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1 lroshop@idirect.com 18Re: LRO
2 finchm@sky3.bskyb.com 41RE: Lightweight Paint color Question
3 James Curtis [staff@stjo5[not specified]
4 wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter d28Re: Need help: parts-info in SIIa Gearbox !
5 AM Barry [Alwyn.Barry@cs50LR for SALE
6 wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter d18Re: Need help: parts-info in SIIa Gearbox !
7 NADdMD@aol.com 18Re: Waxoyl: Good News
8 "Keith W. Cooper" [kwcoo34[not specified]
9 Alan Logue [Logue@a011.a19Clivedon Collection - Land Rover & Disco keyrings etc
10 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u19Re: Clivedon Collection - Land Rover & Disco keyrings etc
11 NADdMD@aol.com 15Re recent posts: Waxoyl
12 Peter Kutschera [peter@z80Re: Re: Need help: parts-info in SIIa Gearbox !
13 Iwan Vosloo [ivosloo@cs.24Re: SWB real speed on 750x16's
14 Mike Gaines [106220.123422Re metric
15 Jan Ben [ben@lucent.com>103.9 motor recall - what was that?? Jim Allen?
16 QROVER80@aol.com 29Ceremonial Lightweight ?
17 QROVER80@aol.com 32Re: Lightweight Paint color Question
18 QROVER80@aol.com 32Re: Lightweight Paint color Question
19 QROVER80@aol.com 7WOOPS.
20 gpool@pacific.net (Granv12Re: Snark & Leaks...
21 "David Nalder" [David_Na24Events in Hungary/eu-lro list/age
22 jon collins [jonathan.co16HELP! Fairey winch
23 Chris Swart [swartc@iafr18Re: Metrics and Mike's hate
24 "William L. Leacock" [wl18Speedos
25 Brett Storey [brstore@ib16Looking for Jared Silbersher
26 Ian Harper/Donna-Claire 24Engine colours
27 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett42RE: Clivedon Collection - Land Rover & Disco keyrings etc
28 blainh@accent.net (Blain12Shocks
29 Allan Smith [smitha@cand19Re: What a SIGHTING.
30 David Cockey [dcockey@ti26Re: Engine colours
31 The Big Guy [guru@manhol21Re: 900-16 tires
32 Paul Oxley [paul@adventu29Re: 900-16 tires
33 Franz Parzefall [franz@m18Re: Re metric


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From: lroshop@idirect.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:23:49 +0000
Subject: Re: LRO

We can always put the price back to where it was when we started, 
GBP72 for 13 issues.  I am not sure of your point.  What would you 
prefer us to do?  

> :	The makings of a price war?  Who knows, but I see that LRO has

>  Publish different rates in the LRO itself?  If the rest of the world
>  found out about North American preferential pricing, there will surely
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>  be revolt! ;)
> -Michael
LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

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From: finchm@sky3.bskyb.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:22:17 +0000
Subject: RE: Lightweight Paint color Question 

I think you will find that it is something to do with the royal navy,
possilibly shore partrol, unless it had red wings then it was to with bomb
diposal. If you have any other questions don't hasitate to ask them.

Yours mark
Dutch lightweight
SIIA pink panther
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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Subject: Lightweight Paint color Question
Date: 13 May 1997 8:29

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

I have a 1970 IIa Lightweight for sale here that I am going to paint. This
week. Wednesday. It is a slightly scabius shade of green at the moment and
flushed with the success of the paint job I did on the ambulance last week=20=
I
was, (am ?) planning to paint it the same NATO green.  This morning we have
been doing the surface prep ( with an angle grinder and a wire brush ) And
we
have discovered several interesting things. First this vehicle is reputed t=
o
have a very low mileage, 18k. Second as we have been removing the flaking
paint we have discovered that the bottom color seems to be DARK Blue ??? RA=
F
?? Under what circumstances were Lightweights painted such a color? It also
has what could be flag holders on the front wings. With the demise of the
Museum of Army Transport I don't know where to turn for the service history
of the vehicle, any suggestions? What color were the RAF ceremonial flight
Lightweights painted?  I guess the idea of painting it school bus yellow
with
"Follow me" on the back is right out :-(
Rgds Quintin

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:42:17 +0100
From: James Curtis <staff@stjohnsba.rmplc.co.uk>

UNSUBSCRIBE Staff@Stjohnsba.rmplc.co.uk

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:26:05 +0200
From: wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter de Waal)
Subject: Re: Need help: parts-info in SIIa Gearbox !

