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From: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:10:56 +0000
Subject: Re: center seat storage container

>>         I'm looking for a storage bin to fit in the space where the
>>         center seat
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 7 lines)]
>I love the Tuffy box I have.  The cupholder well definitely get in
>the way of an overdrive lever, but can be mounted elsewhere.  The URL

I have a cardboard box in my 90. So much for teh Real LRs vs 
Plushmobile arguments........

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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 09:20:44 -0400
From: Keith Mohlenhoff <krm@nj.paradyne.com>
Subject: Coolant System

Hello all;

Thanks to all who made suggestions regarding the collant in my overflow bottle not getting back to
the radiator.

It seems to have been the overflow tube, after I replaced it with new tubing, things were better.

Thanks 

Keith R. Mohlenhoff

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From: cutts@mindspring.com (Bill Cutts)
Subject: '97 Disco A/C Problem
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 13:55:56 GMT

The air conditioning on my Disco has decided to become rather flaky.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. My local dealer has not been
able to fix it, debugging intermittent problems is a bit of a problem
at times :-(

A clue, I have an SE-7 with a front and rear air conditioner and
either both work or both don't work. Based on this (and that it's a
Land Rover) I expect an electrical problem. The local dealer replaced
the compressor but that didn't help. A friend with the same vehicle is
beginning to see the same problem. Can anyone help with the diagnosis
and cure?

Thanks,

Bill
cutts@mindspring.com

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:12:39 -0400
Subject: Re: '97 Disco A/C Problem

If they're completely separate systems (2 compressors and the like) then
i'd suspect electrical, as you do. Check the grounding of the system - from
what I remember hearing here some Discos had a problem withintermittent
ground leads in the panel which caused all sorts of flakies.

If they're running on the same cooling circuit (1 compressor and the like),
I'd suspect a bad low-pressure switch or marginally low Freon pressure
causing the low-pressure sensor to kick out the compressor clutch.

                    aj"Just my .02 worth"r

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:50:00 -0400
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Re: '97 Disco A/C Problem

The A/C in my SIII is directly proportional to the speed I can ( or can
not) attain in concert with the amount of windows and vents I can pry open:>

Cheers

end
74 SIII 88 (Chester)  180,000+
http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm  Updated

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:11:51 -0400
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jberg@hearstnewmedia.com>
Subject: re: Series Land-Rover half-shafts

James Wolf writes:

>I just saw your letter on the L-R net, do you still make these stronger
>half-shafts?...[SNIP]... Any comments or
>thoughts from you on this?

My comment would be don't try, you might succeed.  Halfshafts are designed
weak for a reason: they serve as a "fuse" for the differential and the rest
of the drive train.  They are easily replaced, relatively inexpensive and
can prevent serious damage to more costly machinery.

Eric Zipkin, Jeff Meyer, Dixon and I recently made an interesting discovery
in Dale Despry's driveway.  While draining a little more of Lake Ontario
out of FINSUP's rear diff, a chunk of halfshaft dropped into Eric's hand.
We immediately pulled the halfshafts and found them to be intact.  This was
leftover from a previous break.  (Yes, the diff had been pulled on each
previous shaft break--this piece had apparently temporarily welded itself
to the casing .)  The leftover had also obviously been "processed" by a
quick run through the diff gears.  We only recognized it as a piece of
shaft because of slight machining marks outlining what used to be splines.

I for one am glad that these things are made out of (relatively) soft metal...

RoverOn!

jab

==
Jeffrey A. Berg
Macintosh Systems Consultant
Phone     (212) 649-2322
FAX        (212) 957-8524
mailto:jberg@hearstnewmedia.com

To report HNMC Macintosh problems use
mailto:support@hearstnewmedia.com
Remember, the subject line must include
NMC MAC "Brief Description"

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:17:25 -0400
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jberg@hearstnewmedia.com>
Subject: Tuffy as center storage

I too have a Tuffy box (the wider model) and find it to be nearly ideal.
It fits' exactly between the existing seat brackets meaning I can change
back to a seat pretty quickly if desired.  It is slightly longer than the
seat box, but doesn't foul my straight Fairey overdrive lever.  (The "bent
inward & back" Toro lever might not clear.)

Well made, and it provides lockable storage and an armrest.  The only
downcheck: I lost the use of the cupholder that I had bolted to the tranny
tunnel.  Still looking for a satisfactory replacement.

