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1 | kelliott@intranet.ca (Ke | 21 | Wild Speedo. |
2 | Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo | 28 | Re: Wild Speedo. |
3 | john cranfield [john.cra | 21 | Re: Wild Speedo. |
4 | kelliott@intranet.ca (Ke | 22 | Re: Wild Speedo. |
5 | Anthony Sanna [asanna@sa | 39 | [not specified] |
6 | M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M | 20 | Re: IIa Drive Train Puzzler |
7 | matt [nelsml73@snyoneva. | 9 | Frame Over |
8 | matt [nelsml73@snyoneva. | 6 | (no subject) |
9 | David Russell [David_R@m | 12 | [not specified] |
10 | "Michael Wells" [michael | 16 | Gaiters |
11 | matt [nelsml73@snyoneva. | 13 | Re: Gaiters |
12 | "Mazur" [robertm@cco.net | 26 | Inconsistent Idle '89RR |
13 | Michael R Fredette [mfre | 34 | Re: Inconsistent Idle '89RR |
14 | Paul Oxley [paul@adventu | 6 | subscribe |
15 | Norm Lewis [norm@kpco.co | 26 | Re: Pierce intake manifolds in cold weather |
16 | Matt Nelson [nelsml73@sn | 13 | Diff Lockers |
17 | debrown@srp.gov | 69 | Offer on my 109 (for sale) |
18 | Matt Nelson [nelsml73@sn | 33 | Re: Offer on my 109 (for sale) |
19 | "Eyres, Richard RP" [Eyr | 26 | RE: Gear boxes and Bellhousing Question |
20 | john cranfield [john.cra | 20 | Re: Diff Lockers |
21 | "Ryan O. Emge" [ts4@top. | 16 | Range Rover for Sale... |
22 | matt [nelsml73@snyoneva. | 17 | yet another question-hydraulics. |
23 | john cranfield [john.cra | 6 | where's the nerd |
24 | "K. John Wood" [jwrover@ | 16 | Need Help Subscribing |
25 | john cranfield [john.cra | 18 | Re: Need Help Subscribing |
26 | FisherRKTX@aol.com | 26 | re: Replacement Seats |
27 | "Christopher H. Dow" [do | 20 | Re: Replacement Seats |
28 | FisherRKTX@aol.com | 16 | Re: Landy vs Eugene the Jeep |
29 | Neil Sheridan [neil_seg@ | 34 | 10 Signs You've Bought a NADA Land-Rover |
30 | "Eyres, Richard RP" [Eyr | 46 | re: Replacement Seats |
31 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 69 | Mid-Atlantic Rally |
32 | BarrieWyLR@aol.com | 8 | Re: Diff Lockers |
33 | "J.M. Reinan" [jreinan@l | 35 | Viva Rochester! |
34 | Simon Ward-Hastelow [sim | 22 | [not specified] |
35 | DHW4U@aol.com | 10 | Re: Viva Rochester! |
36 | Iwan Vosloo [ivosloo@cs. | 14 | Churchill tools website? |
37 | David L Glaser [dlglaser | 15 | Re: Mid-Atlantic Rally |
38 | David L Glaser [dlglaser | 29 | Sightings/Mid-Atlantic |
39 | Autoconv@aol.com | 20 | Re: Diff Lockers (Reply) |
40 | Autoconv@aol.com | 14 | Re: Churchill tools website? |
41 | Steve Mace [steve@solwis | 39 | RE: Leather gaiters on swivel hubs?? |
42 | Franz Parzefall [franz@m | 41 | Re: Leather gaiters on swivel hubs?? |
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:00:19 -0400 (EDT) From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott) Subject: Wild Speedo. Hi Everyone... I have just attached a speedometer cable to my LR for the first time since I have owned it. I can almost tell how slow I am going now :) I remember back a while on the list the topic of speedos moveing wildly and that there was a fix for it. I remember something about a nut that has to be tightened but I thats as far as my memory goes. Does Someone who remembers about this email me and give me the low down on what has to be done to fix this problem. Another thing that I am curious about is on an 88" fitted with 7.50s what kind of discrepencies (sp) have people found between what is shown on the speedo and the actual speed? Thanks Keith 1961 Series II 88" ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:07:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Wild Speedo. Re: Nut to be tightened: In between the driver's seat and the steering wheel.....8*) Sorry....couldn't resist....8*) Seriously, the one that's most likely buggered is the nut holding on the rear drive flange to the transfer case output shaft. Drop the rear propshaft at the transfer case - you'll find a castellated nut secured with a cotter pin - that's the beast. It needs to be torqued to 85 foot-pounds if my memory serves me correctly. Also, make doggone sure the speedo cable is properly secured to the back of the speedometer - if not, it will swing wildly as the square drive end doesn't engage the socket on the rear of the speedo drive correctly. Re: Correction factor: I'd take a guess at 10% and go with that... if you're at all friendly with your local gendermarie then a request for a speed check to an officer on radar gun duty might well get you the info you need with a minimum of hassle. Alan/Mr. Churchill ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:17:55 -0300 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Wild Speedo. the wild speedo can be fixed by 1. get under the rover(your usual position) 2. remove the front of the rear drive shaft. 