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1 "Spencer K. C. Norcross"34Re: GPS recommendations
2 lHandJP@webtv.net (J. W.13wanted engine
3 Ray Harder [ccray@showme13Re: wanted engine
4 Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com25Replacement Gas Tank (Almost) Available
5 Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun 26[not specified]
6 Adrian Redmond [channel640Replacement fuel tanks
7 Michael R Fredette [mfre37Re: Replacement fuel tanks
8 SPYDERS@aol.com 30Re: Replacement fuel tanks
9 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o23Re[3]: Need help with cooling system!!!
10 kelliott@INTRANET.CA (Ke22Re: Speaking of vacuum advance.
11 "Richard A. Nicotra" [ni16volvo overdrive on ser III
12 John Putnam [JPutnam@whp26RE: GPS recommendations
13 MRogers315@aol.com 14re.Gas Tank Repairing
14 "David M. Schwarz" [dsch26Re: GPS
15 "KMCO" [KMCO@KEAR.TDS.NE19oil filters (again)
16 Daryl Webb [dwebb@waite.25Tropical roof for Defender ???
17 Mike Loiodice [landrvr@t22Looking for parts


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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 08:15:11 -0500
From: "Spencer K. C. Norcross" <spencern@acr.org>
Subject: Re:  GPS recommendations 

Earlier this summer I purchased a Garmin 12XL, which i like very much
even if i dont really know how to use it (yet) as i learned in the
Rapidan last month :-0

I would recomend the Garmin highly, either the II+ or the 12XL (Alex is
right- spend the money for a 12 satelite model) mine had no trouble
keeping a fix in a moving land rover under heavy tree cover (using an
external antenna)
i cant remember what made me purchase the 12XL over the II+, they were
the same price, but the 12XL had a feature that the II+ didnt

I especially recomend the garmins if you are a mac user, cables to
connect your mac to a garmin are much more easily made or purchased than
for other GPS brands. I also purchased moving map software called GPSy
thats pretty cool. the last handy item i got was a ruler/scale for
determining exact lon/lat on topo maps to match the exact lat/lon on
that little screen in your hands. 

-- 
rgds,
spenny
Arlington, VA

1969 SWB, The Wayback Machine
1965 Ex-MOD LWB, Gromit <- Just add bolts  :-0
Land Rover - 4WD of choice for the Information Superhighway

Q. Why do they call it a kilt?
A. Because a lot of people got kilt when they called it a skirt.

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From: lHandJP@webtv.net (J. W. Pendleton)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:40:47 -0500
Subject: wanted engine

I am looking for a Rover P5 and/or motor (straight six 3.0) to replace a
2.6 on a 109 NAS.  The 109 motor has a hole in the block from an
offending rod.  Please email me direct with any suitable items or leads.
Thanks in advance.

JIm Pendleton
So many vehicles, so little time

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:24:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ray Harder <ccray@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: wanted engine

On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, J. W. Pendleton wrote:
> Subject: wanted engine
   jim, can't help you on the engine, but can you
get me connected to that guy with the series 88 rear tub.
i was going to call you again, but saw this post and thought i
would save a couple of nickles...

Ray Harder -- sii88 (lulu, aka experimental)

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From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 09:57:52 -0400
Subject: Replacement Gas Tank (Almost) Available

At least one of you mentioned the soon-need for a 109 (?) tank.  I'm about
to go the spendy tank overhaul route on my original 109SW tank, which has a
seeping leak uncorrected by the epoxy method.  This will make surplus my
new (well, used it for 1 year) replacement tank that I bought from
Craddocks and immediately had sandblasted and professionally painted before
installing.  The right offer might convince me not to retain the new tank,
which will otherwise go on the surplus 109SW frame and bulkhead I also have
(the start of another L-R!).

Incidentally, my experience in the last few years is that shipping largish
items UK to US, even "cheapest way," is expensive, often doubling the total
cost of the item.  I have gotten a pair of heated windshield panels, the
109SW gas tank, a pair of SW middle doors, and some other lesser bits, and
have been shocked at the shipping costs.  Anything that isn't relatively
light and can't go "small packet" will travel dearly.

Hank
1960 Long SW
1997 Short SW

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Subject: Re: 1 ton gearbox
From: Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun <ketilk@a.sol.no>
Date: 04 Sep 1997 16:40:24 +0200

"John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk> writes:

| Hi, I am writing this on behalf of a internetless friend in Dominica. 

| He needs a better condition gearbox for his 6 cyl 1 ton SIII.
| The alternative, as he runs 750s, would be to put the standard 
| gearbox in. Are all the differences internal? I mean will the 
| standard box just bolt onto engine, chassis and props with no 
| modification?

Yes, it will - no problems whatsoever. Just remember that the 6cyl
has a different bellhousing, no 4cyl gearbox will fit without swapping
the bellhousing.