>In my SIIA Gearbox (Gearbox number 25347943E) the layshaft cracks.
>On this layshaft there was a split ring holding gear 2 in position.
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>suffix e gearboxes don't have split rings on them. They are part of the lay
>shaft.

My catalog sez:
09917: Layshaft Up to suffix A
528703: B & C
556040: From D onwards

and:

239272: Split ring for 2d speed layshaft gear, up to suffix C inclusive.

BUT: 1st speed layshaft gear, 2nd speed layshaft gear, primary pinion and
constant gear, are all listed for "up to C inclusive" and "from D onwards",
so I would say that the layshafts are not compatible. (The bearings are the
same, so I would say that you can use any layshaft with the correct gears on
it in any gearbox though, it's just that the layshaft, transfer gear and 1st
+ 2nd gears seem to make a set)

Wouter

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From: AM Barry <Alwyn.Barry@csm.uwe.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:16:20 +0100
Subject: LR for SALE

Hi,

I am posting this for a friend who repairs and maintains LR as a
hobby. He had been asked to search for a LR for a person in New
Mexico, and has now found a suitable vehicle but has lost
contact with the individual who wanted it. He is therefore
putting the vehicle up for sale. It is a Left Hand Drive vehicle.

Details :

  Year     : 1966
  Model    : Series 2a LEFT HAND DRIVE
  Size     : LWB
  Features : An ex-British Army Ambulance
  Mileage  : 30000 (GENUINE)
  Engine   : 2.5L Petrol
  Gearbox  : 4 speed
  Price    : Offers above 2,500 UK Pounds (excl. shipping)
  Location : Currently in Bristol, UK.
  
  History  : Owned by UK Ministry of Defence in Germany. Sold on
             to a private collector who had mothballed it since.
             Mechanically and structurally PERFECT.
             
Contact :

  Email    : Alwyn.Barry@csm.uwe.ac.uk

  Mail     : Mr Mark Dunston,
             7, The Avenue,
             St. Andrews,
             Bristol,
             United Kingdom
             BS 7 9AF

  Phone/Fax : 0044 117 9423586

Please do not reply to the mail group since I sold my LR one month
ago and have un-subscribed. If you are using email, reply direct to
me.

Many thanks,

Alwyn Barry

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:33:20 +0200
From: wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter de Waal)
Subject: Re: Need help: parts-info in SIIa Gearbox !

>From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
>*If* the suffix letters are continuous across SII and SIII 'boxes then this
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>gearbox age.
>If this is so, a 'C' suffix has the solid "moulded" layshaft.

Nope, they're not. The Series III box is a redesign, all gears are synchro,
remember?

I thought that series II boxes only went to 'D', but it seems they made it
to 'E'. The boxes *I* have don't even *have* suffixes ('59 series II :-)

W

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:31:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Waxoyl: Good News

In a message dated 97-05-14 02:02:55 EDT, you write:

<< I called Triple-C and they said they don't carry it (Waxoyl) anymore. :(
 Mike Johnson N7WBO >>

This is very odd:  I called on Monday (5/11) and they told me they would be
getting it in again without further problems...(They said my order would have
to go on backorder but not to worry)

Maybe I'll call back again

Nate

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Subject: No WaxOyl
Date: Wed, 14 May 97 07:50:34 -0500
From: "Keith W. Cooper" <kwcooper@aristotle.net>

In reply to your message below:

>From: NADdMD@aol.com
>Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:31:29 -0400 (EDT)
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>http://www.triple-c.com  (They are located in York, PA)
>Nate

Nate-

I contacted Triple-C and was told that they no longer carry Waxoyl 
because it became too expensive to ship due to it being termed a 
"hazardous material".