3. remove the cotter pin and tighten the nut revealed there to about as tight as you can with 1/2 in ratchet without a cheater bar. 4, replace driveshaft Keith Elliott wrote: > Hi Everyone... > I have just attached a speedometer cable to my LR for the first time > since I have owned it. I can almost tell how slow I am going now :) I > remember back a while on the list the topic of speedos moveing wildly and > that there was a fix for it. I remember something about a nut that has to be > tightened but I thats as far as my memory goes. Does Someone who remembers [ truncated by list-digester (was 18 lines)] > Keith > 1961 Series II 88" ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:17:45 -0400 (EDT) From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott) Subject: Re: Wild Speedo. >Re: Nut to be tightened: >In between the driver's seat and the steering wheel.....8*) Thats funny, ever since buying the Landy my significant other says the same thing... >Sorry....couldn't resist....8*) >Seriously, the one that's most likely buggered is the nut holding on the >rear drive flange to the transfer case output shaft. Drop the rear >propshaft at the transfer case - you'll find a castellated nut secured with >a cotter pin - that's the beast. It needs to be torqued to 85 foot-pounds >if my memory serves me correctly. Thanks Alan, I'll check that. Keith 1961 Series II 88" ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: IIa Drive Train Puzzler Date: Mon, 6 Oct 97 08:27:33 -0500 From: Anthony Sanna <asanna@sacofoods.com> >ok dad, here it is: >NOTHING happens until i put it into LOW RANGE 4wd, then EVERYTHING works (LR >+ HR 4WD, 2WD). actually i don't know about the overdrive. >k. OK... Let's review: 2WD, ROVER DOESN'T MOVE. Questions: Does the rear drive shaft spin with engine running, clutch out, in gear? Does moving the O/D lever to the in or out positions make a diference? Does engaging 4WD high range (yellow knob down) move the truck? ..spin the drive shafts? LOW RANGE 4WD, ROVER MOVES. Questions: Is there power to the rear wheels? ...can you spin the rear wheels/throw stones on a gravel road, or just with the front tires? ...do you get wheel-hop while turning on pavement? Does moving the O/D lever to the in or out positions make a diference? HIGH RANGE 4WD & 2WD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. Are you saying that IF you you put Lulubelle in low range 4WD (red lever back) and then back into high range (red lever forward) that 2WD & high range 4WD then work? I need more information, Kyle. Let me know. Dad Anthony R. Sanna SACO Foods, Inc. 6120 University Avenue Middleton, Wisconsin 53562 USA asanna@sacofoods.com 1-800-373-7226 (608) 238-9101 ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:34:04 +0000 From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth) Subject: Re: IIa Drive Train Puzzler >>ok dad, here it is: >>NOTHING happens until i put it into LOW RANGE 4wd, then EVERYTHING works (LR >>+ HR 4WD, 2WD). actually i don't know about the overdrive. >>k. >HIGH RANGE 4WD & 2WD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. Er...this is probably going to get my head onna block,but... It sounds like a little confusion as to the red lever.Sounds as though he's pushing it *forward* thinking he's engaging Low Box,then pulling it back into neutral,rather than fully rearward. He wont get anywhere with it in neutral,and pushing it forwards will restore the status quo. Now I'll duck:-) Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 10:53:46 -0700 From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Frame Over Does anyone have any tips for someone who is attempting their first > frame over on a 65 sIIa88? > thanks > Matt Nelson ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 10:55:14 -0700 From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: (no subject) subscribe lro ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: test-ignore Date: Mon, 6 Oct 97 11:23:02 -0400 From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com> test David Russell http://www.mindspring.com/~david_r David_R@mindspring.com 1969 SIIA SWB (Pastel Green, 4-speed) 1997 SD (Oxford Blue, 5-speed) 1977 FJ40 (rust, 8-speed (hopefully still)) ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Michael Wells" <michael.wells@rjt.co.uk> Subject: Gaiters Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:36:00 +0100 I have leather gaitors fitted to my series 1 and i find them good while the leather stays supple. A few years ago i fitted a kit to my 80". Job very easy just split the swivel from the axle tube and install the new kit with a new swivel seal then refit. The chrome needs to be good to start with as a rusty surface soon tears the seal lip. The 80" seals lasted about 5 years untill they got so dry they cracked but the ones fitted to the 86" are lasting much longer than that. If you dont need to fit a new seal you can fit the gaitors without splitting the axle, just lace them up. Has anyone any information on the rubber gaitors fitted to the Dutch army Land Rovers? Mick. Great Yarmouth, 1954 86" petrol. ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:51:02 -0700 From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Re: Gaiters The rovers I've observed had better swivels when they didn't have gaiters, it seems as though the gaiters hold in more stuff(salt etc) and keep it in contact with the swivels for longer than would be true if there are no gaiters. just my thoughts matt nelson ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Mazur" <robertm@cco.net> Subject: Inconsistent Idle '89RR Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:31:33 -0700 Being a new guy to the Rover scene, I'd appreciate anyone's fantastic advice on this... I have an '89 RR. It seems in the past week it has developed the following 3 symptoms: 1) At 40 mph with my foot off the throttle the engine surges between 1000rpm to 2000 rpm till it moves away from 40mph*** 2) At highway