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1 Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo13Re: Vega Rochester:
2 CIrvin1258@aol.com 14Re: 67 88 For Sale
3 Interserv Operations [po27Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest [delivery failure to jreinan@m6.sprynet.com]
4 "Paul Gussack" [pcg@tenn18re:Quitin-engines
5 "Cooper, Paul" [P.Cooper21RE: Landy For Sale
6 "Prof Johan van Staden" 20 Bonnet lock
7 chrisbrowne@minet.com (C19BSROA has moved
8 "Davies, Scott" [sdavies31RE: Bonnet lock
9 Duncan Phillips [dunk@iv29SIII Timing Query
10 Duncan Phillips [dunk@iv29RE: Bonnet lock
11 jimallen@onlinecol.com (18Re: SIII Timing Query
12 "Ryan O. Emge" [remge@to19unsubscribe
13 "Ryan O. Emge" [remge@to19unsubscribe
14 "Ryan O. Emge" [remge@to19unsubscribe
15 "K. John Wood" [jwrover@41Re: Position Dependant Gearbox Leak
16 William Wallace [billy@p14Number for Paddocks again please
17 "Mark Talbot" [rangerove3867 SIIA For Sale (more info)
18 William Dan Terry [wterr25help! pooping out
19 davery@on-ramp.ior.com (20Possible stateside locale for Weber parts
20 Jeffrey A Berg [jeff@pur21Bonnet Locks
21 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml13It's All In A Name
22 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml21RE: Sighting
23 JSmallals@aol.com 13Re: Repair follies - lug nuts
24 "Spencer K. C. Norcross"25Re: unsubscribe
25 kelliott@intranet.ca (Ke27Re: Repair follies - lug nuts
26 RoverNut@aol.com 17Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
27 Faye and Peter Ogilvie [8Re: Repair follies - lug nuts
28 john cranfield [john.cra15Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
29 Solihull@aol.com 48Re: help! pooping out
30 john cranfield [john.cra25Re: help! pooping out
31 Wayne Haight [whaight@ha21Waxoylin' da bulkhead
32 rover@pinn.net (Alexande19RTV silicone
33 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml14Ignition Coil
34 "Christopher H. Dow" [do14Re: Waxoylin' da bulkhead
35 "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micael_B25re: brakefluid reservoir/parabolic springs
36 Wayne Haight [whaight@ha23Re: Waxoylin' da bulkhead
37 Allan Smith [smitha@cand68Re: Waxoylin' da bulkhead
38 Allan Smith [smitha@cand26Re: It's All In an hour
39 QROVER80@aol.com 9Re: re:Quitin-engines
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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 06:48:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Vega Rochester:

The beast has the same mounting size as the old Rochester, which means you
need to open out the bolt holes a bit but it should go right on.

I will admit to having modified (slotted) the bolt holes and bolted it onto
the Zenith adapter on my manifold -  I liked the positioning better.

                    ajr

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:02:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 67 88 For Sale

Mark,

Since there aren't really ANY $600.00 Land Rovers in California...

If you're nearby the location of it, and have the time, take a looksee for
me.

Charles

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 05:02:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul Gussack" <pcg@tennis.org>
Subject: re:Quitin-engines

Quintin,
Did I understand correctly that these are diesel engines?  Any chance on SIII
transmissions, not wanting to complicate your life.  I'm curious and would go
for a transmission.   

On another note for any LRO's who are Jackie Chan fans allot of his old and
somewhat less creative movies are now available on cassette.  The last several
I saw "Double Dragon", "Heart of Dragon" and one who's name escapes me
"something Dragon or other" all feature police SIII's in cameo appearances.

Paul "I wonder if RN will accept this as a sighting" G
SIII SWB "Grendal"
"only one ajr"

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From: "Cooper, Paul" <P.Cooper@shu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Landy For Sale
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:25:50 +0100

UK POUNDS

Paul Cooper
68 IIA (in Bits)
Admin Computing
Ext.4560

-----Original Message-----
From:	CBeireis@aol.com [SMTP:CBeireis@aol.com]
Sent:	Tuesday, October 14, 1997 2:32 AM
To:	lro@playground.sun.com
Subject:	Re: Landy For Sale

Is that in dollars or pounds?

