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msg	Sender	lines	Subject
1	NADdMD@aol.com	14	Re: Help me, please!
2	NADdMD@aol.com	28	Exhaust stud question
3	Christian Neuhaus Wiese	11	Re: DISCOVERY / DIFFERENTIAL LOCK.
4	JSmallals@aol.com	14	Re: Wheel Cylinders and more
5	"Brian Cotton (bcotton@p	53	Beware of a Nasty virus !
6	g@ix.netcom.com (Gerald)	18	Don't Worry about Re: Beware of a Nasty virus !
7	twakeman@scruznet.com (T	27	Re: brake line routing
8	James Curtis [staff@stjo	57	Re: Help me, please!
9	James Curtis [staff@stjo	40	Re: Rear Propshaft Flange
10	James Curtis [staff@stjo	37	Re: Locking Hubs on Rear
11	marsden@digicon-egr.co.u	29	Re: Rear Propshaft Flange
12	Ralph.Pyne@pscmail.ps.ne	32	Re: Stupid hoax. Beware of a Nasty virus !
13	James Curtis [staff@stjo	76	HOAX -Re: Beware of a Nasty virus !
14	Autoconv@aol.com	16	Re: DISCOVERY / DIFFERENTIAL LOCK.
15	Autoconv@aol.com	10	Re: Stronger axles on SWB?

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 08:39:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Help me, please!

Rasko,

I'd put a thermometer into the radiator and actually measure the temp when
the the needle goes up.  On my Rover, a 5 -10 F (2-5 C) increase in temp will
move the needle from the "N" of normal to the bottom edge of the red.  Now
that I know, I don't worry about it.

Nate

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 08:48:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Exhaust stud question

Hi all,

After the shakedown run with the Brick's new clutch, I could hear a rattle
when coming to a stop or going down hill with compression braking.  (Also,
the rover seemed a bit louder than usual).

Climbing around underneath, I found that one of the exhaust studs was loose.
The outermost stud was loose because the ring on the exhaust manifold was
cracked to the outer edge--probably happened when they took out the
transmission and moved the engine enough to reef against the exhaust.

It had been helicoiled previously and hence was oversized.  After getting the
stud (and helicoil) out I used a piece of all-thread the same diameter as the
stud with nuts and lock washers on both sides.

Now the question, I realize the all-thread won't last like an exhaust stud
would but other than that, am I going to run into trouble with this bodge
job?  I'll do the job right when the exhaust manifold starts leaking.

Thanks

Nate

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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 07:58:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christian Neuhaus Wiese <chnw@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
Subject: Re: DISCOVERY / DIFFERENTIAL LOCK.

At 09:11 PM 08/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
>URL: http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
>To David Ashcroft : 
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 26 lines)]
>>Regards
>>David Ashcroft

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From: JSmallals@aol.com
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 14:23:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Wheel Cylinders and more

Just to let you know, I recently replaced mine, but had to cut them off with
a cutting tool.  The shafts were so rusted, I could not budge them.  The
tool, a small hacksaw, had all four off within minutes.

good luck

James Small
66IIA SWB "Emmett"

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From: "Brian Cotton (bcotton@pta.lia.net)" <Brian.Cotton@liapta.pta.lia.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 20:29:01 +0000
Subject: Beware of a Nasty virus !

I was sent the following information, and I want to pass it along.

IMPORTANT!!!!

It is essential that this problem be reconciled as soon as possible. A
few hours ago, Someone opened an E-mail that had the subject heading
of ao4free.com.  Within seconds of opening it, a window appeared and
began to display all files that were being deleted.  The user
immediately shut down the computer,  but it was too late.

This virus wiped all out. It ate the  Anti-Virus Software that comes
with the Windows '95 Program along with  F-Prot AVS.  Neither was able
to detect it. ----------------------------

This information was received this morning from IBM, please share it
with anyone that might access the Internet:

If anyone receives e-mail entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" please delete
it WITHOUT READING IT!!  This is a warning for all Internet users
there is a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through an
e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!"

DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GRETINGS"!! This message
appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in >a
penpal, but by the time you read the letter, it is too late. The 
"trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector of
your hard drive, destroying all of the data present.  It is a
self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will
AUTOMATICALLY!!!!!     forward itself to anyone whose e-mail address
is present in YOUR mailbox!

This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to
DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your IN BOX, and
whose mail is in their in box and so on.  If this virus keeps getting
passed, it has the potential to do a great deal of damage to computer
networks worldwide!!!!

Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" AS SOON AS    
 YOU SEE IT! Pass this message along to all of your friends and other
readers of the newsgroups and mailing lists which you are on so that
they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!!

Please pass this along to everyone you know so this can be stopped.

Brian Cotton
South Africa
(Sorry about the band width)

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From: g@ix.netcom.com (Gerald)
Subject: Don't Worry about Re: Beware of a Nasty virus !
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:08:54 GMT

This is an email virus. It reproduces by having people send it to more
people. It wastes time by having people read it and then worry and
then call someone for help. This is an Urban Legend. See
http://www.virusbtn.com/aol4free.html among other places for
information on the hoax.

Attachments to email can be dangerous, but reading email is generally
not.

--
Gerald
g@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 17:06:31 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: brake line routing

At  6:35 PM 8/8/97 -0500, Wesley Harris wrote:

;I'm running my new brake lines and am not sure of the correct placement of
>one. Specifically, the long line that runs from the rear flex line to the
>front junction
;
The line mounts on top of the right frame member running the length of the
car at the centre.  There should be small sheet metal screws and cressent
shaped metal clamps that clamp the brake line tightly to the frame.  If you
can not find them, purchase some with some screws and install them.  If the
brake line vibrates, it WILL fatigue and crack leaving you without brakes.
You should have a 4 way brass fitting on top of the frame just in front of
the bulkhead.

Since you have everything off, you might consider upgrading your system to
power dual brakes.  I did it on my 109 and the brakes work better.

TeriAnn Wakeman            For personal mail, please start subject line
Santa Cruz California      with TW.  I belong to 4 high volume mail lists
twakeman@scruznet.com      and do not read a lot of threads..Thanks

"The box said 'Requires Windows 95, or better.' So I bought a Macintosh."

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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:30:19 +0100
From: James Curtis <staff@stjohnsba.rmplc.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Help me, please!

At 03:58 10/08/97 +0200, you wrote:

>Dear sirs from Rover,
>I am Rastko Radovanovic from Belgrade YU. Igmanska st.11. You are my
>last chance to slove the problem.I have performed over haul renovation
>of engine on my Land Rover series IIA from 1968 eng. nd. 5334662,

>After complete refitting engine started easily and runned smoothly and
>evenly. However, engine started to overheat while idling and at slow
>run.
Timing,radiator,water ways and water pump,hoses,carburater and so
on,were checked and rechecked.All anclinary components and radiator
water pump... were borrowed from car that operates normaly and placed on
my car,instead of my components but no improvement reached.

Fuel pump (ac type F) is new, exhaust silencer is new but from Iveco
program for small trucks. This one is for 2800ccm diesel engine. Fan is
oriented properly.

When looking through the radiator filler whole a vivid stream of water
can be observed. My conclusion is that water pump works. I have
contacted several people and serviceman from former and current B.L.
dealers here in Belgrade, but they found no mistake.
Since it is a practically new engine, I runned it slowly. But in couple
of times i runned it faster on short hill (1 mile) and I observed that
temperature slightly dropped. Engine had about 3 hrs. of working time
and 20-25 miles. Consumption of fuel is about 12-13 litres per 100km. No
loses of power were detected except when temperature rises. I never
allowed temperature to rise high enough for indicator needle to enter
red zone.
>After complete refitting engine started easily and runned smoothly and
I am greatful for Your understanding and You time. 
>After complete refitting engine started easily and runned smoothly and

This may not be all that much use but I have come accross two LRs (both
SerII) both with very Non Standard Radiators... One is so big I have to use
a muff in Summer  (this is the British Summer though!)The other was an ex
military beastie which some Squaddie had obviously been carrying out
"improvements" to...  The radiator was smaller and thinner than the standard
for that engine and the coweling  (AN ESSENTIAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT) had
found it's way onto somone else's car as it was nowhere to be seen on mine!

