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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 97 7:03:49 EDT

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 07:04:05 -0400
Subject: Where's the git that mentioned universal joints? 8*)

Well, Nigel has struck again...

I got home yesterday evening and decided to crawl under Mr. Churchill with
a grease gun and hit up the lube fittings (something  do about every oil
change or so).

Lo and behold, my front propshaft has a missing grease fitting, and that
U-joint has 1/4" of play in it..... damn.

Thankfully, I had a spare shaft, which after a boot replacement and a lube
job plugged into the space vacated by the old one in short order.

Doesn't vibrate any more with the hubs locked - wonder why? 8*)

          aj"I won't mention the leaking cluch slave I found...8*)"r

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 07:07:38 +0000
From: MALCOLMF <MALCOLMF@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 2.25 Red Line

Jim Allen wrote:

> 4250 rpm. With a stock engine, anything beyond is a waste of time 
>         Jim Allen

How many MPH is 4250 rpm in the different gears?

Malcolm (no-tach) Forbes

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From: "Tackley, John" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Subject: console
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 07:27:07 -0400

I use one that I got last summer at Price Costco for $38.  It's black, 
sits nicely on the center seat and can be easily secured with the 
center seat belt.  Nice cubby with padded cover just the right height 
for an armrest and 2 drink holders.  Trays and such for coins and 
sunglasses inside.  I don't remember how I managed without it.  They 
still carry it.  No interference with the OD lever, however you do 
have to reach around a little.  I use it to store lots of stuff, most 
notably my stereo system.
This system is extremely high tech.  No costs were spared to put 
together a system that could actually be heard in a Series truck.
Gotta $20 dolla Walkman, w/ cassette, and a $20 dolla Boostaroo box 
from WalMart that allows multiple headphones to be connected to the 
Walkman.  Wanna keep the passengers happy and groovin too.  Best 
feature is the high tech part, a pair of Noise Cancelling headphones 
from Noise Cancellation Technologies (203) 961-0500, called 
:Noisebuster Extreme".  I got mine from Brookstone mail order for $69, 
(800-846-3000), but Sharper Image also carries them (800-344-4444).
These babies really work well.  They have a control box coupled to 2 
tiny microphones in each earphone that monitors ambient sound at your 
ears.  It then sends an exact opposite amplitude signal, effectively 
"cancelling" the ambient noise by as much as 15db.  Imagine driving a 
Series truck at 65 mph and NOT hearing it ?
I'm here to tell ya that ya can spend many hundreds for a high power 
system, 8 speakers and STILL not hear your tunes as well as with these 
headphones.  And NO I don't have anything to gain here by the 
endorsement, and I only endorse what I use and really like.  If you 
miss your tunes while driving the greatest 4x4 on earth and already 
have a walkman, treat yourself to these.

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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 12:41:44 +0100 (BST)
From: Tom Peacey <tom.peacey@service.britgas.co.uk>
Subject: Kinetic suspension

Hello,

I remember reading about Kinetic suspension in LROI ages
ago.  Is it still around?  It was supposed to be available
in 1996 I think.  Is it actually commercially available?
It seemed very impressive in the article.

Tom.

'95 Disco V8
 _____
 [][][\__      /
 |^----^-|    /
 (o)  (o) ,,,/

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From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 08:08:11 -0400
Subject: Getting Framed

     I'm one of the folks with an extra 109 frame.  The problem is that 
     it's so sound that I'm not sure I want to part with it. I gave 1st 
     refusal to one Steve Stoneham some months back.  It is currently 
     located in Virginia, still undergoing transfer of upperworks to the 
     new galv frame..
     
     Hank

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From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 08:40:31 -0400
Subject: Series Rivets, etc.

     Based on info from the list some months back, I recently placed an 
     order for rivets from Wadsworth Panels in England.  Even though their 
     post code wasn't on the web, and so not on the envelope, it was only 
     11 calendar days between mailing my order and receiving the goods.  I 
     recomment them, especially to Series I owners, as they seem to 
     specialize in S-I.  They have much more than just rivets.
     
     Anyway, the current info for these nice folks is:
     Wadsworth Panels
     Steele Lane
     Barkisland
     Halifax
     England  HX4 0ER
     
     Tel/Fax 01422 822200
     
     They don't take plastic, so a checque in pounds Sterling will be 
     required.
     
     Hank (No connection to Wadsworth Panels, etc.) 

