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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.crane.navy.mil>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 18:50:51 -500
Subject: Bangor Maine Area

LR List,
Calling LR owners in or near the Bangor Maine area!

I am interested in seeing a few LRs this summer, when I am up
that way.  There are virtually no LRs near to where I live.  
Mark
PS. If you happen to know of a 2/2A 109 for sale, tell me more!  

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 14:33:12 +0200
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:27:01 -0400
From: Rob Dennis <RobD@UnitedParking.com>
Subject: Re: Gearbox repair

The other possibility is that the 1st/2nd selector is not adjusted
properly. If the fork is not in the correct place on the shaft, it is
possible that the second gear doesn't get fully engaged, and therefore is
much more likely to jump out. Both the detent springs and the selectors can
be adjusted with the box in place, but in order to get to the  selectors
you need to remove the top cover of the transmission, which usually
requires loosening the seat box, and removing the floor panels. If second
gear was replaced, I would bet that you just need to adjust the fork.

At 06:23 PM 6/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> Adrian writes :-
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>Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
>89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.
  
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    |         |         |
    | _ _ ____|____ _ _ |       Rob Dennis
  O |[___|>>>>>>>>>|___]| O     RobD@UnitedParking.com
   \____===_=====_===____/      Atlanta, GA USA
   |oo   |(_)###(_)|   oo|      (404) 875-4537
   |     |   ###   |     |      
   |     | ####### |     |      1972 SerIII 88
   |_____|_#######_|_____|      1996 Discovery
  [_______________________]     1963 MB Unimog 404.1
     EEEI           EEEI

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From: "Naturewatch" <naturewatch@nucleus.com>
Subject: Hercules II
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:41:50 -0600

>From the Canadian Rockies: Hi!  I'm trying to find Nick Baggarley on the
Internet.  Nick is from Los Gatos, California and he bought our LWB Mark
IIA Land-Rover, Hercules II in November 1996.  I believe he is taking it
down to South America soon.  

It will indeed be well travelled, for we took it on a Trans-African
expedition a few years ago - great fun!

So, Nick!  Where are you?  Speak to me!

Marian - email naturewatch@nucleus.com

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:42:13
From: Robert Bell <tradica@netzone.com>
Subject: RE: D90 WOES

It might be the prom chip.
My D90 had the wrong chip in it.
At least thats what they told me.
R  

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:56:12 -0700
From: "Clinton D. Coates" <Clinton_Coates@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: D90 WOes

> Under excelleration I have a "pinging", "knocking" sound.  Almost like I
> was using the wrong octane (I've only used 92+ in it) and you get that
> tapping sound from the manifolds...(valve assembly).  It sound like and
> old Buick....instead of and old Buick design on a NEW engine.

You should see to your vacuum lines and check that the vacuum advance is working. 
  I didn't and ended up doing a head job...

CLinton

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:06:55 -0700
From: "Clinton D. Coates" <Clinton_Coates@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Frame Oiling

Can anyone comment on the suitability of used synthetic oil for
> rusproofing? A friend maintains a fleet of vans that run synthetic oil
> so it's available to me. I think it would migrate better than most of
> the Waxoyl alternatives I've heard mentioned but don't know if there's a
> lot of detergents or anything else I should be worried about. I know it
> won't smell like 90wt but...

noNoNONONONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Don't do it!  Used motor oil is acidic and will cause your frame to rust away to 
nothing!

Clinton

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:26:36 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Bangor Maine Area

At 06:50 PM 6/11/97 -500, Mark Gehlhausen wrote:
:LR List,
:Calling LR owners in or near the Bangor Maine area!
:
:I am interested in seeing a few LRs this summer, when I am up
:that way.  There are virtually no LRs near to where I live.  
:Mark

 Want to see a few Land Rovers, eh?  How about 200 or so on
 display at this year's Owls Head Land Rover Rally on Sunday,
 June 29?  Owls Head is south of Camden, around Rockport and
 Rockland.  For more info, call 207-594-4418.

:PS. If you happen to know of a 2/2A 109 for sale, tell me more!  

