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5 Dean Cording [dean@holly31Re: Waxoyl substitutes
6 kelliott@intranet.ca (Ke18Re: Body fillers
7 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 14Defender 110 For Sale
8 NADdMD@aol.com 16Re: Clutch problem solution(s)
9 joy@emarkt.com 9RE: Defender - wipers (not so synchronized!)
10 "DAN PRASADARAO, AIR-7.420Performance Carbs for 2.25
11 "Jeffrey B. Aronson" [7673Events at the Downeast Rally
12 "Chris Weinbeck, Office 27Waxoyl substitute experiment
13 mtooze@tan.unl.edu (Marc26Re: Waxoyl substitute experiment
14 "Jeffrey B. Aronson" [7623Downeast Rally & Murphy's Law
15 Iwan Vosloo [ivosloo@cs.24Ser 3 Gearbox Questions


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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 12:45:17 +0200
From: Phil Robins <etlpprs@eed.ericsson.se>
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:04:10 +0000 (GMT)
From: "VRIES DE J.W." <vriesde7@dutccis.ct.tudelft.nl>
Subject: Re: Dummies guide to unsubscribing and more from AOL

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 12:53:33 +0100
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:02:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: FAQ's on the major...

Hi all...

It seems I have been on this list so long that I cannot recall how to
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 22:49:58 +1000 (EST)
From: Dean Cording <dean@holly.cbr.aspect.com.au>
Subject: Re: Waxoyl substitutes

On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Alexander P. Grice wrote:

> John  Tackley is trying to come up with a substitute for Waxoyl
> Waxoyl ain't the only game on the block, though it may be the best. 

One rust preventative that's popular over here is Fisholac.  It's a
substance based on fish oil that soaks into rust and dries like a lacquer
which can be painted over.  I've been using it on my repaired door frames.

It does have one drawback.  Being made of fish oil, it smells a bit fishy.
I've been using the deodourised stuff, and well if this is deodourised
then the normal stuff must really pong.  Its not too bad in a well
ventilated vechicles like the Landy but I sprayed it inside the door of a
mate's Mini I repaired and he complained of having to drive with the
windows open for three months.  Apparently it was interesting after the
car had been parked in the sun for a while.

The neighbourhood cats sure do start taking an interest in your Landy
though!

Dean
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:42:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott)
Subject: Re: Body fillers

>I have a few small holes and dents in the Birmabright that will need repair
>before the paint goes on.  I'm considering using a lightweight body filler
>(with screen for strength over the holes).  Does anyone have experience with
>fillers and Birmabright?   None of the materials which I've read make any
>reference to aluminum.

I had many holes in my wings that the PO had drilled so that the bondo he
put on to fill a dent would have something to grab onto. I took all of the
filler out of the dent and holes, banged out the dent and used a product
called "Allmetal", it is basically bondo impregnated with a metal of some
sort. So far it has worked out ok.

Keith

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:36:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Defender 110 For Sale

I noticed in todays Cleveland Plain Dealer the following ad:
"LR '93 Defender 110-excellent cond. $45,000 or best offer. 330-836-6105 or
330-864-0676"
 Why, I remember a time when ya could buy a small house fer THAT kinda money.
The area code indicates the Akron-Canton, Ohio area.
If anyone is (seriously) interested I live in the area and might be able to
help, etc.
Cheers. Andy Blackley

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 11:36:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Clutch problem solution(s)

In a message dated 97-06-19 07:39:06 EDT, you write:

<< AND a new rear main seal!
  >>

Oh yeah and that too. :)
It is amazing to me how well the brick ran with basically no clutch lining
left!

Nate

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 16:56:56 BST
From: joy@emarkt.com
Subject: RE: Defender - wipers (not so synchronized!)

On our 1986 110 the wipers don't always rest at the bottom of their cycle in the same place every time - BUT at least they seem to BOTH rest at the same height.

> the wipers will 
>park anywhere between the bottom of the screen to 6 inches up the screen. 

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:04:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "DAN PRASADARAO, AIR-7.4.1, SECURITY (301)757-1479 X26"
Subject: Performance Carbs for 2.25

I appreciate the additional info on carb conversions it will be very useful
in a month or two when I start looking for a replacement for a beat, worn
out Solex.  I do have one question and one clarification.

