsubscribe lro in the *body* of the *text*, not the Subject line. Sounds like you would rather be on the Range Rover Owners list. If so, write to Majordomo and write: subscribe rro Both commands to the Major can be in the same message. Cheers, -Michael Carradine www.landrover.net www.unimog.net : There is just too much mail being sent over through my bandwidth, plus I :would like my Land Rover mail to deal with '88 Range Rovers and up. I'd :like to see this down the road, so for now..bye all.... : : , Ryan OIliver Emge : :Ryan Oliver Emge __----__ :MonadNet Technical Support ____------------`--_____ :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :MonadNet Corporation | E-mail: remge@top.monad.net | TollFree:(800)576-1019 :39 Central Square | Tech Support: (603)357-1894 | Fax:(603)357-1267 :Keene, NH 03431-3936 ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:58:06 -0500 From: Steve Fullwood <ansdf@ttacs1.ttu.edu> unsuscribe LRO ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Chris Weinbeck, Office Logic, Inc." <cmw@tiac.net> Subject: 88" FS $?? Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:18:08 -0400 Hi all. Just got off the phone from talking with David Skrocki (Mark Talbot found his '66 88" for sale in NH). Well he got a few calls and changed his price. He now figures it's worth a good $1000. I don't know about anyone else, but I get completely turned off when someone changes the price. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christopher Weinbeck Office Logic, Inc. V (508) 392-0288 ______ 7 Littleton Road F (508) 692-0897 |__][_[_\__ Westford, MA 01886 Computerization for |___\_|_]__] the healthcare (o) (o) '69 109" RHD OD 2.6 Dormobile professional Ask me about East Coast Rover Co. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:19:44 -0700 From: Ryan Oliver Emge <crkemge@javanet.com> Subject: Re: BSROA outing barnett childress wrote: > ________ Reply Separator ______ > Barnett [ truncated by list-digester (was 26 lines)] > 39 Central Square | Tech Support: (603)357-1894 | Fax:(603)357-1267 > Keene, NH 03431-3936 ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:22:32 -0700 From: matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Re: 88" FS $?? I agree, too bad no one got it at less $$$ The frame is probably beat anyway. Still changing the price is bad form. ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: CIrvin1258@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: 88" FS $?? He changed the price?!?!?! What a jerk! Boycott him for a few months, then offer him $100. Charles ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:07:29 -0400 From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com> Subject: RTV, gaskets and gasoline... Thanks to all who chimed in with their feelings about RTV's unsuitablity for use near gasoline. Although the gaskets in question aren't immersed in fuel, I've heard enough to cause me to "rethink" the project. Along with my new wheel stud and lug nut (remember those impact driven lugs?) I ordered genuine gaskets for the fuel guage sender and pickup tube. May as well do it correctly. (Meanwhile, if the sediment bowl doesn't catch the gooey bits, I'm hoping that the inline fuel filter near the carb will!) RoverOn! jeff 67 Series IIa 88 "Finsup" 4 Tires (19 wheel studs...#20 on the way) New SS gas tank (Smokers rejoice: soon w/ proper gaskets) Right Hella H4 headlamp (intact) Left Hella H4 headlamp (cracked) Left marker light (Burned out) == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT mailto:jeff@purpleshark.com "Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life, or he who has stayed securely on the shore and merely existed?" Hunter S. Thompson, age seventeen ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SPYDERS@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Land Rover FAQ page I can't seem to remember whose LR site had the FAQ page on it; I know it wasn't LRNA's... Can someone forward the URL to me? Thanks, pat 93 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Spencer , how is it that you piss soooooooooooo many people off, when those of us around you , just love ya soooooo much. :^) RGDS, Rick V. ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:49:21 -0700 From: matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: 88 and 109 prices I was wondering what the prices of unrestored "project" landrovers were like in other parts of NA. Her ethey generally go for $400-$1000 apiece with questionable frames etc. The $ 1000 ones don't sell period. There is not much of a landrover following here and there are about only three moving units in the county that I know of(Otsego County NY, USA). there are a reasonably high number off in fields and hedgerows but they are all 88's. 109's are none existant. sas for coilers there are some rangies, and one 110 but no 90's. I just was wondering what it was like elsewhere? Matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: defender@ibm.net Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:57:49 -0700 Subject: Re: 88 and 109 prices I believe that someone was asking about a URL for a land roverr faq. I think that this may be the correct one. www.land-rover.team.net/empire/ Regards William ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: defender@ibm.net Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:04:29 -0700 Subject: 97 D90 WATERPROOFING I do a lot of river/creek bed runs. As you know, the 4.0 D90 is not verry fond of water. I am curious of what all would need to be water proofed. I have a plan for the computer that I think will work. I am going to build a 1/2 inch plexi glass case for it and then cilicon the whole thing shut. I will just have to cut it open when it needs to be accessed. Does anyone see a problem with this? I think the only concern would be that it may over heat. Does anyone think that overheating would be a problem? I think that the only things that I need to do is water-proof the computer, get a snorkle, and waterproof the distributor cap. thanks for any input. William 1997 arles blue d90 wagon ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: In defense of Spenny (List oriented, not Rover, content) HEAR, HEAR, Jeff well said. Rick , Take your attitude elsewhere, Valentino ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:12:05 -0700 From: Clayton Kirkwood <kirkwood@kirkwood-desk.fm.intel.com> Subject: Re: 97 D90 WATERPROOFING At 05:04 PM 10/15/97 -0700, defender@ibm.net wrote: >I do a lot of river/creek bed runs. As you know, the 4.0 D90 is not >verry fond of water. I am curious of what all would need to be water >proofed. I have a plan for the computer that I think will work. I am >going to build a 1/2 inch plexi glass case for it and then cilicon the >whole thing shut. I will just have to cut it open when it needs to be >accessed. Does anyone see a problem with this? I think the only [ truncated by list-digester (was 13 lines)] >need to do is water-proof the computer, get a snorkle, and waterproof >the distributor cap. thanks for any input. A big no go!!!! Don't do it. The computer needs oxygen and nitrogen and will quickly suffocate if you do what you are proposing. You *must* provide air holes for it to breathe. Clayton >William > 1997 arles blue d90 wagon >proofed. I have a plan for the computer that I think will work. I am >going to build a 1/2 inch plexi glass case for it and then cilicon the >whole thing shut. I will just have to cut it open when it needs to be >accessed. Does anyone see a problem with this? I think the only ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Tony Treace <atreace@HASimons.com> Subject: RE: 88 and 109 prices Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:30:34 -0700 > I was wondering what the prices of unrestored "project" landrovers > were > like in other parts of NA. Her ethey generally go for $400-$1000 > apiece > with questionable frames etc. The $ 1000 ones don't sell period. > there are a reasonably high number off in fields and hedgerows but > they [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)] > are all 88's. 109's are none existant. > I just was wondering what it was like elsewhere? I bought my project 109 SW (engine runs OK, 60k, mint frame, the usual dents, brake and clutch hydraulics shot, Warn winch) for $2600 about 18 months ago. It was the first 'project' 109SW I was able to find in the Southeast. I later came across two more, but they were in much worse condition and the asking price was in the $3000-4000 range. My first 88 (same condition as the 109SW, but with a Koenig winch) cost $800 about 5 years ago. Project rovers south of the Mason-Dixon line are more rare than in northern states, but are usually in much better shape. Best advice: Keep about $1500 handy and drive with your head on a swivel like the rest of us. Good hunting. Tony Treace atreace@hasimons.com 1967 109SW 1951 80 HT ------------------------------[ <- Message 46 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 17:33:28 EST Subject: Series III cupholders has anyone found a good place to mount a cupholder in a SIII? right now mine (bike style water bottle holder) is on the face of the hand throttle, not the greatest location. later DaveB. ------------------------------[ <- Message 47 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:40:48 -0700 From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> Subject: Re: Series III cupholders dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org wrote: 8< > has anyone found a good place to mount a cupholder in a SIII? right > now mine (bike style water bottle holder) is on the face of the hand > throttle, not the greatest location. 