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From: lroshop@idirect.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 07:15:09 +0000
Subject: Re: CB40 may not be sold in US

>  just like it for around $20K, as does Toyota RAV4 and the
>  new Kia from Korea?

I interviewed the head of Land Rover Canada recently.  He suggests 
that the Freelander (CB40) will never be offered in North America 
because it was never engineered to meet the strict US and Canadian 
safety codes.  The engine is too small to meet market demand and the 
vehicle would be too costly to convert.

Do we believe him? 
LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:33:57 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: CB40 may not be sold in US

.  The engine is too small to meet market demand and the
>vehicle would be too costly to convert.
>Do we believe him?
>LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

Not entirely.Wasnt there something about a larger engine
option being available for the U.S market?
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 97 07:38:37 EST
Subject: Re: Series III U-Joints

>What is a good u-joint replacement? 

Napa 369. or equivalent

DaveB

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:35:43 +0200
Subject: Re: Disco winches
From: vic hanna <vhanna@info.bw>

----------
>From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
>To: Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:47:22 -070
> Adrian Redmond wrote:

>I know that having a big, chunky looking winch on the front of any 4WD
>is highly desirable (probably just as much a matter of appearance as
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 9 lines)]
>resist driving past without helping him out of the gutter - whether the
>portable winch is the better direction in which to go.
Thanks Adrian
I have a winch already mounted on the front and I'm wanting to mount the
second on the rear. Certainly I love the "look" of a chunky winch up front
but, believe me, some of the places we go here in Botswana (sometimes on own
- sans a second vehicle) warrant a winch. When tackling a suspicious looking
track we always keep a look-out for a likely tree to winch from and have
used the existing winch up front to get out of several kinds of trouble.
Case in point - the Central Kalahari Game Reserve recently had amazing rains
with the result that the tracks in the reserve (which incidentally is the
same size as Denmark) turned into muddy, slippery streams. Trees are sparse
- but they are there and, when available, avoid the need to physically walk
the tracks to see if they are passable. When stuck, as was the case on
occasion, the winch helped us out of all sorts of trouble. Another case -
winching out on a buried spare wheel in the middle of Sua Pan which is 120km
long and 80km wide and nothing, but nothing in sight.  So we need a winch -
and a second at the rear would be extremely useful.
    
Vic Hanna
Media Communications
P/Bag BR 26
Broadhurst
Gaborone
Botswana
Tel: +267 302586
Fax: +267 307209

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 07:44:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Series III U-Joints

Dave B mentioned that the NAPA 369 U-joint was a good replacement number.
This is actually the Precision number - NAPA in the US uses it as their
crossover.

It works well either way.

If the parts shop is too dumb to cross it, that same U-joint got used on
every rear-wheel-drive Chevy for many years - just pick a generic mid-60s
Chevy name and have them source that.

Lastly, stay far away from U-joints with no grease fittings. These may be
OK for Grandma's Biscayne wagon, but we need grease fittings to blow out
the gunk that gets in their in our pursuits.

                    aj"Other than that, they're a doddle"r

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From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:27:25 -0400
Subject: Old Movie Sighting

     For those keeping track--
     
     "Gorgo" (1961) Starring Bill Travers
     A number of military Series Is have London buildings fall on them in 
     this Brit answer to Godzilla movies.  The big chunks of buildings are 
     generally seen to bounce off the aluminum bodywork of the 
     aforementioned L-Rs.  No subtitles.
     
     Hank

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 06:01:06 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: CB40 may not be sold in US

 >
>I interviewed the head of Land Rover Canada recently.  He suggests
>that the Freelander (CB40) will never be offered in North America
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 8 lines)]
>Do we believe him?
>LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

To All,

Old News. Though things may change, the "inside" report I got a year ago
was that if, BIG IF, it ever makes it here, it won't be until 2000.

The story I got was that when the project was initiated, LRNA was still in
it's "lets keep the NA market small and exclusive" phase and didn't want
the vehicle and didn't ever forsee any need for it. That was sometime in
the early '90s. Consequently, the necessary features to meet the US
requirements were not engineered in. They now have cause to regret this
decision. The latest is that a version of the CB40 could be built in the
BMW plant down south or in Mexico. either way, it'll probably be a while -
if at all.

        Jim Allen

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Steering and Tyres
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 97 14:07:03 BST

A belated thanks to the replies last week. I've since had that minor puncture
repaired, but the local trye place didn't do tracking, and couldn't shift
the overtightened bolts (no "whizzer" as the guy said). I have my wonders about
how good these guys are - some dodgy dealing with the price. Asked how much
(might be able to pay in cash rather than cheque or card) - "tenner" - only
got five quid - make it five quid then. Hmmm. A dodge against central office,
or a dodge against tax?

Anyway, went to my friendly village garage - a bit further out of the way, but
they seem to know what they're on about. They checked the tracking. This time,
it did indeed need adjusting. They also wizzed round with their wizzer
(they *were* responsible for 1 of the 4 wheels being too tight!).

I'll rotate my wheels before driving to Cambridge next week. If I bring my
rear wheels to the front, I'll be able to check for wear over the return trip.

The other news from the weekend is that, 4wd was working after all!
Oh well, I was taking the front propshaft off anyway (to replace it).