Oh and one more thing: though I'm pretty sure that the Tuffy won't leak in
a rainstorm, when you're sitting up to your waist in Lake Ontario the box
is most definitely "NOT WATERPROOF."

RoverOn!

jab
"Boundry Bags -- lot's and lot's of Boundry Bags..."

==
Jeffrey A. Berg
Macintosh Systems Consultant
Phone     (212) 649-2322
FAX        (212) 957-8524

This is my "freelance corporate sellout account"
My *real* email is, and always will be
mailto:jeff@purpleshark.com

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:24:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: re: Series Land-Rover half-shafts

On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Jeffrey A. Berg wrote:

> My comment would be don't try, you might succeed.  Halfshafts are designed
> weak for a reason: they serve as a "fuse" for the differential and the rest
> of the drive train.  They are easily replaced, relatively inexpensive and
> can prevent serious damage to more costly machinery.

	To play a bit of devils advocate, has Rover ever actually said
this?  Is there anything to back this up from an engineering standpoint,
or is this just a really good excuse for poor alloy?  Just curious.

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: re: Series Land-Rover half-shafts

Dixon said:

>	To play a bit of devils advocate, has Rover ever actually said
>this?  Is there anything to back this up from an engineering standpoint,
>or is this just a really good excuse for poor alloy?  Just curious.

I am, nowadays, rather inclined to agree with this view and tend to view the
"fuse" theory as an urban legend.  As you say, though, who knows?  Has Lode
Lane ever commented on this?  Not that I've ever heard.

Granny

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From: Turpsters@aol.com
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:37:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Rover for sale

I have a blue 1990 Range Rover, County edition for sale here in the States.
It only has 46,000 miles on it and looks and runs great. Please e-mail me
back if interested.
                                                               John

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From: "Chris Weinbeck, Office Logic, Inc." <cmw@tiac.net>
Subject: Lumaweld
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:40:47 -0400

Sorry to have sat on this info but...

Eastwood stocks the equivalent of Lumiweld (Alumiweld #8501) they are at =
800-557-3277 or 24hr "worldwide fax" at 610-644-0560.

Northern Hydraulics also carries this stuff VERY cheap, item =
#11070-c095.  They are at 800-533-5545 or fax to 612-894-0083.

If you are in the united States then you can go to Home Depot or =
wherever and look for Benzomatic products.  Among the little packs of =
brazing rods and solder one should find these rods.

Chris

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:39:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Rover for sale

Where are you and an asking price would be REALLY nice.....

                    ajr

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 07 Jul 97 11:37:15 MST
Subject: Lower x-case low range gears

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
Someone mentioned lower x-case low range gears (2.88 I think) where can
I get some? Are they stock 1 tonne gears? Anyone have a set that they
wouldn't mind parting with??? (Well, ya never know 'till ya ask!)

Dave (in search of the LR crawler) Brown

 I count him braver who overcomes     #=======#         _____l___
 his desires than him who conquers    |__|__|__\___    //__/__|__\___
 his enemies; for the hardest victory | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ - _|}
 is the victory over self. -Aristotle "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)

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From: Turpsters@aol.com
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:55:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Rover for sale

I'm asking $18,000 for the Range Rover and it is now in Dallas, TX.
Please e-mail back.
                                                   John

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From: S1artLover@aol.com
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:41:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: unsubscribe

 unsubscribe land-rover-owner S1artLover@aol.com

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Date: 07 Jul 97 16:44:04 EDT
From: "Jeffrey B. Aronson" <76255.2146@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: James Small - Choke Cables

My '66 II-A has the choke cable under the dash, and that's the original
location. The orange or yellow lamp on the dash should go on when the engine
temperature is high enough to warrant closing the choke. My original cable knob
also read "cold start."

Perhaps the second one was installed when the orgininal broke. There's a fitting
on the firewall that makes it a bear to replace the original, so the PO might
have simply bypassed and drilled another hole in the dash. Or perhaps he or she
didn't like leaning over to manipulate the choke.

My original cable broke last year in my daily driver. The Genuine Parts
replacement is the Leyland version, complete with goofy graphics on the knob -
my Triumph has the same one.  Unfortunately, the orginal knob was
glued/pressed/whatever onto the cable and could not be swapped out.

Best wishes with the II-A. I love mine for daily use.