	What is the 2286 engine you refer to?  I've seen this number
before.  Is this simply the actual displacement of what is commonly
referred to as the 2.25 engine?

	Regarding the "3456" number that appears in the denominator of the
CFM equation.  If I'm not mistaken this number should be independent of the
pressure (1.5" or merc).  It's actually a multiplication of two numbers
(1728x2).  The first (1728) is the conversion of cubic inches to cubic feet
(1728 cubic inches/cubic foot).  The 2 is there to divide the RPM in half
since it takes two revolutions to displace 139.5 cubic inches. Is this
correct?

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Date: 19 Jun 97 14:06:15 EDT
From: "Jeffrey B. Aronson" <76255.2146@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Events at the Downeast Rally

I've received a number of phone calls about the Downeast Rally and wanted to
pass along the information I have received this week and earlier.

Friday, June 27 - I'm still planning to welcome anyone who would like to visit
Vinalhaven Island on Friday, and will lead a walking tour of the island. I'll
meet two of the morning boats - 8:45 and 11:15 departure - that leave from the
State Ferry Terminal on Rte 1 in Rockalnd. The adult passenger fare is about
$9.00, less for kids. The ferry service charges extra for bikes. Parking at the
ferry terminal is $3.00 per day. The 15 mile trip across the bay takes 1 hr. 20
minutes. Boats leave the island at 1:00 pm, 2:45, and 4:30 pm. You can buy lunch
on the island or bring food along. If you need further information, e-mail or
call me at 207-863-4557.

Saturday, June 28 - The off road course begins at the Old Massachusetts
Campground in Lincolnville, ME (about 10 minutes in traffic northwest  on Rte. 1
from Camden, 20 minutes  from Rockland, 30 minutes from Owls Head), on Saturday
morning. Mark Letorney and  Mike Hopwood from Rovers North worked with Myles
Murphy and Dwight  Wass, the campground owner, to create an exciting off road
course. 

The cabins are all reserved, but campsites are available and run $19 per might
for 2 people. If you stay at the campground, you do have to pay for the off road
use fee of $10. Otherwise, your cost will be $10 per car. 

They hope to start the off roading between 10-11 pm. Mark Letorney told me that
it will be a great off-road course, with challenging  technical stretches and
some great scenery.

As of 1:30 pm Thursday, Dwight Wass reported to me that since few people had
pregistered and sent it money, Myles Murphy could not give a caterer a head
count. New efforts with the campground to arrange for the catered lunch. This
may settle out differently come next week, and you  can check with the
campground before you depart. Dwight will have snacks and soft drinks for sale
that day. If you want more information, call him at the campgroud at (207)
789-5135.

I have no new information about what might happen on Saturday night. The rally
publicity spoke of a meal at the Whalestooth Pub (as in previous years) on Rte.
1 in Lincolnville at $15 per head - or you can order from the menu. Whatever
happens, it's still a great meeting spot along the ocean. If you want a simple
lobster, there's a great lobster shack restaurant next door. Again, this may
settle out differently by Rally time,

Sunday, June 28th - The Owl's Head Transportation Museum will again be the site
for the Rally day. Their gates will open around 9:00 am. There's no official
charge for Rovers. There will be an exhibit of new Rovers by Land Rover
Scarborough, a Rovers North tent, and the oft-discussed British Bulldog will
have a tent. The Downeast Land Rover Club, based out of Bangor, ME, will have a
table. I've heard that LROA and the LRO Shop will also be present, but I cannot
confirm that information. 

I don't know whether Myles will be present to organize the concentric circle
parking of the Rovers; whatever happens, please follow the lead of volunteers on
parking. Last year, 180 Land Rovers stuffed themselves into the hallowed
grounds. With that many vehicles, they'll need to be some orderliness [what a
strange concept for Land Rovers owners!] to accomodate the numbers.

The Museum's exhibits and airshow (afternoon) will be open and free to all who
enter in Rovers. Food and facilities are available on site.  If you need more
information, call them at 207-594-4418.

You can also get information from the Rovers North Web Site (roversnorth.com)
and their staff (802) 879-0032.