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From: "Prof Johan van Staden" <JCVS@gold.up.ac.za>
Date:          Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:35:11 GMT+2
Subject:       Bonnet lock

I need a mechanism to lock the bonnet of my SII 109. Compared to 
diffs and gear boxes this is a small problem, but in the thief's 
paradise where my landy operates I need to keep unwanted hands out. 
Any ideas on modifying the latch, or pointers to places where I could 
buy a locking replacement latch will be highly appreciated.

Regards

Johan van Staden
Gold Fields Computer Centre for Education
Faculty of Science, University of Pretoria
Pretoria 0002
South Africa
Tel: x-12-420 2470  Fax: x-12-420-3874

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:12:11 -0400
From: chrisbrowne@minet.com (Chris Browne)
Subject: BSROA has moved

     Everyone:
     
     Jim Pappas has handed over the administrative keys to the Club to 
     me for (hopefully) safe keeping. So we now have a new address and 
     phone number effective immediately.
     
     The new address is Po Box 1018, Sherborn, MA 01770 Tel: (508) 655 
     3825.
     www.bsroa.com
     
     Please pass this on!
     
     Thanks
     Chris Browne 

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From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com>
Subject: RE: Bonnet lock
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 13:23:00 PDT

My '85 110 has a bonnet lock, if you could find that part I'm sure it could 
be made to fit. Failing that how about a hasp and padlock? Not pretty but it 
would work.

Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT
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From: Prof Johan van Staden
Subject: Bonnet lock
Date: 14 October 1997 14:35

I need a mechanism to lock the bonnet of my SII 109. Compared to
diffs and gear boxes this is a small problem, but in the thief's
paradise where my landy operates I need to keep unwanted hands out.
Any ideas on modifying the latch, or pointers to places where I could
buy a locking replacement latch will be highly appreciated.

Regards

Johan van Staden
Gold Fields Computer Centre for Education
Faculty of Science, University of Pretoria
Pretoria 0002
South Africa
Tel: x-12-420 2470  Fax: x-12-420-3874

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:44:37 +0100
From: Duncan Phillips <dunk@ivanhoe.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: SIII Timing Query

Hi all.....

I have a question regarding the timing of my 2.25 petrol SIII.....

My engine is a 7:1 compression unit, and , according to the users handbook
I should set the timing to 3 degrees BTDC when using 83 octane fuel or TDC
when using 75 octane fuel. 

Now, I'm using 4-star fuel (UK) which I understand is 90-something octane.
Sooooo, should I set the timing to about 6 degrees BTDC (extrapolating
forwards from the given data) or what???

I've had a hell of a time sorting out my timing since my local so-called LR
specialists gave me new spark plugs for an 8:1 engine, saying it made no
difference (that'll teach me to trust the voice of 'experience' - shan't
be going there again!!) PS I've now got the right plugs in!!

Thanks in advance!!! (I'm off to buy a strobe-gun)

*******************************
Duncan Phillips
1980 SWB SIII 'Evie'
http://Gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~cmtdmp/play/lrover/
*******************************

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:52:44 +0100
From: Duncan Phillips <dunk@ivanhoe.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Bonnet lock

>I need a mechanism to lock the bonnet of my SII 109. Compared to
>diffs and gear boxes this is a small problem, but in the thief's
>paradise where my landy operates I need to keep unwanted hands out.
>Any ideas on modifying the latch, or pointers to places where I could
>buy a locking replacement latch will be highly appreciated.

It's on my long 'to-do' list too. 

Last time I looked into it I considered using one of those spring loaded
push locks, fitted to the front grille panel which would engage into a hole
drilled in the bonnets cross-member (I have a standard bonnet rather than a
deluxe, not sure if the deluxe is the same).

Alternatively, you could use one of the bog-standard cabinet locks (the
small chrome ones) - it could be fitted to the top of the front of the
bonnet with the locking arm engaging under the grille-panel's top lip.