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From: "Shaun Fisher" <fishers@natburo.kzntl.gov.za>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 15:02:28 +0000
Subject: RE: Not starting in the cold

> Get the beastie compression tested. My friends 110 TD had starting problems 
> with the onset of winter, a compression test showed a catastrophic loss of 
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 7 lines)]
> Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT
>  ----------
My engine has just been reconditioned

Shaun Fisher
SERIES IIA BOOZMOBILE

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From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 09:00:08 -0400
Subject: New LR Toy

     All,
     
     Picked up a couple new ones the other day.  Defender 90, estimated +/- 
     1/32 scale, with pull-string on back to wind up the friction motor 
     which drives the rear wheels.  Avail in Green or yellow.  Pre-97 as it 
     has rectangular tail lights and gray (plastic) hardtop.  Made in 
     China, so only 4.99 each.  Forgot the make (not a collector, so boys 
     tore them open and disposed of packaging), but comes in a hanging 
     bubble package.  Also available from same outfit -- J**ps, etc.   At 
     MJDesigns if you're in Wash/Balto area.
     
     Hank

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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 08:37:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ray Harder <ccray@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: console

john, this excited me so much that i printed it off.  i have
thought long and hard about the series radio problem but have
yet failed to act.  too many little things including
converting to negative earth and ambient noise.  does your
stereo rig run off of the aaa batteries of the componets?  
-- i'm thinking it should...

for the record, one other thing i have thought long and hard
about is the xmas tree lites but the cost of the inverter has
stalled me there...

oh, as i keyed this in, i was reminded of three other things
that i have been thinking/doing-nothing about -- better sign off...

ray harder -- 61 siia 88 (lulu)

On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Tackley, John wrote:

> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 07:27:07 -0400
> From: "Tackley, John" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 40 lines)]
> miss your tunes while driving the greatest 4x4 on earth and already 
> have a walkman, treat yourself to these.

Sincerely,

Ray Harder 

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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 06:52:18 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: 2.25 Red Line

>New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
>Jim Allen wrote:
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
>How many MPH is 4250 rpm in the different gears?
>Malcolm (no-tach) Forbes

Malcolm,

        Thought you were dead. How about a comp subscription to the magazine?
Seriously, my stock 2A and S3 couldn't quite pull 4250 wide open in fourth
when they topped out at about 72mph.
        How about I give you the formulas and let you figure it out on your own?

        The basic gearing vs rpm formula is this:

        MPH X GEAR RATIO X 336
       _______________________   = RPM
        TIRE DIAMETER (INCHES)

        Normally, you would put the axle ratio in the "GEAR RATIO" area
because that what your final drive in fourth gear, 1-1 ratio. Land Rovers
use a stepped down high range ratio and you have to factor that in, so the
4.77 (axle ratio) times 1.14 (high range ratio) = 4.18 actual ratio.
        If you want to figure your rpms in a given gear, you find the ratio
of that gear, then multiply it by the transfer ratio and the axle ratio.

3.02 (1st gear) X 1.14 (transfer) X 4.77 (axle)= 17.4

        Okay, so you plug that into the formula.

        25(MPH) X 17.4 X 336
        ____________________ = 4497rpm
               32.5 (inches)

        So at 25mph in first high range you be turning a whopping 4497 rpm
and probably regretting it later.

        Have fun!!

        Jim Allen

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From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com>
Subject: RE: Not starting in the cold
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 97 14:45:00 PDT

Well if the compression is fine and the glow plugs are working to get the 
initial heat and the injectors are working to get the diesel in there then 
there isn't much left to check :-(

Air filter? (but the 2.25 has the oil bath which can't clog up doesn't it?)

How cold are we talking?

Does it start at all? If so how well does it run once started?

Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT (clutching at straws and bamboozled)
 ----------
From: Shaun Fisher
Subject: RE: Not starting in the cold
Date: 04 June 1997 15:02

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

> Get the beastie compression tested. My friends 110 TD had starting 
problems
> with the onset of winter, a compression test showed a catastrophic loss of 

         [ truncated by lro-lite (was 7 lines)]
> Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT
>  ----------

My engine has just been reconditioned

Shaun Fisher
SERIES IIA BOOZMOBILE

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 11:07:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: wiper motor

Dave: I dont have a motor specifically from a LR, but the Lucas wiper motor
from an MGB should work. They flexible wiper rack cable may be a different
length, so may have to reuse the old one. I believe that the wiper wheel
boxes are also the same.  You can either find them in a bone yard (any year
MGB) or order new  from Moss or Victoria British etc. PS MGB 10" wiper blades
also fit, but the arms are different as I recollect. Cheers. Andy Blackley

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From: CAPTPAYNE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 11:20:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: D90 Soft top & Bikini top for sale

Buying a hard top for the 94D90 and will no longer need the soft tops.   Have
one
used "95 full soft top by Bestop,(belt rail type).  Good condition; no tears
and very 
mild scratches on side windows.  $450 U.S.   Also have one bikini top, new in
box.
$120 U.S.

Don Payne
captpayne@aol.com
501-851-6722
No. Little Rock,AR,  

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.Cyanamid.COM>
Subject: Nige will get ya
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 97 11:23:41 EDT

OK folks, I've been hearing rumblings about the whereabouts
of Nigel and the derivation of "Nigel's Disease."  Seems 
yer all having problems of one sort or another.....

Methinks Sandy Grice correctly identified the historical
events that led to the claim that dear ol' Nige can
transmit, though thin air, his ailments (recent and near
future) to any or all series rigs out there with whom
he confides without the knowledge or consent of said
rigs' owners.  (Incidentally, though, it gets worse-
he recently tranmitted an electrical ailment to my...
uh, shouldn't admit it, but ...BMW.....thus I would
caution you all that NO car, truck, or trailer is immune
to his ways.  I think motorcycles are OK, but can't say
for sure since my 19 year old 2-stroke has sat
neglected for some time now.)

Anyway, I thought that perhaps it would be prudent of me
to submit to this list for general review a list of those
ailments which have recently been detected and/or corrected
and/or soon to be corrected and/or just being let be....
(I'm generally of the opinion that if I couldn't fix something
the first time, I'll try again, but after two, maybe three
attempts, any non-life threatening ailments should just be
left alone....)

These, within the last few months:

Clutch slave flakyness (not addressed yet, intermittant)
Brake master problems (rebuilt, bled, rebled, rerebled, fixed by
		       adjusting the brakes....)
R/S tail lamp socket degredation (replaced w/universal unit,
		       problem reappeared on BMW R/S front
		       running lamp within a day)
Clogged rear axle breather (FINALLY replaced with fittings and
		       hoses running to the air cleaner)
Serious leaks from OD unit (my next problem, I suspect it ain't 
		       breathin')
Serious leaks from gas tank (repaired in March, time to try
		       again-tank is in fine shape but appears
		       to be leaking from a seam)
Completely blown out rear diff pinion seal (replaced with a nice
		       old style leather one)
Blown rear U joint in rear propshaft (replaced both rear U joints,
		       front shaft new 2 years ago)
Splitting rear leaf springs (5 year old "genuine" pieces of shit,
		       getting replaced, hopefully tonight, with a
		       perfectly acceptable pair of ORIGINAL
		       equipment re-bushed springs)
Leaky carb (adds to the fragrance!)
Loud squeels from blower motor fan in Smith's shin burner heater
		       (fixed last Novemeber, and this November is
		       a long way off...)
Oil pressure sending unit leak (replaced with a kharma insulting
		       SIII type)
Leaky front swivel ball seals (replaced twice within the past
		       four years....given up)
Dropped muffler (happened on the way to a car wash....shame on me...
		       replaced)
Noises diagnosed as loose timing chain (replaced perfectly sound
		       timing chain, idler gear, crank end gear,
		       and cam gear)
Noises re-diaganosed as a loose muffler headpipe (hey, it was
		       *barely* loose....tightened just enough
		       to strip the threads....)
Flakey speedo needle (fun to watch, but has hypnotic qualities)

OK, that's the short list.  If any or all of you are experiencing
any or all of these ailments in your rides, I gotta tell ya that
there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.  I've tried.  I've
tried everything.  Had the boy exorcised.  Leave smoldering spices
-especially nutmeg-beneath him at night.  Got drunk with him and
pushed him off a bridge (he swam back).  Sentenced him to two 
weekends of hard labor dredging a pond.  Let him get friendly with
a big black snake.  Took him trout fishing. Nothin' seems to make 
him happy.

sorry, mates,
rd/nige

ps CC dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com on replies as I'm not on the list.