Cheers,

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

 
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> In a message dated 5/28/97 9:19:29 AM, you wrote:
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 18 lines)]
> Or something along those lines. 
> pat
> 93  110

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:10:41 +1000 (EST)
From: Dean Cording <dean@holly.cbr.aspect.com.au>
Subject: 2.25 Red Line

I've just installed a tacho in my petrol 2.25 Series III.  What's an
appropriate value to set the red line (rev limit) at?

Dean

=============================================================================
Dean Cording                                   ASPECT Computing P/L
                                               86 Northbourne Ave
Dean.Cording@aspect.com.au  (Work)             Canberra, ACT, 2601, AUSTRALIA
Dean@holly.aspect.com.au    (Private)          ACN. 005 083 670

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:20:46 -0400
Subject: Re: 2.25 Red Line

4200 RPM is book spec, if my addled wits do not deceive me......

                    ajr

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From: "Steve Irwin" <irwin@fred.ifas.ufl.edu>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:35:37 EST
Subject: Door Top bolts

Hello all-

The bolts fasten my door tops to the bottoms are quite rusty.  One is 
so rusted that it resembles a stalagtite, with absolutley no threads 
visible.  The other three are quite rusty where they exit the frame 
of the dootop.  I can even wiggle one of them about 5 degrees.

Aside from this, the doortops are in quite servicible condition, at 
least till wife gradutes law school, and we have mnore disposable 
income.  Has anybody on the list ever contemplted/succeeded in 
welding on replacement bolts?  If so, I'd sure like some advice.

TIA
Steve Irwin
1973 S3 88

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From: Chuque Henry <ChuqueH@isco.com>
Subject: Leaking gas tank!
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:54:50 -0500

OK, being a new Rover owner I'm not ruling anything out...

I filled it yesterday for the first time.  It clicked off at something
like 10-11 gallons.  I was checking the oil so came around in a bit to
'top her off'.  Well, I continued to do so, adding about another gallon
or more, until it was very full and then noticed the ground getting wet.
 Gas was running out of my tank!  I mopped up as best I could and
finally it quit (after it dropped out that extra gallon) and the needle
still registered full.  Is there some kind of no-overfill rule I  need
to know about, or to I have a leaky gas tank?

Thanks!

-Q
"Where Did I Go Today?"
1970 Series IIa 88" Land Rover
1977 Series I Lotus Esprit (#118)
 

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 15:57:08 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Door Top bolts

Steve Irwin wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> Hello all-
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> Steve Irwin
> 1973 S3 88
Hi steve,

I don't know if you have ever changed the door tops before, but I have
just done the job on two series III's.

The bolt is almost certainly unusable, and will probably sheer when you
try to remove it.

The bolt goes through the bottom of the door top, and is welded both
here, and to the underside of the "top-of-the-bottom-of-the-door-top"
that is the channel under the runners for the windows.

You could probably weld new bolts in, if you can get the old ones out
without the whole assembly reacting like a can being opened. Considering
the state  of the long-bolts, this may indicate that the bottom of the
top section, especially at the front end, is more rusted than you
suspect.

The door top can be ordered without glass and is quite cheap that way -
I paid about 30 dollars (in kroner) here in denmark.

when refitting, be sure not to overtighten the long bolts, as this pulls
the channel down towards the bottom rail and distrots the cladding.

I dismantled my new door tops, and coated the cladding with silicon
mastic, painted the frame inside and out with rust paint, in the hope
that this will last longer.

Good luck - new bolts can work, but there is a risk of shredding the
frame in the process.
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 07:03:36 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: K&N Part Numbers

 To all interested K&N users,

        Here is a listing of part numbers for all Land Rover products and
adapations for the 2.25L engines. I've posted this stuff before, twice, so
please print out a copy for reference.

Range Rover, '86-94 Classic, w/Lucas Hotwire EFI (cylindrical filt.)- E-2350
Range Rover, '95 Classic, w/Lucas Hotwire EFI (flat filt.)-           33-2737
Defender 90, 110, '93-97 w/Lucas Hotwire EFI, NAS, -                  E-2350
Discovery - '94-97 w/EFI-                                             33-2737
Range Rover 4.0, 4.6- '95-97-                                         33-2744

2.25L Engines:
Zenith or Weber 34ICH (2-1/4" O.D. throat)-                           RU-0690
Solex (2-5/8" O.D. throat)                                            RU-2650
PVC equipped vehicles will also need a breather filter-               62-1320
(install on hose nipple on valve cover berather cap)

        Have fun!

        Jim Allen

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 08:53:35 -0500
From: "Herman L. Stude" <hermans@pdq.net>
Subject: Double postings

Howdy;

anyone on the list getting double postings of everything?  Please send
help.

-hls

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 16:14:19 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Leaking gas tank!

Chuque Henry wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> OK, being a new Rover owner I'm not ruling anything out...
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 24 lines)]
> 1970 Series IIa 88" Land Rover
> 1977 Series I Lotus Esprit (#118)
You could have a leaking tank - but there is one thing worth checking
first -

If you have a tank with two down pipes - like the diesel which has a
feed (combined with gauge sender) and a return flow, or on a petrol a
feed and a seperate gauge sender - it is possible to fit the sender so
that the float snags with the downpipe - thus, if the sender is
installed at the worng angle, when the tank is empty, the gauge never
goes above half full, and if the sender is installed when the tank is
full, the gauge never goes below half full.

Remove the sender, and note the travel.axis of the float to check if
this could be the problem - if so, rotate the sender one-sixth of a
rotation (60 degrees) so as to line up with the "next hole" in the
mounting flange . and refit.

