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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 08:19:04 -0700
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Reverse Gear Problems

How bout this for a SIII trans problem. Works great in all forward gears, 
but reverse gives a distinct clinking type of noise. The faster you go 
the faster the noise goes. Almost sounds like a missing tooth on a gear 
but removal of the gear oils produced no teeth or even filings. Took 
inspection plates off the top and nothing amiss. Now the whole 
transmission sits in a wheel-barrow in the garage. What next?

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:23:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Reverse Gear Problems

>From the sound of it, I'd almost suspect a contact problem between the
inside of the housing and the reverse idler gear, or a buggered reverse
idler gear bearing.

Dumb question: Are you sure the reverse shifter fork is adjusted right and
not hauling the gear back too far (like into  the casting)?

Don't scrap the tranny for it, but I'd have another loo about inside, with
an eye toward case scratches or the like. The contact doesn't have to be
enough to eat metal, just make noise.

                    aj"Speculation R Us"r

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 13:55:50 +0200
From: Kristian de Lange <u940405@studbo.hit.no>
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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 09:31:44 -0400
Subject: Re: clutch question

Seems to me your clutch linkage is misadjusted - due to the new thrust
plate, I'd imagine.

Go back and reset the slave pushrod length to where it's supposed to be -
this should alleviate your problem.

                              Alan R/Mr. Churchill

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 10:44:26 -0400
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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:22:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: gravel road screens for windshields

At 05:46 PM 10/2/97 -0400, you wrote:
>We will be driving over several thousand miles of gravel roads and it was
>guggested to get a screen to protect the windows from stones kicked up by
>passing trucks. does anyone have an idea to protect the windshield and the
 
Drop a note to Gerry Mugele <mewgull@ix.netcom.com> who had something like
that on his recent trip to Alaska and the Yukon.

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:33:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: clutch question

In a message dated 97-10-03 09:34:39 EDT, you write:

<< Seems to me your clutch linkage is misadjusted - due to the new thrust
 plate, I'd imagine.
 
 Go back and reset the slave pushrod length to where it's supposed to be -
 this should alleviate your problem. >>

Excellent advice.  I replaced an old SII clutch with a SIIa type.  Symptoms
were the same as yours.  I reset the slave cylinder push rod length back to
manual specs and voila! the problem disappeared.   BTW, once adjusted, the
clutch throw should be self adjusting for clutch lining wear.  That is, if
the point of engagement changes, look hard at the master cylinder, lines,
slave cylinder and fluid (air, leaks etc) before considering clutch plate
problems.

Nate

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 08:37:35 -0700
From: Greg Moore <gmoore@island.net>
Subject: Re: 3 liter

William L. Leacock wrote:

>  From memory the bores are the same,as are the blocks,  it is the stroke a
> that is different, the mark 3 has bigger diameter main bearings  2.625"
> whilst the mk 1 and early mark 2 had 2.25" dia.

>From memory? I'm obviously getting waaay too much aluminum in my diet
:-)

Cheers, Greg

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: Reverse Gear Problems
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:52:55 -0700

Funny that,

My transmission's sitting in my garage on a skateboard!  (used as a
dolly)

Try puttying the box in reverse and turning the input shaft by hand
while watching / listening / feeling for the source of the clicking.

Paul.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Con P. Seitl [SMTP:seitl@ns.sympatico.ca]
>Sent:	Friday, October 03, 1997 8:19 AM
>To:	lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject:	Reverse Gear Problems

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>Con Seitl
>1973 III 88 "Pig"

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:05:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott)
Subject: Re: clutch question

Thanks Nate. :)

>In a message dated 97-10-03 09:34:39 EDT, you write:
><< Seems to me your clutch linkage is misadjusted - due to the new thrust
> plate, I'd imagine.
> Go back and reset the slave pushrod length to where it's supposed to be -

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>problems.
>Nate

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:29:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: gravel road screens for windshields

If all else fails, an almost-clear window tint will help, but use the
scratch-resistant type. Thys way, if a window does break, at least it won't
fall apart.

Charles

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 97 21:00:23 UT
From: "Douglas Main, jr" <douglastmain@classic.msn.com>
Subject: Fairey OD failure  ugh!

Tony,

A little over a year ago I was out on  a jaunt in my toppless '73 88 one 
summer day when my fairey OD crapped out on me in a bad way.

At that time, my wife and I were living in a gated lake community in CT that 
had a guard house at the bottom of a steep hill that was the only road into 
the community.  When the gaurd opened the  gate to let me in I slid my foot 
off the clutch and the LR lurched forward an inch and then BLAM!!!!!!! 
zzzzzzzzzz!!!! The car started to roll backwards down the hill. I slammed on 
the brakes and thought there goes another half shaft.  I engaged 4wd high 
range (the hubs were already locked) and made another attempt at ascending the 
hill.   I slid off the clutch and just got zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and the car 
again rolled backwards!  "Holy sh*t," I exclaimed brilliantly as i rolled the 
car in to a parking spot next to the gaurd house.

In the parking spot I removed the middle seat and panel to see what was 
happening below.  I put the car back in 2wd and tried 1st (nothing) then 2nd 
(nothing), 3rd (nothing)and finally fourth (nothing).  The same results 
happened in high and low range 4wd as well.  Thats when I had my first 
suspision about the OD.  So there I was at he bottom of this hill wondering if 
I broke a lay shaft in the trans when I decided to try Reverse (in 4wd low).  
I slid off the clutch and the car moved yahoo.  So the gaurd swung the gate 
open and I procedded in reverse up the hill.  I got to the top of the steepest 
part of the hill and zzzzzzzzzzzzz.....no reverse.  That's when I discovered 
that the coupling between the OD and the Gearbox had stripped therefore no 
motion forward or reverse.

