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Subject: Synthetics
From: robot1@juno.com (Mark E Hardig)
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 10:06:34 EDT

C. Marin Faure writes:

has
>been run for some time on non-synthetic oil to synthetic oil can create
the
>most amazing oil leaks from every joint and seam in the engine.

At the risk of repeating the post of another owner, synthetics tend to
agressively clean out the grunge masking existing leaks. Synthetic oils
DO NOT CAUSE OIL LEAKS.
I use synthetics as a matter of time economy. A 3000 mile oil change
would mean I'd be crawling on the ground every saturday morning, and I
have better things to do. 
On the other hand, synthetics tend to bond to engine parts making
starting after long idle periods easier on the engine. 
I intend to use nothing but synthetics on my Rover for as long as I own
it. If I only drove 10 miles a day, or I had the time to change oil every
weekend, I'd maybe use regular oils; still, synthetics are cheaper.
Compare:
1 qt of Mobil API SG 10w30 crude @ $1.35 / 3000 miles  0.00045/mile
1 qt of Mobil 1 API SG 10w30@ $3.80 / 12000 miles 0.00032/mile
Prices from this morning's Wal-Mart sale flier. This of course does not
include the labor, which would be 4 times the amount.
Just my $.02

Mark

P.S. If anyone REALLY wants to stop some oil leaks, I still have, hidden
in my garage, a few cans(yes, CANS) of ARCO Graphite, that late-70's
engine sludge-in-a-can that was the snake oil of it's generation. I'll
even throw in a self piercing can spout; purchased when I'd finally
gotten tired of using a screwdriver and hoping for the best. Shortly
after, screw top bottles became widespread. Go figure.

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:38:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens)
Subject: Re: Zenith woes

I'm a firm believer in the Zenith-plug-that-hole following. Just followed
the receipe and fixed my troublesome 36IVE which I'd recently rebuilt. Oh,
during the rebuild I discovered that the throttle butterfly was not really
round anymore. I slipped in a new shaft and throttle plate (without the
poppet valve and little hole) and everything works fine. Should I be
concerned?

Chris Stevens
Towson, MD
1969 Series IIA 88"SW

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 12:39:06 -0400
From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com>
Subject: Billing '98

My wife and I would like to visit Billing 1998 for the 50th anniversary
celebrations. Where exactly, in relation to London and the Welsh border, is
it. I have relatives in Wales and friends in Scotland (I know that's not
practical for Billing but later in the trip.)

Does anyone have any tips on making this as economical as possible
(lodging, Land Rover rental v. public transport)?

This is something we really want to do an that's why I'm starting to plan
it now.

Thanks to all!

Cheers

David Russell
David_R@mindspring.com
1969 Series IIA SWB (runs great, just needs a new frame)
1977 FJ-40 Land Cruiser (non-running) rusted-out hulk
1996 Grand Cherokee--"I will be a Discovery soon"

http://www.mindspring.com/~david_r 

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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 11:20:00 -0600
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: Odd sighting

At 01:58 AM 04/05/97 -0400, David L Glaser, wrote

>I have an idea!!  I think a South African diplomat owns it. I met him 2
>weeks ago.  where did you see it??

In the Lake Lousie ski hill parking lot, about 45 minutes north of Banff.
In amongst all the stickers and decals I also remember seeing a "Series 1
Club" sticker, as well as GB and AUS stickers

			Rick Grant

			1959, SII   "VORIZO"  

rgrant@cadvision.com	
www.cadvision.com/rgrant
Cobra Media Communications.  Calgary, Canada
Aboriginal and International Relief Issues

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From: "Jean Gruneberg" <grunberg@iafrica.com>
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 19:33:54 +0200
Subject: SA Diplomat

>I have an idea!!  I think a South African diplomat owns it. I met him 2
>weeks ago.  where did you see it??
 OK, so how do I get into the SA diplomatic corp??

Later
Jean
_______________________________________________________
Jean Andre Gruneberg

P.O.Box 201010  Durban North  4016  South Africa 
c-ph 082 551 8433    e-mail grunberg@iafrica.com

The road less travelled is ours to explore
L.L.Cool.J

Every normal person must be tempted at times to spit on his hands,
hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
H. L. Mencken

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 11:11:09 -0800
From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Series brake shoes

From: The Richards <smrm@coastalnet.com>
Subject: Series brake shoes

> My Series III has 11inch front brakes shoes. They have begun squealing,
>really loud. I cleaned and 'roughed' them, this worked for a few days, but
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>supplier out there? Were these shoes Rover specific, or can I cross
>reference them elsewhere?

The best thing to do is have the shoes re-lined.  Any decent brake shop can
do this, and there are a variety of linings you can specify.  Part of the
problem with squealing brakes is due to the fact that asbestos has been
banned for use in brake linings as of a few years ago.  Kind of a dumb
thing to do, in my opinion, but the panic over asbestos caused a lot of
over-reaction and a bunch of poorly thought out regulations.  But that's
another topic.  But even today, there are varying degrees of hardness in
the legal brake linings.  Take your shoes to a brake specialist and have
them re-lined with the softest lining available.  This will do a lot to
cure your squealing, and you'll have more braking power.  The downside is
that the softer lining wears down faster, so you'll need to have them
relined more often than if you use a hard lining.

I've owned my Series III since it was new in 1973.  I have two complete
sets of brakes shoes, one on the vehicle and the other waiting to be
re-lined.  That one extra set of brake shoes are the only shoes I've ever
had to purchase.