I'd be interested in how you get on (I think the hasp/padlock alternative
is just too ugly - never on my baby!!)
*******************************
Duncan Phillips
1980 SWB SIII 'Evie'
http://Gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~cmtdmp/play/lrover/
*******************************

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:06:49 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: SIII Timing Query

Duncan,

        I found that 6-8 degrees before top dead center was good for my 8:1
engine on 88 octane. I did a plug chop (to test for detonation) and found
that inaudible detonation started (on my engine - each one is slightly
different due to variable such as prior head work, distributor type, carbon
buildup, fuel used, etc.) began at about 8 BTDC and it became audible at
about 10 BTDC. Your 7:1 engine might be more forgiving because of the low
compression readings. I'd try 6 BTDC with confidence. You will have to
reset your idle speed and mixture, of course. No dubt, you have ensured
that your mechanical advance and vacuum advance is working at 100%!

        Jim Allen

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:20:43 -0700
From: "Ryan O. Emge" <remge@top.monad.net>
Subject: unsubscribe

	

   There is just too much mail being sent over through my bandwidth, plus I
would like my Land Rover mail to deal with '88 Range Rovers and up. I'd
like to see this down the road, so for now..bye all....

  , Ryan OIliver Emge

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:23:18 -0700
From: "Ryan O. Emge" <remge@top.monad.net>
Subject: unsubscribe

  unsubscribe		

   There is just too much mail being sent through my connection. I would
also like to see all mail dealing with '88 Range Rovers and on up. Until
that day, I will not be subscribing to this mail server.  Bye all....

   , Ryan Oliver Emge

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:28:02 -0700
From: "Ryan O. Emge" <remge@top.monad.net>
Subject: unsubscribe

>  unsubscribe		
>   There is just too much mail being sent through my connection. I would

also like to see all mail dealing with '88 Range Rovers and on up. Until
that day, I will not be subscribing to this mail server.  Bye all....
>   , Ryan Oliver Emge
>   There is just too much mail being sent through my connection. I would

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From: "K. John Wood" <jwrover@colo-net.com>
Subject: Re: Position Dependant Gearbox Leak
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:59:03 -0600

Dear PAul,
How Are You! Hope to see you tonight at "My Brother's Bar". It should be a
good meeting. We have lots to discuss regarding the 1998 National Rally

Yours'
K. John WOod
Event Co- Solihull Society

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> From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
> To: lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: Position Dependant Gearbox Leak
> Date: Monday, October 13, 1997 1:03 PM

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> Nate:
> Your transmission clearly needs all it's gaskets replaced.  It's not
normal
> for British transmissions NOT to leak oil.  Especially when level.  The
fact
> that it can be made to leak merely by parking on a hill beggars the
issue.
> This might be a warranty issue.  It is difficult to imagine the export
> inspectors allowing anything mechanical, which does not leak oil, off of
the
> rainy isle.  You are quite right to be concerned.
> If all else fails, you may need to dismantle the offending gearbox and
> replace all the gaskets with proper, original equipment, paper, joint
> washers; adequately smeared with grease.  This should ensure an adequate
> leak indicating that all is well.
> Regards,
> Paul Donohue
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> Paul Donohue
> 1965 LR Dormobile

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From: William Wallace <billy@plnsy.com>
Subject: Number for Paddocks again please
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:30:07 +0100 (BST)

Doh,

I just deleted your message before trying to phone.  Could you send me
the number for Paddocks again.

Yours dopily

Billy

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From: "Mark Talbot" <rangerover@top.monad.net>
Subject: 67 SIIA For Sale (more info) 
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:29:19 -0400

Ok,

For those that wanted to know :

Its actually a 66. 88 " Body is okay, has had a few coats of paint slapped
on it. Rear tub is dented on the sill panels, but repairable. The rest of
the body is in good condition. Rear door okay. Looks like its had panels
replaced off several vehicles.

Frame looks okay, didnt get in and poke around but it probably has the same
rust spots for a vehicle this old. Rear cross member has been replaced with
home made job.

It runs, but the clutch slave is leaking, brakes were replaced new about 4
years ago, dont know if they work.

Roof is normal type, not tropical. It has a series 4 kodiak heater.

You could probably get the price down,  The guy has had it 10 years.