Reluctantly I towed my  LR the rest of the way to my house using my wife's 
brand new ford escort.  I had to tow because my original gear and block off 
plate were conveniently located at my parent's house in NJ (I'm in CT).  So i 
drove to NJ the following day and brought my gear and plate back and went 
overdriveless for about 6 mo while I saved for a new coupler and mainshaft for 
the OD.

Now the OD is back in my car and I now have the gear, block-off plate and 
gasket in my tool box under my drivers seat in a ziploc bag.  Lesson learned

Sincerely,

Doug Main, Newtown CT ( in my own house without a guard)
'73 88 daily driver
'66 88 SW in pieces at my parent's house (future project)
In search of a 109 SW project car near CT 
email douglastmain@msn.com

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From: JSmallals@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:21:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Reverse Gear Problems

When you figure it out, let me know, my IIA has the same problem!!!!
J.S.
Denver, Colorado
66IIA SWB SW

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From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micael_B=F6ss?=" <boss@centrum.is>
Subject: Unleaded
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 22:05:46 +0100

Hi
I think that what you are talking about, this compression ignition type
petrol engine is just what Mitsubishi is now launching as their new direct
injection engine?  Or am I wrong?  They are claiming 30% better efficiency,
cleaner exhaust and peace on earth.  They say it has taken them 30 years of
research to get it together, so it obviously wasnt easy.
Cheers
            Micael Böss
            SIII SWB Diesel 1977
            Iceland

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:30:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Thermostat

 Ian ; - My parts list gives the thermostat for a 58 to 60 as 513465, this
must have been superceded as it is not in my current price list.It then
lists 504736, bellows type for 1961 and 2 a up to suffix C, this number too
has been superceded. My 1981 parts list says no longer serviced. If in
difficulty you can use the thermostat housing from the later 2 a and use the
later thermostat.
Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 21:22:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Thermostat

Re: Old thermostat types:

Another trick, one I don't particularly applaud but which i've been told
works, is to put a blanking plate in the gasket space between the water
bypass and the thermostat housing. The blanking plate is drilled with a
5/16" hole, restricting the bypass flow. This makes the engine heat a bit
quicker and more important, allows the use of a standard American-style
thermostat that doesn't have the skirt to block the bypass when open.

It is not a good fix, but can get you by in the case of an unobtainium part
like the old alcohol thermostats. This way, the bypass doesn't cut off too
much of the radiator's flow and you can still get something resembling heat
in the winter.....

                    ajr

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 21:40:34 -0400
From: Dean Meyer <Dean.Meyer@internord.net>
Subject: Re: Reverse Gear Problems

Con,

It must be Nigel's disease. I drained the oil from Kinabalu's transmission
and lo and behold 32 tiny gear teeth fell out. Lot's of fine brass bits too.
Can't get the big pieces thru the hole. Didn't want to tell anyone just in
case Nigel struck. Guess I was too late. Sorry. Wanna swap bitz?

Dean Meyer

1964 Morris Mini Minor Traveller "Wanna see my woody?" - (needs a good wax
job)
1966 Austin-Healey 3000 MK III "The moneypit from Vegas" - (preparing to be
sealed in an Andy Warhol time capsule and buried in the yard)
1967 Austin-Healey Sprite MK III "The big block" - (95 BHP Swiftune Sports
Tourer on the way from Longs Corner Farm!)
1974 Land Rover Series III 88" "Kinabalu" - (the Tin Man - has no heart)

Con P. Seitl wrote:

> How bout this for a SIII trans problem. Works great in all forward gears,
> but reverse gives a distinct clinking type of noise. The faster you go
> the faster the noise goes. Almost sounds like a missing tooth on a gear
> but removal of the gear oils produced no teeth or even filings. Took
> inspection plates off the top and nothing amiss. Now the whole
> transmission sits in a wheel-barrow in the garage. What next?
> Con Seitl
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)]
> Con Seitl
> 1973 III 88 "Pig"

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 04:37:43 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@math.earlham.edu>
Subject: thanks for hub nut removal advise.

I apoligize for the delay.   I have been away from the net.  I have not
yet had a chance to remove the blasted thing, so it may kill me yet.

Davdi

--------
David_Scheidt@math.earlham.edu

yip yip yip yap yap yak yap yip *BANG*  -- no terrier

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 02:13:54 -0800
From: Bren Workman <bworkman@alaska.net>
Subject: Hello

Cheers to all.  I've been away fighting bad guys in Louisiana for 
awhile and it's nice to be back.
1) It's snowing tonight in beautiful Fairbanks
2) Is the owner of a lightweight in Anchorage on this list?  Adrian 
Redmond is supposed to visit soon and his e-mail keeps bouncing back at 
me.
  Other than that, both Rovers are running well (enter demons).  I just 
installed a CD in the wagon and I go for speakers and a center cubby 
between the D90 seats tommorrow.  Later, Bren.
Bren Workman
Ft. Wainwright, AK
<bworkman@alaska.net>
'72 88"  "Tilly"
'65 109" SW  "Baldwin"

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