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From: "Ron Beckett" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Subject: Fuse blocks and extra wiring.
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 20:47:23 +1000

I was at a local speed shop today in Sydney (Australia) and I picked up a
brochure from a US company called Painless Wiring.

If you are into putting in more switches and fuse blocks etc, check them
out.
Their stuff might be pricey but for NAS readers, it could be worthwhile.

Painless Wiring
9505 Santa Paula Drive
Fort Worth Tx
tel 1800 423-9696

http://www.painlesswiring.com
email: painless@airmail.net

Usual disclaimers

Regards,

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, NSW, Australia

'86 Range Rover 4.6L auto (The Last Aquila)
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 1725cc manual
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc auto
'67 Hillman Gazelle 1725cc manual

check my home page at 
http://www.users.bigpond.com/hillman for Hillman and Rover

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 07:34:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Goming apart at the seams

In a message dated 97-09-17 22:28:12 EDT, you write:

<< t the very great risk of unleashing "Nigel's Disease" upon the assembled 
 masses, I'd like to know what happened.  I've only seen one 2.25 physically 
 break, and that's when my brother's '66 88 suffered a collapsed valve spring

 and it ate a valve.   >>

On the engine I'm presently rebuilding, the exhaust valve on cylinder 4 was
driven through the piston (found it in the oil pan) and froze the engine with
piston 4 jammed in the cylinder, hole through the top and the side of the
piston cracked.  Amazingly, the conrods and crank are fine.   (Block is too!)

Nate

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 8:44:04 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: Glowplugs

You may have the glow plug wire on the wrong terminal of the switch. The 
plugs come on when the switch is at position 1.  If this is not 
happening, recheck all connections and ground. I hope you have the 
correct wiring diagram at hand.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:49:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Series vehicles and torque wrenches.

In a message dated 97-09-18 08:31:08 EDT, you write:

<< So I wondered:  what do you people use out there?  Do you always torque
 even things like, uhm, hub nuts and every little thing?  What range do I
 really need in a decent torque wrench?  (And please tell me that one is
 enough.) >>

Can't speak for others but I only torque engine and transmission components
and steering components (drop arm nut and nuts that hold the steering box).
 I'm less worried about hub nuts and prop shaft nuts.

Nate

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:56:31 -0400
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Still no idle, but...

LT J Jackson wrote:

> <SNIP>
> After that, I'll be looking for a virgin, or at least a virgin chicken, to
> sacrifice to whatever
> gods I have displeased...<SNIP>

what ever you do don't mention sacrificing or cooking cats on your manifold...
Mmmm

--
end
Mike Johnson
johnsonm@borg.com
http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 03:09:02 +0100
From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
Subject: Re: Series vehicles and torque wrenches.

Mike,

> Speaking personally,I only torque the cyl head,big end and main
> caps.At least I have  up until now,over ten years.The rest is done
> on the basis of"Tight's tight,but too tight is bloody ridiculous".

what about injectors?  I worry about mine constantly.  They have to be
torqued at 8-10Nm according to the manual and I figured that this is
important, because if you make the one side a little tighter than the
other, it might leak.  Or am I over-paranoid?

- Iwan Vosloo
( 1975 SIII 88" Diesel )

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From: "Stevens, Chris" <Chris_Stevens@dc.sba.com>
Subject:  Re: Series Vehicles and Torque Wrenches
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:21:44 -0400

Buy two torque wrenches---one for the big stuff; one for the smaller
poundage torques. I managed to break four hub bolts using an expensive
Craftsman torque wrench.

Chris Stevens
Towson, MD  USA

1969 Series IIa 88" SW 

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:35:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: British Invasion

OK who is going to the British Invasion in Stowe?
I am still undecided about going.
It is a loooong drive in the 80 :-)
Rgds Quintin

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From: "Jon Dunster, Computer Systems Manager" <jond@inetgw.chichester.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:56:22 GMT
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

I keep getting a problem where the coolant overflow tank on my '90 
appears to overflow.  After the last time I left it and although the 
overflow tank is empty (should it be?) and there are sizzling sounds 
from under the bonnet the temperature does not rise above normal.