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From: Tony Treace <atreace@HASimons.com>
Subject: RE: Series Rivets, etc.
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 08:31:56 -0700

>      They don't take plastic, so a checque in pounds Sterling will be 
>      required.
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 6 lines)]
>      What's the best way to accomplish this, on this side of the
> Atlantic?
	     I just closed the deal on a 1951 80" Series 1, and I expect
to be doing business with Wadsworth and some of the smaller
'specialty' suppliers in the UK in the very near future.

	     Thanks,

	     Tony Treace
	     atreace@hasimons.com

	     1966 109 SW
	     1951 80 Hardtop 

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Nige will get ya
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 09:37:03 -0600 (MDT)

Nige's owner pops out of the woodwork to confess he is still jinxing the 
list and everybody else...

But, refresh my memory:  wasn't it Nige who introduced you to Brooke 
Shields?  There's a price to pay, fershure, but ...

T. F. Mills
tomills@du.edu                               University of Denver Library
http://www.du.edu/~tomills                          Denver  CO 80208  USA

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 07:34:52 -0700
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Series Rivets, etc.

Tony Treace wrote:
> snip
>              I just closed the deal on a 1951 80" Series 1, and I expect
> to be doing business with Wadsworth and some of the smaller
> 'specialty' suppliers in the UK in the very near future.

How serendipitous,  I shall shortly have 2 S1 80"s and will be picking up a
shipment including a couple of Wadsworth panels in a week or so.  I have
a general question on the rivets being discussed.

What is the best way for a do-it-yourselfer to install the round head rivets?

I need to remove the trim off one 80"  (Winston) for regalvanizing and will,
obviously, need to rerivet it.  I'd prefer to use round head rather than snap
rivets to maintian the original appearance.

cheers,

Jeremy

P.S.  Tony, where did you find the '51?

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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 11:51:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Nige will get ya

On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Russell G. Dushin wrote:

> Anyway, I thought that perhaps it would be prudent of me
> to submit to this list for general review a list of those
> ailments which have recently been detected and/or corrected
> and/or soon to be corrected and/or just being let be....

	And Nigel will be at the OVLR Birthday Party...  Is there some
kind of immunising shot we can have for this?  Nigel infects at distances
of hundred's, nay, thousands of miles, over wires, through the ether...

	Imagine the devastation at 50 yards!

	Of course we can offer up a sacrificial vehicle... Spencer
Norcross's 88 should do.  Spenny would never notice the difference anyway
if badly infected... :-)

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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 09:35:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Kinetic suspension

Tom asked:

>I remember reading about Kinetic suspension in LROI ages
>ago.  Is it still around?  It was supposed to be available
>in 1996 I think.  Is it actually commercially available?
>It seemed very impressive in the article.

I know someone who was trying to get either Kinetic or Fielder suspension
for a Land Rover related project recently (about December) and both were
still under development and not yet available, even to a small manufacturer,
at that time.

I know I really, really want one or the other!!

Granny

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.Cyanamid.COM>
Subject: Re: Nige will get ya (fwd)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 97 12:52:50 EDT

> Nige's owner pops out of the woodwork to confess he is still jinxing the 
> list and everybody else...
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 6 lines)]
> But, refresh my memory:  wasn't it Nige who introduced you to Brooke 
> Shields?  There's a price to pay, fershure, but ...

Hiya Todd-

Yeah, he did.  Nige and Brooke are buds.  Nige had his "disorders"
well before that, though.

rd/nige

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: REinstalling galv. trim on rear tub
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:57:19 +0000

     Has anyone re-installed the galvanized cappings on top of the  tub
using the origional style rivits??? 
Please e-mail me directly
Thanks
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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From: Tony Treace <atreace@HASimons.com>
Subject: RE: Series Rivets, etc.
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 10:10:46 -0700

> How serendipitous,  I shall shortly have 2 S1 80"s and will be picking
> up a
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 6 lines)]
> have
> a general question on the rivets being discussed.
	My original question, which was somehow ' truncated by lro-lite
', was:

	What's the best way to obtain/send a check paid in pounds
Sterling?
	How did you pay Wadsworth?

> P.S.  Tony, where did you find the '51?
> up a
E-mail me at: atreace@hasimons.com  and I'll tell you.

BTW, do you know Bob Bernard? He had mentioned someone named Jeremy that
had an 80".