Otherwise it could be a leak - but leaky tanks normally leak from the
bottom, not the top, and usually rather slowly - could be worth checking
the air-vent pipe and the filler hose neck.

Good luck!
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 07:12:32 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: 2.25 Red Line

> >I've just installed a tacho in my petrol 2.25 Series III.  What's an
>appropriate value to set the red line (rev limit) at?
>Dean

4250 rpm. With a stock engine, anything beyond is a waste of time because
is't way out of the torque and power bands. A modified engine (headers,
2bbl carb, and 2.25L cam works up to about 4500rpm or slightly more. If
your engine is tired, stick to 4250 regardless. The valves float (with
fresh valve springs) at about 4800 but if you do what I did and install
heavier valves springs to bring the valve float level farther on, the
engine begins to grenade at about 5200rpm.
My engine saw 5500 a few times before it went on strike.

        Jim Allen

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 10:01:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Leaking gas tank!

>From the sound of it, I'd lay very large osdds on the gaskets around your
fuel tank level sender, pickup or vent line mountings being defective, or
possibly all three.

Replace 'em - it can be done without pulling th tank, by accessing it
through the panel above it in the seatbox. Put in new gaskets and Hylomar
them for a good seal, and that should deal with it.

If it doesn't (and you should probably do this anyway) inspect the filler
and vent hoses that attach to the tank just behind the seat box. They may
be loose, brittle or perished. Replace as needed....

                    Al Richer

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: K&N Part Numbers
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:18:08 +0200 (MET DST)

Jim Allen writes:

|         Here is a listing of part numbers for all Land Rover products and
| adapations for the 2.25L engines.
I like to add:
2.5D and TD:		K&N # 38-9051
Cheers,
Franz
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 10:33:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: folding sidestep

In a message dated 97-06-01 19:30:57 EDT, you write:

<< Has anyone tried to install one of those folding sidesteps to the 
 passenger side of an 88 or 109 that has the passenger under the seat gas 
 tank (this is for a lhd rig)?  Or have a truck with such on it?  I have 
 mine and a picture from the parts catalogue and after sitting under my 
 truck for about an hour cannot figure out the bracketing.
 
 I guess two holes have to be drilled in the sill support. >>

I haven't installed them but I've removed a pair.  There was an angle bracket
going from the bulkhead outrigger to the step and the assembly was bolted to
the sill support in two locations.  Right and left side steps were done as
mirror images.

Hope this helps,

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 08:35:55 -0600
From: Chris Brosious <brosious@pogo.ast.lmco.com>
Subject: who

who rro

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:01:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul Gussack" <pcg@tennis.org>
Subject: freelander

Talked wit a Rover dealer over the weekend and he did not seem to think the
freelander would be sold in the US markets.  It seemed to him to be contrary to
all the qualities that make the Disco's and D90 and even the RR's such great
sales (superior construction vs unibody, etc.). The freelander seemed to be
aimed at a Euro, young, mid class, audience.  

We'll See

Paul G.
SIII SWB "Grendal"

P.S. 
Went to an off road outing in my father's new Disco and had a great time.  The
folks with an unnamed (no advertising) dealership are great, even had Mack
Barber on hand to give tips during a run on part of the course (a very nice guy
as well as a great driver). We dented the crush pocket on the front bumper and
they offered to repair it.  All the staff we met were very well informed and
committed to service. Anyone in the southeast interested can e-mail me and I'd
be happy to pass on details. 

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:02:55 -0700
From: john hess <jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: importing land rovers

Hello all,

I thought I was insane, buying my Dormobile 3000 miles away without seeing
it.  However, in retrospect, I was fairly resposible.  I had two people who
knew land rovers much better than I look at it (thanks again to Ted Howard
and Jeff Aronson).  I also had lots of pictures (thanks to Mike Smith) that
covered most of the vehicle.  I also had his descriptions, which were
realistic.

I also had contacted the CA state smog guys and checked out what I was
doing.  I anticipated a problem with title, since the state of maine didn't
grant titles for old cars and CA is a stickler for paperwork.  however,
things worked themselves out in a couple months.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would consider importing a vehicle
form a foreign country without having reams of paperwork and an "it's OK"
letter from everyone in the state and federal government who could possibly
screw things up. But, I guess folks try to import things all the time.

I would urge everyone who is thinking about importing a vehicle to please
check everything out before hand.  I am convinced that vehicles can be
imported and everyone can win.  In the SF bay area are a few vehicles that
have come over, each in a different way; one self import, one purchase from
a company, one through an ICI, mine by way of Maine.  Later this year, my
friend should also be importing a vehcile he bought in England.

As I recommend to everyone talking about California Smog rules, don't
listen to anyone but the state smog people!  Get the story from them and
not from someone who has a friend who did x y and z.

PS.  Remember the guy a while ago who claimed to have found a loophole
through which to bring in TDi 110s?  He emailed me that the price was $50K
but didn't seen like the vehicle would be CA licensed, that I would have to
do.  ANyone care to email me with the details of how this guy thought he
could get vehicles onto the US and licensed?

John F Hess                       1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"
jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us      1984 Mazda GLC "Mazda box"
dormobile homepage:               1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's)
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 11:20:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Series III U-Joints

Con,

Why did you have to start this thread?????  Went to replace the u-joints on
the rear drive shaft Saturday.  Pressed out the old ones - no problem.
 Started to press in the new one on the short part of the shaft.  The yoke
broke!  Never seen one do that before.  Yes, using the correct Precision
u-joints and everything was lined up correctly.  Another case of Nigel's
disease!!!!

