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From: Matthew Wild <wild@wdcc1.bnsc.rl.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:31:15 +0100
Subject: Car Seats

I put Range Rover front seats in my 110. They nicely slide back a long way to give 
me enough leg room (6'5"), though not the passenger behind. I bolted them to 
hinged bars which are locked down at the front of the seatbox allowing them to 
be swung away when I need to get at the underseat storage.

I've generally heard about people putting volvo 300 series seats in LRs.

Matthew

-- 
Matthew Wild
M.Wild@rl.ac.uk                    URL http://www.wdc.rl.ac.uk/

110 CSW V8 EFi, Green & Creme

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:47:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Car Seats

Re: Rangie seats in a 110:

Does a 110 havethe same general seatbox setup as a 109? This sounds like a
doable project for my old,tired lumbar region....<grin>

25,000 mileas a year in a 109 with military springs is no picnic.....8*)

                    ajr

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Subject: Re: Car Seats
From: Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun <ketilk@a.sol.no>
Date: 08 Oct 1997 14:07:40 +0200

Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com writes:

> Does a 110 havethe same general seatbox setup as a 109? This sounds like a
> doable project for my old,tired lumbar region....<grin>

Yes, it does. My 109" has seats from a 110" - I had to drill a few holes,
as far as I can remember, otherwise it's a no-brainer.

-- 
---Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun, 1979 109" 21/4Petrol Sw - "Lillebil"

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 08:29:09 -0700
From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: zinc rich primer

I have seen many places with zinc rich primer, Kmart has some for $7 a
can and says it is for marine use, I have also seen it made by Krylon
and bought it for $2 a can on closeout. I'm currently testing the two,
the Kmart stuff was thich and came out in spatters with almost chunks in
it, i'm not sure if thats the way it was supposed to be or if it was too
old, the Krylon was just like regular primer but ran more. Both seem to
be much better than regular primer. Especially handy for footwell
repairs etc.

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:40:26 +0400
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Jos=E9_Luis_Trisotti_C.=22?="  <jtrisott@reuna.cl>
Subject: Tears on my eyes

Hi LR Fans :

During the last two years Im reading this list , many time we are turning
around diferent funnies topics ( Ex jeep v/s Defender )
Today I want to change your minds into The Land Rover Spirit .
As you know I am in a restoring project of a Serie I 80" 1953 , last month I
read the LROI Mag . about Dunsfold store . As you can hope , I was dreaming
because it was an  fantastic oportunity specialy for my ,that I live in
Chile Southamerica , where its impossible to find any thing about it . May
be possible than exist one or two other serie I live .

Last week I received my package , it was great , I feel on Christmas . Think
that I buyed diferents original part as speedometer , oil filter complete etc ) 

All the parts was on original package , old box keep the days , month and
years . Many of these parts was packing when I born ( 10/16 1954 ) .

Today we live on a disposible things society but we you feel it , you can
think that may be possible that the old Land Rover was noisly , leakly ,
slowly but they have Spirit .

The Land Rover Spirit

Bye Bye

From

Chile Southamerica

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 97 07:59:46 EST
Subject: Re: Brakefluid reservoir

>The thing is the PO blew a hole in the brake-fluid reservoir when trying to
>clean the braking system. No big deal, he gave me an old master cylinder
>with a reservoir attached to it, so I set about taking the reservoir off. 

The reservoir on this type of Master Cylinder has a fitting with a barbed 
end, and is not likely to be removed witout being destroyed. I have seen 
one pulled out, but it was so mangled that i would not have tried to reuse 
it. Your best bet is to buy a new reservoir.
I suppose you could also try to rebuild the M/C with the reservoir on it.
later
DaveB

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 08:58:25 -0700
From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: splines

Are civilian s2a88 LRs 10 or 24 spline diffs?

thanks

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From: "Andy Woodward" <azw@aber.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:46:56 +0000
Subject: Re: Gaiters

\>   I recently purchased a set of rubber gaiters from P.A. Blanchard
\>   in UK.
\>Installation requires the removal of the chrome housings from the
\>axle case. They are a Tight Fit, as they have to be stretched over
\>the small end of the swivel ball. This can be compared to putting a

\>when at full lock. No doubt that when this vehicle hits the road, I
\>will keep a good eye on their condition, as any holes will cause them
\>to fill with muck. It was necessary to seal the small end of the

\>possible if you don't. 3. Rubber gaiter - extra protection, a b*tch
\>to install unless you are there already, inspection possible by
\>removal of 6 bolts and pulling back gaiter (this may cause seal and
\>oil to escape the housing), much easier to detect holes in rubber
\>than in leather, a big surprise possible if you don't.

Hmmmm. Being deeply suspicious of totally enclosng anything......

What would be the results of simply splitting teh gaiters, which 
would not reqire pulling teh swivels to fit them and then lacing it up along the 
bottom with wire? This would also let out salty water etc, so no 
surprises.

 

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:09:23 -0400
Subject: Re: splines

Early IIa 88s are 10-spline - the later ones can be either, and the last
24-spline.

Depends on what they had on the floor that week....I know my 64 109 is
10-spline, my 67 88 is 10-spline, and from there it gets fuzzy depending on
where you live, export and the like.