Tony

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 19:38:27 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: 2.25 Red Line

MALCOLMF wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> Jim Allen wrote:
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
> How many MPH is 4250 rpm in the different gears?
> Malcolm (no-tach) Forbes
as far as I know 4250 rpm is the equivalent of 72 k.p.h. in 3rd gear on
the flat.
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 13:51:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Nige will get ya

In a message dated 6/4/97 1:23:31 PM, you wrote:

>OK folks, I've been hearing rumblings about the whereabouts
>of Nigel and the derivation of "Nigel's Disease."  Seems 
>yer all having problems of one sort or another.....

[Snip]
>(Incidentally, though, it gets worse-
>he recently tranmitted an electrical ailment to my...
>uh, shouldn't admit it, but ...BMW.....thus I would
>caution you all that NO car, truck, or trailer is immune
>to his ways. 

So, Nigel's is finally being transmitted to BMWs... I wonder if BMW
management knew about Nigel's Disease *before* they purchased LR? Now all
their vehicles are susceptible... 

pat
93  110

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 10:01:42 -0700
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Series Rivets, etc.

Tony Treace wrote:
> snip
>         What's the best way to obtain/send a check paid in pounds
> Sterling? How did you pay Wadsworth?

I had a 3rd party (Dingocroft) include the Wadsworth panels in with 
an order of other parts.  They, incidentally "take plastic".

WRT checks in pound sterling, I'd use an international money order.
It's been a long time since I've used one though.  I'd check with the
bank on it.

cheers,

Jeremy

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 04 Jun 97 11:22:22 MST
Subject: Off roading in Phoenix

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
Ian asks about off-roading in Phoenix...

There are NUMEROUS trails and places to go all over Arizona, and many in
the Phoenix area as well. I have a book that shows many of the trails
and all the state forest roads that I'd be happy to show you when you
get here.

PLEASE let me ("us all" in Arizona) know when you get here. There's even
an "Arizona" LR list - a spin-off of the LR e-mail list. There are some
VERY kind and hospitable people here, and I am POSITIVE that many will
want to go off roading with you.

My work phone number is 1.602.236-3544 and my home number is
1.602.820.8052 but I will probably be moving before then, and may have a
different home number depending on where I move.

Looking forward to seeing you when you get here!

Dave Brown - Phoenix Arizona USA 602.820.8052 Pager: 602.275.2508 #6486
offering: Books, tools, knowledge, lodging, coffee, shoulder to cry on...
 #=====#           1971 "88" IIa - "Simba"
 |___|__\___       LIC: LION B8
 | _ |   |_ |}     Just your basic trail beast.
 "(_)""""(_)"
 Other-          1970 "109" IIa        '87 Range Rover   4.6L engine ordered!
      /          Historic plates        rear Lock-Right  Bilstein shocks
      -Rovers    "Shake-n-bake"         Crane cam        Optima battery
                 aka: Shake-n-break,    OME HD springs   SSB CB radio
           & other terms of endearment  6 Hella lights   Flowmaster muffler

I count him braver who overcomes     #=======#         _____l___
his desires than him who conquers    |__|__|__\___    //__/__|__\___
his enemies; for the hardest victory | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ - _|}
is the victory over self. -Aristotle "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 14:52:27 -0400
From: Keith Mohlenhoff <krm@nj.paradyne.com>
Subject: 1970s Whisky advertisement - Not Exactly LR Content

Hello;
In the 1970s, a whisky company ran an ad campain which featured dropping cases of the whisky into
remote parts of ??????. That's the problem. I don't remember where the goods were dropped and who
the manufacturer was and if the goods were ever recovered. Searched on the web, no luck.
If anybody has any information I would love to hear it.

I have no intention of using this as an excuse to organize an expedition to search for the Grail;^)

Keith R. Mohlenhoff
1962 IIA 2.25D Safari
1971 IIA 2.25P HT

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From: "Zeigler, Christopher L." <zeiglecl@Maritz.com>
Subject: Pinion oil seal
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 11:37:02 -0500

I have just recently acquired my first Land-Rover, a SIII 88 and I am
planing to replace the rear pinion oil seal.  I have never done this
before and would appreciate some pointers or tips.  Is this a relatively
easy task?  What other parts should I get besides the oil seal?  I have
read other posts about the correct orientation of the seal (lips toward
the diff) but I am still a little puzzled, is there a retaining ring or
something like that?  I have the original shop manual but it is not very
clear to me, maybe I am looking in the wrong place.  Any suggestions
before I start?  Is there anywhere I can look to find detailed
instructions?
Thanks,
Chris