Can anyone suggest why this might be ?

Cheers

Jon

--------------------------------------------------------
 Jon Dunster
 jond@chichester.ac.uk
 http://www.chichester.ac.uk/~jond
 -------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:19:42 -0700
From: Jeremy John Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Rocker Shaft Blues

David Cockey wrote:
snip
> Try PA Blanchard in England.

tel 01430 872765
fax 01430 872777

cheers,

Jeremy

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:21:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: New Solihull Society Website

Jambo Bwana:

The Solihull Society, a Colorado Land Rover Cuub, is pleased to anounce that
our new website is up and working.  The URL is:

www.solihullsociety.org

Hiya Safari,

Paul Donohue
Secretary, Solihull Society
1965 Land Rover Dormobile

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:45:43 -0400
From: reynoldsg@tfn.com (Geoffrey Reynolds)
Subject: Re: Belated thanks... and Boston Get Together

: I also wanted to get some clarification from the Boston area list
: members... What's the word on another get together in October? 
: Though I didn't attend the last one, I'd definitely try to be be at 
: the next one, and wouldn't mind seeing it turn into a monthly thing.

Several people have expressed an interest in making this a monthly 
thing, and October 8th has been suggested as the next date (second 
Wednesday of the month).  I say let's go for it.

John Harvard's Brew House on October 8th, 7:30 PM.  First person there 
should make a seating reservation under BSROA so that it will be 
easier for late arrivers to find the group.  Based on our last visit 
there, I suggest we park in the main mall parking lot and enter John 
Harvard's through the back entrance.  If anyone would like to meet 
earlier, post a message letting the others know when you'll arrive.

All Land Rover enthusiasts are welcome.

Jeff Reynolds
1995 Beluga Black Discovery
Rovers North Roof Rack
4 Hella Rallye 4000's
1 Hella Work Lamp

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:51:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Steve Fullwood <ansdf@ttacs1.ttu.edu>
Subject: Thank you

Thank you for all the suggestions on the problems with my starter motor.
You guys are really knowledgeable.  Being a young Series rover owner in a
sea of J**ps is hard in Texas. Everybody asks in the strongest King of the
Hill (fill in TX accent if you dont have access to US TV) accent "Whatha
Hell is that. Isat one them Marlon Perkins trucks.  Betcha cant pull a 30 ft
cattle trailer you little whippersnapper".  You see the environment I forced
to deal with.  No one, I mean no one can ever answer my Questions.   I find
almost everything ya'll (thats TX slang) very informative.  Thanks once
again.  Steve

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 19:03:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Mid-Atlantic Land Rover Rally

OK, gang, one last time: the Mid-Atlantic Rally, the largest gathering of 
the faithful on the continent this year, is two weeks away - October 3-5.  
>Rover owners are the most independent sorts on the planet and *rarely* plan 
things ahead of time...which makes planning an event of this sort a bloody 
nightmare.  But we need to know if you're coming, and if you want to get 
fed, you gotta' send in some bucks.

The site is Penlan Farm in Buckingham County, VA, situated 2 miles west of 
US RT 15 on county route 671.  The 671 turn off is about 7 miles south of 
the US Rt 15 bridge over the James River.

Each event has a theme and honors a particular vehicle.  This year, it is 
"Elegance in the Rough" and features the Range Rover.  For Saturday night, 
there will be a 'creative black tie' affair under the big top: appetizers 
(bacon wrapped scallops, puff pastries, chicken kabobs, seafood stuffed 
mushrooms) followed by your choice of grilled ribeye steak or salmon.  A 
jazz band provides accompaniment.  We will be serving up three kegs from 
Legend (a micro in Richmond): porter, brown ale and an IPA.