I know that this has been a topic on the list in the past but, any ideas 
as to where else to look?  Or maybe I talked to the wrong source at 
Trip-C.

Thanks,
Keith

Keith W. Cooper,MD
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*            Dept. of Family and Community Medicine - UAMS              *
*                  "Arkansas Land Rover Association"                    *
*                          1996 Discovery SE                            *
*                          1964 SIIA 88" RHD                            *
*                                                                       *
*Visit our club's page at - http://www.aristotle.net/~kwcooper/LRV.html *
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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 22:39:28 +0900
From: Alan Logue <Logue@a011.aone.net.au>
Subject: Clivedon Collection - Land Rover & Disco keyrings etc

Greetings Roverphiles
Can anyone help me with locating the manufactirer or distributor for a
collection of Land Rover goodies such as pewter Discovery key rings, gold
Disco and Series pins and other such nice items. The ones I have seen are
marked CLIVEDEN COLLECTION and I believe they come from England. Our club
is looking to buy a quantity and I was hoping that someone may be able to
help us.
TIA
Alan
Logue & Associates
PO Box 689
Morphett Vale
South Australia 5162
ph 61+8+83844443   fax 61+8+83267227

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Clivedon Collection - Land Rover & Disco keyrings etc
Date: Wed, 14 May 97 14:42:49 BST

> Greetings Roverphiles
> Can anyone help me with locating the manufactirer or distributor for a
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 8 lines)]
> help us.
> TIA

Clivedon seem to specialise in aviation stuff (or did when I last saw
their brochures), but this was from stuff in air mags and RAF BF stuff.
They may do the odd landy - esp. something like a SIIA ambulance.
They might also be "persuaded" :-)
If you can get them to do an SIII 109 FFR...    :-)

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:31:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re recent posts: Waxoyl

I just called back Triple-C:

Philip (The big boss) says that they should have waxoyl in again this summer.
 It will be more expensive because the previous lame shipper (Some of you who
know the routing of sill trim sent to me from Calif. during the ENTIRE month
of April will know who I'm talking about) of this product will no longer
handle it and they are arranging other shipping.

Nate

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:36:07 +0200
From: Peter Kutschera <peter@zditf2.arcs.ac.at>
Subject: Re: Re: Need help: parts-info in SIIa Gearbox !

:) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:26:05 +0200
:) From: wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter de Waal)
:) 
:) >In my SIIA Gearbox (Gearbox number 25347943E) the layshaft cracks.
:) >On this layshaft there was a split ring holding gear 2 in position.
:) 	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 10 lines)]
:) >suffix e gearboxes don't have split rings on them. They are part of the lay
:) >shaft.
:) 
:) My catalog sez:
:) 09917: Layshaft Up to suffix A
:) 528703: B & C
:) 556040: From D onwards
:) 
:) and:
:) 
:) 239272: Split ring for 2d speed layshaft gear, up to suffix C inclusive.
:) 
:) BUT: 1st speed layshaft gear, 2nd speed layshaft gear, primary pinion and
:) constant gear, are all listed for "up to C inclusive" and "from D onwards",
:) so I would say that the layshafts are not compatible. (The bearings are the
:) same, so I would say that you can use any layshaft with the correct gears on
:) it in any gearbox though, it's just that the layshaft, transfer gear and 1st
:) + 2nd gears seem to make a set)
:) 
:) Wouter

Thanks! This was the best answer till now.

Maybe the PO replaced the layshaft or the gearbox-cover with the 
gearbox-number.

It's a 1968 SIIa 109 SW LHD Diesel. 
Frame numer: 28401627D
Engine:      27143513J
Gearbox:     25347943E ???