 Might be a few of those there also ;)

-Michael

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:17:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: "DAN PRASADARAO, AIR-7.4.1, SECURITY (703)604-2590 X6318"
Subject: D110 SIGHTING

I've been down here in the southern part of the State of Maryland (USA) for
about a month and have only seen two other Land Rovers, a black Disco two
weeks ago and, yesterday, a white D 110.  Both were here on the navy base
at Patuxent River.  Are you on the list?

Dan Prasada-Rao
emailto:prasadaraodp.nimitz@navair.navy.mil
'63 109 station wagon

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:51:00 +0100
From: "Geoffrey Said" <Geoffrey.Said@MAGNET.MT>
Subject: 90 checklist

I am going to buy a 1987 landrover 90 Turbo Diesel.

What have I to inspect and check to be sure that the machine is in sound 
condition?

Geoffrey

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:03:11 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Downeast Rally

At 11:51 AM 6/12/97 -0400, Chris Browne <chrisbrowne@minet.com> wrote:
:  
:     Haven't seen the registration packet yet for this years event. 
:     
:     Has anyone on the list received theirs?

 Ooops!  Seems that Myles Murphy's phone 207-789-5303 has been
 disconnected with no referral number.

 The Land Rover Owners' Association (LROA), as co-sponsors of the
 Owls Head Land Rover Rally and Air Show, we can state that the Sunday,
 June 29, event at the Owls Head Transportation Museum is still on!!
 Owls Head is on the coast road a few miles south of Camden, Maine.
 This is a free event and *all* makes of Land Rovers are invited to
 show and participate.  Come early!

-Michael Carradine
 VP, LROA

 Tel/Fax 510-988-0900  

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 13:15:45 -0500
From: hansonpa@mail.milwaukee.k12.wi.us (Paul Hanson)
Subject: Oil Filter brands + numbers?

        I have a 2.25 Diesel and would like to know if there are any brand
name "long-type" paper oil filters available.  Any information would be
appreciated.
        Thank you in advance!
        Paul Hanson

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From: Brian Tuffs <btuffs@norcen.com>
Subject: Thrust Bearing
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:55:00 -0600

Hi all !
	Does anyone have a x-over parts number for the clutch thrust bearing
for a SIII ? (Timken, Koyo - something I may be able to get locally in
Canada?). All id numbers are worn off mine so I can't quote anything to
the bearing shop ! The engines all rebuilt and I'd like to get it in
this w/end & felt I should replace the thrust bearing seen as I was in
there. 
	Thanks in advance for any replies.

Brian Tuffs
'66 SWB "Blue" (soon to be mobile again?)
'84 T*yota BJ60 "Toyah"

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:45:33 -0700
From: Greg Moore <gmoore@island.net>
Subject: Re: Frame Oiling

Clinton D. Coates wrote:

> Don't do it!  Used motor oil is acidic and will cause your frame to rust away to
> nothing!
> Clinton

Thanks for the heads up Clinton.

Cheers, Greg

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:44:43 -0500
From: mtooze@tan.unl.edu (Marcus Tooze)
Subject: Joseph in NC?

I just talked with a guy called Joseph in NC who is selling imported
rovers. He seemed OK, and prices were reasonable (as reasonable as they
can be w/out seeing the truck!). Just wondered if anybody on the list has
had experience buying from him?

Marcus

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From: WJMcD@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:08:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 24 volts...

You're kiddin'. Right?

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:11:07 -0500
From: Wesley Harris <wharris@infowks.com>
Subject: BH welding $

Rover-folk:

I have an offer to repair my sieve-like bulkhead for $300.  I'm supplying
the replacement footwells/doorpost bottoms.  Is this price reasonable?
Outlandish? I wish I knew how to weld!! Anyone who has gone through similar
bulkhead surgery - I'd like to hear what your experiences were.

Ta,
Wes Harris
'66 IIA 88"

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Date: 12 Jun 97 20:30:02 EDT
From: Steve Rochna <75347.452@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: wheels, wheels, wheels

Hi All:

Does anyone out there have a good source for 16" wheels that I can use on my '72
88"?  I'm coming up on time to buy tires and would like the larger wheels before
I do so.  Any experience with this?