8< I use the cupholders that came with my Tuffy center console thingy. They'll probably get in the way of an overdrive lever, however. C ------------------------------[ <- Message 48 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: JSmallals@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Help!!!! Confused about wiring!!! Hello all, I am converting my 66IIA to an alternator and have fitted a Delco aternator, but am confused...the power is hooked up, the field wire (red) is going to the power post, but where does the resistance wire (white) go??? I was told it needs to go someplace that is hot otherwise the alt. won't charge unless the truck reaches about 1500 rpm...Can anyone tell me what to do with the white wire? Where do I attach it to? many thanks, James Small Denver, Colorado ------------------------------[ <- Message 49 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:50:18 -0700 From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> Subject: Re: Help!!!! Confused about wiring!!! JSmallals@aol.com wrote: > Hello all, > I am converting my 66IIA to an alternator and have fitted a Delco > aternator, but am confused...the power is hooked up, the field wire > (red) is going to the power post, but where does the resistance wire > (white) go??? I was told it needs to go someplace that is hot > otherwise the alt. won't charge unless the truck reaches about 1500 > rpm...Can anyone tell me what to do with the white wire? Where do I > attach it to? James, I used a 10-gauge red wire from the lug on the alternator to the -V post on the battery, and a read 16-guage wire from the #1 (sense) spade on the alternator to the -V post on the battery. I then connected white 16-guage wire from the #2 spade on the alternator to the charging light (the other side of which is connected to a white ignition wire). You can check out my web page on that at http://www.thelen.org/IIAAlternator.html If you have problems with that URL, please let me know, as at least one other person has had problems with it. C ------------------------------[ <- Message 50 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:45:59 -0300 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Help!!!! Confused about wiring!!! JSmallals@aol.com wrote: > Hello all, > I am converting my 66IIA to an alternator and have fitted a Delco aternator, > but am confused...the power is hooked up, the field wire (red) is going to > the power post, but where does the resistance wire (white) go??? I was told > it needs to go someplace that is hot otherwise the alt. won't charge unless > the truck reaches about 1500 rpm...Can anyone tell me what to do with the > white wire? Where do I attach it to? [ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)] > James Small > Denver, Colorado This wire should be connected to the small wire that comes from the dash charge light(green I think). You will then be able to see if it is charging just asyou did with the generator. all the best John ------------------------------[ <- Message 51 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:07:42 -0400 (EDT) From: nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu Subject: RE: 88 and 109 prices Yeah Project rovers up here are generally terrible shape but so far they have been cheap for me, i've spent 1400 on three 88s, al of which were restorable but I sacraficed one for parts. I could have got a MINT llate 2a 88 with 50.000 miles and a broken frame for FREE but was too stupid to ask, I missed it by a week. it was in beautiful shape with the exception of the frame, the interior was mint!!! as was the exterior. I found out a week after it disappeared that I could have had it just for hauling it away. Nowadays it is somewhere in New Jersey, someone got a great project... ------------------------------[ <- Message 52 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: CIrvin1258@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: N-N-N-Ninteen MPG... My diesel usually gets around 23, though it did stretch a bit on my Nevada trip. Maybe if I balanced my tires, or got NEW tires... Charles ------------------------------[ <- Message 53 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com> Subject: Thrust Washers - Thanks Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:37:36 -0700 Thank you to all who replied with advice regarding the replacement of the crank shaft thrust washers in my '61 88. The job went very well, just undid two bolts on the oil pump and then two more bolts on the bearing cap (we won't mention the half a billion nuts that hold the oil pan on) and that's it! The new oversized washers slipped into place and now the crank is rock steady! And all for just $12.00 including a new pan (sump) gasket! After digging around in the sludge at the bottom of the pan, I found the twisted remains of the old washers. Hopefully the new, much thicker ones will last a bit longer. Paul Quin 1961 Series II 88 (Tom) 1983 BMW 533i (Jerry) Victoria, BC Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 54 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:47:55 -0400 From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com> Subject: Re: Waxoylin' da bulkhead Wayne Haight wrote: > Thanks, I just checked - I have an 8:1. The engine serial number is > 23296A. I am trying to figure out if this is the original engine or > not. > Were 8:1 "A" engines used in 1970 IIA's? The engine serial number should have 8 digits and a suffix letter. 