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 17:14:12 -0700
From: Steve Stoneham <stoneham@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Need Wiper motor pronto

dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> Hey does anybody have a functioning late late IIa or SIII wiper motor?
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 6 lines)]
> Hey does anybody have a functioning late late IIa or SIII wiper motor?
> I need one

I have one here if your interested.
Regards,
Steve

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Date: 04 Jun 97 18:17:47 EDT
From: "Jeffrey B. Aronson" <76255.2146@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Coming to Downeast Rally?

If you're planning on attending the Downeast Rally in Maine at the end of this
month, I have a couple of suggestions if you or your significant other chooses
not to camp. Living on an island and working around northern New England
requires plenty of motel room time. Ask for the "Jeffrey Aronson Bedroom."

1. Navigator Motor Inn, Main St., Rockland. Close to Owl's Head, local
restaurants and bars. Reasonably priced for the summer season (207-594-2131).

2. Old Granite Inn, Main St., Rockland. Very comfortable, stylish, B&B with huge
breakfasts, big rooms, and some great views. Pricier but you'll earn points (if
you need them) for your sense of style and asthetics. Near everything important
for the weekend.

It looks like that, once again, it should be a fun weekend. 

Jeff Aronson
Vinalhaven, Maine  04863
'66 Series II-A 88" SW
'78 Triumph Spitfire

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 12:00:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Nige will get ya

Dixon suggests we use a sacrificial goat, so to speak.

I was actually thinking of Bill Maloney's 88 - a sacrificial sheep, so to
speak.

It works out for everyone - Nige gets somebody to puke on, and Bill get
something to do to while away his time.

A win-win situation, so to speak.

Either that one or jeff berg's - then we can all get some amusement out of
reading about it on the Empire site later.

                    aj"But not Churchill - I have enough problems!"r

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From: Land_Rovers@learnlink.emory.edu (Jack Walter)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 18:50:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Values on used Range Rovers

87 Range Rovers (with a few more miles on them) can be had in the
Atlanta area for around $8500 if you are willing to shop around. Be
sure to inspect the front inner wings, upper tailgate and rear splash
guards for signs of corrosion. $10,000 should buy an 89 or maybe even a
90 model if you're any good at browbeating the sales staff. Sometimes
if you deal with a car lot that buys a lot of "high-line" vehicles at
auction you can get them to work with you and turn a quick but modest
profit on a vehicle - most lots love it when they have a buyer already
on the hook for a vehicle that will only be on their books for a day or
two. most of us would be really upset if we found out what you can
really buy a Range Rover for! Quite a few of these beasts seem to go
through the Orlando, Florida auction and Range Rovers have
traditionally depreciated like rocks so used ones can be picked up
relatively cheaply compared to some of the competition. Cheapest that
I've seen an 87 that was not completely trashed sell for was $6500 - It
was tempting to get that one for a "Trail Truck" and really test the
off road abilities of the Range Rover.

Jack Walter

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From: Land_Rovers@learnlink.emory.edu (Steve Dempsey)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 20:06:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Tuffy boxes in series

I installed a 10" in my series III(12" will fit with no problems). I
used 4" allthread bolts in the front and the jeep elevation bracket in
the rear. I removed the center cover , marked everything and mounted
the bolts to the cover. I reinstalled the cover and used  4 nuts as
levelers then I put 4 more nuts inside the console. I can remove the
cover and console if I need to adjust the parking brake. I do not have
an overdrive unit. I moved the drink holder over to the right until it
was even with the edge of the console. This allows me the use of 4th
gear.                        

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From: IBEdwardp@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:37:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 1970s Whisky advertisement - Not Exactly LR Content

I believe the whiskey mfgr was Canadian Club.

BTW, has anyone ever heard of using Pam as a substitute for Waxoyl?  I recall
reading several years ago that bicyclists advocated spraying pam into the
interior of their bike frames to prevent rust.  Wadya think?

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From: ASFCO@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Russell Wilson
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 01:42:01 +0000

Russ;
  Please get hold of me directly
I have misplaced your e-mail address.  If anyone has it I would appreciate
it if you would pass it along
Thanks
Rgds
Steve Bradke       96 Discovery
WA2GMC             72 S lll 88 (For Sale)
                   68 S lla 88                 

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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 22:33:27 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: mjcatlin?