speeds when I let off the throttle the engine "clicks" (like someone shutting off a water faucet) but will still idle down the highway; stepping back onto the throttle produces another "click" and it sounds like the fuel is pouring in again (like turning the faucet back on)*** 3) When put into "PARK" after driving for a bit, the enigine will occassionaly (50% of the time) idle high, up at around 2000rpm. I'm a Weekend Warrior fix-it guy and would like to repair this myself...but I'd love to get a suggestion or two from you guys. Could it be clog in fuel line...bad spark plugs...something loose in the thottle assembly..??? Thanks in advance. Rob-Seattle-USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Michael R Fredette <mfredett@ptdcs2.intel.com> Subject: Re: Inconsistent Idle '89RR Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Being a new guy to the Rover scene, I'd appreciate anyone's fantastic advice on this... I have an '89 RR. It seems in the past week it has developed the following 3 symptoms: 1) At 40 mph with my foot off the throttle the engine surges between 1000rpm to 2000 rpm till it moves away from 40mph*** 2) At highway speeds when I let off the throttle the engine "clicks" (like someone shutting off a water faucet) but will still idle down the highway; stepping back onto the throttle produces another "click" and it sounds like the fuel is pouring in again (like turning the faucet back on)*** 3) When put into "PARK" after driving for a bit, the enigine will occassionaly (50% of the time) idle high, up at around 2000rpm. I'm a Weekend Warrior fix-it guy and would like to repair this myself...but I'd love to get a suggestion or two from you guys. Could it be clog in fuel line...bad spark plugs...something loose in the thottle assembly..??? Thanks in advance. Rob-Seattle-USA Rob, It sounds like your idle-stepper motor is kapput. Very common.A bit spendy, but easily replaced. You can try taking off and cleaning it up, but it's better if just replaced. Rgds Mike Fredette ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:25:55 +0200 From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za> Subject: subscribe subscribe lro ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:32:41 -0600 From: Norm Lewis <norm@kpco.com> Subject: Re: Pierce intake manifolds in cold weather On Sunday, Oct. 5 1997 David Scheidt wrote: > 3) I am concerned about how this is going to run during the winter. When > it is slightly chilly, it seems to stumble a bit until the temp. gague > reads 100F (and requires the choke longer than that.). I suspect this > behavior will not improve when the tempature goes even lower. I am also > concerned about icing. there is no preheating of intake air, and the carb > is pretty well isolated from the exhaust manifold. Is this a justifable > concern, and what can be done? Contact Pierce. They have a hot water adapter that they weld to the base of the intake manifold to provide some intake heat for cold-weather driving. They say it even helps some in warmer weather too. Although I haven't had much problems in cold weather with the Weber set-up without this, I still plan to have this modification done soon, as the past few Colorado winters have been relatively mild in Denver, and one of these years we just may have a cold one! I've also heard that Weber has a carb spacer that incorporates hot water hookups, but I don't have any details on this. It may show up in a Weber catalog, though. ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 14:47:15 -0700 From: Matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Diff Lockers Does anyone know of a source for Diff lockers other thna ARB? I am interested in automatic lockers for my S2a88 and do not want to deal with ARBs. What info do I need to know about my Diffs when asking for a Diff locker? Just that they are rover type diffs? Help me out I'm really confused thanks Matt Nelson ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: debrown@srp.gov Date: 06 Oct 97 13:00:36 MST Subject: Offer on my 109 (for sale) From: <debrown@srp.gov> PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com Hello all, I have a IIa '70 109 5 door, safari top, deluxe bonnet, Warn locking hubs, original door panels, good headliner (one small tear) deluxe seats (a few tears), dual heater, overdrive 11 passenger (rear heater takes one spot) in good condition but with rusty frame. Everything is working except the speedometer, cold start light, and the door locks, and is all original and intact. I also have (new parts) almost all replacement seals, rubber window seals, shift boots, vent seals, one swivel ball, Rancho 5000 shocks, polyurathine bushings, folding steps, door frame repair kits, and various other parts to restore it, including a complete (though, used, it's rust free) frame. I have somewhere in the neighborhood of $8500 to $9000 (asking price is $8900) invested into it. It runs great but needs valve guide seals (puffs when you start it) which I also have the parts for. Frame is rusty, but not going to break in half, bulkhead is good but a little rust at the bottom door hinge (not rusted through). Basically, it has probably 90% of everything you would need to restore it. It runs great, and was used as my daily driver for around 9 months. 