Jeff Aronson
Vinalhaven Island, ME
QE I - '66 II-A SW
QE IV - '78 Triumph Spitfire

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From: Chuque Henry <ChuqueH@isco.com>
Subject: Sighting - Nebraska
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:49:23 -0500

I saw a white Defender 110 Station wagon with safari rack coming back to
Lincoln this weekend.  Awsome vehicle.  I was tempted to whip across the
median and chase him down, but my wife wasn't interested.

Anyone on the list?

-Q
"Where Did I Go Today?"

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From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:10:29 -0400
Subject: test

this is just a test.
don't reply.
(this means you too !)
-B

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 07:20:43 +1000
From: amanda@zeta.org.au (Phil & Amanda Carkagis)
Subject: Nigel's disease (fuel guage)

Hi all,

Alexander Grice wrote:
>Recently the Fuel Gauge has gone bonkers.  From half up it works fine but
>when it goes down below half it marks empty.

>Ah ha! So *you're* to blame!  Mine has been doing just that as of late!  
>Nigel's Disease appears once again.  Cheers

My Series III fuel guage was working fine until I read a posting to the list
a week or so ago!

After having problems with under-reading fuel and temp guages a while ago, I
removed the steering wheel, loosened the instrument panel, disconnected the
speedo drive, accessed the voltage stabiliser and adjusted it to give a more
accurate reading on the guages.

Despite cranking up the voltage a bit too much, all was well until last week
when the guages decided to make up for lost time and are now over-reading!
Oh well, back to the tool box again- it looks like it is either time to wind
the voltage back down or lash out and buy a new voltage stabiliser.

Such is life.

Regards,
Phil Carkagis
S III 109 5-door oil-burner
101 FC                 "Blossom" because it's such a delicate little thing.

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From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:27:36 -0400
Subject: test

test 
ignore
xx

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From: "Richard Clarke"<Richard.Clarke@nre.vic.gov.au>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 08:33:53 +1000
Subject: fitting second fuel tank without second filler

why not put a 'T' piece at the top of the tank where the filler goes in and
then when the first tank is full the fuel will run along the pipe behind
the seats and into the second tank

put a fuel pump from the outlet on the new tank to  a 'T' in the breather
on the main tank then fill the main tank with the pump - if you 'overfill
it' the excess will run back down the filler 'T"

just a suggestion for consideration

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 19:21:22 -0400
From: Steve Rochna <75347.452@compuserve.com>
Subject: Burnt valves

Hi all:

After limping most of the way home from Down East I finally decided to ri=
p
into the problem yesterday evening.  #3 and #4 cylendars both had poor
compression (60 - 70) so I figured a new head gasket was in order.  Not
wanting to hear about spending the long weekend with dirty fingernails I
didn't rush the order.  Well I figured that Sunday night was long enough =
to
wait and removed the head.  For one the bolts varied greatly in how much
torque was required to free them  -  some took a pipe on the ratchet and
others hardly any pressure without the pipe.

This morning when I got the old valve spring compressor out and looked at=

the valves the story was told (completely I hope).  The #1 exhaust valve
looked barely passable and that was the good one, #2 was a bit worse.  #3=

and #4 were not only pitted but actually bent looking at the points where=

they contact the seat.  Another phone call and more money should solve th=
e
problem and get me an unleaded head.  The next delay will be getting the
head to the shop (I hate when someone else works on my Rover) for
installation of the new seats and regrinding the intake valves.  After th=
at
I should be good to go.

Take care

Steve Rochna  --  bummin' a ride
Va. Beach, Va.  =

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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 19:57:04 -0400
From: Brett Storey <brstore@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Series Land-Rover half-shafts

Jeffrey A. Berg wrote:

> My comment would be don't try, you might succeed.  Halfshafts are designed
> weak for a reason: they serve as a "fuse" for the differential and the rest
> of the drive train.  They are easily replaced, relatively inexpensive and
> can prevent serious damage to more costly machinery.
SNIP

I’ve heard and read this before too and always thought it made sense,
halfshaft breaks, diff and gearbox spared. But what I don’t understand
is why the Series III 109’s were introduced with the salisbury  axle and
all of a sudden it’s, presto changeo, no more broken half shafts. Where
is this weak link now? As far as I know the SIII 88 and 109’s have
always had the same gearbox yet the 109 gets the much stronger rear end.