Sorry list - tried a direct reply on oil stuff and got it returned. Mike - 
problems with your server?

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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 00:35:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: unsubscribe-list

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From: "Shaun Fisher" <FISHERS@natburo.kzntl.gov.za>
Date:          Thu, 5 Jun 1997 08:14:32 
Subject:       RE: Not starting in the cold

Air filter? (but the 2.25 has the oil bath which can't clog up 
doesn't it?)

How cold are we talking?

Does it start at all? If so how well does it run once started?

Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT (clutching at straws and bamboozled)
 ----------
Yes it does have an oil bath filter. As far as cold, its not very 
cold, about 5 degrees C I would say. When I do get her started she 
runs very well. although I tend to think that the timing might be 
jusy a tad advanced because at high revs it sounds like she has a 
diesel knock. I wonder if this is perhaps the problem.

Shaun Fisher 
SERIES IIA BOOZMOBILE

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Nige will get ya
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 97 8:38:34 BST

> In a message dated 6/4/97 1:23:31 PM, you wrote:
> >OK folks, I've been hearing rumblings about the whereabouts
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 14 lines)]
> management knew about Nigel's Disease *before* they purchased LR? Now all
> their vehicles are susceptible... 

Oh dear - what a shame!  :-)

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From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com>
Subject: RE: 1970s Whisky advertisement - Not Exactly LR Content
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 97 08:51:00 PDT

Believe it was some cheap and nasty grain whisky, memory fails us in the 
office here but we think it was either White Horse or Haigs. In my opinion 
the best use for either of these is as screenwash.

Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT (Mine's a single malt)
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From: Keith Mohlenhoff
Subject: 1970s Whisky advertisement - Not Exactly LR Content
Date: 04 June 1997 14:52

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

Hello;
In the 1970s, a whisky company ran an ad campain which featured dropping
cases of the whisky into
remote parts of ??????. That's the problem. I don't remember where the goods
were dropped and who
the manufacturer was and if the goods were ever recovered. Searched on the
web, no luck.
If anybody has any information I would love to hear it.

I have no intention of using this as an excuse to organize an expedition to
search for the Grail;^)

Keith R. Mohlenhoff
1962 IIA 2.25D Safari
1971 IIA 2.25P HT

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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:37:23 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: RE: Not starting in the cold

 When I do get her started she
>runs very well.

Fools rush in here...:-)
Could it be a "lazy" starter?Are all the electrical connections
clean and bright?The battery in good nick?Does the engine crank
at normal cranking speed,or is it slow?
I realise you've checked the heater plugs,but it may help if you
get the parallel wired replacements.
If it was me,I'd yank the starter and check the state of the
brushgear,and have the battery checked.Of course,you've already
done this......<sigh>:-)
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:40:05 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: RE: Not starting in the cold

>cold, about 5 degrees C I would say. When I do get her started she
>runs very well.
Oh,and further to my last....is the starter motor earthed to the
chassis? That helps,too.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: "Shaun Fisher" <fishers@natburo.kzntl.gov.za>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:51:03 +0000
Subject: RE: Not starting in the cold

Mike 
 
I have done all that you suggest, I have redone the starter, new 
battery. The only thing I have not done is to earth it to the chassis 
I ddid not think this neaded to be done as the starter is earthed 
through the engine. We have a problem getting the parallel glow plugs 
in SA It has been suggested that I use the plugs from the 2.5 TDI but 
I would then have to get a sleave made (very costly).

Shaun Fisher
SERIES IIA BOOZMOBILE 

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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:15:15 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: RE: Not starting in the cold

Shaun,

 The only thing I have not done is to earth it to the chassis
>I ddid not think this neaded to be done as the starter is earthed
>through the engine

Definitely helps.Mine always has had the earth strap,but a friend
of mine had a reluctant engine(rebuilt etc,same as yours).It was
suggested to him he did this,and it transformed the engine.Strap
goes from the yoke bolt on the starter with the nut on the end,
to any convenient(and clean)point on the chassis.
Cheers
Mike

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From: "Shaun Fisher" <fishers@natburo.kzntl.gov.za>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:18:55 +0000
Subject: RE: Not starting in the cold

Mike

Thanks I will try it as soon as I get home from the BRAINDRAIN.

Shaun

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