3 tires are "fair to good" condition, and the 4th is "poor" but the spare is "new" with only about 100 miles on it (used for 2 days while I had a tube replaced.) Only known bad item that I don't have a replacement for is the front U-joint, which I have just recently noticed. Also, an occasional grind of the gears when entering 4th (synchro's starting to wear, but not "gone.") My question is: I have been offered $8000 for the whole mess, should I take it??? I *really* hate to sell it, (have become very attached to it) but absolutely do *not* have time for it, and need the $ to buy a new house, and therefore must sell, keeping is not a possibility. ;-( I've been very honest and candid about it's condition to you, as well as the prospective buyer (in Michigan). It's in better condition than every other 109 I've seen up close, but I've seen *very* few others. Dave (perplexed, but somewhat anxious to sell) Brown I am in digest mode, so please respond directly. I have also copied to the "mendo" list, though I no longer subscribe to it, because there are a *lot* of very knowledgeable people on it that may be helpful in this matter. Thanks a *great* deal, Dave (perplexed, but somewhat anxious to sell) Brown Dave Brown - Phoenix Arizona USA 602.820.8052 Pager: 602.275.2508 #6486 offering: Books, tools, knowledge, lodging, coffee, shoulder to cry on... #=====# 1971 "88" IIa - "Simba" |___|__\___ LIC: LION B8 | _ | |_ |} Just your basic trail beast. "(_)""""(_)" Other- 1970 "109" IIa '87 Range Rover (soon 4.6 eng) / Historic plates rear Lock-Right Bilstein shocks -Rovers "Shake-n-bake" Crane cam Optima battery aka: Shake-n-break, OME HD springs SSB CB radio & other terms of endearment 6 Hella lights Flowmaster muffler Never give up your life for #=======# _____l___ anything that death can take away. |__|__|__\___ //__|__|__\___ -anonymous | _| | |_ |} \__ - ____ - _|} "(_)""""""(_)" (_) (_) ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 16:24:58 -0700 From: Matt Nelson <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: Re: Offer on my 109 (for sale) If keeping your rover is an option I'd do that, I've been in a position this year where I've had to sell a lot of posessions that were very dear to me, at prices that were below their value in my eyes. This has really made me unhappy and has made me decide to keep my extra rover(a series 3 88) even though I cannot give it the attention it needs right now. Selling stuff your attached to sucks, you can get money in any number of ways but the likelyhood of your getting a rover like you describe at the price you've been offered for it is unlikely. It will cost you a lot more if you ever decide to get one again. If there is any way you could just store it you'd be better off, rovers are in a sellers market right now and are a good investment. as you have all the parts necessary to repair it you may as well keep it until you have the time and extra money to refurbish/restore it completely. Hope this helpe you avoid the mistakes I've made, The stuff I've sold will be very hard to replace, the money i got for it wasn't worth it, and I had I gotten the money any other way i would be a lot happier right now. :( Hope this helps Matt nelson 65 sIIa 88 70 sIIa 88 72 sIII 88 ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Eyres, Richard RP" <Eyres.Richard.RP@bhp.com.au> Subject: RE: Gear boxes and Bellhousing Question Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:32:00 +1000 ---------- >From: Eyres, Richard RP >To: lro@playground.sun.com >Subject: Gear boxes and Bellhousing Question >Date: Friday, 3 October 1997 16:11 >Advice wanted. >The gearbox on my 1973 S3 SWB is in need of some (expensive) TLC, as it is becoming more common for the gears to graunch >when changing up or down, especially between 2nd and 3rd. Doesn't always do it, but it is getting a bit worse, and occasionally Thanks to all those who offered advice. I'll start by working through the clutch system and see what happens. Could be a little while before I get to it though as my (Holden)motor has suddenly turned into a 5 cylinder (approx. 20 psi on no5, others are all 120+) so it looks like pull the head off time. (valves all go up and down, oil in cylinder makes no difference, no excessive crankcase pressure when running) @#@%^^&& There goes my 'accessory fund' (again!) Richard ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:39:15 -0300 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Diff Lockers Matt Nelson wrote: > Does anyone know of a source for Diff lockers other thna ARB? I am > interested in automatic lockers for my S2a88 and do not want to deal > with ARBs. What info do I need to know about my Diffs when asking for a > Diff locker? Just that they are rover type diffs? Help me out I'm really > confused > thanks [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)] > thanks > Matt Nelson talk to Reider Racing in Detroit(their number will be in almost any US 4x4 mag. They stock TruTrack and Detroit Lockers for Land Rovers, tell them you have rover axles with 4.71 ratios.Compared to ARB the prices will please you. have fun john ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 18:52:23 -0400 From: "Ryan O. Emge" <ts4@top.monad.net> Subject: Range Rover for Sale... -- I live in New England, and I am looking for a Range Rover from the years 1988 to 1992, would anyone happen to be selling one? Thank you. _------__ Ryan O. Emge - MonadNet Tech Support - __------------------__ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MonadNet Corporation E-mail: remge@monad.net | Phone: (603) 352-7619 39 Central Square Tech Support: (603)357-1894 | Toll Free: (800)576-1019 Keene, NH 03431 Fax: (603)357-1267 ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 18:50:22 -0700 From: matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> Subject: yet another question-hydraulics. Has anyone any experience with automec's copper alloy brake lines and silicone brake fluid? Every car restorer I've talked to has said it is a good idea when you rebuild an entire system to go with Silicone but no one has had any experience with copper alloy lines, just stainless steel. As i've already got the lines and fluid I guess its a moot point but has anyone had any problems that I should know about before I put it all together? thanks, matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:51:46 -0300 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: where's the nerd would Jeff Berg please cotact me ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "K. John Wood" <jwrover@colo-net.com> Subject: Need Help Subscribing Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 14:12:37 -0600 HELP!!! I chainged addresses and have not been able to get back on the lro series vehicle reg. list. Please help...A bloke from Austria sent me a letter talling me how but it didn't seem to work!!! Yours' K. John Wood Event Co- Solihull Society ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 20:43:03 -0300 From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Need Help Subscribing K. John Wood wrote: > HELP!!! > I chainged addresses and have not been able to get back on the lro series > vehicle reg. list. > Please help...A bloke from Austria sent me a letter talling me how but it > didn't seem to work!!! [ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)] > K. John Wood > Event Co- Solihull Society John I just went through this. type in the Email box subscribe LRO Real-Time distribution ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: FisherRKTX@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 20:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: re: Replacement Seats I was looking over my friend's J##p aftermarket seats, and the way they mounted looked like they'd work in my Series Rover. They're more of a racing style bucket seat with good lumbar support (but don't recline). They were actually pretty comfortable once you where able to get in them (high sides). He got them at a 4x4 shop near SantaFe & Hampden in Denver (4 wheel part wholesalers also has a selection out in Aurora). They have a selection to choose from. He purchased these after searching junk yard for anything else that might work. He did find some from a VW bug that would of worked with a little fabrication on the mounts.... Something to watch out for though is that most won't allow access under the seat to get at the storage box (or battery in my case). I have the LR deluxe set in mine, and they seem just fine to me. I noticed that Rover's North offers a non-genuine replacement in the deluxe style as well. Since I'm going through the same thing, I am trying to figure out how to mount a anti-whiplash headrest to the bulkhead; any ideas? How about seat covers (my foam is good, but the vinyl is split on uppers and base... Chris Fisher '73 Land Rover Series III hybrid ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 17:34:54 -0700 From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> Subject: Re: Replacement Seats Jim Krebs wrote: > The previous owner of my '62 88 had fitted some domestic bucket seats > which are now in the landfill. I am in search of replacement seats. I'd > like something approaching D90 style (high back and lumbar support). I've > priced new D90 seats and have almost recovered from the shock. Are there > used seats, Volvo, VW, etc. that will work? Any new replacements that are > good (I need the sliding mechanisms too, PO saw to that)? I'd appreciate > any advice. I have high-back seats w/ headrests in "Caviar" cloth. I bought them from BP, but they are the same that BLRS advertize in LROI. I'm very happy with them. They cost about $400. Also, they just fit the way the old seats fit (no sliding mechanism). C ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: FisherRKTX@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 20:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Landy vs Eugene the Jeep Sorry to jump into this so late, but I had another comment that I liked when I read a four-wheeler magazine comparing the J**p to the Defender. The thing I liked descibing the different philosophies behind the vehicles was that they mentioned that the Land Rover was the only manufacturer to offer a winch option from the factory... Too me that kind of hit the nail on the head about the purpose of the vehicle... BTW: They choose the Defender as the best... Chris Fisher ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Neil Sheridan <neil_seg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: 10 Signs You've Bought a NADA Land-Rover Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:32:30 -0400 Offered with all due apologies to the original artist (?), I thought that the original UK version of "10 Signs" could be amended for those of us in the "North American Dollar Area". 