This is certainly the most sensible idea - the 1ton
gearbox is not fun with 7.50s - I used to have one myself, but was 
luckily able to swap it for a normal gearbox. The gearing in the
1ton gearbox is on the order of 1.3-1.4 times lower than the standard..

-- 
---Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun 1979 109" 21/4 Petrol SW - "Lillebil"

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 18:01:10 +0200
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Replacement fuel tanks
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Every time i embark on renovating a SIII fuel tank, I can't help
wondering if anyone is making an aftermarket PLASTIC tank for the SIII's
- today all agricultural vehicles seem to have these and they seem very
hard and durable (High Denisty PolyEthylene?). They don't leek, they
dont dent, they can be cleaned, and they last a long while - my bet is
that they endure shock just as well as a tin box.

Here in Denmark there is a flourishing plastics industry which produces
all sorts of things like dustbins, tanks, even headlight shells for
series III front headlights in recycled plastic - I have just installed
the plastic headlight shell in my new (1972) SIII 88" and I'm glad to
see the back of the rusting solihull tin-helmet version, which i have
changed so many times over the years - the new ones are cheaper and last
longer.

So why not tanks - every other manufacturer seems to be going this
route?
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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From: Michael R Fredette <mfredett@ptdcs2.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Replacement fuel tanks
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 09:01:17 -0700 (PDT)

 
 Every time i embark on renovating a SIII fuel tank, I can't help
 wondering if anyone is making an aftermarket PLASTIC tank for the SIII's
 - today all agricultural vehicles seem to have these and they seem very
 hard and durable (High Denisty PolyEthylene?). They don't leek, they
 dont dent, they can be cleaned, and they last a long while - my bet is
 that they endure shock just as well as a tin box.
 
 Here in Denmark there is a flourishing plastics industry which produces
 all sorts of things like dustbins, tanks, even headlight shells for
 series III front headlights in recycled plastic - I have just installed
 the plastic headlight shell in my new (1972) SIII 88" and I'm glad to
 see the back of the rusting solihull tin-helmet version, which i have
 changed so many times over the years - the new ones are cheaper and last
 longer.
 
 So why not tanks - every other manufacturer seems to be going this
 route?
 -- 
 Adrian Redmond
 
************************************
Adrian,

     The tank on my 94 D90 is plastic.

     Rgds
     Mike Fredette
     94 D90
     101FC
     Portland, Or.

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:07:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re:  Replacement fuel tanks

In a message dated 9/4/97 11:53:24 PM, you wrote:

>Every time i embark on renovating a SIII fuel tank, I can't help
>wondering if anyone is making an aftermarket PLASTIC tank for the SIII's
>- today all agricultural vehicles seem to have these and they seem very
>hard and durable
[yadda,yadda,yadda....]
>So why not tanks - every other manufacturer seems to be going this
>route?

I think the answer to your question lies within itself: agricultural
vehicles. They aren't usually certified for road use, motorway use, etc. and
crash tested.

I've got a dirt-bike with a plastic tank and once wondered the same thing. I
noticed that the full-dirt versions had plastic tanks and the road/dirt
version of the same bike had metal tank as well as turn signals, etc. (for
those who know or care: compare the Honda XR250R & XR250L)

I guess the answer is in the road certification. But I do agree that plastic
tanks can be used. (Apparently Iraq used them during the Gulf War)

pat
93  110

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 10:28:20 EST
Subject: Re[3]: Need help with cooling system!!!

>Why have landrover engines to be covered with oil.  Mine is shining green all 
>year round.  It only leakes slowly from the sump and after crank seal.

Hey! this is the Land Rover list here, pal! 
None of this talk about shining engines. 
We pour oil on the outside if it doesn't leak enough. Actually the engine 
doesn't leak too much when everything is done right, but every time I do 
something like re-use a valve cover gasket for the umpteenth time I get nice 
globs of oil everywhere. Combine that with the regular "weeping" plus the mud 
and road scum and you end up with quite a horrendous mess. Nowhere near the 3/8"
thick layer of sludge that I scraped off last year when the engine was out.
So where is your mud?

Huh?

later
DaveB.

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 09:54:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: kelliott@INTRANET.CA (Keith Elliott)
Subject: Re: Speaking of vacuum advance.

Hi Paul

   That metal pipe should go to the carb, my 61 has the same set-up.

Keith
'61 SII 88

>Speaking of vacuum advance, I have a 1961 Series II SWB with a Solex 
>Carb, and as far as I can tell, the vacuum advance has been 
>disconnected for years.  The pipe coming off of the distributor 
>diaphragm is metal and has been pinched shut.  There is a similar 
>metal pipe coming out of the bottom of the carb.  Is this where the 
>dist. pipe should lead to?  Or should it go directly to the intake 

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>1961 Series II 88
>Victoria, BC  Canada

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 10:21:04 -0400
From: "Richard A. Nicotra" <nicotra@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: volvo overdrive on ser III

I have a 1973 ser III '88 with no overdrive and a scrap 1983 Volvo
turbo with a good overdrive.  I was going through some old lro e-mails
last weekend and read several that mentioned use of overdrives from
other vehicles with a shortened prop shaft.  