I’ve broken my fair share of half shafts so I’m curious. 

Brett

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: scooper@scooper.seanet.com (John & Sandy Cooper)
Subject: rivits

Has anyone located a "local" source for the round-head bucking rivits that
are located throughout much of the Land-Rover?  
                   Thanks.    John Cooper

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 21:34:35 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Center seat tool bin

Chris Dow wrote:

>I'm looking for a storage bin to fit in the space where the center seat
>cushion used to be in my S3....

If you'd like to keep the seat, but still gain a storage box, give Steve 
Johnson at Dixieland Rovers a call.  (Sorry, I don't have his number, but 
he's in Tifton, GA so information or a southern list member can give you the 
number.)  It's a nice bit of kit...galvanized steel nicely done up on a 
brake.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"    |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 21:11:47 -0500
From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: rivits

> Has anyone located a "local" source for the round-head bucking rivits that
> are located throughout much of the Land-Rover?  
>                    Thanks.    John Cooper

What's "local"? McMaster Carr caries them.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 21:14:34 -0500
Subject: Re: rivits

> Has anyone located a "local" source for the round-head bucking rivits that
> are located throughout much of the Land-Rover?  
>                    Thanks.    John Cooper

What's "local"? McMaster Carr caries them.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 19:38:22 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re/2: rivits

At 09:11 PM 7/7/97 -0500, Tom Rowe wrote:
:> Has anyone located a "local" source for the round-head bucking rivits
:
:What's "local"? McMaster Carr caries them.

 OK, who and where is McMaster Carr, and do they have a phone? TIA

 Regards,
                       ______
 Michael Carradine     [__[__\==                  72-88, 89-RR Land Rovers
 Architect             [________]               www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
 510-988-0900 _______.._(o)__.(o)__..o^^ POBox 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 22:50:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Cassidy <rovah@agate.net>
Subject: 3.9L Rover Block wanted....

Hoping that someone out there can help me out with locating a used 3.9L
block/engine, which will be the basis for a stroker engine in my '87 Range
Rover.  I'm still weighing all my engine options, but would like to stroke
a Rover product.  Please contact me direct with any information!

Thanks in advance for your help!  John

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 00:22:48 -0400
From: Rob Dennis <RobD@UnitedParking.com>
Subject: Re: Center seat tool bin

Steve's Number is: (912) 386-8498

At 09:34 PM 7/7/97 -0400, Sandy wrote:
>If you'd like to keep the seat, but still gain a storage box, give Steve 
>Johnson at Dixieland Rovers a call.  (Sorry, I don't have his number, but 
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 7 lines)]
>number.)  It's a nice bit of kit...galvanized steel nicely done up on a 
>brake.  Cheers

  
     -------------------       
    |         |         |
    | _ _ ____|____ _ _ |       Rob Dennis
  O |[___|>>>>>>>>>|___]| O     RobD@UnitedParking.com
   \____===_=====_===____/      Atlanta, GA USA
   |oo   |(_)###(_)|   oo|      (404) 875-4537
   |     |   ###   |     |      
   |     | ####### |     |      1972 SerIII 88
   |_____|_#######_|_____|      1996 Discovery
  [_______________________]     1963 MB Unimog 404.1
     EEEI           EEEI

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From: "Joost Kramer" <j.kramer@Ehv.Tass.Philips.Com>
Subject: Re: '97 Disco A/C Problem
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 97 09:05:41 +0200 (DST)

Hi,

I had the same problem with the rover 827, after a long search we
discovered a bad contact (contact was burned off) in a magnet relais, which
switches the A/C on and off (even in the position on, on the dash). Now it
works fine again! BTW Rover could not find the problem.

Joost Kramer

> The air conditioning on my Disco has decided to become rather flaky.
> Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. My local dealer has not been
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
> beginning to see the same problem. Can anyone help with the diagnosis
> and cure?

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 18:22:17 +0900
From: Alan Logue <Logue@a011.aone.net.au>
Subject: Rover Aust Web Page

Just got my copy of Land Rover Experience, and you may like to check out
Rover Australia's web page - its a bit slow, but very creative. All we need
to do now is get all the dealers onto EMail, or their own web pages!!!
www.rover.com.au
Alan
Logue & Associates
PO Box 689
Morphett Vale
South Australia 5162
ph 61+8+83844443   fax 61+8+83267227

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From: Max Mawdsley <maxm@wpds.com>
Subject: Strange Rovers
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:51:43 +0100

Sorry for those who are effected by the cross-posting, but I'm after a wide audience.