Anyone got a spare 88" rear drive shaft for sale?????

Thanks,

Larry Smith
Chester, VA
Limping along in Front Wheel Drive 

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 11:46:01 -0400
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jberg@hearstnewmedia.com>
Subject: Rovers by the sea

The annual British By The Sea car show was held at the Harkness Memorial in
Waterford, Connecticut this past Sunday.  There were over 40 Land-Rovers,
mostly heritage vehicles, in attendance.  Best of all, I was pleasantly
surprised at the number and variety of "special vehicles" present at this
"local" event.

(Forgive me for leaving so many owner's names out here --as most of you
know, I'm bad with names.  Jeff Meyer was taking notes and I haven't had a
chance to steal them yet)

There was an immaculate 80" Series I, complete with rear PTO unit, which I
learned is owned by a chap who lives near me.  Mark Ohno drove his 109"
Ambulance, complete with an injured dummy in back, to the show.  The last
time I had seen the ambulance it was just the rear shell sitting in Mark's
back yard, so it was great to see it running.  Other "ultimate work
vehicles" included a tow truck and a log splitting truck.  There was a
truck with a WWII radio direction finder (RDF) mounted in the rear bed.
There was an 88 IIa present that had a Euro-Ford V-6 (from the German
Capri) engine.  Seemed like a neat swap, and there was plenty of room left
over under the hood.  Seth (British Bulldog) was displaying a tough looking
trials truck--a coil sprung, V-8  88 hybrid.  Herb Zipkin rounded out the
field with his IRF (I'd Rather Fly) Expedition Rover.

As always, Herb was happy to answer questions and share tales of his
adventures.  He was also proudly displaying Bob Morrison's LRO article
(June, 1997) about Herb and the Rover.  Mr. Zipkin even had some advice for
us single guys gathered around the vehicle, "Find yourself a girl and take
her on a trip like this.  You'll either end up throwing her overboard or
marrying her."

Other highlights included Al Richer's field servicing lessons.  He replaced
my valve cover gasket using only a SOG Paratool--and didn't get a spot of
dirt, oil or grease on his white shirt in the process.  (Look for an
upcoming "Profiles in vehicle maintenance" photo feature on the EROS WWW
site.)  Al did such a great job that I also allowed him to "show me how to"
adjust the steering bump stops.  FINSUP no longer has annoying tire rub
during hard left maneuvers. And I now know how to fix it if the problem
reoccurs--"just ask Al ;-)"!

Members of Yankee Rovers took care of the mess detail--feeding the Rover
masses with hot dogs, deviled eggs, and a delicious sausage and onion soup.
Those of us who didn't shop salute you!

Prizes were awarded both as part of the car show itself (though I never
heard who won what) and, thanks to British Bulldogs generosity, special
awards for and by the Rover gang.  These prizes included some great
T-shirts that Seth has had made up.  You've probably all seen the ad about
the Italians designing cars according to their ideal image of a woman, and
the Brits doing the same.  Now you can wear it on your back.  Another shirt
explains why the British don't build computers.  (Because they can't make
them leak oil.)  My personal favorite was available in two versions,
featuring either a Rangie or a Series Vehicle, reading  "Once the proud
possession of English Royalty.  Now available to American Yuppie Scum."

Of course these days no States-side event is complete unless is invaded and
annexed by the Empire Rover Owners Society (E.R.O.S.).
<Empire/> Although a full fledged invasion
proved impossible, we did pull off a raid. E.R.O.S. members present
included Jeff Meyer, Al Richer (deputized on the spot), member-emeritus
Herb Zipkin and myself.

I also managed to continue an EROS tradition--I won another drawing.  If
you read the EROS invasions of Assateague Island article
<Empire/ai-x.html> (Or see the latest
edition of the Rovers North newsletter for an abridged version), you'll
recall that I won a Land Rover Gear sweatshirt at the R.O.V.E.R.S. beach
run.  This time my prizes included a pocket knife (presented to Al Richer
with thanks), a Lucas Lamps advertisement reprint (presented to Amanda
Richer who took my tickets and actually attended the drawing) and a 7/16"
-1/2" Whitworth combination wrench (presented to my toolkit.)

Credit for the tremendous turnout belongs largely to Mark Ohno.  Mark
maintains a mailing list (New England Rover Registry) and actively
encourages people to turn out for this event.  While I'd prefer a spot of
offroad driving myself, the event makes for an enjoyable day at the shore.

RoverOn!

jab
(Please send any direct replies to jeff@purpleshark.com -- this is my
"freelance corporate sell-out" account.)

==
Jeffrey A. Berg
Macintosh Systems Consultant
Phone     (212) 649-2322
FAX        (212) 957-8524
mailto:jberg@hearstnewmedia.com

To report HNMC Macintosh problems use
mailto:support@hearstnewmedia.com
Remember, the subject line must include
NMC MAC "Brief Description"

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Subject: Any LRO's in Winnipeg or Chicago ?
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 11:24:26 -0400
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>

Hi,
	Any LRO's headed for the Blues Festival in Chicago next weekend ?
It's more fun to grab a bunch of seats at the Petrillo Band shell... drop
me e-mail, which I'll be reading from Winnipeg, Manitoba this week. If any
one up north wants to meet  for a pint, let me know.