1. You buy specially imported, glossy magazines with pictures of half-naked, oiled up, muddy -- trucks. 2. You buy Orange Go-Jo hand cleaner by the gallon. 3. You can name and have on hand four or more different oil viscosities. 4. You swivel-head driving past every junkyard. 5. You go get AAA Plus membership (and use it up to their 6 tows per year maximum). 6. Your insurance agent has never heard of an 88-inch Station Wagon. 7. You're applying for multiple gas credit cards. 8. When giving friends a lift, you always hear yourself say: "Smell? What smell?" 9. Your friends are buying stock in gas companies. 10. The vehicle comes with a history, boxes of spare parts, and a shop manual under the seat. Any other regional variations on the theme? Best regards, Neil Sheridan '65 88 'The Sheridan Valdez' (still looking for a better name) Land-Ho's Rover Club neil_seg@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Eyres, Richard RP" <Eyres.Richard.RP@bhp.com.au> Subject: re: Replacement Seats Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:38:00 +1000 ---------- >From: FisherRKTX@aol.com >To: lro@playground.sun.com >Subject: re: Replacement Seats >Date: Tuesday, 7 October 1997 10:25 snip.. >Something to watch out for though is that most won't allow access under >To: lro@playground.sun.com the >seat to get at the storage box (or battery in my case). I have the LR deluxe >set in mine, and they seem just fine to me. I noticed that Rover's North >offers a non-genuine replacement in the deluxe style as well. Since I'm >going through the same thing, I am trying to figure out how to mount a >anti-whiplash headrest to the bulkhead; any ideas? How about seat covers >(my foam is good, but the vinyl is split on uppers and base... >Chris Fisher >'73 Land Rover Series III hybrid My S3 was fitted with front seats ( high back reclining bucket type with built in head rest) from, I believe an early Toyota Corrolla by the PO, but have no slides, and are just bolted down. They are comfortable and don't look out of place. The seat backs also tip forward to give access to the small behind the seats storage area. To gain access to the under seat locker I have cut an access hole in the front of the seat box and fitted a drop down hinged lid. I was able to reuse the original LR latch to hold the lid closed. This is OK for storage, but wouldn't be much use if that's where your batteries are. I guess you could fabricate some sort of quick release or tipping mechanism to gain access (check out what some of the small Jap forward control van use to access the engine etc.) For me , my steering wheel is in the 'right' place so there is plenty of room to access the passenger side under seat locker. Judging by your AOL address I assume you wheel is on the 'wrong' side so I guess you'll have less room, but something may still be possible. Richard. ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 22:03:33 -0400 (EDT) From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Mid-Atlantic Rally The rally this past weekend was a big success - we had 160+ vehicles - we're not quite sure how many, as the computer got unplugged while my wife was doing a save in QuattroPro and the entire spreadsheet file was, well, buggered. Anyway, here are the winners: The Aluminium Man Triathlon: 1st Place, Michael Boggs of Afton, VA (prizes. a $600 gift certificate for B. F. Goodrich tires, a $150 Rovers North gift certificate and a MAX Tool plus an engaved tankard). 2nd, Eric Zipkin (an engraved jefferson cup, $150 Rovers North g.c., a High Lift jack from DAP and a Triple C g.c.). 3rd, Ernie Young (a $75 Rovers North g.c, a Triple C g.c., and a British Pacific jerry can). The Teeter Totter: Bill Maniscalco, 17 seconds (an engraved cup, Rovers North driving lights, "Working in the Wild" from British Pacific, Rovers North binoculars, and an Atlantic British shirt). Paul Prosser, 20 seconds (a cool Rovers North vest, RN shorts and a Land Rover University shirt). Alex Maiolo, 43 seconds (Atlantic British Barbour socks, Triple C and Land Rover Rockville shirts, a LRNA umbrella) Most Versatile Vehicle: Herb Zipkin's 'round the world' 109 expedition. People's Choice: "Diesel Bob" McCullough's IIB forward control. Greatest Distance Traveled: Robert Taglienti up from Naples, Florida. Blindfold Obstacle Course: Stuart Moore, Loftis Hitchins, Dave Childress. Slow Race: Will Parks, Michael Mason, Paul Prosser. (all drove IIa 88's). Coil Sprung "Feeley Meeley" Box: Jack Walter (1 1/2 out of 5). Series "Feeley Meeley" Box: Robert Davis (6/6), Mark Garrenton (5/6). Land Rover North America donated some *major* items for the silent auction. These included: a chrome A-bar for Discovery, a brush bar for a Discovery (both $700+ items), a roof top cargo carrier, a Warn recovery kit, fire extinguisher and wheel locks. Unfortunately, due to the parsimonious nature of the rally participants, these high-price items went for pennies on the dollar. For instance, the genuine Disco brush bar went for a mere $61 - and to someone who had already *destroyed* theirs. Other items went for close to retail prices: a set of Safari Gard D-90 rock sliders, a set of diff guards and a rock guard. There was spirited bidding on the British Pacific jerry can, the Badger Coachworks bimini top, and a director's chair from Land Rover Greensboro went for more than cost. The rally