Has anyone out there any experience of a Strange Rover  comp safari vehicle?

We've found one for sale,  minus a few bits and pieces, and we're after any background or info on how good/bad they 
are.

All replies welcome, and if you want to slag the vehicle off in private, reply direct to maxm@wpds.com.

Many thanks.

Max Mawdsley.

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: rivits
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:00:45 +0000

At 02:14 AM 7/8/97 +0000, you wrote:
>To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net

http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
>> Has anyone located a "local" source for the round-head bucking rivits that
>> are located throughout much of the Land-Rover?  
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 17 lines)]
>trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                
> Four wheel drive allows you to get
> stuck in places even more inaccessible.

McMaster Carr is a good source
Rovers North also has them 
>> Has anyone located a "local" source for the round-head bucking rivits that
>> are located throughout much of the Land-Rover?  
>>                    Thanks.    John Cooper

Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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From: "Huub Pennings" <pennings@kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:34:18 +0100
Subject:       Re: Strange Rovers

Max,  
    enlighten me,
                 what Is a strange Rover.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????    Regards,

Huub Pennings

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 07:01:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: mr@grant.media-gn.nl (Marc Rengers)
Subject: Re: Strange Rovers

A Strange Rover....... yes.

We've built one once. It's actually a Range Rover chassis with a polyester
body and a very thick rollcage. The chassis is also shortened, the fuel
tank is replaced by one wich fits above the rearaxle inside the body.

Very good fun to drive though! I can't remember the name of the guy who's
building them right now in Holland, but I think there must be an advert in
Captain or 4WD in Holland.

Marc Rengers                                mr@grant.media-gn.nl
Westeremden, Holland                        http://minerva.media-gn.nl/landrover
Tel: (+31) 0596-551334                      Pager: (+31) 06-59111461

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 1977  88" III 2.25    1987  110"  2.5         1968  109"  2.25
 petrol    23-67-XB    diesel RH-12-PF         petrol unknown reg.
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                  and 300 TDi (it is already)

also subscribed to LAND ROVER Owner International (great magazine)

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Date: 08 Jul 97 10:28:34 EDT
From: "Jeffrey B. Aronson" <76255.2146@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Copy of: James Small - Choke Cables

---------- Forwarded Message ----------

From:	Jeffrey B. Aronson, 76255,2146
TO:	Land Rover Digest, INTERNET:lro@Land-Rover.Team.Net
DATE:	7/7/97 10:50 AM

RE:	Copy of: James Small - Choke Cables

My '66 II-A has the choke cable under the dash, and that's the original
location. The orange or yellow lamp on the dash should go on when the engine
temperature is high enough to warrant closing the choke. My original cable knob
also read "cold start."

Perhaps the second one was installed when the orgininal broke. There's a fitting
on the firewall that makes it a bear to replace the original, so the PO might
have simply bypassed and drilled another hole in the dash. Or perhaps he or she
didn't like leaning over to manipulate the choke.

My original cable broke last year in my daily driver. The Genuine Parts
replacement is the Leyland version, complete with goofy graphics on the knob -
my Triumph has the same one.  Unfortunately, the orginal knob was
glued/pressed/whatever onto the cable and could not be swapped out.

Best wishes with the II-A. I love mine for daily use.

Jeff Aronson
Vinalhaven Island, ME
QE I - '66 II-A SW
QE IV - '78 Triumph Spitfire

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 97 10:58:14 EST
Subject: Trac-Edge

I have found a set of BF Goodrich Trac-Edge tires, 235-85-16, can anybody 
offer up an opinion on these tires? Its about $750 for a set mounted and 
balanced. Is it worth it?
How good are they off road?

Thanks
DaveB

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:59:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: pscales@blvl.igs.net (P.S.)
Subject: New subscriber

Hello,

My name is Peter, and I recently joined the list after buying a 1959 Series
II diesel.  I live in Trenton, Ontario, and was surprised to find a Landy
without much frame rust, so I bought this one!

Can any of the Ontario subscribers tell me where they get parts in Ontario
or western Quebec?