                         ajr

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:26:25 -0700
From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: Re: splines

Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com wrote:
> Early IIa 88s are 10-spline - the later ones can be either, and the last
> 24-spline.
> Depends on what they had on the floor that week....I know my 64 109 is
> 10-spline, my 67 88 is 10-spline, and from there it gets fuzzy depending on
> where you live, export and the like.

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> where you live, export and the like.
>                          ajr
Great, now my life is more complicated, my project vehicle is a 65 and
my parts vehicle is a 70 or 71 2a. Arrrrrggghhh!

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:31:42 -0700
From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: Importation

I know that this subject has probably been beaten to death but what are
the regulations for importing say 1968 and up cars to the USA from
Europe or Russia? I've wanted to do this for some time but have never
compiled the actual regulations and procedures. If anyone knows they can
reply to me via the list or direct by email. thanks

(The reason i want to know is because a company in russia wants to sell
me a new UAZ and they have no info reguarding importation to the USA,
they were under the impression that you could just ship em here without
any problems, no safety devices, no emission controls etc. Just like a
landrover with Rest of World specs!!!)

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Subject: Re: 	The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 09:50:12 -0400
From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com>

Funny how this happens...My wife MADE me by our IIA the weekend after 
last year's Mid-Atlantic.

On 10/8/97 06:56 owner-lro-digest@playground.sun.com wrote: 

>From: RoverNut@aol.com
>Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:45:55 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: WTB:D110
>~sorry about cross-posting~
>Ladies and Gentleman,

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>89rr
>69IIa

David Russell
http://www.mindspring.com/~david_r
David_R@mindspring.com
1969 SIIA SWB (Pastel Green, 4-speed)
1997 SD (Oxford Blue, 5-speed)
1977 FJ40 (rust, 8-speed (hopefully still))

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From: "Huub Pennings" <HPS@fs1-kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:15:34 +0100
Subject:       Re: Brakefluid reservoir

Remove the old master cylinder by hacksaw, drill, acid etc. just a 
case of being careful not to damage the  brake- fluid reservoir.

Regards,

Huub Pennings

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:39:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: BRLRC Oktoberfest Rally

Hi all: Just wondering how many of the Listers are going to the Blue Ridge
Land Rover Club Oktoberfest rally this weekend in Parkersburg, WVA? This will
be the first time this year for me for any serious off roadin' as I ve been
occupied rebuilding the engine all late spring and summer. Hope to see some
of you there. Cheers. Andy Blackley (Russet brown 83 RR w/ limestone steel
wheels)

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:01:35 -0400
From: reynoldsg@tfn.com (Geoffrey Reynolds)
Subject: Second Monthly Boston Area Get Together

Where: John Harvard's Brew House in Framingham

When: Wednesday, October 8th

Time: 7:30PM

Directions (courtesy of Chris Browne):

>From 128 north or south:

Take the Mass pike west to exit 13 (about 6 miles) labeled "Natick 
Framingham Rt 30".  Toll is 30 cents (70 cents if coming from Boston 
on the Pike).

After toll booth go right on rt 30 towards Framingham.  Through first 
light.  At next light turn left and JHBH is on the right.  REI is on 
the left.

For a new building its hidden behind some trees and not well marked or 
lit.  Parking all around the building both on Rt 30 and Shoppers 
World.

>From Route 9:

Shoppers World backs on to Route 9 East, you just have to drive 
through the mall (Barnes & Noble, Bob Stores, We've just beaten the 
wiz (they closed down) etc to get to JHBH.

Based on our parking experience last month, I would recommend parking 
in the Shoppers World lot instead of the private lot for John 
Harvard's (which is rather small).

Hope to see lots of you there!

Jeff Reynolds
1995 Beluga Black Discovery
Rovers North Roof Rack
4 Hella Rallye 4000's
1 Hella Work Lamp

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From: "Jon Dunster, Computer Systems Manager" <jond@inetgw.chichester.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:42:41 GMT
Subject: Re: 4000+ UK military SIII's up for grabs - the details...

Seeing as I wasn't busy at the time I thought I'd find the company 
and post the details ...

The company is currently expecting over 4000 SIII's between now and 
christmas and has a significant number already.  They will all be 
sold as seen and start from stlg1500 for a non-runner.  They have a wide 
variety of models including lightweight, ambulance, winterised (!), 
SWB, LWB, tilt etc etc etc.

They are starting to sell them this coming Monday (13th Oct) and the
guy to contact is Steve Brown +44-1543-417733.  They will take 
your details and contact you as-soon-as.  Their address is Military 
Vehicle Spares Ltd, Unit 14-15 Fradley Park Ind Est, Fradley, 
Lichfield, Staffordshire WS13 8EN. 

I asked about export and it was suggested that it might be difficult 
to get them into the states because of the age but that taking the 
axles off and shipping them seperately might re-classify them as 
'spares'.  Presumably Europe won't be a problem.

Interestingly they suggest that another 2000-3000 will also be 
released via the auctions during the same kind of period.

Looks like the UK is going to be camo-green ;-)
--------------------------------------------------------
 Jon Dunster
 jond@chichester.ac.uk
 http://www.chichester.ac.uk/~jond
 -------------------------------------------------------

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:01:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Land Rover Engine Swaps

On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Jay Reinan <jreinan@lawyernet.com> asked (after praising
the Rochester carb): "What do you suppose would happen if I crammed the Jag
V12 motor into the Series?"