organizers would like to thank the event sponsors, Land Rover Richmond and Land Rover North America. Other benefactors included B. F. Goodrich, British Bulldog, Safari Gard, Rovers North, British Pacific, Atlantic British, DAP, Badger Coachworks, Land Rover Rockville, Land Rover Greensboro, and Bucksnort Cigars. Thanks again, one and all. On a side note, my '72 88 turned 200,000 miles on the way home. Cheers *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. | | "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas" | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) | | 757-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 757-622-7056 | | | *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---* ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: BarrieWyLR@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Diff Lockers Great Basin Rovvers, in Salt Lake City, put K A M air lockers on my SII 88 they seem to work fairly well. His # is 801-486-5049. ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:02:08 -0600 From: "J.M. Reinan" <jreinan@lawyernet.com> Subject: Viva Rochester! After much research & anal retentive behavior, I installed a rebuilt Rochester Model B onto my '64 88". Jim Axman donated the old pot to my cause as he is amidst the total, frame-off restoration of his 109, and had already ordered a clean, new carb from RN. Thanks, Jim! After soaking the carb in cleaner for two days straight, it took a $10.00 rebuild with little or no unusual effort. I could say that the old GM carb "replaced" the Solex, but that would be beyond mere British understatement. In fact, the difference between the Rochester and the Solex is so great that I've lost (at least temporarily) my unnatural lust for D90s. For anyone considering a quick & dirty boost for the old 2 1/4, the Rochester is it. For those of you with incurable & unnatural lust for other things, I have no reasonable suggestions. Oh, and by the way, I used a #48 jet. The only mods you'll need to make include an air cleaner (get one at Pep Boys) and a reversal of the linkage. You'll also have to do some minor rigging on the choke cable, since the Solex is set up differently. In any case, it's well worth the bother. Jay Reinan '64 88" '61 Willys Utility '62 Willys Pickup '91 Jag XJS conv P.S. What do you suppose would happen if I crammed the Jag V12 motor into the Series? ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: 4000 UK Military S111s released for sale Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 06:05:19 -0000 From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com> There was an interesting story in Sunday's Telegraph about the UK Military releasing 4000 (yes thats a four and three zeros) S111 Landrovers. Most of these have been acquired by a company near Lichfield in the midlands (Military Vehicle Spares) who regularly deal in these kind of acquisitions but I'm not sure if they sell direct to Joe Public. The Director of the company is quoted as saying they already have 400 and expect a further 3000 by Christmas. Some of the vehicles are late models. I'm not sure what kind of effect a mass sale of this kind will have on the Second-Hand values of similar LRs in the UK, they may only sell limited quantities over time, or even job lots to other countries or other governments perhaps. Further comments were quoted from various Army Commanders criticising the sale, stating that it will leave them short of operational vehicles due to the delay in delivery of the latest XD Military Landrovers, some of which are not expected to ship until late 1999. ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: DHW4U@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Viva Rochester! you want to sell the jag ? i just sold my rover!!! i gave the guy my rebuilt roc. if he installs it i will give you a holler'''' ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 08:59:11 +0100 From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za> Subject: Churchill tools website? Hi all, do any of you know whether Churchill tools have a website somewhere? As I understand it they made a bunch of land rover special tools. Actually, it would be nice to contact any company that makes land rover special tools on the web. - Iwan Vosloo ( 1975 SIII 88" Diesel ) ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 03:26:05 -0400 From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Re: Mid-Atlantic Rally I wish I could have made it for fri night and Sat., but Sunday was better than not comming at all. I was one of the few without a Rover at the event. My Disco was in the shop for its 4th power steering box. I was tempted to take the rented Dodge Breeze off road, but I didn't want to embarass myself. By the way, Did anyone buy that SS A-Bar? I didn't see anayone walk off with it? David Glaser ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 03:42:55 -0400 From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Sightings/Mid-Atlantic On the way back from the Mid-Atlantic I passed a few Series II/III. Ofcourse I waved. though, I was in a white, rented Dodge. Most people waved back. But a few looked puzzeled, they couldn't figure out why some guy in a little white car was waving to them! On the way back to NY I made a few sightings. I saw about 20 D90 wagons lined up at the Baltimore port. When you get out of the tunnel, not