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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Distributor Wobble
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:12:00 +1000

Con Seitl wrote:
>really does a wobble on the mounting plate, all is secure and real
>strange looking. I'm almost thinking I have a bent cam, but it works

just
>fine at the moment.

I had a similar problem with my Hillman Hunter from the day I bought it
in 1971 (although at the time I hadn't recognised the cause.  It
manifested itself as apparent cam runout and hard starting which the
dealer could never solve.

When I dismantled the distributor I found the upper distributor shaft to
be
bent. I straightened it out and it's been fine since.  This also the
hard
starting problem.
I can only assume that the distributor had been dropped either in the
Lucas factory or at the Chrysler plant where the Hillman was built in
Australia.

Regards,
Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
'87 Rangie 4.8 L Auto
'71 HE Hillman Hunter Royal 660 Manual
'67 HA Hillman Gazelle Auto

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Subject: Re: News Flash! NAS D90 Hardtop Allocation
From: Ketil Kirkerud <ketilk@a.sol.no>
Date: 11 May 1997 17:49:47 +0200

David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu> writes:

> Does anyone have any inside info?  Are they developing airbags?  Will
> the Defender ever makes its way across the pond again?

I wouldn't know about US sales of the Defenders, but I _do_ know
that one of the options offered on new Defenders is, indeed, 
a (driver's side) Airbag. A friend of mine has ordered (but not received,
yet) a new D90, and both the pricelist and the brochure mentioned this
option. (Which is, for some strange reason, a combo of Airbag and Aircon -
if you want it factory-fitted, you have to buy both. The premium was approx.
$2200, in Norway).

I'd guess that since they've managed to implement a driver's side airbag, 
implementing a passenger side airbag shouldn't be too difficult.

-- 
---Ketil Kirkerud, 1979 109" SW 21/4Petrol.

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From: WAHORN@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 13:32:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Series III for Sale

If anyone is interested I have found a 1975 Series III 88" for sale in
Jacksonville FL. U.S.A.
The owner is Bruce Hebel, Home phone 904-261-8265 Work 904-924-2825. The
Rover is pretty rough but has some new parts (exhaust manifold, exhaust,
timing Gears & Chain and distributor.I believe he wants about $1800.00

Ashley Horn

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:14:50 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: News Flash! NAS D90 Hardtop Allocation

Ketil Kirkerud wrote from Norway:
> I wouldn't know about US sales of the Defenders, but I _do_ know
> that one of the options offered on new Defenders is, indeed,
> a (driver's side) Airbag.
> I'd guess that since they've managed to implement a driver's side airbag,
> implementing a passenger side airbag shouldn't be too difficult.

Presumably this is a European "face bag", not a US compliant airbag.
Adding a face bag is simple compared to meeting the US performance
requirements for unrestrained driver protection. And the driver is much
simplier to protect than meeting the passenger side requirements. These
requirements are mandatory in '98 for trucks. To get an idea of the
amount of rework required compare a new Wrangler with the previous
generation. The dash area including structure was completely redesigned.
I'd guess LR would have to do as much as Jeep did plus a major redesign
of the front of the frame.

LR is supposedly working on a Defender replacement for 2000 (or later).
I don't know anything other than they have been testing some advanced
structural concepts. In the meantime they will probably keep the current
Defender going, with minimal investment for the civilian market.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:42:57 +0100
From: Sparkers <stevehobbs@enterprise.net>
Subject: Re: Two quarts into a pint pot

In message <bulk.11099.19970510131116@Land-Rover.Team.Net>
          Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> wrote:

> Had to change heater water valve on motor, so I drained the coolant from
> the bottom of the radiator into an empty bucket.
<snip>
> But when the radiator was full to the brim, and I had squeezed hoses for
> air bubbles, there was still about half-a-gallon in the bucket.

The air heater radiator takes some, and the rad. overflow bottle takes quite a bit too. Other than that, ?????

Regards,

-- 
Steve Hobbs.
.. If at first you don't succeed, you're doing about average.

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:24:59 -0700
From: "Clinton D. Coates" <Clinton_Coates@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Oil filter numbers

Hi Granny,

I order my oil filters (the short ones) from NAPA.  I think their number 
is either 1066, 1099 or 1069.  I actually have ordered only two for 
spares as the MR Lube place I go to always seems to have a stash to fit 
older beemers and such.  If no one has the exact number, let me know and 
I will dig it out.