This is a serious question.  We frequently hear about engine swaps to make
our Land Rovers a bit faster.  There would seem to be several advantages to
Jay's swapping the Jag V12 into his 1964 Series IIa 88.  Let us look at a
few of the pros and cons:

1.  Power would be increased.  This would make it possible to get up to the
    Eisenhower Tunnel without downshifting and perhaps at the speed limit.

2.  It is proper to keep everything British.  A British engine belongs in a
    British Land Rover.  Jay would not suffer withdrawal symptoms from lack
    of oil leaks or visits by HRH the Prince of Darkness.

3.  The incredibly versatile Rochester Model B carburetor could certainly
    be adapted to the 5.4L Jag engine.  This would permit use of the oil
    bath air cleaner as well as the manual choke.

4.  Adapting the rather lengthy V12 to the space available in the Series IIA
    engine bay might require some sheet metal modifications.

5.  Life expectancy of axle half shafts might be reduced.

6.  When the engine swapping is finished, Jay might find his 91 Jag XJS
    convertible seems a bit slow with the 2.25 LandyLump power plant (even
    with the superlative Rochester carburetor).

Let's hope Jay keeps us appraised of his progress on this project.

Recuerdos,
Paul Donohue (guru of engine swaps)
1965 Land Rover Dormobile (with Rochester Model B Carburetor)

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:54:32 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: Re: Tears on my eyes

"José Luis Trisotti C." wrote:
> Hi LR Fans :
> During the last two years Im reading this list , many time we are turning
> around diferent funnies topics ( Ex jeep v/s Defender )
> Today I want to change your minds into The Land Rover Spirit .
> As you know I am in a restoring project of a Serie I 80" 1953 , last month I
> read the LROI Mag . about Dunsfold store . As you can hope , I was dreaming

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 30 lines)]
> From
> Chile Southamerica

I'll drink to that!
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
"into Africa adventures" The African Adventure-travel Webzine
http://www.adventures.co.za
"AfricanAdrenalin" Sign up for adventure here...
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 16:02:57 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: We're back!

Hi all,

We (Wife, Landy and I) are back for a while.

Went on month long trip to Kaokoland (Northern Namibia) through the
Central Kalahari desert (sheared entire rear spring hanger off chassis,
patched with pieces of tree, drove 250 km down some of the most ghastly
mountain "tracks" to get to a welding plant). Will be writing stories
and articles about the trip and the Landy repairs (have detailed
photographic evidence) on my Landy site - will let y'all know when the
stuff's up.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
"into Africa adventures" The African Adventure-travel Webzine
http://www.adventures.co.za
"AfricanAdrenalin" Sign up for adventure here...
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:24:16 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <carradine@unimog.net>
Subject: Re: Importation

At 09:31 AM 10/8/97 -0700, matt wrote:
:I know that this subject has probably been beaten to death but what are
:the regulations for importing say 1968 and up cars to the USA from
:Europe or Russia? I've wanted to do this for some time but have never
:compiled the actual regulations and procedures. If anyone knows they can
:reply to me via the list or direct by email. thanks
:
:(The reason i want to know is because a company in russia wants to sell
:me a new UAZ and they have no info reguarding importation to the USA,
:they were under the impression that you could just ship em here without
:any problems, no safety devices, no emission controls etc. Just like a
:landrover with Rest of World specs!!!)

 You can import any vehicle into the US without DOT or EPA restrictions
 provided it is 25 calendar years old, that is, 1972 and older this
 year, and 1973 and older next year.  'New' UAZ's will be turned back.
 Do you really want a Russian car 25+ years old?

 Also, some states like California require cars to meet SMOG regs in
 place for the year of manufacture, that is, starting in 1966.  We soon
 hope to have a new law (SB42) in place which will have a 25 year expiry
 and eventually a 30 year roll over.

 Kind regards,

 Michael Carradine                                     Ph/Fax 510-988-0900
 Unimog Network Int'l, Box 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597 USA <cs@unimog.net>
 _________________________________________________________________________
 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page now relocated at   www.unimog.net/sales

 

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From: Simon Taylor <Simon@tdc.co.uk>
Subject: Part numbers
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:12:06 +0100

Something I've often wondered about - why don't car manufacturers 
issue their parts lists/microfiche on CD these days ? - I'm sure the 
LR one would be very popular !, and I bet they are originated on 
computer now anyway.

Just seems logical to me.

Simon Taylor

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 97 10:48:10 EST
Subject: Re: Importation

>(The reason i want to know is because a company in russia wants to sell
>me a new UAZ 

I believe UAZ's are sold in the US. I think there's a company called UAZ of 
America, they used to have a website but I can't find it now. Seen one of these 
things on my way to work last year, pretty neat looking.

later
DaveB.

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 97 10:56:03 EST
Subject: Re[2]: splines

>Great, now my life is more complicated, my project vehicle is a 65 and
>my parts vehicle is a 70 or 71 2a. Arrrrrggghhh!

ahem. 
I don't think 24 spline diffs were used until 1980 or so. It's easy enough 
to find out, just undo six bolts and yank the halfshaft. The first change 
was from 10 inner/10 outer, to 24 inner, 10 outer. The second was 24/24, 
which is still in use. 24 spline carriers can be fitted with 4.7 or 3.5 
gears,a nd the drive flanges fit as well I believe. SO it is possible to 
upgrade you old rover axle by adding 24 spline diff carrier, which I think 
wil even fit into your old diff housing, i think.
don't sweat it.
later
DaveB
"72 SIII, 10 splines...