Ok..... Call David SKROCKI 603-352-7700

1988 RANGE ROVER - (currently dead !)
Southdown Underbody Armour,
Warn M8000 Winch, Ironman Suspension Bushings, 1" Inch lift (soon to be OME
3" lift) Hellas, K&N Filter

1991 RANGE ROVER -
 "The Wife's"

1992 RANGE ROVER -
"Plushmobile"

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:48:57 -0600
From: William Dan Terry <wterry@netpubsintl.com>
Subject: help! pooping out

Every so often my engine just dies. After 10-15 minutes I usually can
get it going again. This always happens after I've had a pushed, short
drive from inactivity, and then parked it for 10 minutes. It starts
right up, but just dies a couple of minuntes later. I don't smell gas.
I've got a 2.25l old engine with with a Zenith carb jetted for 5000-7000
ft altitude. All thoughts would be greatly appreciated, even if they
seem obvious. While auto knowledgable, I'm hardly an ace mechanic and
have lots to learn.

Please, respond directly to me too as the digest has gotten quite large
and I puruse it and might miss it.

TIA, William

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:28:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: davery@on-ramp.ior.com (Dale W. Avery)
Subject: Possible stateside locale for Weber parts

No one seems to have any old one barrel Webers sitting around, but one
fellow did give me some pretty good information.  He directed me to the
Pierce Manifold Co. in California.  They import Webers and have a selection
of spare parts.

I've called them, and will be sending a fax with a picture of the part that
I need. I will let all know what transpires...

If anyone else needs their phone/FAX numbers, please contact me directly.
davery@ior.com

-----
   Dale W. Avery KC7MM
   Tigger - '73 88" canvas top
     

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:31:09 -0400
From: Jeffrey A Berg <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Subject: Bonnet Locks

There is a genuine parts hasp available for using a padlock. I have one on
my bonnet (seldom used) and one on the rear toolbox (used a lot.)
Functional, simple and allows a choice of lock styles--key, combo, etc.
Sorry, I can't seem to find the part number. Can someone else help out?

RoverOn!

jab

==
 Jeffrey A. Berg     Purple Shark Media        Rowayton, CT
                    jeff@purpleshark.com
                     ==================
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	Computer recommends hard-drinking calypso poet.
	--Jimmy Buffett, If It All Falls Down (by Matt Betton)

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: It's All In A Name
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:09:19 -0700

I've seen a lot of good Rover names on this list but Neil Sheridan's
'Sheridan Valdez' is the best yet!

91 Messages over one long weekend!  Makes my first hour at work (c/w two
cups of coffee) lots of fun.

Paul.

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: Sighting
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:14:54 -0700

I was watching 'Romancing the Stone' last week, for the first time in
ten years.

In one scene, the bus that Kathleen Turner is riding through the
mountains of Colombia runs into a series Land Rover (missing its entire
drive train if you look closely)

Enter stage left: Mike Douglas (the owner of the Landy) and what does he
say?

"What the h*ll happened to my JEEP!"

Ugh.

Paul.

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From: JSmallals@aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:17:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Repair follies - lug nuts

Peter,
I did this also and ended up replacing about nine studs...the only thing I
could find were press in replacements that are shorter than the original
double threaded shaft.  So now, my lug nuts don't go on all the way!!!  
Good luck,
J.S.
66IIA SWB SW

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:40:01 -0500
From: "Spencer K. C. Norcross" <spencern@acr.org>
Subject: Re: unsubscribe

Some loser wrote...
> I would also like to see all mail dealing with '88 Range Rovers and on up. 

I would like to see a bloody great pyre with range rover owners like you
on it 

> Until that day, I will not be subscribing to this mail server.  Bye all....

Good riddance!

rgds,
spenny
Arlington, VA

1969 SWB, The Wayback Machine
1965 Ex-MOD LWB, Gromit <- Just add bolts  :-0
Land Rover - 4WD of choice for the Information Superhighway

Q. Why do they call it a kilt?
A. Because a lot of people got kilt when they called it a skirt.

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:23:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott)
Subject: Re: Repair follies - lug nuts

Yeah, I wound up replacing some of my lugs also with the shorter ones... I
like the idea that there is no chance of them pulling through the hub (like
one hub I had) but I also don't like the fact that the nuts don't go on all
the way. RN told me that these are Series III studs and that they are
perfectly safe. I have had mine on for about 6 months now and so far no
trouble with them...