It may not be this at all...  Interesting though that the temp did fall when
you managed to get more air through (ie faster speed)

Hope this is of help..

If not I hope it was a vaguely interesting read!

James Curtis  (Newcastle UK)

E mail JamesCurtis@Technologist.com

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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:38:23 +0100
From: James Curtis <staff@stjohnsba.rmplc.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Rear Propshaft Flange

At 08:36 06/08/97 BST, you wrote:
 Dear all, here's a question to the Series specialists:
>> Today I finally managed to get my rear propshaft off the 107". The 
>	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 14 lines)]
>> but loose studs would really worry me.
>> Best regards and sorry about the cross-posting

Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing, or maybe SIII propshafts are different,
but I had 4 bolts with 4 nuts. As simple as that - nothing captive, or
"studded". My 8 bolts came off with no problem. Fiddly - an hour to do 8
bolts! but they came off. 
I would have thought the SII would be the same as the SIII, so perhaps a late
107" would be the same?
Stating the obvious, but new bolts with a dab of copper slip make it easier
next time...

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

REPLY:

Just an idea are you referring to the Captive bolts held under the hand
brake drum?
These are not in fact lose they just sit with their hexagonal heads ajacent
to the output flange to help you do up the nuts on the other end..

They can be replaced by removing the six bolts securing the handbrake drum
and removing the drum itself..  (in Haynes terms "simply remove handbrake
drum!")

I hope this is of help...
My reference for this data is a LWB 109 SerII  I hope this is the same..

James Curtis (Newcastle UK)

E mail JamesCurtis@Technologist.Com

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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:45:03 +0100
From: James Curtis <staff@stjohnsba.rmplc.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Locking Hubs on Rear

At 16:45 05/08/97 BST, you wrote:

>> >A friend of mine asked about installing locking hubs on the rear of his 88
>	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 9 lines)]
>> just make sure that the ones used are good, fresh, heavy-duty ones.  And
>> always carry a spare stock drive plate in case one breaks.

I'd be worried about one breaking - sudden loss of power, engine braking,
and handbrake.
If you've got new nuts on your driveshaft (what 20p each?) they're quite a bit
easier to undo! I'd be tempted to do that too.

Richard ("it happened to fast")
>> >A friend of mine asked about installing locking hubs on the rear of his 88

Just a query...  I toyed with the idea of purchasing a Stolwort 6x6  The
only problem was the fact that it had no diff arrangement between the wheels
along each side of the vehicle...  This means that it snaps the cute little
bevel gearboxes behind the wheels...  Now...  by removing the driveshafts to
all but two of the wheels you have a workable machine...  But hey!  when I
hit the beach (amphibious aren't they?) I want all six wheels attached to
that beastly 4mpg engine!  Is it possible to use any form of FWH on the
wheels that you don't want driven?

An academic question really...  Probably not really for this list... But I'm
sure that one of you out there has an interest in these beastly machines!

Regards ,

James Curtis  (Newcastle UK)

JamesCurtis@Technologist.com

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Rear Propshaft Flange
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 9:48:00 BST

> At 08:36 06/08/97 BST, you wrote:
>  Dear all, here's a question to the Series specialists:
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 18 lines)]
> next time...
> Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

> REPLY:
>  Dear all, here's a question to the Series specialists:
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 13 lines)]
> and removing the drum itself..  (in Haynes terms "simply remove handbrake
> drum!")

Yes, as the thread (pun only picked up on rereading what I wrote, honest!)
developed, I realised I was talking about something  different. Also, I did
the front propshaft more recently than the back - this has four bolts & nuts
on both ends. I think I might have been thinking about that as well... (doh)

> I hope this is of help...
> My reference for this data is a LWB 109 SerII  I hope this is the same..