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 14:50:40 -0400
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Importation

dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org wrote:
> >(The reason i want to know is because a company in russia wants to sell
> >me a new UAZ

> I believe UAZ's are sold in the US. I think there's a company called UAZ of
> America, they used to have a website but I can't find it now. Seen one of these
> things on my way to work last year, pretty neat looking.

Here is the URL for UAZ:

http://www.4x44u.com/pub/k2/am4x44u/truck_tech/4x_trucks/uaz2.htm

Pretty neat? Neat? yes.  Pretty? No,  well ok,   pretty ugly.....

Cheers gov

-- 
end
Mike Johnson
johnsonm@borg.com
http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: Thrust Washers Revisited
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:10:51 -0700

If you remember, last week I was asking about loose crank shafts &
thrust washers in my 1961 2&1/4 petrol...

...Well, I dropped the sump over the weekend and found that there was no
evidence of ANY thrust washers to be found.  (non came out with the oil
so they've been gone for a while.)  I took off the main bearing cap and
found that the crank shaft journal and bearings were in wonderful shape
:-)  but the crank shaft had about 8mm of play fore & aft.  The crank
shaft lobe had actually been rubbing on the bearing cap!  

I received my new thrust washers from Wise Owl today (Part # 538134, 010
oversized) and was wondering if anyone has any pointers for installing
them?  We're talking pretty basic pointers here, like where do they go?
I have nothing to go by, even my Hanes manual has no pictures or
diagrams to go by.

The washers are two crescent shapes, one side steel and one side copper
coated.  The copper side has two grooves across it.

Any help would be much appreciated!

Paul Quin
1961 Series II 88
Victoria, BC Canada

Ps If anyone would be able to fax me a diagram, that would be cool!
Fax: (250) 652-7107, attn: Paul Quin

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:18:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Thrust Washers Revisited

Paul,

The thrust washers go on both sides of the center main bearing - the block
half rather than the cap half.

They slip into 2 grooves on the sides of where the tin bearing shel sits -
between the bearing and the corresponding surfaces on the crankshaft.

If this makes no sense, email me and I'll see if I can FAX you the relevant
pages out of the LR engine manual.

Also, take a peek at the Haynes manual - specifically the bit on replacing
main bearings. I believe they get mentioned there.

                    Alan

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From: JSmallals@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:39:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Starting from 2nd gear???

Hello all,
Just curious if everyone else takes off with their IIA in 2nd gear...During
city driving I find first gear useless!!!  1st gets me from about zero to
three miles an hour.  Also, what effects does this have on my
clutch/gearbox/engine...any premature wear?
regards,
James Small
Denver, Colorado
66IIA SWB SW

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 97 15:00:02 EST
Subject: Re: Starting from 2nd gear???

Hello all,
Just curious if everyone else takes off with their IIA in 2nd gear

Not a IIa, but yes I use 2nd gear to start. Used to use first only, then 
realized how useless it was...2nd will wear the clutch faster since you have to 
slip it more, but as long as you get your revs up enough it shouldn't hurt the 
engine.

only time I use 1st downtown is when I'm crawling over small cars during rush 
hour. 
But that's low ratio...

later
DaveB.
...During
city driving I find first gear useless!!!  1st gets me from about zero to
three miles an hour.  Also, what effects does this have on my
clutch/gearbox/engine...any premature wear?
regards,
James Small
Denver, Colorado
66IIA SWB SW

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From: WJMcD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:02:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Roller Painting and Radiator Muffs

David,
You must come by the house sometime soon so that we might try it on you Cinco
de Mayo Disco! 

BTW I tried your suggestion of driving up to the test track at LRNA and
asking someone for a testdrive. Somehow, they don't show the same repect when
you show up in a Series vehicle as they do when you go in a Discovery or RR.

Also, whilst driving on the highway recently, I've noticed great numbers of
God's little creatures strewn about. I contemplating a concession in natural
radiator muffs. Anyone interested? No, I will most definately not... I
repeat, not be making them from cats.

Ready...Go!

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 16:31:42 -0700
From: Matthew Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: Europarts ltd

can anyone advise me on dealing with europarts? They always quote me way
low prices but I wonder??? 

What is the best way of dealing with them, email gets little or no
response.

How are their prices so low???

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 13:44:18 -0700
From: Clayton Kirkwood <kirkwood@kirkwood-desk.fm.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Europarts ltd

Prices are typically about the lowest around. But you pay a *big* price for
that. I had quite a few orders promised for a certain delivery date which
repeatedly failed to show up. Phone calls were promised many times and
returned only about 2 times. Promises, promises, but very short on follow
through. Don't count on parts showing up anytime close to when promised.
Parts where damaged or wrong several times. And don't expect promised phone
calls!!

YMMV,

Clayton

At 04:31 PM 10/8/97 -0700, Matthew Nelson wrote:
>can anyone advise me on dealing with europarts? They always quote me way
>low prices but I wonder??? 
>What is the best way of dealing with them, email gets little or no
>response.