Any ideas how to verify the gearbox-suffix ?? (I found the nuber on the cover
above the selector shafts)
The version of my broken layshaft?
Any pictures available?
May the "not split ring" from a suffix E layshaft break away so the
layshaft may look like a sufix C? But it didn't look broken. There where 
definitly two halfes of a ring.

The parte on my layshaft looks like:

(front of the car)
...
Nut with split pin
shim
bearing in the bell housing            __       __
distance ring; about 1cm, looks like  /__|     |__\
one large gearwheel
a tube (about 13 cm)
gear for 3rd
gear for 2nd
split ring and crack in the layshaft 
 (The ring was split 2 years ago, the crack is new!)
about 4cm nothing on the layshaft
gear for 1st (was really a pain to remove from the broken layshaft)
bearing in the gearbox cover (now broken again)
...
(rear of the car)

If I order the wrong parts I will loose money and at least 14 days :-)
All ideas wellcome.

Thanks in advance
 Peter

-- 
Signature: Cogito ergo sum....I think....
Homepage:  http://zditr1.arcs.ac.at/~peter
Landrover: http://zditr1.arcs.ac.at/~peter/LR

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:54:18 +0200
From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
Subject: Re: SWB real speed on 750x16's

Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> wrote:
> I didn't realise that there was any difference between 88" and 109"
> wheels! I thought it was the tyres which made the difference (if any).

err.. sorry, when I said wheels, I meant tires.  Silly me.

> But if it is a problem, couldn't one fit a speedo from a 109 too?

You could I guess, but you could also just make the calculations (as
dictated by the real world).

> or is that too obvious? are there difference in the tranny etc which
> would render this solution a non-solution?

Don't know -- it never really bothered me until you asked for (i would
hope correct) mileage figures...  Anyone have any answers to that one?

- Iwan Vosloo
( 1975 SIII 88" Diesel )

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:47:27 -0400
From: Mike Gaines <106220.1234@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re metric

Hi Chaps,
                   Talkining about all the different types of
screws/nuts/bolts etc on military LRs someone (Franz?) mentioned it may
have somethng to do with NATO. In my expereince the only thing standard i=
n
NATO  was the coffee. (NATO Standard is with milk & two sugars)

Lightweight colours- the chrome finish lightweights belong(ed?) to the
Honourable Artillery Company a Terratorial Army outfit (like National Gua=
rd
in the US) which uses them  in London to tow their obsolete (and also
chromed) 25 pounder field guns to give ceremonial 21 gun salutes etc.

If God meant us to be Metric we'd all be French.

Cheers,
Mike Gaines Slll, Air Rover, `Wicked Wanda' =

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:28:54 -0400
From: Jan Ben <ben@lucent.com>
Subject: 3.9 motor recall - what was that?? Jim Allen?

Was I snoozing again?  What was the 3.9 block and 5-sp. tranny recall
for?  What year trucks?
Was that really a recall or just repair under warranty?
thx
Jan

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:57:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Ceremonial Lightweight ?

Well now I have gone and done it. I took the hardtop off the IIa Lightweight
I am in the process of painting and I made another interesting discovery.
Besides the fact that it had been originally painted dark blue the normally
galvanized cappings on the body and doors are CHROME plated. It is at this
time my intention to give it a "preservative" coat of NATO green but I have a
suspicion that it may have been one of the "ceremonial" RAF lightweights. The
chassis number I have in my records is 23601295b with an engine number of
23601416b I will go and confirm these numbers.
Now questions. 
 How can I find out for sure? Are the chassis numbers recorded somewhere?
D**m the loss of the Museum of Army Transport. Does any one in the UK have
contact with Wally Dugan , the curator, or the fellow who was in charge of
the records? British motor heritage has been less than helpful in the past in
regards to military vehicles but ? 
Does any one know of any resources /  experts I can talk to ?
Has LRO or LRW ever done an article on them ? 
Where am I ever going to find white leather seats? :-)
I remember seeing a picture of a ceremonial on the web, somewhere any one
know where? 
More details as they become available. 
I probably do not have the resources to restore it to it's possible former
glory the best I can do is keep it from getting any worse.
Rgds Quintin Aspin