Peter

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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 15:38:40 -0700
From: "Matthew P. Martin" <matt@webspan.net>
Subject: VIN Mystery

With my new Land Rover purchase I discovered a mystery....

I thought my SIIa 109 was from 1962...However the old registration says 
1967...The shop manual in the front has a column with my VIN number in it 
but no date above the column, I could assume that colun is for the '62's 
however I do not know if they repaeted VIN numbers.

Here the VIN #26102066C, I could not find anything with a suffix "C" 
after it either!

Let me know what you find!!
Thanks in advance

Matt
'95 D90 #2899
'62 (I think) SIIa 109

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 08:56:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Trac-Edge

Dave,

>I have found a set of BF Goodrich Trac-Edge tires, 235-85-16, can anybody 
>offer up an opinion on these tires? Its about $750 for a set mounted and 
>balanced. Is it worth it?
>How good are they off road?

Those I know who have them are very happy with them, both on- and off-road.
If that price is for four it sounds a bit steep.

Granny

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:35:05 -0400
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: Want ad

Wanted
Painter, experienced in auto finishes for high end restoration shop.
Excellent work enviroment. New additional full time position, with
benefits. Contact ECR or send resume to:
East Coast Rover Co.
Paint Dept.
21 Tolman Road
Warren, ME 04864

Thanks! :-)

From: East Coast Rover Co.,Inc.  *Land Rover and Vintage 4X4 Specialists*
Mike Smith, Alan Adolphsen, or Ian Cooke
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
207.594.8086 phone
207.594.8120 fax

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 12:47:39 -0400
From: Rob Dennis <RobD@UnitedParking.com>
Subject: Re: Trac-Edge

I have had a set for about 3 years and am very happy with them. I think
they are a great compromise between on and off-road ability. I bought a set
of 5 for around $600 (7.50r16), including road hazard which has already
been used to replace a tire that I damaged off-road. I have heard from a
friend that BFG is not making this tire anymore, but I haven't heard this
confirmed from any other source. You might ought to check into this before
you buy a set. Let us know what you find out.

Rob

At 10:58 AM 7/8/97 EST, you wrote:
>I have found a set of BF Goodrich Trac-Edge tires, 235-85-16, can anybody 
>offer up an opinion on these tires? Its about $750 for a set mounted and 
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Thanks
>DaveB
  
     -------------------       
    |         |         |
    | _ _ ____|____ _ _ |       Rob Dennis
  O |[___|>>>>>>>>>|___]| O     RobD@UnitedParking.com
   \____===_=====_===____/      Atlanta, GA USA
   |oo   |(_)###(_)|   oo|      (404) 875-4537
   |     |   ###   |     |      
   |     | ####### |     |      1972 SerIII 88
   |_____|_#######_|_____|      1996 Discovery
  [_______________________]     1963 MB Unimog 404.1
     EEEI           EEEI

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:11:56 -0400
From: Jeffrey A Berg <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Subject: re: Center seat tool bin

Sandy  Grice says:

>If you'd like to keep the seat, but still gain a storage box, give Steve
>Johnson at Dixieland Rovers a call.  (Sorry, I don't have his number, but
>he's in Tifton, GA so information or a southern list member can give you the
>number.)  It's a nice bit of kit...galvanized steel nicely done up on a
>brake.  Cheers

I have one of Steve's trays.  The quality is just as Sandy says.  Only
shortcomeing:  The design (at least of mine) doesn't take into account the
hand brake cross-bar for a left-hand drive Rover.  This means the tray
sits a little proud and the cover doesn't sit flush to seatbox.  Eric
Zipkin can has a solution -- using his "special Rover tool  Mark II" --
that is free to Zippytow Platinum members, but it leaves the tray less
asthetically pleasing.

RoverOn!

jab

==
 Jeffrey A. Berg     Purple Shark Media        Rowayton, CT
                    jeff@purpleshark.com
                     ==================
	My garden is full of papayas and mangos.
	My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos.
	Taste for the good life,
	I can see it no other way.
		--Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version)

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:51:20 -0400
Subject: Re: Strange Rovers

Huub asked:

>Max,
>    enlighten me,
>                 what Is a strange Rover.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????
Regards,
>Huub Pennings
>    enlighten me,
>                 what Is a strange Rover.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????

Isn't "Strange Rover" rather redundant?