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>response.
>How are their prices so low???

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 18:07:47 -0700
From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: tires

What are the largest size tires I can put on my 15 inch wheels, i have
235-75r15s right now which look and work fine but what aboit 9.5*31*15
would they fit or are they far too large and bulky? And how the heck do
you decipher the different sizes put out by different companies?, some
are english, others meteric and others still are a mix of the two or
different altogether. How can you compare between brands when this is
the case???

By the way thanks for all the replies i've been getting, this list is
new to me and I'm like a kid with a new toy, getting all the questions
that have been gnawing at the back of my mind answered.

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 19:28:37 -0300
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: tires

matt wrote:
> What are the largest size tires I can put on my 15 inch wheels, i have
> 235-75r15s right now which look and work fine but what aboit 9.5*31*15
> would they fit or are they far too large and bulky? And how the heck do
> you decipher the different sizes put out by different companies?, some
> are english, others meteric and others still are a mix of the two or
> different altogether. How can you compare between brands when this is
> the case???
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> new to me and I'm like a kid with a new toy, getting all the questions
> that have been gnawing at the back of my mind answered.
Matt   the size you mentioned is one of the easier to figure out
  31 950 15 = 31in diameter(approx) 9.5 inches wide at the tread on a 15
inch rim. May be alittle taller than the 235s  and some what wider.
Metic sizes take a little math to understand. 245 75 16 =
245mm wide 75is the height as a ratio of the width  16 is the rim size
thus a 245 85 16 would be taller than a 245 75  16 byt has the same
tread width.  hope this shed some light  john...

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:45:58 +1200 (NZST)
From: Graham Furniss <graham@forum8.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: splines

>>Great, now my life is more complicated, my project vehicle is a 65 and
>>my parts vehicle is a 70 or 71 2a. Arrrrrggghhh!
>ahem. 
>I don't think 24 spline diffs were used until 1980 or so. It's easy enough 
>to find out, just undo six bolts and yank the halfshaft. The first change 
>was from 10 inner/10 outer, to 24 inner, 10 outer.
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I have never seen one of these. The only mixed splines I have met are in the
front axle of CS(Coil Sprung) Rovers where the 10 spline goes to the diff
and the 24 into the CV joint.

>The second was 24/24, 
>which is still in use. 24 spline carriers can be fitted with 4.7 or 3.5 
>gears,a nd the drive flanges fit as well I believe. SO it is possible to 
>upgrade you old rover axle by adding 24 spline diff carrier, which I think 
>wil even fit into your old diff housing, i think.
>don't sweat it.
>later
>DaveB
>"72 SIII, 10 splines...

Actually the only 24 spline axles in SIIa vehicles were in the Salisbury
axles under the back end of latter IIa 109 models.  It is easy to spot one
of these axles, they are enormous and have a cast center section with a
cover plate. They were designed for 2 ton trucks and generally won't break
without rediculous provocation (GM 6.2 V8 diesel with WO throttle, low range
on 33in tyres. Burst the crown wheel). In fact I am pretty sure the 24
spline Rover diffs didn't appear until late in the SIII run, and only to
special order. I have seen D110s with 10 spline front diffs so the 24 spline
ones are quite rare.

Even the Range Rovers were running 10 splines until quite late, end of the
'80s I think, when the 4 pin diffs appeared.

If you want 24 spline axles then get the appropriate diff and a set of sIII
Salisbury axles and drive flanges. Note that this only works for the back
axle, the front has universals for steering and are a different length to
the CS version with CVs.

You need the series drive flanges as the CS ones have 5 bolts instead of 6
and the series axle shafts as the CS ones are too long.

Cheers, Graham.
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Senior Software Engineer/Dev & Opps Manager                  Ph  (64)(3)365 3888
Forum 8 (NZ) Ltd.                                            FAX (64)(3)377 9888
Christchurch
New Zealand.
________________________________________________________________________________
"Hummm... Tricky!"

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 20:18:30 -0300
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: splines

Graham Furniss wrote:
> >>Great, now my life is more complicated, my project vehicle is a 65 and
> >>my parts vehicle is a 70 or 71 2a. Arrrrrggghhh!
>          [ truncated by lro-lite (was 6 lines)]
> >to find out, just undo six bolts and yank the halfshaft. The first change
> >was from 10 inner/10 outer, to 24 inner, 10 outer.
>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 49 lines)]
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> "Hummm... Tricky!"
Just to throw an other spanner into the works the series III military
front axle used a 24 spline driver with a 10 spline diff. John..

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 01:24:48 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: Re: splines

john cranfield wrote:
> Graham Furniss wrote:
> > >>Great, now my life is more complicated, my project vehicle is a 65 and
> > >>my parts vehicle is a 70 or 71 2a. Arrrrrggghhh!
>          [ truncated by lro-lite (was 49 lines)]
> > ________________________________________________________________________________
> > "Hummm... Tricky!"

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
> Just to throw an other spanner into the works the series III military
> front axle used a 24 spline driver with a 10 spline diff. John..