Mine is SIII, but I bet they are (near-enough) the same.

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: Ralph.Pyne@pscmail.ps.net
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:04:00 +0100
Subject: Re: Stupid hoax. Beware of a Nasty virus !

     
I really don't mean to be rude, but please don't pass this message on, it is a 
hoax and eats up bandwidth. There is no way a standard email message will *ever*
do anything harmful to you, only attachments or links in the mail could do this.
You could read any message, just don't run attached files or view attached 
documents if you are dubious.

The purpose of this sort of thing is to waste bandwidth, there are really 
trivial people in the world.

Additionally this did come from IBM, but they also have another page that notes 
this as a hoax (which it obviously is), there are many of this type of thing 
going around. It is advisable to think a little before sending this sort of 
'mail to all' things out.

Regards,

Ralph Pyne
Network Systems engineer.
101 FC.
> Subject: Beware of a Nasty virus !
> Author:  Brian.Cotton@liapta.pta.lia.net%ussmtp at ccx400uk

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 60 lines)]
> South Africa
> (Sorry about the band width)

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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:05:12 +0100
From: James Curtis <staff@stjohnsba.rmplc.co.uk>
Subject: HOAX -Re: Beware of a Nasty virus !

At 20:29 10/08/97 +0000, you wrote:

URL: http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

I was sent the following information, and I want to pass it along.
IMPORTANT!!!!

It is essential that this problem be reconciled as soon as possible. A
ew hours ago, Someone opened an E-mail that had the subject heading
of ao4free.com.  Within seconds of opening it, a window appeared and
began to display all files that were being deleted.  The user
immediately shut down the computer,  but it was too late.

This virus wiped all out. It ate the  Anti-Virus Software that comes
with the Windows '95 Program along with  F-Prot AVS.  Neither was able
to detect it. ----------------------------

This information was received this morning from IBM, please share it
with anyone that might access the Internet:

If anyone receives e-mail entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" please delete
it WITHOUT READING IT!!  This is a warning for all Internet users
there is a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through an
e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!"

DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GRETINGS"!! This message
>appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in >a
penpal, but by the time you read the letter, it is too late. The 
"trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector of
your hard drive, destroying all of the data present.  It is a
self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will
AUTOMATICALLY!!!!!     forward itself to anyone whose e-mail address
is present in YOUR mailbox!

This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to
DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your IN BOX, and
whose mail is in their in box and so on.  If this virus keeps getting
passed, it has the potential to do a great deal of damage to computer
networks worldwide!!!!

Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" AS SOON AS    
 YOU SEE IT! Pass this message along to all of your friends and other
readers of the newsgroups and mailing lists which you are on so that
they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!!

Please pass this along to everyone you know so this can be stopped.
>appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in >a
rian Cotton
>South Africa
(Sorry about the band width)

I received correspondence from Doctor Solomon's Anti Virus Company two weeks
ago warning about this message...  

The response they gave was that a virus cannot be passed to any computer via
an ascii text message.  ie a standard E mail...  a virus can be contracted
through a file attachment of this is eithe an executable file or a macro file...

The Penpal Greetings was specifically denounced to be a hoax as were several
other of these chain letters that have been going round.

I am not writing this to ridicule or offend the kind person who contacted
the list to warn us of this danger just to let you all know that this and
many other similar messages are OFFICIALLY A HOAX.

Regards 

James Curtis
Newcastle UK

E mail JamesCurtis@technologist.com

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From: Autoconv@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 06:05:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: DISCOVERY / DIFFERENTIAL LOCK.

Christian

ARB Diff, 24 spline metric (RD 56)           #500 each

Detroit Locker, any Rover type                 #395 each

Detroit Truetrac, any Rover type             #395 each

Regards
David Ashcroft

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From: Autoconv@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 06:05:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Stronger axles on SWB?

We can supply a range of Heavy duty diffs and heavy duty halfshafts for the
rear axle and the diffs for the front axle.

David Ashcroft (Automatic Conversions, Autoconv@aol.com)

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