TTYL
Keith
1961 Series II 88"
Ottawa

>Peter,
>I did this also and ended up replacing about nine studs...the only thing I
>could find were press in replacements that are shorter than the original
>double threaded shaft.  So now, my lug nuts don't go on all the way!!!  
>Good luck,
>J.S.
>66IIA SWB SW
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>J.S.
>66IIA SWB SW

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:56:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

In a message dated 97-10-12 06:56:56 EDT, you write:

<< On the way home, Baby achieved 19 MPG. I am not making this up. 19 MPG in
a IIA.
 
 Wow. 19 MPG.
 
 N i n e t e e n     m i l e s      per      g a l l o n  !   !    !
  >>

HOW MANY?

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:51:21 -1000
From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org>
Subject: Re: Repair follies - lug nuts

I had 4 studs twist out of the brake drum. Replaced them with the shorter
press in type. They may not look so hot but they have worked fine for over
10 years and at least 40,000 miles. Don't worry about them.

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:11:05 -0300
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

RoverNut@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 97-10-12 06:56:56 EDT, you write:
> << On the way home, Baby achieved 19 MPG. I am not making this up. 19 MPG in
> a IIA.
>  Wow. 19 MPG.

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>  N i n e t e e n     m i l e s      per      g a l l o n  !   !    !
> HOW MANY?
Bet that was those big old Imperial gallons not those little US ones!!!

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:10:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re:  help! pooping out

First, check everything relating to ignition. Why? because 90% of roadside
no-gos are related to that. Just a cursory exam will do. Either ya got spark
or ya don't. Timing and dwell won't be causing the problem you're describing.
If there's no spark at the time the breakdown occurs, make sure you've got
twelve volts going to the positive side of the coil. If there is, the coil,
points or condenser are suspect. If not, the switch is suspect. Make a jumper
wire to go there and drive home, report back to the list and we'll take it
from there.  
  Points or condenser won't give the intermittent problem you describe,
either. They'd just quit and leave you stranded (here's where I should
promote the Pertronix Ignitors I carry, but that would be too commercial) so
carry extras. An old, tired overheating coil can do what you describe. Try
another one, but *not* one made for a merkin car. The condenser can't handle
it and it'll melt points in a heartbeat. (voice of experience here; I *was*
able to get home that day, but only after changing the points and
piggybacking and extra condenser into the circuit.) The big Blue coils from
Bosch seem to work well, in case a Lucas one isn't handy.
  That should be enough ignition stuff to get you started. On to the fuel
system. Low fuel pressure or excessive underhood heat or a combination of the
two can cause vapor lock. Check your sediment bowl, to be sure it's cleaned
out and sealed tight against the fuel pump body. It's on the suction side, so
if given the chance, it *will* suck air, rather than fuel. Check any other
fuel filters to make sure they're clear. This is something else you should be
carrying under the seat. BTW, if you do check the sediment bowl, do so over
soft earth, even grass, so when you drop the glass, it won't break. If it
breaks, you're stranded unless you've got an extra fuel pump under the seat,
like I do; a universal electric.
  If it's vapor lock, You'll be a while sorting it out. But that's better
than paying some one else to do the same thing. Gotta love our oxcart
technology!!
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say:
Land Rovers for Agriculture!
Land Rovers for Industry!
Land Rovers for Recreation!
Land Rovers forever!! D.V.

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:33:54 -0300
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: help! pooping out

Solihull@aol.com wrote:
> First, check everything relating to ignition. Why? because 90% of roadside
> no-gos are related to that. Just a cursory exam will do. Either ya got spark
> or ya don't. Timing and dwell won't be causing the problem you're describing.
> If there's no spark at the time the breakdown occurs, make sure you've got
> twelve volts going to the positive side of the coil. If there is, the coil,
> points or condenser are suspect. If not, the switch is suspect. Make a jumper
> wire to go there and drive home, report back to the list and we'll take it
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> Land Rovers for Recreation!
> Land Rovers forever!! D.V.
Those who Run single barrel weber carbs know about vapour lock but a
cheap remedy is available. Aquire an after market inline fuel filter
with 3 hose fittings. Connect the larger outlet to the regular feul line
about 3 inches from the carb then run a line from the smaller one back
to the tank(you can use the same tank inlet that the diesel spill line
uses or you can tee into the small inlet breather pipe).
 This allows the return of unneeded fuel to the tank and keeps the fuel
inthe lines cool it also stops vapours from pressurizing the line when
the vehicles sits hot.   Hope this helps   John....