8:1 compression ratio was introduced around 1969, so an A suffix is plausible for a "1970" LR, particularly if the year is based on registration in the US. Regards, David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 55 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:55:46 -0400 (EDT) From: pscales@blvl.igs.net (P.S.) Subject: Re: 88 and 109 prices >I was wondering what the prices of unrestored "project" landrovers were >like in other parts of North America... In the province of Ontario, $2000 (Cdn) gets you a Series II in running condition with a rusty frame. $3000 gets you one that will almost pass the provincial Safety certification. Peter ------------------------------[ <- Message 56 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:08:40 -0400 From: Eric Zipkin <ericz@cloud9.net> Subject: Re: Series III cupholders Roll of duct tape on transmission tunnel works great for me. Rgds, At 02:40 PM 10/15/97 -0700, you wrote: >dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org wrote: >8< >> has anyone found a good place to mount a cupholder in a SIII? right >> now mine (bike style water bottle holder) is on the face of the hand >> throttle, not the greatest location. >8< [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)] >They'll probably get in the way of an overdrive lever, however. >C ------------------------------[ <- Message 57 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:49:55 -0400 From: Matthew Wilson <bogatyr@pipeline.com> Subject: Re: 88 and 109 prices I found my 88 in a classified paper in upstate NY for 1500. Sure, it needs a frame, serious bulkhead repair, and a host of other things that go if a machine sits for too long, but: it has 40k miles on it runs like new body and glass are good interior mostly good - one seat was shot tons of original goodies - the jack works all documentation AND the original manifest was in the tool bin! they are still out there At 04:49 PM 15-10-97 -0700, you wrote: >I was wondering what the prices of unrestored "project" landrovers were >like in other parts of NA. Her ethey generally go for $400-$1000 apiece >with questionable frames etc. The $ 1000 ones don't sell period. There >is not much of a landrover following here and there are about only >three moving units in the county that I know of(Otsego County NY, USA). [ truncated by list-digester (was 18 lines)] >I just was wondering what it was like elsewhere? >Matt ---------------------------------------- | Everything needed something. | | Some things needed everything. | | Nothing needed nothing. | | -Peter Egan | ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 58 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:15:11 -0700 From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> Subject: Re: Series III cupholders Eric Zipkin wrote: > Roll of duct tape on transmission tunnel works great for me. > Rgds, Hey! Wait a minute! YOU (dba Overland Motors) sold me the Tuffy box! What am I? Some kind of sucker? :-) Aw, anyway I love the box. As I said on Mendo recently, it now has mounted in it: AM/FM/CD CB PCS cell phone Hella Map light (which you also sold me) It's soon to have a GPS, too (it's really going to need it's own wiring harness, I'm afraid). I bolted it onto the center hatch and padlocked that. The whole assembly comes out (snap connectors for electrics) for access to the stuff under the hatch (only needed it for the speedo cable). Pretty geeky, but hey, I live in the Land o' the Geeks (Sillicon Valley). C ------------------------------[ <- Message 59 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:07:46 -0400 From: Eric Zipkin <ericz@cloud9.net> Subject: Re: Series III cupholders True, the Tuffy works better...but if you want to keep your centre seat (if you had one to begin with) and want a dual-purpose solution, the duct tape works fine. Re: Sucker....I wouldn't recommend asking such a question on the list the way thing have been going these days ;) Glad you liked it! Rgds, At 06:15 PM 10/15/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hey! Wait a minute! YOU (dba Overland Motors) sold me the Tuffy box! >What am I? Some kind of sucker? :-) Eric Zipkin Bedford, NY USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 60 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:00:11 -0700 From: Chris <copythis@msn.com> Subject: 1957 SERIS I FOR SALE 1957 LAND ROVER SERIES I, Yellow, This rover is original with the exception of a rebuilt series II motor,(60 miles on rebuild), Was found in a barn in