Clinton

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:33:43 -0700
From: "Clinton D. Coates" <Clinton_Coates@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Kamloops Landy

Hi Rob

The 109 was, I think a 1969 SW with no roof rack.  I was the one that 
mentioned it to AJR a month ago or so to put it on the list.  I have heard 
that the guy who bought it is on the 'net and was wondering if he was on this 
list or not.  He is apparently *not* happy with it, having bought it for 
primary transportation.  As I had said, the frame would have needed some 
welding, especially around the front outriggers.  I still think it would have 
been a nice resto base for a frame over.  It had an 8:1 2.25 petrol with 
about 90K original on it and it *sounded* good.  When I had mentioned it to 
AJR, I had said (I hope I had said?) that I had not gone over the frame in 
detail with a hammer and icepick.

I want to get ahold of the guy as I would like to see this truck put 
shipshape and not turn into a personal horror story (already been down that 
route a few years back).

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Any ideas why my head gasket leaked?  I want to put it back together 
tomorrow, but would like not having to take it apart again in 18 miles.

Regards

Clinton

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:35:38 -0700
From: "Clinton D. Coates" <Clinton_Coates@bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Distributor Wobble

Con,

Could the dizzy bushing be worn/loose or reamed to large?

Good luck

Clinton

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: scooper@scooper.seanet.com (John & Sandy Cooper)
Subject: Sighting

My neighbor just spotted a 109 4 door (red) in Lake Stevens, Washington
(state) U.S.A.  Is this anyone on our list?
John Cooper 1969 11a

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:08:58 -0400
From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: ANOTHER GET-TOGETHER FER D.C.

At 11:29 -0400 5/9/97, Adams, Bill wrote:
>Time to meet for another session of BBQ and BS. NOT another hang-out at
>Don Beyer's this time! Same place as last time...the Sweetgum picnic area
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>'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
>'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
>"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

I'll be there.

David Russell
David_R@mindspring.com
1969 Series IIA SWB (runs great, just needs a new frame)
1977 FJ-40 Land Cruiser (non-running) rusted-out hulk
1996 Grand Cherokee--"I will be a Discovery soon"

http://www.mindspring.com/~david_r 

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:41 -0500
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Sighting

Hi All,
 I have spotted a series III 88 at a repair shop with the plate of 
"PRE DSCO" . IS the owner on this list???? 
Regards, 
Rob Davis_chicago

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:36:07 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Steering Problem

I'm having a little trouble with the steering on my Discovery.  About 6
weeks ago the fluid resivour (I can't spell) was leaking. Alot. The
dealer replaced the resivour and all of the hoses and clamps.  Problem
solved, I thought.  3 weeks ago my power steering pump starting making
noise again.  So, I checked the fluid level.  There was virtually no
fluid.  So I added some.  The odd thing was there was no visable leaks.
And I haven't seen any puddles.  I figured maybe there was some air in
the system and it finaly bled out.  Well, for the past 3 weeks I haven't
had any problems, untill today.  The steering pump was making alot of
noise again.  When I checked the fluid, nothing!  There was a little at
the bottom and it was milky and a little frothy.  Were is all the fluid
going? It seems like its drinking it, yummy :-)  What makes steering
fluid milky? I've never seen this before?  Is there water in the
system?  I hope someone can help me.  I really don't want to add power
steering fluid every 3 weeks.

Rover On,
David L Glaser          '94 La Ruta Maya Discovery #6 (Fluid Drinker)
dlglaser@wam.umd.edu    '94 Discovery, Teal

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 17:25:36 -0800
From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Landys by the Seaside

From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

>Whilst discussing the suitability of a LR as a support vehicle for SCUBA
>diving on another list, some disagreement was had about how well it would
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>Apart from the frame and other steel bits, will exposure to salt water
>result in excessive corrosion of the Brimabright?

I fly seaplanes in a saltwater environment.  Seaplanes are very much like
Land Rovers, aluminum panels and structural members with steel fixtures,
brackets, fastners, etc.  When you mix metals and add an electrolyte (in
your case the salt water or moisture in the air), the one lowest down on
the galvanic chart is sacrificed.  That's why boats have zinc bars mounted
on their hulls; the bars get "eaten" away by electrolysis, not the hull.
The bars, of course, have to be periodically replaced.

Aluminum is lower down the chart than steel, so the aluminum will corrode
away over time depending on the severity of salt exposure and the degree to
which the vehicle is kept salt-free.  And don't put any stainless steel
fastners in your Land Rover; it will simply speed up the corrosion process.

While the aluminum body panels will not be susceptible to rust, a definite
advantage over steel panels, they WILL be susceptible to corrosion,
especially where they fasten to the steel substructure and frame.  Your
best bet is to do with our floatplanes at the end of every day's operation
in salt water, which is every day.  Hose your vehicle off thoroughly with
soap and water, including the frame and underbody.