Yup, got some of those in my front and rear (Salisbury) diffs.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
"into Africa adventures" The African Adventure-travel Webzine
http://www.adventures.co.za
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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 19:32:38 -0700
From: Matthew Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Subject: Re: splines&axels

I guess that the rule would be that civilian sIIa 88s have 10 splines,
Hopefully whoever I get a diff locker from will know for sure.

while i'm at it would it be worth replacing my rear axel with a
salisbury now, seing how I'm rebuilding the whole landrover anyway? If
so where is the cheapest source of them???

thanks again
matt

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From: "Eyres, Richard RP" <Eyres.Richard.RP@bhp.com.au>
Subject: Re: splines&axels
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:38:00 +1000

>From: Matthew Nelson
>To: lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject: Re: splines&axels
>Date: Thursday, 9 October 1997 12:32
>I guess that the rule would be that civilian sIIa 88s have 10 splines,
>Hopefully whoever I get a diff locker from will know for sure.
>while i'm at it would it be worth replacing my rear axel with a
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 14 lines)]
>thanks again
>matt

Matt,
As was mentioned else where, the only way to be completely sure of the
number of splines is to pull a half shaft. On the rear axle, removal and
replacement involves six bolts and about 5 minuets work. It is not even
necessary to remove the road wheel, although doing so does make access a
little easier. Its best to ensure the half shaft is on the 'high side'
of the vehicle to minimize oil spillage (jack up that corner). A few old
rags will be useful to soak up oil which will come out. Its literally a
case of undoing the six bolts on the drive flange, then pulling out the
flange and drive shaft assembly.(You may need to tap or prise the drive
flange to break the seal between the drive flange and casing) Count the
spines at the diff end, then push shaft back in, some 'jiggling' may be
required to line up and engage splines in the diff, but this it not a
problem. Its probably also worthwhile using a small amount of 'instant
gasket' on the drive flange to ensure no oil leakage.
The salisbury axle is definitely stronger (both the diff and half
shafts) than the Rover axle, but it is also a lot heavier, and reduces
ground clearance slightly (bigger crown wheel and casing) and is
probably less common in terms of getting parts. Also special tools are
needed to change the diff, necessitating removal of the axle. The Rover
diff is simple to change and can easily be done 'in the field' if
required and is probably more easily available (and cheaper!) second
hand. On the other hand you are less likely to break the salisbury in
the first place, so I guess you should pay your money and take your
choice. By the way, I think the spring/shock mounts may also be
different, which may make the swap slightly more involved. As for
sourcing, definitely not New Zealand, rocking horse droppings are easier
to find, you could try some of the spares places in the UK (check out
the advertisers in the LR mags)
Hope this helps,

Richard.

PS, theres also a company in the UK who I'm sure supply 4 pin diffs,
'super strong' half shafts and a cleaver little spacer to stop the crown
wheel and pinion flexing, all fitting the standard Rover axle, which
would be almost unbreakable, not sure of cost, but IMHO, this would be
the 'ultimate' solution. Again my memory is getting a bit hazy, but I
think the company  may have been Automatic Conversions, or something
similar, which, coincidentally may or may not be connected in some way
to a David Ashcroft, who appears on the list from time to time. (David
are you out there?). Check out those mags, as there may be others.

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:51:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: scooper@scooper.seanet.com (John & Sandy Cooper)
Subject: do you remember...LR

Does anyone remember an old Adam 12 or that Firehouse rescue show (both
based in LA) where the two leading characters trade vehicles for a while.
Well, one had a 109 station wagon (early 60's vintage) and I forgot what the
other car was.  Anyway, the person with the other car wound up wanting to
trade back after just one day (I forgot why).  I think the show was in the
late 60's or early 70's.                                   John Cooper 1969 11a

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 21:56:44
From: James Wolf <J.Wolf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: silicone brake fluid

It's your choice, but check the archives first. We went through this about,
what, 18 or so months ago. It seems that not everyone who restores cars
likes the stuff. For one thing it is hygroscopic anyway it absorbs water,
which then floats on top of the fluid and has to be taken off etc. Do your
homework before you take that jump. As far as I know the copper lines are OK.
What a blast this past weekend, this was the BEST Mid-Atlantic so far. We
really had a great time. That includes Harriett the best security the old
blue ambulance has ever had.
 Jim Wolf

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 19:11:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: scooper@scooper.seanet.com (John & Sandy Cooper)
Subject: big tires

Matt,
I put on 33x9.50 all terrain BFG.  I love them and so far no binding (tall
but thin) great on and off the highway.  See at:  www.seanet.com/~scooper
Regards,  John Cooper 1969 11a

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:00:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Answers

Russell Dushin wrote:

>the feely-meely boxes...could you please post the answers?

Series box: inside window slide catch, front timing cover oil seal, shim for 
steering box support, new-type valve stem seal (not a wiper box shaft seal, 
which is *very* similar), bronze bush for - the pilot bushing? no, the 
starter.  (Plus one more that I can't remember)

Coil sprung: thermostat housing, door lock actuator, spare tire retainer, 
cruise control vacuum pot, washer level float/indicator.

Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:00:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Brake fluid reservoir

Michael Boss wrote:

>...so I set about taking the reservoir off.  Only it will not come off.
>According to Haynes i should be able to :lift it off" after loosening the 
>screws holding it to the cylinder....