Because the site is so remote, we need to now how many mouths were are going 
to feed PDQ.  Please fill out the following form and snail mail it back with 
you cheque ASAP *like YESTERDAY*.  All returns *must* be postmarked prior to 
Sept 24th.  I need to let the caterer know a head count.

Name____________________________________  Vehicle _________   Year ______

Address ________________________________     Phone Number _______________

City ____________________________    State ________   ZIP _______________

E-Mail __________________________

        I/we will be camping on site  Y  N

        I/we will make reservations at a motel/inn  Y  N

        I would like to compete in the Aluminium Man Triathlon  Y  N

        I will volunteer to be a trials course marshall  Y  N

                REGISTRATION FEE ($15/vehicle)          $______

                SATURDAY BANQUET ($20/person)           $______
                choose: ____ steak  ____ salmon

                SUNDAY BRUNCH, $12/person X ___ persons $______

                I've forgotten my ROAV dues, so here's
                  another $15                           $______

                And if I've done the math right....     $______ total

Please make the cheques payable to ROAV...and yes, if you are willing to 
drive down from Canada, we'll take the northern peso at par.

However, uninvited guests sometimes drop by.  Last year, Hurrican Fran 
showed up two weeks before and another visited Tuesday after the rally.  In 
the event of pending *catastrophic* weather call 757-423-4898 or the rally 
site 804-581-1331 or E-mail to lr88@aol.com.

If you simply must have a roof over your head, here are a few phone numbers:

Buckingham Lodge, a corporate retreat-type of place on the James River with 
        rooms from about $65. 804-286-2100.
Fork Union Motel.  Fork Union's finest (also: only) from $48. 804-842-3255.
Palmer Country Manor.  B&B about 30 min away; from $120. 800-253-4306.
Tranquility Farm 20 miles south. $55. 804-392-4456.
High Meadows Vineyard. Historic register B&B in Scottsville with
        antique-stuffed rooms from about $100. 804-286-2218.

We hope to see you there.  Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 97 18:50:28 PDT
From: Garrick Brett Olsen <gbolsen@allina.com>
Subject: snow

Thanks for all of the tips-- especially on hard/soft tops on 
88"/109"

However, I did not read enough of an argument on 190 vs.88 in 
the snow!!  If you have experience in both I would appreciate 
an opinion.   You see, snow is my only rationalization for 
buying a Land Rover.  The reality is that I just really WANT 
one.

If you have no snow experience, I might expect mud to be 
similar.

What do you say?

Thanks,
Garrick
-------------------------------------
Name: Garrick Brett Olsen
E-mail: Garrick Brett Olsen <gbolsen@allina.com>
Date: 9/18/97
Time: 6:50:28 PM

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From: SFmms@aol.com
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:58:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Leak at Base of Carb

I have a '74 Series III 88 with 107K miles on it's original (I think) 2.25l
engine that has been developing an oil leak (doesn't smell like gasoline) in
a place that I have not seen mentioned. It is seeping out of the gasket at
the base of the Zenith carb where it connects to the intake manifold. I have
checked and cleaned the PCV valve (sorry, "crankcase breather valve") and
wire mesh trap on the head cover.The carb was rebuilt about 6 months ago.The
engine does need new valve guides and it looks like there is a small oil leak
starting at the front of the head gasket and rear seal, so I do plan on
getting it rebuilt, but need to keep the lump functioning for another few
months to save up the $. Any ideas about the carb leak ?

Regards,

Karen Sindir
'74 SIII 88 "Red Rufy"
'95 Disco "EFE"

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From: lHandJP@webtv.net (J. W. Pendleton)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:50:32 -0500
Subject: electic cooling fan, old discussion

I think it was Jan who came close to the answer for electic vs.
standard.  The air/water cooling function of the fan needs to be in
motion consantly to be effective in preventing heat soak.  As in Air
Cooled / Water Cooled motor, Rovers redesign of the Otto cycle.
Submitted in jest.

Jim Pendleton
Keeping cool constantly

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