Seems to me that that's not unlike "cold ice" or "wet ocean"....kinda goes
with the territory.....

               ajr

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 13:52:37 -0700
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Re: Center seat tool bin

Alexander P. Grice wrote:
> Chris Dow wrote:
> >I'm looking for a storage bin to fit in the space where the center seat
> >cushion used to be in my S3....

No, I didn't.  I told him to get a Tuffy.  There's another solution, if
you want to keep the seat, however.  I've been thinking about this
because I want to ditch the LH underseat tool box for a second fuel
tank, but need that storage.  The solution is to put a tool chest behind
the seat bulkhead (in an 88").  I've been eyeballing mine, and I think I
can put a 6" wide x width of tub floor x height of wheel well tool chest
without compromising the clearance of the foreward (SW seats)
passengers.

C
Go that way--really fast.  If something gets in your way, turn!

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 97 17:13:35 EST
Subject: Re[2]: Trac-Edge

>Those I know who have them are very happy with them, both on- and off-road.
>If that price is for four it sounds a bit steep.

>Granny

So far I've got em down to $685, for a set of 5 mounted and balanced. 
Everyone I talk to wants to sell em cheaper than the previous guy. Also 
what they tell me is that it's not discontinued, just not very popular and 
therefore most places don't stock 'em.

thanks
Dave

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From: RykRover@aol.com
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:29:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: rivits

I have access to all kinds of sizes, but you need the right tool for it to
work.(comimg from aircraft industry).  Let me know   
                                        RGDS, Rick

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From: Wmohara@aol.com
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:07:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: hello

hello ,my name is bill O,Hara and im looking for a heater distribution box ,
or a plenum . for the interior of my 1960  88 . it didnt come with a heater
and then i found a mt mansfeild heater  hey  ... whadya know  so if anyone
has leads give me a holler thanks  bill ohara  email wmohara@aol.com

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From: robot1@juno.com
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 20:06:03 -0500
Subject: sightings

I saw a series (2a or 3?) 88 in (limestone?) crossing route 59 at  allen
road in the pontiac, Michigan area around 4:30 local time. Anyone on the
list? didn't get a good look as I was dealing with a pacifier emergency
with the baby in the back seat. Was riding with wife in Honda, and it had
already gone past before I got a good look. It's always nice to see one
running.

Mark

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 18:19:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: New subscriber

At 10:59 AM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>My name is Peter, and I recently joined the list after buying a 1959 Series
>II diesel.  I live in Trenton, Ontario, and was surprised to find a Landy
 
Dunno how close you are to Ottawa, but you should join OVLR.

>Can any of the Ontario subscribers tell me where they get parts in Ontario
>or western Quebec?
 
I understand the back of Dixon's LR is a good place to start...  8^)

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:16:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: rivits

What I'd really like to add to the tool box is a tool to back up the rivit
while bucking it, so the head *stays* rounded!
Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"  (FS, delivery on east seaboard possible)
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, just about a couple dozen satisfied
customers!!

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:27:42 -0400
From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Trac-Edge

Over here, north of the border, the Trac Edges go for about 140-160$ Can
mounted. Add 5$ a tire for balance.

I bought a clone set at Wal-Mart. These are called Traction King and have
exactly, and I mean exactly the same thread and construction as the Trac
Edge but they don't wear the BF Goodrich name. The were 100$ Can each for
7.50-16's. Am very happy with them. I didn't want to pay 50 bucks a tire for
a name...

Don't kniow about the American Wal-Marts, but it might be worth a check.

Good luck, 

Michel Bertrand
						______
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, 		       /    __
					      /        \
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)	   		     | Lucas    |
1968 109 SW (in the works)		     |  Inside  |
1973 88 SW (21st century project)	      \        /
					       \______/

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:10:02 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: UK plates

I've always found the British system of vehicle registration a tad curious. 
Here's a bit I found in the paper today:

"In December, a man from southern England named Nigel paid about $128,000 
(£50,000??) at a London auction for the license plate "N1 GEL".  The sale of 
eighty other plates brought in around $2.7 million.  A month before, a much 
less wealthy Dave Parker spent about $40 to have a plate matching his name.  
He paid a filing fee to legally change his name to (Mr.) C539 FUG, his 
current license plate."  

Cheers (and sorry for the lack of Rover content).  I wonder how much my 
plate "ROVERS" would be worth??

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"    |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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