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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Mon, 19 May 97 08:44:27 EST
Subject: Re[2]: What to do...

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

>Killing's too good for him. Drop a load of rust worms in his glovebox...
>8*) 8*) 8*)

          >aj"Or a dead rat on the manifold..."r

but neither would change anything...
how about a carefully placed sticker bearing the words "I wish I were a..."

DaveB
arlingtonVA

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:08:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Re[2]: What to do...

>>Re: FJ-40 with a Landy spare cover:
>>Killing's too good for him. Drop a load of rust worms in his glovebox...
>but neither would change anything...
>how about a carefully placed sticker bearing the words "I wish I were
a..."
>DaveB
>arlingtonVA

Yes, but it's sooooooooo satisfying.....

     aj"So what's wrong with a little random violence?"r

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Mon, 19 May 97 09:37:11 EST
Subject: Re[4]: What to do...

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

>>Re: FJ-40 with a Landy spare cover:
>>Killing's too good for him. Drop a load of rust worms in his glovebox... 
>but neither would change anything...
>how about a carefully placed sticker bearing the words "I wish I were 
a..."
>DaveB
>arlingtonVA
>Yes, but it's sooooooooo satisfying.....
     >aj"So what's wrong with a little random violence?"r

well, I just thought that deliberately trying to cause a Land Cruiser to 
rust was about as pointless an exercise as trying to make a LR leak oil...

Dave "Mr. Avenger" B.

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From: "Richard L. Ziegler" <rziegler@sover.net>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 13:06:34 -0400

Another possibility for the rear freezeup would be that the hi/low range
gear slipped into low gear and with the front wheels tied down in the
carrier the rear wheels would not be able to turn.

Happy Rovering,
Rich Ziegler, L/R mechanic   '63 88 SIIA pet. (in pieces) '74 88 SIII HT
pet. daily driver '73 88 SIII pet. (awaiting chassis)
Rutland, VT.

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From: "Richard L. Ziegler" <rziegler@sover.net>
Subject: Re: Distributor Wobble
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:51:11 -0400

Con,
	Sorry you had to go to all that trouble to find the cause of the wobble,
but, I e-mailed that cause to you on the 12th and cc:'ed to the digest
where it appeared as item #21 in the digest of 5/13/97.  
	Glad you found the other problem areas but the only ones that would
probably have affected the running of the engine, in the short term, would
have been the tappet slides and rollers.  On doing a rebuild I routinely
replace these if they have been in service for a long time.  The rollers
can get out of round and the clearance between the tappet slides and guides
can increase from wear.

Happy Rovering,
Rich Ziegler, L/R mechanic   '63 88 SIIA pet. (in pieces) '74 88 SIII HT
pet. daily driver '73 88 SIII pet. (awaiting chassis)
Rutland, VT.
 
	

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From: RykRover@aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:49:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Frameover

WELL DAVE IT`S ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!   :^) 
                        RGDS, Rick

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:37:33 -0400
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: Of interest for your event calenders

Dear All,
Below is a list of some upcoming Off Road events we are helping with here
in Maine for the 1997 season. Here are the details...

        Number 1...

        Tea Pond Off Road Weekend
        when:July 25,26,27
        where:Tea Pond in Eustis Maine *near Sugarloaf USA*
        Tea Pond is a vintage hunting and fishing camp on a private lake
with log cabins, etc etc.
        Off Road based 3 day family fun event. An aggressive get togther
for those who really like Off Road use of their Rover. Open to all Land
Rovers new and old. ECR will be acting as trail guides. Limited to the
first 40 Rovers.
        Fee: $50. includes log cabin lodging or tent space, and meals.
        Contact: ECR

        *event is currently booked solid, but as the date gets closer we
may have space as a few could drop out.*

        Number 2...
        Stratton-Eustis Off Roadeo
        September 12,13,14
        Off Roading family fun weekend
        All levels of trails non damaging beginner to hard core
        Where: Stratton, ME *near Sugarloaf USA in Western,ME*
        Lodging: Area cmapgrounds and motels
        Food: Area resaurants (Packed lunches are provided for participants*
        Cost: $90 per person (half price for ages 5-10, 4 and under are free)
        Limited to first 100 vehicles
        Experienced trails guides including ECR Off Road staff
        Sponsored by: Dead River Four Wheel Drive Club
        P.O.Box 319, Kingfield, ME  04947

        Space still avail.