	Cheers,
	-Bill

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:00:49 -0700
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: L-R Worship

At 02:28 PM 5/29/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I've been thinking of getting one of those "large round things" you see in
>car dealerships that slowly turns a vehicle around and round.  Now, this is
[...]
>splendid glory of my beloved treasure.   The wife does'nt care for the idea
 
Depending on how interested in keeping such an obviously deranged person
around as a wife, you could consider a Lazy susan from your local
kitchenware shop and a model LR...

8^)

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 97 08:21:17 EST
Subject: Re[2]: removing hi-lo gearbox

>The tabs may also be of the longer tabed washer that should be replaced 
>with a short tab washer when fitting the overdrive. Could the last one 
>in the box inadvertantly left the long one instead, and these are now 
>the tabs tha are trying to escape? Just a thought!

say wha?
never heard of this.
can you tell me more, please?
thanks
DaveB

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 09:25:14 -0700
From: "Clinton D. Coates" <Clinton_Coates@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: folding step

Hi Greg,

> Has anyone tried to install one of those folding sidesteps...

> Sounds like something else to grease.

> Greg 'what's wrong with an overturned bucket, or....'

Well, they look so cool and it will keep my wife happy.  Being 9 mos pregnant 
is not fun when you have to climb up into a rover!

Clinton

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From: Jeff Gauvin <jeffg@minerva.co.symbios.com>
Subject: Re: CB40 may not be sold in US
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 9:45:19 MDT

:  Detroit Auto News reports on 
:  http://detnews.com/AUTOS/9612/11/talk/talk.htm
: 
:        "Rover executives in Britain say the new company's new
:         Land Rover Heartland, a compact sport-ute better known
:         by its code name CB40, may not be sold in the United
:         States after production begins in late 1997."
: 
:  Could it be because Honda is making a new truck that looks
:  just like it for around $20K, as does Toyota RAV4 and the
:  new Kia from Korea?

LRNA will probably import 500 limited edition (numbered) units,
all Alpine White. At least that's the rumour I'm starting :-)

--
Jeff Gauvin
'94 D90

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:24:30 -0400
From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jberg@hearstnewmedia.com>
Subject: Jeff Meyer Article in U.S. Rag

For those of you following Jeff Meyers Labador journey in LRW--and
wondering if he's ever going to get there--you might want to check out the
latest issue of Off Road magazine.  He gets there--and back--all in one
month.  (Of course, there are terrific photos too.)  It's basically an
abridged version of the LRW article, but we should show our support for a
U.S. magazine willing to cover our territory.

Once you've enjoyed the piece, take the time to write the editors and ask
for more Land Rover coverage and more stuff by Jeff Meyer.  The gates are
open (a crack), let the barbarian hoardes swarm in!

RoverOn!

jab

(Direct Reply to: jeff@purpleshark.com)

==
Jeffrey A. Berg
Macintosh Systems Consultant
Phone     (212) 649-2322
FAX        (212) 957-8524
mailto:jberg@hearstnewmedia.com

To report HNMC Macintosh problems use
mailto:support@hearstnewmedia.com
Remember, the subject line must include
NMC MAC "Brief Description"

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:59:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: importing land rovers

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, john hess wrote:

> through which to bring in TDi 110s?  He emailed me that the price was $50K
> but didn't seen like the vehicle would be CA licensed, that I would have to
> do.  ANyone care to email me with the details of how this guy thought he
> could get vehicles onto the US and licensed?

	Bring them in under diplomatic permit, the dippy keeps in their
name for a year, then you get it.  Of course, you pay all up front,
receive delivery a little more than a year later. (Can't do this in
Canada)

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 00:55:29 -0700
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: folding step

Clinton D. Coates wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> Hi Greg,
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)]
> is not fun when you have to climb up into a rover!
> Clinton

  9 months pregnant? Riding in a LR , she won't go overdue !! :-)
  Congrats

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 02 Jun 97 09:57:04 MST
Subject: Re: CB40 may not be sold in US

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486

> LRNA will probably import 500 limited edition (numbered) units,
> all Alpine White. At least that's the rumour I'm starting :-)

Yeah! Then they'll introduce a "limited supply" of rag top models,
followed by an additional "500 units", then....

But in the end, supply will ultimately approach the demand.

Dave...

I count him braver who overcomes     #=======#         _____l___
his desires than him who conquers    |__|__|__\___    //__/__|__\___
his enemies; for the hardest victory | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ - _|}
is the victory over self. -Aristotle "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)
=========================================================================
From: Jeff Gauvin <jeffg@minerva.co.symbios.com>
Subject: Re: CB40 may not be sold in US
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 9:45:19 MDT
Cc: rro@playground.sun.com, Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
Jun 01, 97 11:59 pm
X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 212.2]

:  Detroit Auto News reports on
:  http://detnews.com/AUTOS/9612/11/talk/talk.htm
:
:        "Rover executives in Britain say the new company's new
:         Land Rover Heartland, a compact sport-ute better known
:         by its code name CB40, may not be sold in the United
:         States after production begins in late 1997."
:
:  Could it be because Honda is making a new truck that looks
:  just like it for around $20K, as does Toyota RAV4 and the
:  new Kia from Korea?

LRNA will probably import 500 limited edition (numbered) units,
all Alpine White. At least that's the rumour I'm starting :-)

--
Jeff Gauvin
'94 D90

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 03:46:31 -0700
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Series III U-Joints

Lodelane@aol.com wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> Con,
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 19 lines)]
> Chester, VA
> Limping along in Front Wheel Drive

Yea, thanks alot Larry. I still gotta replace mine tonight, and I didn't 
expect to have any broken yokes, but, now I guess it's too late, the word 
is spoke! :->

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"  ( Probably going to be limping.....)