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:57:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Lightweight Paint color Question

I am going to post this to the list but I thought you would be interested.
Rgds Quintin

Well now I have gone and done it. I took the hardtop off the Iia Lightweight
I am in the process of painting and I made another interesting discovery.
Besides the fact that it had been originally painted dark blue the normally
galvanized cappings on the body and doors are CHROME plated. It is at this
time my intention to give it a "preservative" coat of NATO green but I have a
suspicion that it may have been one of the "ceremonial" RAF lightweights. The
chassis number I have in my records is 23601295b with an engine number of
23601416b I will go and confirm these numbers.
Now questions. 
 How can I find out for sure? Are the chassis numbers recorded somewhere?
D**m the loss of the Museum of Army Transport. Does any one in the UK have
contact with Wally Dugan , the curator, or the fellow who was in charge of
the records? British motor heritage has been less than helpful in the past in
regards to military vehicles but ? 
Does any one know of any resources /  experts I can talk to ?
Has LRO or LRW ever done an article on them ? 
Where am I ever going to find white leather seats? :-)
I remember seeing a picture of a ceremonial on the web, somewhere any one
know where? 
More details as they become available. 
I probably do not have the resources to restore it to it's possible former
glory the best I can do is keep it from getting any worse.
Rgds Quintin Aspin

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:57:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Lightweight Paint color Question 

I am going to post this to the list but I thought you would be interested.
Rgds Quintin

Well now I have gone and done it. I took the hardtop off the Iia Lightweight
I am in the process of painting and I made another interesting discovery.
Besides the fact that it had been originally painted dark blue the normally
galvanized cappings on the body and doors are CHROME plated. It is at this
time my intention to give it a "preservative" coat of NATO green but I have a
suspicion that it may have been one of the "ceremonial" RAF lightweights. The
chassis number I have in my records is 23601295b with an engine number of
23601416b I will go and confirm these numbers.
Now questions. 
 How can I find out for sure? Are the chassis numbers recorded somewhere?
D**m the loss of the Museum of Army Transport. Does any one in the UK have
contact with Wally Dugan , the curator, or the fellow who was in charge of
the records? British motor heritage has been less than helpful in the past in
regards to military vehicles but ? 
Does any one know of any resources /  experts I can talk to ?
Has LRO or LRW ever done an article on them ? 
Where am I ever going to find white leather seats? :-)
I remember seeing a picture of a ceremonial on the web, somewhere any one
know where? 
More details as they become available. 
I probably do not have the resources to restore it to it's possible former
glory the best I can do is keep it from getting any worse.
Rgds Quintin Aspin

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:02:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: WOOPS.

Sorry about the redundant duplication of superfluous verbiage.

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:12:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Snark & Leaks...

Daniel asked:

>For those of you with Weber 2bbl, what kind of mileage are you getting. [snip]

Oh, you suppose that I have an odometer that works!

Granny

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Date: Wed, 14 May 97 17:51:52 CST
From: "David Nalder" <David_Nalder_at_DTT.HU.BUDAPEST@dttus.com>
Subject: Events in Hungary/eu-lro list/age

     I posted a message to the eu-lro list, but it was rejected :-( Is it 
     down?
     
     Does anyone know of any Landrover events in (or around) Budapest 
     Hungary (for a spectator only - my 110 is back home (New Zealand) in 
     storage for the forseeable future).  Sorry for addressing this to the 
     worldwide list.
     
     Sorry also for keeping this thread going but in order to get the 
     average down: I'm 26 and my 110 V8 is 12, bought 5 years ago by me 
     after I got a real job, and with much help from a friendly bank 
     manager.
     First car:  1975 T*y*t* Corrola where the orange of the paintwork was 
     matched only by the orange of the rust - well, on the few panels that 
     hadn't fallen off.
     