        For more info and registration:
        call Lori at 207.246.4276
        or fax at 207.246.5124
        or email
        soconnor@somtel.com

        Thanks..

        Mike

From: East Coast Rover Co.,Inc.  *Land Rover and Vintage 4X4 Specialists*
Mike Smith, Alan Adolphsen, or Ian Cooke
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
207.594.8086 phone
207.594.8120 fax

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From: Michael Slade <slade@imagina.com>
Subject: WTB Rear View Mirror ('89 RR)
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:39:57 -0700

Hi,

Well, the inevitable has happened.  I've broken my first mirror on the
Range Rover.  Luckily (for my pride) it happened in a VERY tight trail
section and I was miles from the nearest paved road.

I'm experiencing a bit of sticker shock at the price difference (last car
was a 109), but realize they are two completely different beasts.

So, anyone have an extra '89 (or same style) left side mirror they wanna
part with?  I'm not sure about other years, but the '89 is a power mirror.

There's lots to learn about my latest LR product.  Please be patient with
me, and I'll update you on the OME springs/shocks, skidplates, rocksliders
and custom bumpers I'll be putting on it soon.

Thanks!

Michael Slade
Portland, OR
slade@imagina.com
'89 RR County 3.9 (not a wuss-mo-bile)

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:53:15 -0400
From: Jan Ben <ben@lucent.com>
Subject: splitting wood w. LRs??

What's the most ingeneous way you can think of to split wood using your
truck?

Howbout a giant screw w. a base plate bolted to a hub?? How to support
the log?
A splitter wedge in the hitch receiver and the log is positioned against
you neighbor's brick wall? right!

If I had a hydraulic winch, I'd think about rigging up a cylinder to use
w. the pump - have you seen such a setup?

ideas??
(now that the truck is mobile again, I am looking for ways to break it)
rgds
Jan

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:17:25 -0700
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap

At 04:10 PM 5/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>PS, has anyone on this list actually tried one of those scotty adaptor 
>things (as opposed to knowing of someone's third cousin's uncle's 
>dentist....)?

Well...  Not yet.  There's a chevy4 hanging from Scotty's roof about to go
in my 109".  However, I have ridden in several.  Scotty has had quite a few
over the years I've known him.  Also, Brad Blevins has a '67 (I think) 109"
with a chevy6.  Scotty's son Andrew used to have an 88" with a Chevy V-8 in
it -- it was fast, too!  Morgan Hannaford has, I think, one in his, though
I've not ridden in it.  

As soon as mine is back on the road, I'll let you know how it is!

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:01:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Engine Swap

Roger S. said:

>over the years I've known him.  Also, Brad Blevins has a '67 (I think) 109"
>with a chevy6.  Scotty's son Andrew used to have an 88" with a Chevy V-8 in
>it -- it was fast, too!  Morgan Hannaford has, I think, one in his, though
>I've not ridden in it.  

Morgan's 88 has a six-cylinder (250cid) Chevy and it used to be Scotty's
son's as well.  Don Morton <DonaldX_Morton@ccm.sc.intel.com> has a '60 SII
88 with a GM four and Scotty adapter.  I have driven it off-road and found
the power and tractibility very good.  It seemed geared a bit high, with 33"
(255/85R16) BFG MTs on it.  I think he's had it for quite some time and is
happy with it.  You might e-mail him directly, as I don't think he's on the
LRO list.  It was in the vehicle when he bought it.

Cheers,

Granny

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 18:37:21 -0900 (PDT)
From: Chris Murray <murraycm@bc.edu>
Subject: WaterPump 

Hello,

I have just ordered a new waterpump for my IIa.  
Before I go ahead and tackle the job, I thought 
that maybe some of you might have done this 
before.  

It looks relatively straightforward.  Radiator out, 
waterpump out, waterpump in, radiator in. 

However, if any of you have a trick or two i should 
know, please let me know!!