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 03:51:04 -0700
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Paint Code

Anyone got an idea of what the paint code for "Limestone" is. Want to 
have 3 qts. mixed up for my Boler camper to match Pig. Will probably 
paint Pig if the job turns out nice. Going to use Solo brand, not DuPont, 
he killed someone didn't he?
Regards, 

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: Chuque Henry <ChuqueH@isco.com>
Subject: Skittish driving 2a
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:03:30 -0500

I know it's old vehicle, and I expect it to be tough to drive, but my
Landie is so skittish that on a well grooved two lane (pavement, not
dirt) I'm afraid for my life.  What could cause it to drive this way?  I
know the tires on it are too big, but it shouldn't account for this much
difficulty.  Any thoughts?  Do you think an alignment would help or is
it time to start replacing things?

Thanks again!

-Q
"Where Did I Go Today?"
1970 Series IIa 88" Land Rover
1977 Series I Lotus Esprit (#118)
 

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 13:24:40 -0700
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Micro Machines 109 Ragtop

I just mention this because I know some people on this list collect toy
Rovers.

Yesterday, I took my son to Target to get some Micro Machine toys, and I
saw a package containing off-road vehicles.  I looked at it and sure
enough, there was a Series III 109" ragtop.  The proportions are
wrong--looks kind of like a Hummer, as they made it shorter than
normal,  but otherwise pretty neat.  I bought the set (my first toy LR)
and have the 109 'wheeling on a 1lb blob of Silly Putty I keep on my
monitor at work, gave the FJ40 to our network administrator (who owns
one), and gave all the US crapmobiles to my younger son.

C

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 15:41:02 -0500
From: "Herman L. Stude" <hermans@krts.com>
Subject: Re: Skittish driving 2a

Chuque Henry 

Why not check the usual suspects:

Alignment
Steering Box
Swivel Housings (replaced them on the IIA 109) it liked to wander
Steering Relay

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:35:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: Micro Machines 109 Ragtop

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Christopher H. Dow wrote:

> one), and gave all the US crapmobiles to my younger son.

Just What kind of values are you trying to instill in the youth of today
(read rover-owners of tomorrow)?!?!

:} (I'm going shopping for one of those!)

Rove to Live, live to rove...
steve

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 14:06:44 -0700
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Re: Micro Machines 109 Ragtop

Steven Swiger (LIS) wrote:
> > one), and gave all the US crapmobiles to my younger son.
> Just What kind of values are you trying to instill in the youth of today
> (read rover-owners of tomorrow)?!?!
> :} (I'm going shopping for one of those!)

Actually, given that my kids are almost always ferried around in either
my wife's Disco or my IIA, I think they'll know what to buy when the
grow up...after all, just a few trips in my stepfather's IIA sold me on
the marque :-).

C

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 02 Jun 97 15:08:54 MST
Subject: '47 Willye!! NOW what have I done???

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486

Hello all,

A funny thing happened on the way home from the store last night... we
happened to notice an old flat fendered Jeep. So... we decided to take a
look on the way home, and jotted the number down. It turns out to be a
'47 Willys, with the original engine, and an aftermarket (maybe 10 year
old?) tub, and a tilt steering wheel job. My son became VERY interested
(17 years old) and quite honestly, it was refreshing to have him be
interested in this, instead of a muscle car. (His former "interest")

So... I meet with the guy, start it up, test drive in the dirt lot (no
brakes or licence) and... sold! To the guy with the first $800 (me!)
While we were looking at it, there were 3 -4 other people that drove up
and were interested in the Willys. It's not in the best of condition,
but for the price, I couldn't go TOO wrong. Right???

I MUST have gone ABSOLUTELY nuts!!! I already have 5 cars, now 6
vehicles??? 4 of them are 4-wheelers!! I already can't even get into
my 2 car garage, for all the misc parts and "junk" (Did I mention I
like Land Rovers?). I have NO place to put this even!!

Something's gotta go!!!

My first love (in 4-wheel drives) is Land Rovers, but this Jeep should
be interesting... Uh... it *is* still called a "Jeep" isn't it??

>From oldest to newest:

'47 Willys Jeep
'70 Land Rover IIa 109" (Soon to be for sale)
'71 Land Rover IIa 88"
'86 Acura Integra (soon for sale.)
'87 Range Rover
'91 Pontiac 6000

I count him braver who overcomes     #=======#         _____l___
his desires than him who conquers    |__|__|__\___    //__/__|__\___
his enemies; for the hardest victory | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ - _|}
is the victory over self. -Aristotle "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 20:01:49 -0400
From: Will Cantrell <wrc@pipeline.com>
Subject: sighting

Today I saw, an extremely rare occasion in this area, a white Series III
from Colorado.  It was a little bit beat up, as is to be expected, and I was
wondering if it was anyone on the list or if anyone knew about it.

Will Cantrell
no Rover, but a Beretta longing for transmogrification.

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 20:38:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Skittish driving 2a

In a message dated 6/2/97 6:00:37 PM, you wrote:

>I know it's old vehicle, and I expect it to be tough to drive, but my
>Landie is so skittish that on a well grooved two lane (pavement, not
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 6 lines)]
>difficulty.  Any thoughts?  Do you think an alignment would help or is
>it time to start replacing things?