the McHenry tunnel, the other one (895 I think) you get a clear view of the port. You could see hundreds of Toyotas and other vehicles lined up, but in the corner were 2 rows of D90s. They all looked like the Willow Green "Diamond Plate Special," except one. There was one that looked very dark. It was painted in Black, dark green, or dark blue. It was impossible to tell from the distance. And the roof was not painted white, it was black. I wonder whos gonna get that one. Also, I thought LRNA was only gonna bring in 250 of them? My dealer just got #254. And he says he is going to get anther 8. It sounds to me that LR is going to bring in as many as they can build. I also saw a really nice red Morgan +8, with British plates and right side steering, a red TR6, and a blue and white BSA triple. OK, I know its not a Rover sighting, but most LR owners are British vehicle enthusiasts. David Glaser ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Autoconv@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 03:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Diff Lockers (Reply) Matt We have experience in many types of diff lock for the LR vehicles and can supply all the associated parts to fit the diffs to the IIA axle, ie, crown wheel spacer and brg sleeves as you have 4.7 ratio imperial diffs. We stock the ARB, Detroit Locker and Detroit Truetrac all of which have their pro's and con's but we stock them all so we have a full range of the options available and can offer impartial advice. E mail me for further info on : autoconv@aol.com Regards David Ashcroft Automatic Conversions ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Autoconv@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 03:49:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Churchill tools website? Iwan I don't know if they are on line but their phone number is : +44 1327 704461 Regards David Ashcroft ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 08:47:22 From: Steve Mace <steve@solwise.demon.co.uk> Subject: RE: Leather gaiters on swivel hubs?? --- On 04 Oct 97 19:46:19 +0000 Lenny Warren <lenny@fof.coracle.com> wrote: >From: lenny@fof.coracle.com (Lenny Warren) >Hi there folks, >Any thoughts on the leather military gaiters for the front swivel hubs?? >Are they worth it?? Are they easy to fit??? [ truncated by list-digester (was 21 lines)] >| Fidonet: Lenny Warren 2:258/1.12 >| Internet: lenny@fof.coracle.com -----------------End of Original Message----------------- Generally I think they are a good thing but beware! I had some on my LtWt when I got it. I ran it that way for 4 years and completely forgot about them. When I decided to redo the swivel housings I found that the gaiters were 1/3rd full of water with the consequence that the whole swivel housings, hubs, bearings etc... were covered in rust and needed completely replacing. The moral here seems to be to keep the gaiters well impregnated with petroleum jelly and to regularly check them for holes due to stones. If they dry out or get small holes in them then water starts to soak through and collect in the bottom. I have fitted new gaiters to the reconditioned housings but they were thoroughly rubbed with Vasalene and I shall make a point of rubbing it with more jelly every year to keep them supple and waterproof. Steve 1972 SIII LtWt 1993 D90 ------------------------------------- Name: Dr Steve Mace E-mail: steve@solwise.demon.co.uk www: http://www.demon.co.uk/solwise/ Tel: +44 1482 473899 Fax: +44 1482 472245 Date: 07/10/97 Time: 08:47:22 ------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de> Subject: Re: Leather gaiters on swivel hubs?? Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:23:34 +0200 (MET DST) Steve writes: | When I decided to redo the swivel housings I found that the gaiters were | 1/3rd full of water with the consequence that the whole swivel housings, | hubs, bearings etc... were covered in rust and needed completely replacing. Bah! Sounds ugly! | The moral here seems to be to keep the gaiters well impregnated with | petroleum jelly and to regularly check them for holes due to stones. If | they dry out or get small holes in them then water starts to soak through | and collect in the bottom. I'm not sure if we talk of the same gaitors, but the ones on Brumml are laced together at the bottom and everything fluid between the gaitor and the swivelball will quickly drip out. I realised this when I had to loosen the big bolt on top of the swivelhousing to get the brakeline off (note Brumml is a 110 and has front disk brakes). The swivel oil quickly began to seep out... Maybe the ones on your LtWt were put on upside down? | I have fitted new gaiters to the reconditioned housings but they were | thoroughly rubbed with Vasalene and I shall make a point of rubbing it | with more jelly every year to keep them supple and waterproof. Won't hurt, since they should prevent selflubrication ;-) At least Brumml is the only LR I have seen that doesn't leak at the swivels and 99% of the others had no gaitors. cu, Franz Franz Parzefall franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz _______ [____|\_\== [_-__|__|_-] Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..- ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 971007 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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