________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 17:34:01 -0800
From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: News Flash! NAS D90 Hardtop Allocation 

From: Benjamin Allan Smith (Pencom) <Benjamin.Smith@sv.sc.philips.com>

In message <199705092210.MAA20834@unix.off-road.com>you write:

> I just got back from our local LR dealer here in Bellevue, Washington
> (near Seattle) where they advised me that they'd just gotten word that
> there will indeed be another allocation of NAS D90 hard tops before the
> end of the year.  Hurray!

	Interesting.  Same old LR song and dance.

While the on-again off-again importation of Defenders had kept everyone
guessing and has eroded LRNA's credibility a fair amount, there is a finite
end to the situation.  Unless Land Rover spends several million pounds to
redesign the Defender's front end, doors, and interior, the vehicle will
not meet the uprated government crash and safety specs that become
mandatory (I believe) next year.  So far, Land Rover has stated
catagorically that they do not intend to spend the money necesssary to
redesign the Defender for the US market.

So unless LRNA can get a waiver to the new requirments, or the
implementation of the federal requirements is postponed, or Land Rover
decides to make the necessary changes to the vehicle, there will, in fact,
be no more Defenders imported after a certain point because they will be
illegal in the eyes of Uncle Sam.

________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: BradJDavis@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:06:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 88" For Sale

I'm afraid college expenses are forcing the sale of my 1960 Ser. II 88". Here
are the details: It's a clean, rust-free California Rover in terrific
condition.   The engine and gearbox both have been rebuilt in the past few
years. The swivels, clutch hydraulics, clutch, and starter have all been
rebuilt or replaced recently. It has a tropical top, Fairey overdrive unit,
Weber carburetor, alternator, hand throttle, locking hubs, cassette stereo,
inertia-reel seatbelts, headliner, four Hella lights, and a jerry can rack on
the back that swings out and down for sleeping. The electrical system has
been completely updated, and it's pre-smog which should save you some
headaches if you're a Californian. There's a set of 15" wheels on it now, and
it also has a set of 16" wheels and a set of oversized 15" wheels/tires for
sand or mud (15 wheels, hope you have room!) 
 Scotty has worked on the Rover and is pretty familiar with it. He'll be
happy to answer any questions about it as, of course, will I. It's really a
great Rover in terrific running condition that I hate to sell, but such is
life. I'm asking $11,900, which those familiar with the car and I have
determined to be a fair price for the condition it's in. If you're
interested, give me a call or e-mail me any time.

Thanks,
Bradford Davis
(510) 254-3115
BradJDavis@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:14:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hank Rutherford <ruthrfrd@borg.com>
Subject: Two Quarts, etc.

Adrian,
   Sounds as if the thermostat is doing its job of staying closed until the
engine comes up to temp. Next time you pull the thermostat, drill a small
hole in the ring that surrounds the moveable valve. This will allow the
cooling system to bleed itself during filling. This will not affect the
operation of said thermostat unless the hole is installed in the wrong place
or is too large. 1/16 in. is fine in the colonies, about 2 mm is good in the
rest of the civilized world except in UK where things are measured in
whitworths (a unit of measurement based on barleycorns, I believe).
        Regards, Ruthrfrd@borg.com
 

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:21:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hank Rutherford <ruthrfrd@borg.com>
Subject: Nature abhors, etc.

Nature abhors a vacuum and J**ps, respectively.

                  Ruthrfrd@borg.com

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:34:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Oil Filter cross-over number

Here are some oil filter numbers. Hope these help ya out, Granny!! I use the
Napa number myself, but have used the Purolator one before, too. Got it at
Pep Boys.

Caterpiller 676228
NAPA 1099 
World Parts W 27-370
Delco AC-72
Fram CH-834PL1
Hastings P-186
Kralinator L-532
AC           AC72                              
Fram        CH834PL1                      
NAPA     1099      

 Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, just about a couple dozen satisfied
customers!!                         
Hastings  P-186  

                            
                                        

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Two Quarts, etc.
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:23:00 +1000

From: Hank Rutherford>
drill a small hole in the ring that surrounds the moveable valve.
>This will allow the cooling system to bleed itself during filling.

You may find the thermostat already has this.  It is normal
to have the beeld hole albeit sometimes with a little nylon
ball valve through it.