Has anyone tried this before?  If so, will I need an adapter plate for
the Volvo OD?  What length will the prop shaft have to be?

thanks,

Rick Nicotra

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From: John Putnam <JPutnam@whpacific.com>
Subject: RE: GPS recommendations 
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:44:18 -0700

Some GPS give coordinates in a variety of systems including UTM, State
Plane, and even Thomas Guide coordinates ( Thomas guide is a map book
published for cities across North America ).

John Putnam
Forest Grove, OR

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Steve Mace [SMTP:steve@solwise.demon.co.uk]
> Sent:	Thursday, September 04, 1997 2:14 AM
> To:	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject:	Re: GPS recommendations
>
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> excellent piece of PC software with full UK street maps and built in
> navigation. Of course you also need a laptop PC in the vehicle but =
you
> can pick those up for only a few hundred quid now.
> -------------------------------------
>

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 15:01:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: re.Gas Tank Repairing

I have used a product called "tank slop" with exelent results. It is
availiable in the UK from classic car specialists. You must remove the tank
then pour this stuff in and roll the tank around so it slops around and
covers the interior, let it dry and hey presto no more leaks or rust
contamination.

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover Hybrid (yes the one with yellow wheels)

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 21:55:05 -0400
From: "David M. Schwarz" <dschwarz@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: GPS

I have a Garmin 12XL with a Lowe magnetically mounted amplified antenna
which I connect to a laptop.  Trees don't bother this combination.  This
model Garmin costs from U.S.$229 TO $249.  The antenna is supplied by Lowe
electronics in the U.K.  I purchased it via E-mail and credit card and it
came to my office in New York City within a day or two.  
While in a vehicle, we are never lost.  There are some great moving map
programs available such as "Fugawi" which interface with the GPS.  I've
used this program with the digital raster graphics maps published by the
U.S. Government Geodetic Survey which are pictures of the seven and a half
minute (of latitude) maps made by the U.S.Geodetic Survey.  These are on a
1 to 24,000 scale and can show individual buildings.  All topographical
features including elevations are shown.  These maps are great on and off
the road.  The program allows you to scan in a map and give the coordinates
of any three points on the map on your screen.  

Programs such as StreetAtlas and Map'n'go by DeLorme interface with the GPS
also.  The CD which contains StreetAtlas, which is a vector map contains
every street in the United States. You can ask it to find a particular
address, telephone exchange number and zip code. You could navigate across
the U.S. with a person in the passenger seat under a hood telling you where
to turn.  

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From: "KMCO" <KMCO@KEAR.TDS.NET>
Subject: oil filters (again)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:24:50 -0400

I apologize for bringing this up again, but, a couple of weeks ago, during
a lengthy discussion on the relative merits of the old cartridge filters
vs. a "spin on", several people mentioned the name of  a Canadian company
that manufactures the spin on adapters.   I believe that a representative
of this co. was at the Atlantic British Meet.  Anyway, I've lost the name
and location of the company, can anyone help me out?  Thanks

Neal Dion                         
New London, NH                          
Series III      88"   Daily  Transport
           IIa     109"   Pick Up  ( Work in Progress )
           IIa      109"  SW  ( Long Term Proj )
           IIa       88"    SW  ( Very Long Term Proj )

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From: Daryl Webb <dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Tropical roof for Defender ???
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:59:55 +0930 (CST)

Sorry for the cross posting guys but...

1. Does anyone know if it is possible to get a tropical roof for the 
current model defenders  (or if its possible to *easily* adapt an older 
model Tropical roof to fit)  ?

2. I regularly walk around on the (tropical) roof of my stage 1 (and I'm
well over the 80kg load limit :-( Does anyone know if its still safe to
walk around on the roof of the current generation defenders?

Just some trivial bits I've been pondering over.

I guess reply to me directly, as I'm only on the OZ lro list these days :-(

A special "HI" to any of the "old timers" who still remember me :-)

 -- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 06:34:42 -0400
From: Mike Loiodice <landrvr@telenet.net>
Subject: Looking for parts

Howdy all..

I'm looking for a rear liftgate (frame and glass) to fit an '87 Range
Rover. Prefer a used one without rust! (Have a rusty one)

If anyone has an extra lying about that you like to part with, please
contact me at
landrvr@telenet.net as I no longer subscribe to the mailing lists...

Cheers

Mike Loiodice
166 W. Fulton St.               1965 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Faded Green     
Gloversville                    1972 SerIII 88 Petrol - Fern Camo
NY  12078  (USA)        7       1971 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Red and Blue
                     #:-}>      1964 Triumph Spitfire - BRG
//wyattweb.com/freepage/l/landrvr@blacdisc.com/home.shtml">http://wyattweb.com/freepage/l/landrvr@blacdisc.com/home.shtml

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