Montana. Rebuild was needed due to an inexperienced do it yourself mechanic attempting to replace piston rings. He could not figure out how to put it back together. Original motor is in pieces in a box. Someone with knowledge should be able to work with it. It was running with 40k on the oedometer when it was removed. No way to confirm the milage but it is in what would consider to be in very good condition. The truck is now in Boston(was trailered), pictures are available. MAKE A REASONABLE OFFER PLEASE EMAIL RESPONSES TO: copythis@msn.com Or call (305) 666-0916 ask for Chris I WILL NOT RESPOND TO MESSAGE BOARD POSTINGS! ------------------------------[ <- Message 61 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:16:10 -0400 (EDT) From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Bonnet locks Following the thread on bonnet locks, the "genuine" mechanism is little more than a standard hasp, but with the normally 'fixed' end bent 90 degrees to fit the structural brace at the front edge of the bonnet. One of the fixing points is one of the existing rivets that has to be removed; the other is a sheet metal screw/pop rivet into the brace. The part that actually holds the lock is affixed to the breakfast and covered by the hasp when closed. Cheers *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. | | "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas" | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) | | 757-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 757-622-7056 | | | *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---* ------------------------------[ <- Message 62 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:16:19 -0400 (EDT) From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: 7:1 v 8:1 Wayne Haight wrote: >Also, How can you tell if an engine is 7:1 or an 8:1 compression ratio? Simple. Look at the head at a point closest to the carb. If there is a raised, square boss, it's an 8:1. (If you clean off the funk, you'll see an "8" stamped there.) If the head is level like the rest of the casting it's a 7:1, though if you skim a 7:1 a time or two, you'll get an 8:1. Cheers *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. | | "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas" | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) | | 757-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 757-622-7056 | | | *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---* ------------------------------[ <- Message 63 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: NADdMD@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Drop Arm Removal Suggestions Hi all, Getting back to the topic, I'm trying to remove the drop arm from a SIII LHD steering box. I have removed the box with arm from the support bracket. I have tried a gear puller and flattened out the end. I have tried drifting the rocker shaft out of the arm but no luck. Do I have to resort to taking this to the machine shop and having it pressed out? Nate ------------------------------[ <- Message 64 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "CEGEME" <ivon-gm@satlink.com> Subject: Inquire Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:32:03 -0300 I've already made a downpayment for a Land Rover Discovery ES 1998, authomatic, with two air bags and leather seats. The dealer tells me it is not possible to get that vehicle in White colour. Is that correct? If you cannot answer that question, could you refer me to another e-mail? Thanks for your time! ------------------------------[ <- Message 65 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RoverNut@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fwd: No Subject --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: No Subject Date: 97-10-15 10:12:33 EDT From: RoverNut In a message dated 97-10-15 03:42:10 EDT, you write: << 1. Are the Solex rebuild kits really available? I'm not sure if the Solex in a LR is the same as one in a BMW2002, but I bought a rebuild kit off of the shelf at a local foreign car parts house. My Landy has a Weber in it. 2. How difficult is rebuilding the Solex? >> Rebuilding the Solex was my first "mechanical" endeavor. I was but a mere pup and I did the whole thing in 1.5 hours. Piece of cake, but clean everything really well. I went through two can of carb and choke cleaner two razors and a tooth brush. ALL old gasket material needs to be removed. Good luck Alex Maiolo 69 IIA 89 RR 93 110 ------------------------------[ <- Message 66 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RykRover@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Spencer , how is it that you piss soooooooooooo many people off, when those of us around you , just love ya soooooo much. :^) RGDS, Rick V. ------------------------------[ <- Message 67 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:03:17 +0200 From: Ketil Oftedahl <Ketil.Oftedahl@robin.no> Subject: Re: Land Rover FAQ page SPYDERS@aol.com wrote: > I can't seem to remember whose LR site had the FAQ page on it; I know it > wasn't LRNA's... > Can someone forward the URL to me? There is a LR FAQ at http://www.off-road.com/LR_FAQ/ Rgds, Ketil ------------------------------[ <- Message 68 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: public invitations only please, not private (BSROA) club announcements. Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 02:15:01 -0400 From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com> Barnett, If it is a BSROA event and not open to others, then you should not be using this public forum to advertise it. (apologies accepted :-) Not to piss off any of your fellow club members, the reasoning for this reqeust goes like this: The I'll ask you to kindly keep these private matters off the LRO mailing lists. This is not a public forum for private business, be it of commercial nature or not. You really ought to use a private list if don't want others to participate. You'll notice other announcments here are for public invitations, not private ones. Regards, Bill Caloccia wpc@Caloccia.Net http://www.Caloccia.Net/wpc/ R http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/ R 1 3 2wd H OD D +--|--| o | | L 3 Land Rovers First 2 4 4wd L N | 2 because '63 SII RHD 88" H 1 Land Rovers Last 793-PTA '90 RR County ------------------------------[ <- Message 69 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andy Phillips <AnPi@serviceteam.co.uk> Subject: RE: 97 D90 WATERPROOFING Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:26:23 +0100 Give the PC some air! Try a Plexiglas case with a mechanism for circulating the air. It doesn't have to be a fan just enough holes to allow cool air in. I'm assuming you have a laptop of course and in my experience they will happily lock up when things get too warm for their liking, i.e. the processor heats up too much. As for the other bits requiring waterproofing I can't help I'm afraid as I have a diesel with a snorkel and (when I finally go in) wet feet presumably! Good luck! Andy. > -----Original Message----- > From: defender@ibm.net [SMTP:defender@ibm.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 1997 1:04 AM > To: lro@playground.sun.com > Subject: 97 D90 WATERPROOFING [ truncated by list-digester (was 25 lines)] > William > 1997 arles blue d90 wagon ------------------------------[ <- Message 70 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: JSmallals@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Help???Confused about wiring--more details Everyone, Just thought I should explain a bit more...it is a delco alternator I am mounting and the white wire is labeled R (resistence?) and the red wire is labeled F (field?). I know I need to bypass the voltage regulator, as the new alternator has an internal regulator...I need to know how to connect the new alternator...what wire is connected where and do I use the existing generator wiring??? James "Confused in Denver" Small ------------------------------[ <- Message 71 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:40:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Series III cupholders First off, get yourself a walnut dashboard. Then go to the nearest ship chandler's - they sell swiveling drink holders in stainless that work well. Barring that, an old fire-extinguisher mount screwed to the front of the bulkhead might work... ------------------------------[ <- Message 72 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:46:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Help!!!! Confused about wiring!!! First off, you're a bit confused on the wires..... (no biggie - we all have our days...<grin>) There are three leads coming from a Delco internally-regulated alternator - the large post on the back, and a red and white wire coming from a 2-lug connector on the side. The large lug is the charging output - the connection on this one is obviuous. The other two are respectively the sense lead (the red one) and the warning light lead (the white one). The sense lead should be run to a lug on the fusebox and not to the output lug on the alternator. The reason for this is voltage drop - if you sense the output voltage right at the alternator it's not compensating for the losses in the wiring between the alternator and the fuse block. The warning light lead goes to the wire that was once connected to the old voltage regulator, but is now free and runs to the charging warning lamp on your panel. Take a look at www.off-road.com\OVLR - under Al Richer's section you'll find a thorough tutorial on swapping your genny for an alternator (including mounting info...). ajr ------------------------------[ <- Message 73 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971016 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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