Regards,

Ron

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From: finchm@sky3.bskyb.com
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 7:57:42 +0000
Subject: Canada trip '97

Hi to all LR fans In Canada,

Myself and my girfriend are travelling to Canada on the 9th June 1997, we
will be travelling through British Columba and Alberta, We start in
Vancouver, then travel to Vancouver Island , up to Port Hardy , then to
Prince Rupert, then to Prince George, then to jasper and Banff, from here t=
o
Kamloops, then to Whislter and back to Vancouver.

My question is there anything that I should not miss on a tour like this an=
d
are there any tourist places not worth going to?

Also is there any small rare objects for LR etc that anybody wants( only go=
t
two suitcases and hand luggage so no engines/gearboxes/chassis please)

Also can any body reocmmend good reasonable resaurants etc

Also are clothes etc chaeper  there than here in the UK..

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Airborne Ranger's Rover
Date: Mon, 12 May 97 8:53:23 BST

I have one of the LRO military books (collections of mil. articles). This
has a colour picture of the Landy you describe. I don't have the book handy,
but I seem to remember it being a "special project" which took Solihull a
little while to disclose who it was for.

A non-pink 110-based Pink Panther is a good description.

Of course, they were only copying the SAS! :-)

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> There's another display out on the Mall here in D.C. today. It consists 
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> '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
> '81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
> "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: "Delve, Trefor" <delve1t@nectech.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Whitworth, Metric and A/F Differences
Date: Mon, 12 May 97 09:03:00 GMT

Ron,

>If anyone wants any more info I can scan the section
>of the book and email it to them.

If you do scan the text, I would be interested in seeing it.

Regards,

Trefor
tdelve@nectech.co.uk  

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Zenith Port-Blocking Brigade
Date: Mon, 12 May 97 9:57:07 BST

To the Zenith Port-Blocking Brigade:

What are the symptoms if the port isn't blocked?

The garage that did my MoT reckons I have a "carburettor fault" - I commented
it was running rich, and basically, they couldn't adjust it out
(and didn't charge me anyway). Okay on idle, but goes off scale on the
emissions when you put your foot down. This fits with visual observation,
when warm, no smoke/very little smoke unless you put your foot down!

The carb is only 6 months old, so I'm a little loathed to take it apart,
but if I do, I should order a carb. gasket kit this week...

Does anyone have any other suggestions what the problem could be?

The deep vibration, was indeed the UJs on the rear propshaft. I ordered a pair
of UJs, but had the garage fit them (lack of time on my part). The difference
is unbelievable! Now, I don't understand why one UJ went west whilst out of
use (and sitting on a box) for 3 months!

Cheers,

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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From: lenny@fof.coracle.com (Lenny Warren)
Date: 10 May 97 21:14:46 +0000
Subject: SER: barbie on a grill???

From: lenny@fof.coracle.com (Lenny Warren)

Hi folks,

I know, I know, It's gonna start a silly thread again, but I need to 
know for health reasons!!!

I'm building a barbecue in my back garden and I wanted to use my old ser 
2a grille to cook on!

Will I poison myself????? I know all the books say the Aussies use the 
grilles to cook, but someone on this list said a while back that you 
would get Zinc poisoning????

Any thoughts??? It would be a great talking point for the barbie!!! 
 
Catch you later,
Lenny...                                                                  33/5
_____________________________________________________________________________
                                                         _______ 
   Lenny Warren,                                    ____/_|(__)|
   Strathaven, Scotland, UK.                        |--|__|_--_| 
__ 1980 ser III 88" Diesel   _____" LURCH "__________(o)____(o)______________
_____________________________________________________________________________

 
... After we pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is NOT our friend!
--- Terminate 4.00/Pro
--
| Fidonet:  Lenny Warren 2:259/36.12
| Internet: lenny@fof.coracle.com

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: SER: barbie on a grill???
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:19:20 +0200 (MET DST)

Hi Lenny,
| I'm building a barbecue in my back garden and I wanted to use my old ser 
| 2a grille to cook on!
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| grilles to cook, but someone on this list said a while back that you 
| would get Zinc poisoning????

I wouldn't do it. Zincoxid is definitely poisonous.
Perhaps you should sandblast and chrome it before you use it for the bbc.
Just a thought...
Franz
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz

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From: "Delve, Trefor" <delve1t@nectech.co.uk>
Subject: SII Clutch Lever Bush
Date: Mon, 12 May 97 11:05:00 GMT

All,

This is a SII question.

Does anyone have any tips on how to fit the Brass (Phosphor Bronze ?)   
spherical bush on the clutch operating lever ?

My attempt to heat it up before tapping it on resulted in the bush   
splitting.

Any advice gratefully accepted.

Trefor
tdelve@nectech.co.uk

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