Thanks.

Steve Rochna
Va Beach, Va.

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:05:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Temporary LR Importation to US?

I've been away for a while, but the answer is YES, you can import any vehicle
to the US on a temporary basis, PROVIDED that it does leave the country after
the (whatever it is) time that it is allowed here, has elapsed, and that it
remains registered in the country that it comes from (it can't be registered
here after it arrives, unless it complies with Federal, and State regs). As
far as Customs is concerned, so long as there's documentation that it does
leave, they're happy.

As for LRNA...they don't seem to want anything here, that they didn't sell
here, so don't expect an honest answer from them.

Charles

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:40:16 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: Temporary LR Importation to US?

LROI carried a 2-part story about a Tdi 110 shipped from the UK for a 
(temporary) US jaunt - issues Aug & Sept 94.

Allan Smith
Caribbean Natural Resources Institute
Vieux Fort
St. Lucia, West Indies.
Tel +(758) 454 6060
Fax +(758) 454 5188

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:17:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: scooper@scooper.seanet.com (John & Sandy Cooper)
Subject: 109 in Idaho

There is a 109 5 door with safari top and rack in Idaho.  Person wants to
sell it for 9,700.   

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From: "Bruce Davis" <daviscar@concentric.net>
Subject: Need help finding something not LR
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:52:12 -0500

Hi All 

I am looking for a picture of a old trailer. 1959 trailer the brand name is
J. C. Higgins.
It has four compartments two on each side it is made much like the LR's as
it too is mostly aluminum. It is a "tent camper" type of trailer. If anyone
know of a photo of this camper PLEASE E-mail me.
 Daviscar@concentric.net

Why someone will ask because I just bought one with no canvas and think it
is just to cool for words. I would like to use it as a camper not just a
trailer.

Thanks for the help.

Bruce  Davis     in Chicago 

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:13:56 -0700
From: Thomas Spoto <tspoto@az.com>
Subject: Re: Need help finding something not LR

Bruce Davis wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> Hi All
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> Thanks for the help.
> Bruce  Davis     in Chicago

If memory serves me J.C.Higgins was a Sears Roebuck brand. You might try
looking up a copy of their catalog from that year. Used book store etc.

Tom Spoto

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 23:24:50 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: "Temporary" importation

Jeremy Bartlett write with a question about "temporarily" importing a 
diesel. One of the chaps in the club has done just that, but the fact that 
he is a diplomat with the South African embassy might have made it easier.  
At the Mid-Atlantic Rally last year, that TDi 110 sure attracted a lot of 
lustful attention.  He had to post a guard at night. ;-)

I have heard of others bringing in TDi's while on visas.  There was one 
retired engineer from Solihull who was making his way around the world in 
his 110 TDi.  Portsmouth was his port of entry, and he planned to stay in 
the US for six months and exit via Alaska.  I met him his first day in town. 
 If you are on a visa - and will export the vehicle at a later date - I 
don't think there is any problem.  We've certainly seen enough British army 
vehicles tooling about.... (Norfolk is NATO headquarters)  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 23:24:43 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Hub woes

Chris Zeigler wrote:

>I have just replaced all of the hub oil seals...packed the bearings and the 
>hub.  The problem I am now having is a strange noise...low-pitched rumbling.
>Is there any type of adjustment that has to be done when reassembling the 
>hub?

Yes.  Properly termed end-float or run-out.  It is the tightness that the 
inner nut presses on the outer hub bearing.  If you greased the bearings up 
real well, and then tightened the nut down, once the excess grease worked 
out, the bearings would then be loose and a possible source of the rumbling. 
There is a "book value" for the run-out using a dial guage, but after 
200,000 miles and innumerable hub jobs, I have just developed a 'feel' for 
it.  I've found that after greasing the hub, reassembling it ans spinning it 
quite a lot to 'settle' the grease, finger tight for the inner nut than 
backed off ever so slightly is just fine.  The outer one - the lock nut - 
get cranked tight.  However, if the inner one got granked, the it's too 
tight and you're binding on the bearings...another possible source for the 
noise. 