     David Nalder
     85 110 V8 (in hibernation)
     

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:59:24 +0100
From: jon collins <jonathan.collins@virgin.net>
Subject: HELP! Fairey winch

We havw found a large fairey drum winch at the local scrappy. It mounts 
on the front bumper and is driven of the PTO. Unlike the capstan winches 
that we have seen, it doesent obtain power from the starter dog. This 
winch is Very big and has large amounts of heavy duty cable on it. The 
control leaver for the PTO comes up through the floor of the cab, and 
there is another leaver on the winch body. Does anybody have any 
experience of mounting and using PTO driven winches or overdrive units. 
The asking price is 150 pounds. Anybody have comments or experience with 
these?

Best regards Jon

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:08:05 +0200
From: Chris Swart <swartc@iafrica.com>
Subject: Re: Metrics and Mike's hate

Hi
My family left (escaped) Europe in 1697 (that's right, three centuries
ago).
I have viewed the postings as an entertaining mix of banality and fact
with *no* intended animosity.
Perception of intent is so, so interesting!!!
If only my Landy had a load capacity that could accomodate all the
multiple tool prefixes and suffixes she needs and my girlfriend had far
fewer tools to choose from when *handing* me, in a cold, wet, yoga
position.
Regards.
Chris Swart
swartc@iafrica.com

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:29:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Speedos

>From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
>Subject: SWB real speed on 750x16's

>.I would love to know how to *calculate* my real speed and distance from
the readings I get.  My SWB is standard all over except it has the 109
wheels.

 The difference is the ratio of 1400 to 1500, which makes your 7%
calculation pretty good , The speedo on the swb with 6 or 6.5 tyres is
calibrated for 1500 revolutuions per mile. The LWB speedo with 7.5 tyres is
calibrated for 1400 revolutions per mile.
Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:21:07 -0400
From: Brett Storey <brstore@ibm.net>
Subject: Looking for Jared Silbersher

G'day all

Tom Tollefson, a 101 owner here in Toronto, would like to get in touch
with Jared Silbersher to talk about 101's. If anybody has a current
phone # or email address for Jared could you please let me know and I'll
forward it to Tom.

Thanks

Brett
brstore@ibm.net

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:57:56 +0000
From: Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod <tantramar@golden.net>
Subject: Engine colours

Can anyone tell me the colour of the engine block on a '55 S1?  I have
been told that a light green was common.   

A Cummins deisel green has been suggested, but I can't find it here.  
There is a Detroit Deisel Alpine green that looks quite good (all high
temp).

Any one had any sucess with these colours?

Cheers, Ian

BTW, does the head get painted as well, or just the block?   And the
exhaust manifold-black?
-- 
Ian Harper/Donna Claire McLeod
http://www.golden.net/~tantramar
Tantramar House Bed and Breakfast
Stratford, Ontario
Phone(519) 273-7771  Fax (519) 273-3993

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Clivedon Collection - Land Rover & Disco keyrings etc
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:58:00 +1000

Alan,

Check out Rover Australia's magazine "Experience" at your newsagent.
They have a number of products for sale.  You might try your local Rover
dealer.  I noticed that Asquith & Johnstone in Sydeny had a cabinet full
of stuff.

Unfortunately I don't have a copy of Experience with me - I sent it on
to Michael Carradine.