Check your IIa's:

1. Toe. If it is toe-out, it will drive darty from side to side.
2. Track rod. If it is bent or been tweaked, it will pull in the backs of the
tires. See above.
3. Check to make sure your axles are bolted to the springs. ;-)

I'm sure there's more to look at...

pat
93 110

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 20:41:03 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Slippery seats

Con Seitl wrote:

>I was heading down to my Crappy Tire store tomorrow to get some Armour-all
>for the seats.

Ahhhh!  *Don't* use Armor-All.  "Silicone" products make the stitching 
brittle.  They look great for a few years, then disintergrate.  Much better 
is plain ol' WD-40.  Think about it: vinyl is basically petroleum with its 
molecules scrambled.  More petroleum (WD-40) is the secret.  Got this tip 
from Chris "The Badger" Laws; upholstery is his business at Badger 
Coachworks.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:33:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Skittish driving 2a

In a message dated 97-06-02 20:02:29 EDT, you write:

<< Why not check the usual suspects:
 
 Alignment
 Steering Box
 Swivel Housings (replaced them on the IIA 109) it liked to wander
 Steering Relay
  >>

I'd just add tie rod ends and
(as in my case) the front crossmember.
(Funny how bad steering can be when one end of the cross member is free
floating in space)

Nate

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:09:45 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: oils again

Hi all - I know you don't have a Tdi in the US ( except somewhere where 
Camel Trophy try-outs take place) but perhaps you can help. With each 
passing publication on the subject, LR has become more adamant about the 
requirement for SHPD oils for the Tdi. I haven't been able to get any local 
dealers (including NAPA - ha ha I recall someone saying) to import any so I 
plan to get a few Tdi comrades to organize a joint order from the US. 

We can get stuff like Castrol GTX 2, Shell Rimula X, Texaco Dieseltex, etc, 
all of which are - LR quote "for emergency use only, not to be used 
continuously even if changed after 3000 miles, not for consecutive changes, 
 to be replaced as soon as possible, etc". The workshop manual then lists 
what should be used, but they may be names known only in the UK. 

These include Shell Myrina, Castrol Turbomax, Texaco Ursa Super TD, Mobil 
Delvac 1400 Super, Caltex RPM Delo 450, Valvoline Super HD LD. Are any of 
these familiar in the US?

If not, can anyone tell me what US oils meet CCMC D3 levels? 

Lastly, what synthetic oil available there would be appropriate?

Many thanks from a few of us for any advice.

Allan 

27 month old built-to-order 300Tdi 90 proudly proclaiming its Series IV 
heritage:
Replaced leaking clutch master & slave seals already;
Replaced 4 shocks as 3 were already leaking;
Leaking main 'box;
Leaking right swivel seal as of last month;
New leak in rear dif seal;

But wouldn't change it for anything .... 

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 10:16:19 -0700
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Vibrations,U-Joints et al

Well, with all intentions of replacing u-joints tonight,the job certainly 
took a twist. As asertained by fellow listers(?), the problem was in the 
drive line. The front shaft was so loose on the splines it almost looked 
like there was a u-joint inside the rubber! Not only that, but the front 
diff pinion bearing is loose/wore, don't know yet, but the u-joints are 
ok. But the rear drive shaft, well, the splines are worn pretty bad, and 
the pinion bearing has so much play in it that I'm surprised it still 
turns. Now I'm happy to think that all the noise and vibrations I've felt 
over the past few years might be gone with a little attention. Hey, it 
never broke or fell out, so why should I look under there?

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 22:24:33 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: importing land rovers

> PS.  Remember the guy a while ago who claimed to have found a loophole
> through which to bring in TDi 110s?  He emailed me that the price was $50K
> but didn't seen like the vehicle would be CA licensed, that I would have to
> do.  ANyone care to email me with the details of how this guy thought he
> could get vehicles onto the US and licensed?

Out of curiosity I e-mailed him and he replied that it involved taking
advantage of a loophole in the law involving diplomats. I've reviewed
the law and I don't see the loophole. I suppose a diplomat could
"abandon" the vehicle when leaving the US, but the US government could
then seize it. I wonder if anyone tried.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 22:17:45 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Gazelle Rage

Can anyone help with information on the following:

Automotive News today reported today that a new company called Eurasia
Motor Corp. of Ft. Lauderdale, FL has started signing up dealers for
Gazelle sport utility vehicles. The first model will be the Rage with a
soft top. Accordeing to the company, the vehicles will be assemble in
Britain with off-the-shelf components from many different sources. The
body shell is described as originally designed to fit the D90, and the
engine as from Cosworth. There is an accompanying side-view picture. The
wheelbase looks more like 80", and the front and rear ends are truncated
just past the tires. Reading a lot into the shadows suggests the vehicle
in the photo has LR/RR suspension. Any guesses? Some sort of LR based
kit car body?