Thanks for your help,
Chris Murray

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:22:10 -0400
From: Brett Storey <brstore@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: WaterPump

Chris Murray wrote:
> Hello,
> I have just ordered a new waterpump for my IIa.
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> know, please let me know!!
> Thanks for your help,
> Chris Murray

Chris

You don't need to remove your radiator to change the water pump. Drain
the coolant, loosen the fan belt, then undo the four bolts and remove
the fan and pully. You can now get to all the bolts on the water pump.
Loosen the clamps on the middle hose and the pump comes right off.

I did mine a couple of weeks ago...no problem.

Brett

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:33:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SER Possible Clutch Problem

Hi all, 

A little trouble on the way home.  Today's the first over 90F and I was
running a little hot.  I pulled off the freeway to run a little cooler.
 (Might be low on fluid).  Anyway, going up the last hill from home, 3rd
didn't seem to accel up the hill commensurate with the engine speed, and then
I smelled something hot.  Shifted down to 2nd and good response.  I thought I
had heard on the list about a trick of holding on the brake and slowly
letting out the clutch in 1st.  With a little extra gas, I was able to let
the clutch fully out without killing it.  Possibilities?  At frameover, the
clutch worked perfectly so I've done nothing but adjust it.

All suggestions welcomed

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 21:16:28 -0200
From: sukkertoppen@ax.apc.org (Jacob G. Glahn)

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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 23:19:46 -0400
From: Dean Meyer <Dean.Meyer@internord.net>
Subject: Oil filter conversion for 2.25

Now that I yanked the motor out of my 88" SWB I'm wondering if there is
a way to convert the oil filter to a spin-on type. This was probably one
of the best mods I made to my Sprites and Minis. Any yeas or nays?

Dean Meyer

1964 Morris Mini Minor Traveller "Wanna see my Woody?"
1966 Austin-Healey 3000 MK III "The moneypit from Vegas"
1967 Austin-Healey Sprite MK III "The big block"
1974 Land Rover Series III 88" "Kinabalu"
1997 Raleigh Serengeti "The gut buster"

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 18:00:36 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Oil filter conversion for 2.25

At 11:19 PM 5/16/97 -0400, Dean Meyer wrote:
;
>Now that I yanked the motor out of my 88" SWB I'm wondering if there is
>a way to convert the oil filter to a spin-on type. This was probably one
;of the best mods I made to my Sprites and Minis. Any yeas or nays?
;
>Dean Meyer
;
There are two ways you can go.  An aftermarket conversion kit, or locate a
2.5L engine's oil filter adaptor from a UK wrecking yard.

TeriAnn Wakeman            For personal mail, please start subject line
Santa Cruz California      with TW.  I belong to 4 high volume mail lists
twakeman@scruznet.com      and do not read a lot of threads..Thanks

A citizen of the internet community since 1986

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From: Shane Burnett <ShaneB@Review.com>
Subject: RE: Building the perfect barbecue
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 21:08:00 -0400

Our Mini club has done something a little.....bigger.  Members from the
club took an old shell that was a complete write-off and cut away the
roof, the left side from the windshield back, and most of the back.  The
car has 3 wheels -- two in front, and the right rear.  From the front or
the right, it looks like a convertible Mini.  The engine was removed and
a barbecue was put in its place.  A wooden shelf runs waist-high along
the length of the inside of the car as a serving counter.  It has decals
on the side that say, "Mini-Q".  It's a big hit at the local field meet.

Shane Burnett
Seattle Area Mini Owners' Association

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Dean Meyer [SMTP:Dean.Meyer@internord.net]
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 20 lines)]
>finishing detail. The bottom is a Mini oil sump and can contain a whole
>day's supply of briquets. How's that for a Hibachi?

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 23:19:31 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: A closer look

The Victoria's Secret catalogue was delivered to my office today.  Curious, 
as it wasn't addressed to me, but to another suite on the floor.  I guess 
the mailman saw the Land-Rover on the cover and naturally routed it my way. ;-)

Anyway, the vehicle deserves a closer look.  It's a right hand drive, 
five-door Series III 109.  Despite the rear quarter windows, safari door and 
hard-top over the driver, it's a *rag top*!  The side curtains are clearly 
visible in one shot...with roll up windows for the rear doors.  A most 
unusual set-up.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:56:47 -0700
From: Granville Pool <gpool@pacific.net>
Subject: Re: WaterPump

Chris assumed that you have to remove the radiator to replace the water pump.