This terrific weekend has faced more than its share of problems this year. Myles
Murphy has worked hard to keep this premier event on target for '97. You owe it
to yourself to participate in this special Land Rover weekend.  Hope to see you
in Maine!

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From: "Chris Weinbeck, Office Logic, Inc." <cmw@tiac.net>
Subject: Waxoyl substitute experiment
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:11:00 -0400

Hello again everyone.

I started to try making my own rust-proofing last night.

Al Richer had passed an old recipe from off the list to me some months =
ago.  Basically the idea is to dissolve about a pound of paraffin in =
about a gallon of mineral spirits and add oil.  So far this hasn't =
yielded the consistency that I want.

I want something that is smooth and soft enough to spray at normal =
spring maintenance temperatures, but which loses a good deal of solvent =
shortly after having been applied so that it solidifies. (without =
killing anything)

Right now the "not quite right" recipe is one part paraffin, two parts =
spirits and one part 40wt by volume.

I'll let the list know if I come up with something just right. (similar =
to Waxoyl)

Chris

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:41:12 -0500
From: mtooze@tan.unl.edu (Marcus Tooze)
Subject: Re: Waxoyl substitute experiment

> Al Richer had passed an old recipe from off the list to me some months ago.  Basically the idea is to dissolve about a pound of paraffin in about a gallon of mineral spirits and add oil.  So far this hasn't yielded the consistency that I want.
> I want something that is smooth and soft enough to spray at normal spring maintenance temperatures, but which loses a good deal of solvent shortly after having been applied so that it solidifies. (without killing anything)
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> I want something that is smooth and soft enough to spray at normal spring maintenance temperatures, but which loses a good deal of solvent shortly after having been applied so that it solidifies. (without killing anything)
> Right now the "not quite right" recipe is one part paraffin, two parts spirits and one part 40wt by volume.

Chris (and others),

Here is a recipe from a Larry Mayo....I had to retype in the message as I only
had a hardcopy. Therefore spelling errors are probably mine!

1 pound parafin wax (grated with cheesegrater...or use the cuisinart heh heh)
1/2 gallon mineral spirits.

Larry notes that it may take up to 2 weeks for the wax to dissolve, but
constant stirring helps (keep a lid on the bucket obviously!).
He says 'generally add as much wax as the spirits
will hold'. Then dump in a couple of pints of mineral oil or motor oil.
If too thick, thin with more mineral spirits.

Marcus

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Date: 19 Jun 97 16:17:01 EDT
From: "Jeffrey B. Aronson" <76255.2146@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Downeast Rally & Murphy's Law

At 3:45 pm this afternoon, Dwight Wass ofthe Old Masschusetts Campground called
me back to correct his earlier statement about parts of the off-road day on
Saturday, June 28.

Basically, I have good news and bad news...

1. Fee - The "bad news" is that, as previously announced, there will be a $10
fee for the off road day, whether you stay at the campground or elsewhere.

2. Lunch - The "good news" is that Myles did arrange for a caterer to provide a
simple fare for lunch, and your $10 fee will cover lunch.

3. Dinner - There will not be a special dinner meal as Myles arranged last year,
but you're encouraged to meet at the Whalestooth Pub for dinner.

I'm transmitting all of this at Dwight's request (he's not on-line), and as
Myles lives nearby to the campground, Dwight has spoken to Myles for this latest
update. See you in Maine.

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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:36:08 +0200
From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
Subject: Ser 3 Gearbox Questions

You might remember that quite a while back I was worried abut my gearbox
jumping out of second if I decelerate.  Well, I took somebody's advice
and took  a peek at the funny castellated nut on the rear end of the
mainshaft.  It was a bit loose.  I put a new washer and lockwasher in
there and tightened it properly.

AND...I can't get second to jump out anymore.

BUT...I still find it difficult to get it into second early in the
mornings when the beast is still cold.  After 200meters drive it works
fine again for the rest of the day.

Any ideas?  Can I blame it on my clutch?

(I would of course appreciate it if everybody replies that I should not
worry--land rovers does that sort of thing...)

- Iwan Vosloo
( 1975 SIII 88" Diesel )

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