Ron Beckett
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From: Alan Logue
Cc: lro@playground.sun.com
Subject: Clivedon Collection - Land Rover & Disco keyrings etc
Date: Wednesday, 14 May 1997 11:39PM

Greetings Roverphiles
Can anyone help me with locating the manufactirer or distributor for a
collection of Land Rover goodies such as pewter Discovery key rings,
gold
Disco and Series pins and other such nice items. The ones I have seen
are
marked CLIVEDEN COLLECTION and I believe they come from England. Our
club
is looking to buy a quantity and I was hoping that someone may be able
to
help us.
TIA
Alan
Logue & Associates
PO Box 689
Morphett Vale
South Australia 5162
ph 61+8+83844443   fax 61+8+83267227

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:54:57 -0500
From: blainh@accent.net (Blain Hughes)
Subject: Shocks

Thanks to everyone who replied to my tire query. I have passed on all the
information that I received.
I have another question. Can anyone supply a Munroe shock crossover number
for a series Land-Rover. I am working on my 11a and Iwould like to come up
with a cheap shock solution.
Thanks
Blain

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:37:47 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: What a SIGHTING. 

On Tue, 13 May 1997, SPYDERS@aol.com insinuated:

>On the cover of the latest Victoria's Secret catalog.
>Somewhere down in the caribbean... Allan Smith, do you have *anything* to 
>do with this. 

Hell no!

Still, I should probably check. Just to be sure, that is. I mean a 90 Tdi 
with distracting foreground looks similar, doesn't it? After all, it is now 
immortalised (by chance)in one of a series of beach scenics done by a local 
photographer for a display in the Royal Bank of Canada. Who knows what 
other shoots it may have been part of without my knowing.
Er..what issue was that, by the way?

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:24:53 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Engine colours

Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod wrote:
> Can anyone tell me the colour of the engine block on a '55 S1?  I have
> been told that a light green was common.
> A Cummins deisel green has been suggested, but I can't find it here.
> There is a Detroit Deisel Alpine green that looks quite good (all high
> temp).

If the engine has not been cleaned too virgourosly or "hot tanked" you
might find patches of the original paint under particularly thick oil
deposits. You might want to join the SI Club. Dues for overseas members
are around 20#/year. Their magazine is very good, and I think it has had
info on engine paint colors recently. If you're a member you can contact
the relevant technical officer for assistance.

Regards,
David Cockey

Series One Club
Membership Secretary
12 Black Lawn
Gillingham, Dorset SP8 4SD

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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 01:19:43 +0100
From: The Big Guy <guru@manhole.ow.nl>
Subject: Re: 900-16 tires

greetings,

To those who were interested in the posibilities of 9.00x16 tires under 
the 109, I HAD a set under mine (SIII 109 ex-RAF). My advice is dont do 
it. My main problems were the rim offset was original for the 7.50x16's 
so my turn radius became non-existant (ever heard the song "gimme 40 
acres and I'll turn this rig around" ;-) ). Next, the bigger dia. of the 
tires places you engine way out of the proper "power band" (couldnt get 
above 60mph before the engine fell on its face because the revs were too 
low). In addition, I needed to fit a steering damper (the weight of these 
tires will tear up your front axle in short order). All in all I was glad 
I got rid of mine and put 205's under it (although I would still like to 
go back to 7.50x16's).

Cheers,
Todd

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:11:47 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: Re: 900-16 tires

The Big Guy wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> greetings,
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 19 lines)]
> Cheers,
> Todd

Yup, must agree with Todd. I seriously investigated the 900X16 issue two
years ago - I was mesmerised by the phenominal floatation of the
900X16's on soft sand - but was forced to abandon the idea because of
the turning circle and the gearing.

Another point is that most 900X16's are designed as agricultural tyres
(for use on farm trailers, etc) and therefore only rated for sometimes
as low as 40km/h. Which given the gearing would probably be terminal
velocity in any case.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
"into Africa adventures" The African Adventure-travel Webzine
http://www.adventures.co.za
"AfricanAdrenalin" Sign up for adventure here...
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: Re metric
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:25:03 +0200 (MET DST)

|                    Talkining about all the different types of
| screws/nuts/bolts etc on military LRs someone (Franz?) mentioned it may
| have somethng to do with NATO.
No, 'twasn't me. Mike just commented on my 110. But I don't think that
the mixture has to do with the military. LR just started to use metric
with the coilers. So every new piece is metric (eg. transmission) and
the older things are still imperial.

Cheers,
Franz
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz

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