Shows how much Haynes knows.  I've done this, only trouble, the only way the 
reservoir can be removed is *destructively*.  The two machine screws hold 
down one end, but the other is a spout into the cylinder.  There is a 
circlip that surrounds the spout and locks into a groove when pressed into 
the cylinder.  In other words, it works *once* - going in.  Unless you get 
very lucky, it'll break in removal.  Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: RE: silicone brake fluid
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:59:08 -0300

On Wed, 08 Oct 1997, James Wolf <J.Wolf@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
 For one thing it is hygroscopic anyway it absorbs water,

Well, there is a disappointment - everything I have read on this list and elsewhere 
has stated that the main advantage to silicone fluid is that it is not hygroscopic,  
and thus less conducive to rust of inner hydraulic surfaces.

I'm sure a few of us would be very grateful for the the definitive word on this one.
TIA
Allan.

 

Allan Smith
Research Scientist
Caribbean Natural Resources Institute
Vieux Fort
St. Lucia, West Indies.
Tel +(758) 454 6060
Fax +(758) 454 5188

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: do you remember...LR
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 03:19:28 +0000

At 01:51 AM 10/9/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Does anyone remember an old Adam 12 or that Firehouse rescue show (both
>based in LA) where the two leading characters trade vehicles for a while.
>Well, one had a 109 station wagon (early 60's vintage) and I forgot what the
>other car was.  Anyway, the person with the other car wound up wanting to
>trade back after just one day (I forgot why).  I think the show was in the
>late 60's or early 70's.                                   John Cooper 1969 11a

I remember the firehouse rescue show I think it was called Rescue51.  One
episode the firemen were out back of the fire station cleaning up and one of
the rescue guys ( the young one) pulls in driving a limestone lla.  
>Does anyone remember an old Adam 12 or that Firehouse rescue show (both
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 23:23:55 -0400
From: Brett Storey <brstore@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: do you remember...LR

The show was called Emergency and the two paramedics of Squad 51 were
Roy DeSoto (the Land Rover guy) and Johnny Gage (sports car guy). I
think it was an 88 though. That was a great episode. Gee, can ya tell I
was a fan of the show? Ouch!

Brett

John & Sandy Cooper wrote:
> Does anyone remember an old Adam 12 or that Firehouse rescue show (both
> based in LA) where the two leading characters trade vehicles for a while.
> Well, one had a 109 station wagon (early 60's vintage) and I forgot what the
> other car was.  Anyway, the person with the other car wound up wanting to
> trade back after just one day (I forgot why).  I think the show was in the
> late 60's or early 70's.                                   John Cooper 1969 11a

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 01:37:40 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: Importation

The UAZ was never imported into the US.  A year or 2 ago they were

trying to bring them but too many modifications were needed.  They might

import them to South America though.

About a year ago LRW comparied the UAZ, Jeep, and a Lightweight, I don't

think the UAZ got a good review.  And parts are near impossible to find.

I hate to start talking about this no the LRO list, but you mght be

interested in the ARO.  There is a web site.  It looks very similar to

the UAZ.  The ARO is made in Poland i think (or some other former

comunist country), they are supposed to start importing it soon.  One

way they are getting into the country is by removing the running gear,

and replacing it with Ford gear.  I found their web site by going to

Yahoo, and looking under automobile makes and models.

By the way, I might be going to Moscow in January.  If I go, I'm gonna

try to bring back a Ural sidecar motorcycle.  I'm going to take it apart

and ship it back as parts.

David Glaser

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 01:40:41 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: Roller Painting and Radiator Muffs

I didn't see you at the Mid-Atlantic.  Did you make it down there?  I

came really late.  I showed up at Sunday morning.  I guess better late

then never.  I brought some Cubans.  I offered some cigars to a few

people but no one smoked!!

I'm suprised they didn't take you out on the course.  They always seemed

to be pretty nice.  Now it possible they treat Disco or RR owners better

then series owners, but they ever knew what type of Rover, and if I even

owned one untill after they took me out.  Maybe I was lucky and got them

on a good day?  Did you ask Duncan Crook?  Hes the guy that took me out.

I just walked right into his office and asked him.  I passed by LRNA on

Sunday and noticed they now have an electric controlled lock on the test

track gate instead of the chain.  I wonder if people really broke in!

I couldn't figure out what to call my Rover.  I've been calling it

MayaTruck, but I think Cinco de Maya sounds better.  Thanks for the new

name! My Landy thanks you.

regards,

David

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 01:45:52 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: TV Sighting

On NOVA last night, which was about brain trauma and coma, one of the
doctors drove around in a white Discovery

David G

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 07:24:55 +0100
From: "Said Geoffrey at MITTS" <Geoffrey.Said@MAGNET.MT>
Subject: RE:Starting from 2nd gear???

I thought the first gear was meant to be used.!!!

Geff Sherman

JSmallals@aol.com:
>Hello all,
>Just curious if everyone else takes off with their IIA in 2nd gear...During
>city driving I find first gear useless!!!  1st gets me from about zero to
>three miles an hour.  Also, what effects does this have on my
>clutch/gearbox/engine...any premature wear?
>regards,

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 13 lines)]
>Denver, Colorado
>66IIA SWB SW

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: BRLRC Oktoberfest Rally
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:11:16 +0200 (MET DST)

Hi Andy,
| Just wondering how many of the Listers are going to the Blue Ridge
| Land Rover Club Oktoberfest rally this weekend in Parkersburg, WVA? 