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Date: 	Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:10:18 -1000
From: Wayne Haight <whaight@hawaii.edu>
Subject: Waxoylin' da bulkhead

Aloha all,

I'm moving from the mountains to the ocean so I guess it's time to do a
real thorough job of Waxoyling my bulkhead. Can someone give me the
details on how to do a REAL thorough job, i.e what holes to squirt in,
do I take out the instrument panel and door hinges, etc...?

Also, How can you tell if an engine is 7:1 or 8:1 compression ratio?

Mahalo nui loa,
-- 
Wayne R. Haight (1970 SWB IIA - Fairey OD, Weber Carb, Koenig PTO Winch)
Senior Fisheries Research Specialist
Joint Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research
2570 Dole Street
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:00:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: RTV silicone

WRT the thread on silicone sealants, *do not* use them anywhere near petrol. 
I once -foolishly- sealed up a carb gasket with it, then spent the next 
couple of months pulling jellied RTV out of various jets and passages.  When 
fuel is involved, good ol' Permatex #2 (non-hardening) is best.  Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: Ignition Coil
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:05:14 -0700

During a recent ignition problem battle with a friends Rover, I came
into the possession of an ignition coil with an internal ballast
resistor.  I have been told that this type of coil was used on later
model series rovers.  I have a 1961 Series II 88.  Can I use this coil
on my Rover?  

Paul Quin
Victoria, BC Canada

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:15:03 -0700
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Re: Waxoylin' da bulkhead

Wayne Haight wrote:
> Also, How can you tell if an engine is 7:1 or 8:1 compression ratio?

8:1 has a raised square on the carb side of the head (lined up with the
centerline of the carb, if I remember correctly).  This square bit has a
large 8 stamped in it.  I think it's circular on a 7:1, and it may not
be stamped.  

C

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From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micael_B=F6ss?=" <boss@centrum.is>
Subject: re: brakefluid reservoir/parabolic springs
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:09:31 +0100

Hi all!
Thanks for your tips on the brakefluid reservoir.  Although not very
uplifting news, it saved me a lot of trouble and disappointment.  But if I
buy a new reservoir, presuming I find one, will I be able to get the old
leaky one out of the car?  Will the little spout get stuck in there after
braking off of the reservoir and force me to change the entire cylinder, or
is it possible to get the little bugger out? That would be very nice to
know beforehand.  

As to the mystery with the parabolic springs, I found an ad for them in LRW
July -97.  T.I Console   The Netherlands,  phone +31 (0)715-1700-67,
UK Distributor:  Chris Perfect Components,  phone 01570-423206.
Hope this can shed some light on the issue.  Let me know what you find out,
since it looks like I will need new springs in the (all too) near future. 

Thanks,
                    Micael Böss 
                    SIII SWB Diesel 1977
                    Iceland  

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Date: 	Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:46:56 -1000
From: Wayne Haight <whaight@hawaii.edu>
Subject: Re: Waxoylin' da bulkhead

Christopher H. Dow wrote:

> 8:1 has a raised square on the carb side of the head (lined up with the
> centerline of the carb, if I remember correctly).  This square bit has a
> large 8 stamped in it.  I think it's circular on a 7:1, and it may not
> be stamped.
> C

Thanks, I just checked - I have an 8:1. The engine serial number is
23296A. I am trying to figure out if this is the original engine or not.
Were 8:1 "A" engines used in 1970 IIA's?

-- 
Wayne R. Haight
Senior Fisheries Research Specialist
Joint Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research
2570 Dole Street
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822

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From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: Waxoylin' da bulkhead
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:43:23 -0300

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Wayne Haight <whaight@hawaii.edu> wrote:

>I'm moving from the mountains to the ocean so I guess it's time to do a
>real thorough job of Waxoyling my bulkhead. Can someone give me the
>details on how to do a REAL thorough job, i.e what holes to squirt in,
>do I take out the instrument panel and door hinges, etc...?

