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1 Wesley Harris [wharris@i6[not specified]
2 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 19Series no start
3 rsrose@cco.caltech.edu (21Re: LR Hydraulic Winch Info
4 Adrian Redmond [channel693habitual reviving of intended donor vehicles
5 Steve Stoneham [stoneham11Re: LR Hydraulic Winch Info
6 Michael Carradine [cs@cr19Re: LR Hydraulic Winch Info
7 Daryl Webb [dwebb@waite.23Dormobile for sale in OZ
8 James Curtis [staff@stjo27Re: habitual reviving of intended donor vehicles


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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 06:57:51 -0500
From: Wesley Harris <wharris@infowks.com>

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:15:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Series no start

Dave: If youre sure that all other connections are good then Id bet that the
points are grounded somehow. Lucas points seem to be vunerable to this.
Carefully check the way the points are assembled on the post on the
distributor plate. They must be insulated by the little plastic washers. Also
check that the spring (long thin metal) is not rubbing against something. A
"Click and Clack" tip: in the dark with the cap off observe the points as a
lovely assistant cranks the motor. If there is no spark then the coil or
condensor bad (can only be cured by swapping for good parts) or the points
are grounded. Or not possibly not grounded properly. There is also a little
copper ground strap from the point base to the distributor base. It needs to
be in good condition too. If there is spark, and its not getting down to the
plugs then replace the cap, the wires (unlikely they'd all be bad). Cheers.
Andy Blackley

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From: rsrose@cco.caltech.edu (Randolph S. Rose)
Subject: Re: LR Hydraulic Winch Info
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:06:03 GMT

On Tue, 22 Jul 1997 09:05:11 +0200, Ketil Oftedahl
<Ketil.Oftedahl@robin.no> wrote:

>I have just bought a 1970 SIIA 109' Station Wagon. It has a hydraulic
>winch with a Land Rover logo on it, so I think it is a genuine LR item.
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>Is there anybody out there who can help me ? I am looking for
>specifications, and for technical/repair info.

Try a SeriesII workshop manual, the one that is in one volume.  If you
don't have any luck, let me know.  I remember seeing something in my
library.  Also, LRO mag ran an article on hydraulic winches within the
last few years.  I might be able to dig it up

Randy

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 22:22:34 +0200
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: habitual reviving of intended donor vehicles
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Great to see the eu-lro springing to life - I've been subscribed to this
for a year and have wondered why there are not many postings from this
side of the pond. For those of you who don't know me, here's some info -

Adrian Redmond, 41 yrs old, English but married and living in Denmark, I
run my own television and film production company, and have done for the
last 17 years, 15 years of which i am proud to say have been hopelessly
linked to rovering.

I have three rovers (the third one arrived today!) -

Series III 1979  88" 2,25 diesel hardtop (Icelander)
Series III 1976 109" 2,25 diesel hardtop (sometimes pickup)
Series III 1972  88" 2,25 diesel hardtop (maybe a pickup)

Out of curiousity, I'd love to hear how many other lro's have aqquired
their second/third/fourth LR by assuring the spouse that "I'm only
buying it for spares" - I must confess to the tactic - I have just
bought a 1972 88" SIII (horrible silver colour) for the gearbox and
spare motor, both of which work without problems - because the other 88"
needs a total rebuild on the box to handle daily driving by those in the
family not aquainted with double-declutching - the syncro is smashed and
a total rebuiild will actually cost more than a donor truck. So I am in
the process of swapping gearboxes. (how many can be swapped in a day?).

Well i got her home, washed her underneath just to see what shape she's
in before removing said gearbox - shipfitters disease strikes quickly,
by evening I had stripped the frame around the box, and the tank, and
decided "I may as well rust pait it under there whilst the box is out.
The motor chamber is fine, no rust, no oily squirts, and nothing seems
missing - i suspect the fuel system needs bleeding, but other than that,
I have got myself a complete wagon for less than a gearbox rebuild. The
top is in good shape, andf as a plus has the 2 part "hatchback" rear
door with wipermotor fitted. The manifold and exhaust is interesting -
instead of the downpipe arrangement which I am used to - the pipe
dissappears through the wing, then under the car - is this a usual early
SIII arrangement? And there is no servo on the brakes and no servo
reservoir up front - is this typical for the vintage?

Front springs ok - rear springs "somewhat knackered" and a few rust
spots on the frame aft of the cabin. Rear cross member totally shot. A
half or quarter frameover will solve that, plus a set of springs and in
no time, my "spares donor" regular driver.

But then I'll have to find a cheap gearbox to replace the on that I am
swapping into it - but then a donor truck may be cheaper than a rebuild
- and so on - ad infinitum. (Does anyone recognise the symptoms?)

All in all, not a bad day's shopping!

 
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 17:00:47 -0400
From: Steve Stoneham <stoneham@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: LR Hydraulic Winch Info

> Try a SeriesII workshop manual, the one that is in one volume.
 
>From page T28 to page T34 in the Series II workshop manual, covers
maintenence/stripping/assembling/recommended lubricants etc.for the
hydraulic winch. 
Steve

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:39:30 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: LR Hydraulic Winch Info

At 08:06 PM 7/23/97 GMT, Randolph S. Rose wrote:
:Try a SeriesII workshop manual, the one that is in one volume.  If you
:don't have any luck, let me know.  I remember seeing something in my
:library.  Also, LRO mag ran an article on hydraulic winches within the
:last few years.  I might be able to dig it up

 Hi Randy,

 I'd be interested in the hydraulic winch info!  I'm considering a
 single speed Milemarker powered by the power steering pump on the
 Range Rover.  All the things I've heard about them are positive,
 that is, as long as the engine is running ;)

-Michael

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From: Daryl Webb <dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Dormobile for sale in OZ
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 08:58:04 +0930 (CST)

Howdy strangers, a titbit from todays (24/7/97) Adelaide south oz trading 
post magazine
 IIa Dormobile wagon for sale
3.3l holden engine conversion dual fuel  (petrol LPG)
$4200 ono.  phone  +61 8 8386 0909

If this is the one I think it is some of the Dormobile fittings have been 
removed to fit the LPG (though the owner may still have them I dont know) 

Still someone might be interested particularly as the OZ dollar is a bit 
weak at the moment ...

cheers guys

 -- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 09:34:28 +0100
From: James Curtis <staff@stjohnsba.rmplc.co.uk>
Subject: Re: habitual reviving of intended donor vehicles

>Adrian Redmond, 41 yrs old, English but married and living in Denmark, I
>run my own television and film production company, and have done for the

 The manifold and exhaust is interesting -
>instead of the downpipe arrangement which I am used to - the pipe
>dissappears through the wing, then under the car - is this a usual early
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 8 lines)]
>All in all, not a bad day's shopping!
>Adrian Redmond

I have come accross this up and over exhaust arrangement...  
This manifold is used when there is a Front winch fitted with a mechanical
drive to the rear gearbox PTO.  The standard dropdown exhaust gets in the
way of the driveshaft to the winch..

There may be other reasons for this arrangement but this one I had fitted to
my Series II

Hope this settles your curiosity... (look for evidence of a winch having
been removed...  (front vallance missing etc))

James Curtis

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