Before anyone in the US gets excited, there is no indication that the
company has any assests other than $30,000 deposits from "about 10
dealers". They claim a "letter of intent" but not a contract with
Cosworth for the engines. A dealer who has put a deposit down says "the
more you look, the less there is". There are no indications that any
part of the vehicle is intended to be LR sourced.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 10:32:49 -0700
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: removing hi-lo gearbox

dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> >The tabs may also be of the longer tabed washer that should be replaced
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)]
> thanks
> DaveB

When installing a Fairey overdrive, it is supplied with the proper size 
washer (tabbed) to replace the washer that is in it already. The tabs are 
shorter ( I suppose you could cut down the tabs of the one that came out 
of it). It's been awhile, but my instructions and diagram are here 
somewhere and I could dig them up. Seems to me I remeber that if you use 
the longer tabed one the tabs will interfere with something ( being very 
precise here eh?) and get knocked off. I thought the statement was pretty 
straight forward for anyone who has installed an overdrive, but now I'll 
have to find the reason why . The Book of Words  says its so, and I never 
questioned why :->

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:03:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Gazelle Rage

In a message dated 6/2/97 10:40:51 PM, you wrote:

>Can anyone help with information on the following:
>Automotive News today reported today that a new company called Eurasia
>Motor Corp. of Ft. Lauderdale, FL has started signing up dealers for
>Gazelle sport utility vehicles.

I will be in Ft. Lauderdale Wed./Thurs. Do you have an address? I could pass
by and do a recce for you.

pat
93  110

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:56:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Cassidy <rovah@agate.net>
Subject: Downeast Club wants to send items to Belize....

Unfortunately, none of our club members(that I know of!) will be making the
Trek to Belize! :-(  As we have plenty of paper here in Maine, we'd like to
donate some to the effort for the school kids.  Does anyone that's going
have some room for some more cargo!?  I'm sure we could get plenty of paper
to send, but I think that the weight would cause the shipping costs to
Belize to be prohibitive!  If anyone has some spare room(or more than one
person!), send me your address directly, and we'll send some paper to you
to have as cargo!

Thanks in any advance for your help!  John

John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA

The Downeast Land Rover Club, <http://www.agate.net/~rovah/>
X0 of the V(irtual)MFA 323th Cougars/Flying GSC's F/A-18 Hornet game

2 Wheels: Ducati M900, Velocette Thruxton, Moto Morini 350S
4 Wheels: 1995 Discovery, 1987 Range Rover-"Smedley," 1966 Series IIA 88",
1972 Series III 88"-"SWAMBO"

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From: Todd Houge <todd@dialus.com>
Subject: RE: Door Top bolts
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:10:17 -0500
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After shearing the front bolts on both sides when removing the door =
tops, I replaced the bolts in my series III with great success.  After =
removing the glass and window channels, carefully remove the outside =
aluminum skin.  We then cut access holes on the outside of the frame and =
cut the existing bolt out.  The new bolts were welded both at the bottom =
of the frame and the bottom of the window opening.  (we used great care =
to get the angle right to ensure sealing at the top of the window.  All =
that remains is to weld the cutouts back in and reassemble.  After all =
of this work, the price of new frames does not seem so high.

Todd Houge
'73 SIII

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From: 	Steve Irwin[SMTP:irwin@fred.ifas.ufl.edu]
Sent: 	Monday, June 02, 1997 9:35 AM
Subject: 	Door Top bolts

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

Hello all-

The bolts fasten my door tops to the bottoms are quite rusty.  One is
so rusted that it resembles a stalagtite, with absolutley no threads
visible.  The other three are quite rusty where they exit the frame
of the dootop.  I can even wiggle one of them about 5 degrees.

Aside from this, the doortops are in quite servicible condition, at
least till wife gradutes law school, and we have mnore disposable
income.  Has anybody on the list ever contemplted/succeeded in
welding on replacement bolts?  If so, I'd sure like some advice.

TIA
Steve Irwin
1973 S3 88

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: play in Salisbury diff
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:18:10 +0200 (MET DST)

Hello fello Rovers,
I have a clonking rear diff for quite a while. I can't really
tell if it went louder or if it just annoys me more, but it 
doesn't seem to be very sound and last week I decided to get 
it done. The clonk appears when I get off the clutch and it 
clearly comes from play in the diff (bushes and A-frame are ok). 
	Flipping through the manual yesterday I noticed
that the play in the diff is adjusted with washerlike (?) distance
pieces (hope this is the English word for them, since I have German
manual). Now I wonder if I can just measure the play and insert
the right distance pieces with the diff in situ. Or do I have
to get it all apart? I guess, I have at least to pull one half 
shaft to get the distance pieces in.

Can any of the diff gurus give me a hint?

Many thanks,
Franz
p.s. sorry for the cross post, but I really have to sort this out now.
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-
                                  

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From: "Huub Pennings" <pennings@kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:24:18 +0100
Subject:       Re: removing hi-lo gearbox

Hy Floris,

I also was at the sortoutout and took someone's adres who had a few 
aII gearboxes for sale for US$ 90. Interested???

Regards,

Huub Pennings

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:17:06 +0100
From: Kevin.Whitmarsh@azlan.co.uk (Kevin Whitmarsh)
Subject: Re: Gazelle Rage
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     There are a number of 'Kit Cars' based on LR running gear:
     
     1: Foers Ibex, which is UK manufactured chassis/body assembly that 
     takes LR running gear, see their web site at
     
     http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/pbrad/ibex.htm
     
     2: Dakar (cant remember the manufacturer), uses RR chassis/running 
     gear with new fibre glass beach buggy type body on top, I know this 
     one is already exported to Australia under some other name.
     
     3. Eagle RV Jeep, another fibre glass body sat on LR/RR chassis, looks
     like old 1950's style Jeep.
     
     rgds
     Kevin
     
     Triton Green 1985 110 CSW V8 - B509 NSB
     Basingstoke, Hants

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