Brett said:

>You don't need to remove your radiator to change the water pump. [snip]

Brett's sounds as if he has no radiator shroud.  Even if you do, you do not
have to remove the radiator but you do have to remove the shroud before you
remove the fan.  Or remove them together which makes the removal of the
shroud easier but make removing the fan bolts difficult.  Although it
doesn't seem as if you can remove the shroud with the fan in place, you
can.  Just be careful and don't get in a hurry and damage your radiator.

Cheers,

Granny

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 21:06:32 -0700
From: Granville Pool <gpool@pacific.net>
Subject: Re: Oil filter conversion for 2.25

Dean asked:

>I'm wondering if there is a way to convert the oil filter to a spin-on type. 

TeriAnn replied:

>There are two ways you can go.  An aftermarket conversion kit, or locate a
>2.5L engine's oil filter adaptor from a UK wrecking yard.

Dean, I just (Saturday) installed an aftermarket one that I got from
British Pacific <BRITPAC@aol.com> for $65.00.  It was very easy to install
and I wish I'd done it long ago!  The instructions with it, though, say to
use the lockwashers and add flat washers to the bolts that hold the
original filter housing to the block.  I found that there was not room for
both kinds of washers and so used only the lock washers that were already
on the original bolts.  Maybe you could use some very thin flat washers but
I didn't have any.

Cheers,

Granville "Granny" Pool
Redwood Valley, CA, USA

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 21:25:19 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Oil filter conversion for 2.25

At 09:06 PM 5/19/97 -0700, Granville Pool wrote:
:>There are two ways you can go.  An aftermarket conversion kit, or locate a
:>2.5L engine's oil filter adaptor from a UK wrecking yard.
:Dean, I just (Saturday) installed an aftermarket one that I got from
:British Pacific <BRITPAC@aol.com> for $65.00.  It was very easy to install
:and I wish I'd done it long ago!  The instructions with it, though, say to
:use the lockwashers and add flat washers to the bolts that hold the
:original filter housing to the block.  I found that there was not room for
:both kinds of washers and so used only the lock washers that were already
:on the original bolts.  Maybe you could use some very thin flat washers but
:I didn't have any.

 I just spoke with a fellow on the weekend who was replacing his dead
 2.25 with a Chevy conversion.  Seems this whole thing was perciptated
 by him converting to a spin-on oil adapter and installing it backwards.
 Apparently there are valves which allow the oil to go only one way.  He
 managed to oil starve his LRover engine and it had a meltdown =:0

-Michael 

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From: "Shaun Fisher" <fishers@natburo.kzntl.gov.za>
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 08:15:25 +0000
Subject: Re: Engine Swap

> Roger S. said:
> >over the years I've known him.  Also, Brad Blevins has a '67 (I think) 109"
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> (255/85R16) BFG MTs on it.  I think he's had it for quite some time and is
> happy with it.  You might e-mail him directly, as I don't think he's on the
> LRO list.  It was in the vehicle when he bought it.
I don't know. I feel that if one had to change the engin of a Landie 
to one from another vehicle then the Landie is not a Landie anymore.

Shaun Fisher
SERIES IIA BOOZMOBILE

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From: "Joost Kramer" <j.kramer@Ehv.Tass.Philips.Com>
Subject: Whoops
Date: Tue, 20 May 97 12:20:58 +0200 (DST)

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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 18:23:34 -0700
From: "Con P. Seitl" <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Oil filter conversion for 2.25

Dean Meyer wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> Now that I yanked the motor out of my 88" SWB I'm wondering if there is
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> 1974 Land Rover Series III 88" "Kinabalu"
> 1997 Raleigh Serengeti "The gut buster"

 There are a few spin on adapters out there, the one I'm using I got from 
a guy in Toronto, works fine and easy to install, uses PH8a Fram filter. 
His name is Paul Socholotiuk, @ 1-416-284-7103.
  PS-- Headed to Nova Scotia soon ??

Con Seitl 
1973 III 88 "Pig"

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 06:38:28 -0400
Subject: Re: SER Possible Clutch Problem

Nate, slipping in higher gears is a sign of a blown clutch - sorry to be
the bearer of bad tidings...

It's either the lining that's gone thin, or you've snapped a spring in the
pressure plate. i'd tend to suspect the former, which while an easy fix is
a bit labour, intensive...

                              ajr

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