I needed to give this more than a bit of thought as well, being 50 feet from the 
Atlantic with the onshore tradewinds, and maybe there are some others in similar 
situations. One area you must treat is the door pillars. Assumimg you use the 
Hammerite pump system that screws into their cans, they make a flexible extension for 
the hand unit that you can insert into just about anywhere that has access. I didn't 
know about it when I ordered their kit so I modified the hand unit to take a garden 
sprayer nozzle on an extension tube. One advantage was being able to change the spray 
pattern of the nozzle. Using a narrow jet you can access the door pillars through the 
hole at the bottom and send the stuff the full height of the pillar. The same with the 
channel below the windscreen, at least in the 90. Wherever Al and Fe meet, I used a 
pipette to drop diluted Waxoyl so that it could creep between the surfaces, 
particularly the door frame and skin. It has been effective.

Forward-facing surfaces will rust first, (e.g. the spare-mount posts on my bonnet are 
rusted at the front and fine at the rear)  so make sure that all of the screws for 
headlight mounting and adjustment are well treated. If not, they will be useless when 
you need them. I have had best results with white lithium grease for this particular 
application - one application to my last vehicle and immaculate screws when I needed 
to change a bulb 5 years later. I needed bodywork for rust after 2 years.    

Waxoyl costs me a fortune because of shipping as a hazardous material, so my 
conservation strategy may not be relevant to others who can get it at realistic 
prices:

1. For accessible surfaces, use a brush, it is far more efficient in terms of volume 
used to area covered. 

2. When spraying the door pillars or chassis I collected the runoff in basins under 
the drain holes. That way I didn't worry about how much I put in. The collected stuff 
may have particles that would clog a sprayer so of course that is what you use for 
brushing; 

3. I have yet to see any advantage to heating, as it doesn't even work here at an 
ambient temp of 29-30 Celsius.

As soon as any fluid under pressure is released to a lower pressure the temperature 
drops. The Waxoyl mist experiences the same drop as it exits the nozzle and in any 
event it will certainly and immediately match the temp of the cold surface it is 
applied to. If you want Waxoyl to creep, then dilute it. Regardless of how you heat 
it, it arrives at the surface as glop.

Of course, as we all know, you S II owners (lucky blighters) are better prepared for 
adverse conditions than my S IV, but don't skimp on rust prevention.
Regards,
Allan.
 

 
Allan Smith
Research Scientist
Caribbean Natural Resources Institute
Vieux Fort
St. Lucia, West Indies.
Tel +(758) 454 6060
Fax +(758) 454 5188

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From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: It's All In an hour
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:24:53 -0300

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com> wrote:

>91 Messages over one long weekend!  Makes my first hour at work (c/w two
>cups of coffee) lots of fun.

It is unfair to gloat, :-) 

Some of us didn't have a long weekend. Some of us have to account for each hour of 
time and LR mail isn't a job category. 
You are lucky that your organization doesn't really care what you are doing on their 
time.
Allan.

Allan Smith
Research Scientist
Caribbean Natural Resources Institute
Vieux Fort
St. Lucia, West Indies.
Tel +(758) 454 6060
Fax +(758) 454 5188

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:29:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re:  re:Quitin-engines

Alas no the engines are Petrol ones.
I can get mil rebuilt SIII transmisions. Not sure on the price yet tho. :-?
Rgds Quintin

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:35:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: New RR model (toy)

Picked up a new (to me, anyway) model of a RR.  It's another MicroMachine, a
gold RR.  It's in the 10th anniversary (of Micromachines) packaging and the
top is Grey (if you're looking through the racks.)  It's in a set called
(IIRC) best of '83 -- though why '83, I have no clue.

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:53:22 -0700
Subject: Parabolic springs
From: bigalsk8r@juno.com (allan johnson)

Hi Everyone , I was informed by Bill Davis at Great Basin Rovers that I
had posted the wrong phone number a few weeks back , The correct phone
number is (801)486-5049 , He got me a set of parabolic springs for my
88'' series 3 , as I posted earlier , I am very pleased with these
springs , they have a much softer ride and significantly improved the
articulation . Bill also stocks various types of locking/heavy duty type
diffs as well as the usual (and unusual) rover parts. I'm just a
satisfied customer so, disclaimers and all that stuff .  Cheers ,  Allan
J.

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 01:29:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Sorry =??@@!

At 04:04 PM 10/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Sorry about the really wierd symbols and spacing <RETURN>
>3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3D!
>It's not my fault. It's Compuserve! *&@4%www%
 
Well whaddya expect?  They were just bought by AOL!

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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