Sorry, but your a bit late with this. The Oktoberfest has closed
last weekend....  ;-)

sorry, couldn't hold it
Franz in an again nicely quiet Munich....
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-
                                  

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Landy meeting in Southern Germany 
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:22:09 +0200 (MET DST)

Hi all,
sorry for the crosspost, but I wanted to make sure to reach everyone
who is interested.
As I posted a while ago on the European list there is a little LR
meeting on the weekend 31.Oct.-2.Nov. in Miesbach (40km south of
Munich/M"unchen). If anyone is interested there is more info
(in German) on my web page at:
http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz/lr/lr.local.html
If you need any directions in English just drop me a line.

I'm there from Saturday onwards. Would be nice to see some of you 
there. What out for Brumml and me...

cu,
Franz
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 02:35:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Importation

David wrote..."The ARO is made in Poland, I think...they are supposed to
start importing it soon."

They already have. When I was in Reno for the air races (my how I spent my
vacation post), there was one for sale there, by a dealer! However, I was in
such a catatonic state from a long previous day, followed by a long overnight
drive, that about all I did, was take a picture of it, and move on to the
Griffen-engined P-51 that was there (hey - it caught my eye. Besides, the
last time I saw one of those, was in '78, when the RB-51 crashed - the only
other Griffen-engined 51 to exist), and I didn't open the bonnet to see what
was underneath it.

Cool looking truck, and it has better factory-provided belly protection, than
any Jeep ever has.

Charles

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 01:46:33 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@math.earlham.edu>
Subject: Conservation of problems...

I had been strugling with my 88 IIa's brakes for the last month or so. 
Whatever I did I was unable to get a hard pedal on the first pump.  The
only resistance seemed to be the return spring. The second go around, the
pedal was hard about 1/3 of the way through.  They would stay this way for
several seconds after the pedal was let up.  I replaced almost everything:
master cylinder, all of the wheel cylinders, flex lines, the brake pipe I
managed to break, shoes, had the drums skimed (still well within spec).  I
nearly became convinced that the brakes were going to get the better of
me.  I mentioned this to one of the people in the local club.  He asked if
they worked in reverse.  Sort of, why?  The pivot on the backing plate
gets loose, and moves when you put pressure on it.  They don't get so
loose that you can't adjust them.  He told me to replace the backing
plates.  Problem solved.  
 Except that backing plates cost better than 100 bucks a pop.  So being
cheap, I welded the pivots back where they belong.  I am now in danger of
knocking my head against the steering wheel. (if only because I am still
used to having to pump them up...).  if you do this, you need to be
careful to get the pivot in the right place.  If you put it the wrong one,
you will not be able to get the brakes to work and will be buying new
backing plates.  On both of the ones I did, the correct place was very
nearly all the way forward in the play.  

I don't think I have heard anyone mention this here before.  

Of course, since my brakes work my turn signals, speedometer, and main
beam warning don't.  And I have misplaced my only key.  (I really have
been meaning to get a copy made... Does anyone know what the blank is?  I
can make one from the lock if i have a couple blanks. )  Fortunatly, the
switch intended for the dashboard lights is very easy to turn into a
subsitute ignition.  

David

--------
David_Scheidt@math.earlham.edu

yip yip yip yap yap yak yap yip *BANG*  -- no terrier
1966 SIIA 88"  

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 22:08:49 -0400
Subject: Re: do you remember...LR

Re: Emergency!

The firehouse show.....ack.

The other car was an early Porsche - why am I thinking 366 or summat like
that?

               Al" I wish I could forget this useless trivia...8*)"r

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From: Autoconv@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:17:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: splines&axels (reply)

Richard

Yes I am here, and yes our company is called Automatic Conversions,

Regards
David Ashcroft

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From: Autoconv@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:17:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: splines (reply)

10 spline

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From: Autoconv@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:17:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: splines

Don't worry, all Ser I, II, IIA and III 88's are 10 spline

Dave Ashcroft

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:39:16 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: splines

>Don't worry, all Ser I, II, IIA and III 88's are 10 spline
>Dave Ashcroft

Not quite,Dave.The son of a colleague has just bought a S111 88",
post 1980,I believe,to whom I gave a pair of 24 spline FWH.They
fitted.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 04:53:47 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: Roller Painting and Radiator Muffs

oops, that was supposed to go to Bill, sorry

David

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Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 12:30:04 +0200
From: Ketil Oftedahl <Ketil.Oftedahl@robin.no>
Subject: SIIa gearbox in a SIII ?

I have just bought a 1973 Ser III ex-military station wagon. For some
reason it has the 1-ton gearbox, which I want to replace with a standard
box.
Will it be possible to use a gearbox from a SIIa? Should I keep the SIII
clutch and bellhousing, or use the Ser IIa parts? The "Haynes LR Ser I,
II, and III purchase and restoration guide" describes the fitting of a
SIII box to a SIIa, and states that some shafts and gears from the SIIa
box must be used (to be able to use the SIIa clutch). Is that right ? Do
I then have to modify the SIIa box to use it with the SIII
clutch/bellhousing?
Another possible(?) option seems to be to replace the mainshaft and
transfer box, and keep the SIII gearbox, but I have been told that the
SIIa box is stronger. (I know it does not have syncro on 1st/2nd gears).
Any advice and/or opinions ???

Ketil Oftedahl

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