After every long run, make it a habit to feel the hubs.  When one feels warm 
(or hot), you know it's time for grease.
Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 23:24:47 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: A Waxoyling we shall go

Andy Blackley wrote:

>I bought a "professional rustproof kit" from JC Whitney...The good/bad 
>news is that it really lays the stuff down which will quickly exhaust
>your supply....

Indeed.  A good bit of kit.  (Throw the undercoating that comes with it 
away.)  I've found that if you heat the Waxoyl up in a sink of hot water (or 
the microwave) especially in the winter, it does an excellent job without 
thinning...but you gotta watch the coverage.  I goes on *real* thick.  I've 
found that diesel, keroor or heating oil also works well to cut Waxoyl, 
though Varsol (mineral spirits) is the best...petrol turns it into a 
passable flame thrower.

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 02:01:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Need help finding something not LR

Bruce...

Call Sears, Robuck & Co.

J.C. Higgins was one of their brand names in the 1950's. It was definately
made by somebody else, and if you call their customer service/parts info
line, they can give you some kind of info on it, or give you a number of who
can help you.

I know this, because my dad bought a shotgun from them in 1959, and it has a
broken stock. It has the Higgins name on it, and I called Sears, and they
gave me the number of the folks that STILL carry parts for it!

Charles

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From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com>
Subject: Re: Frame Oiling
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 08:29:00 PDT

If this was true there would be no chassis left around the engine of my 110, 
rather than rusting away to nothing this is the best preserved part of the 
chassis.

Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT (with self oiling chassis)
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From: Clinton D. Coates
Subject: Re: Frame Oiling
Date: 12 June 1997 09:06

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

Can anyone comment on the suitability of used synthetic oil for
> rusproofing? A friend maintains a fleet of vans that run synthetic oil
> so it's available to me. I think it would migrate better than most of
> the Waxoyl alternatives I've heard mentioned but don't know if there's a
> lot of detergents or anything else I should be worried about. I know it
> won't smell like 90wt but...
noNoNONONONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Don't do it!  Used motor oil is acidic and will cause your frame to rust 
away
to
nothing!

Clinton

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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 03:41:50 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Front Wings

Do Defender front wings fit Series Rovers?  Are they a diret bolt-on? Or
do they need to be modified?

David L Glaser
'94 La Ruta Maya Discovey #6
'94 Discovery, Teal

"1 out of every 4 Americans are mentaly unstable.  Take a look at your 3
closest friends, if they're normal, your the one."

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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 04:02:05 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: "Temporary" importation

>One of the chaps in the club has done just that, but the fact that
> he is a diplomat with the South African embassy might have made it >easier. At the Mid-Atlantic Rally last year, that TDi 110 sure >attracted a lot of lustful attention.  He had to post a guard at night. >;-)

Unless I'm talking about a different S.A. Diplomat, its a 1986 V8 110,
not a Tdi.  

If your not an American citizen, its very easy to temoprarily bring in a
vehicle.  Last year in Long Island I met 2 Swiss college students
driving around in a blue diesel 110.  Are you guys on the list?

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From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com>
Subject: RE: 90 checklist
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 09:07:00 PDT

Check the chassis for rust, rear crossmember and the outriggers are probably 
the most likely areas.
Check the bulkhead for rust: round the windscreen hinges, below the vents 
and at the bottom of the A pillars.
Bodywork shouldn't be too bad but check the bottom of the doors, the steel 
frame can rust like buggery.
To check the transmission drive it in all gears Hi and Lo box and make sure 
the diff locks and unlocks easily.
The turbo diesel isn't the strongest engine ever, my friend's needed 
replaced at only 95,000 miles. Have a look at the air filter for signs of 
oil contamination; if it's oily or brand new be suspicious.

Hope this helps.

Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT
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From: Geoffrey Said
Subject: 90 checklist
Date: 12 June 1997 17:51

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

I am going to buy a 1987 landrover 90 Turbo Diesel.

What have I to inspect and check to be sure that the machine is in sound
condition?

Geoffrey

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