________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 14:54:01 -0400
From: Mike Gaines <106220.1234@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re Shiny Lightweights

Hi All,                                          
Way to go Todd! The only shiny bits on mine (apart from the usual oil
slicks) is two new tyres which I'll dirty up in the morning rain forecast =
mud 8^).  Actually there is a poofy army outfit in London which has Lt/Wts
with chromed bumpers -- they look bloody stupid.
BTW what happened to yesterday's digest?
Cheers
Mike Gaines Slll Lt Wt `Wicked Wanda'

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 17:37:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: GPS info needed

Does anyone on the list know a source for plans to build an antenna/dish for
a Garmin GPS40? What freq or band do they use? The windshield on the 88 is
too steep to get a good reading and the antennae cost too much.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, just about a couple dozen satisfied
customers!!

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 16:57:07 -6
From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Subject: Owners in St. Loius, MO area?

I'm going to be in St Louis next Sat. (May 10th) for a conference. It 
doesn't start until Sunday so I was wondering if there are any Rover 
owners nearby that would be willing to point out the local watering 
holes? Beer that is. Any good brewpubs?

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 20:15:58 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Billing '98

David Russell is planning early for '98:
> My wife and I would like to visit Billing 1998 for the 50th anniversary
> celebrations. Where exactly, in relation to London and the Welsh border, is
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> Does anyone have any tips on making this as economical as possible
> (lodging, Land Rover rental v. public transport)?

Billing Aquadrome is just east of Northampton off the A45. Northampton
is 50 miles or so northwest of London on the M1. The Welsh border is 100
miles to the west. Northampton is on one of the main train routes, and
you should be able to get a taxi from the station for a few pounds.

Trains connect the major cities in Britain, but are not inexpensive. A
one day roundtrip from London to Northampton is probably 20 pounds per
adult. Car rental is suggested for anyone planning to tour outside the
major cities. It is actually not that expensive assuming you 1) rent a
manual transmission 2) rent a small car 3) rent well in advance of your
trip. You will need to drive on the left though.

Our usual lodgings in Britain are bed & breakfasts. Two years ago the
going rate was around 17 pounds per person including a very full
breakfast. You may not always have a private bath, but you will meet
some delightful folks. We generally don't book in advance, and either
just look for a B&B sign or check at the local Tourist Bureau in the
late afternoon. Tenting is another option at Billing.

Anyone contemplating a trip to Britain should invest in: 1) a map or
Britain to understand the general geography 2) a 4 miles to the inch or
so road atlas to locate all the interesting places you hear about. These
greatly simplify planning and are available at larger bookstores.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 20:25:31 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: GPS info needed

> Does anyone on the list know a source for plans to build an antenna/dish for
> a Garmin GPS40? What freq or band do they use? The windshield on the 88 is
> too steep to get a good reading and the antennae cost too much.

Some of the GPS units (such as Magellen XL and Garmin GPS 45) with the
swiveling stick type antenna have passive 6 foot remote antenna cables
available. This doesn't work for units with patch antennas such as the
GPS 40. Your best bet may be to sell the GPS 40 to a non-LR owner and
get a unit with the stick antenna.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 21:40:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hank Rutherford <ruthrfrd@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Purchasing Parts in the UK

Has anyone had any experience with buying parts from P.A. Blanchard?
Are they a good parts supplier or create problems by shipping the wrong
stuff?   
-- 
Rob Davis_chicago

Rob,
   Recently received an order consisting of steering relays, swivel
spheres/orbs/balls/chrome thingys, gaiter kits, etc. Delivery was prompt to
the Eastern US, prices competitive with other UK suppliers and service was
decent. IMHO, they are reputable and knowledgeable.

    Regards, Ruthrfrd@borg.com

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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 21:53:33 -0400
From: "David M. Schwarz" <dschwarz@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: GPS info needed

For a source for plans to build an antenna/dish for
a Garmin GPS40?  Try following the "sci.geo.satellite-nav" newsgroup.
Some, or most, of the people who contribute to it seem to know the subject
extremely well.  I just bought a Garmin 12XL and an amplified antenna with
magnetic base which I put on the roof of my Discovery.   The antenna came
from Lowe Electronics in the U.K. 

	I came across the information concerning the antenna on the web, found
their site, and E-mailed them a credit card number.  The antenna and a
combination power/data cord came within a day or three.  The cord has
branches, one from the cigarette lighter brings power to the GPS unit, the
other from the GPS unit brings data to the laptop computer.  Using the GPS
with the external antenna accomplishes amplification of the signals and
makes use in the vehicle comfortable.  You don't have to leave the receiver
up on the dash to slide around or have to hold it up against a window.  

	The frequencies over which GPS is broadcast ought to be listed somewhere
on the web.  I've a book in the office which I'll try to remember to
consult tomorrow, and, if I find frequency info, I'll advise.  David.

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From: "Keith F.Snow" <CAPONE-1@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: BUYING A LAND ROVER
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 21:53:22 -0400

I am considering trading my 1994 mitsubishi montero for a land rover/range
rover.  I will have about $15,000-$17,000 to spend.  What should i look for
in a range rover ie: year ,miles, specs.  Are their any range rover models
to avoid.  Sources for good used rovers.   Please e-mail
snowman@mobsters.com.  Thank you.

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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 23:07:09 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: SA Diplomat

>  OK, so how do I get into the SA diplomatic corp??

I was actually hoping Texas was going be to a new country.  I figured I
could become a diplomat, import a 110, and get out of all my overdue
parking tickets :-)

Rover On,
David L Glaser           '94 La Ruta Maya Discovery #6 (MayaTruk)
dlglaser@wam.umd.edu     '94 Discovery, Teal

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:26:21 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Brake shoes

Michael Richards writes:

>My Aeries III...front brake shoes...have begun squealing really loud....Is 
>there another, cheaper supplier out there.

Your friendly neighborhood brake shop.  Ant jobber worth his salt can split 
off the old lining and bond on a new material (5/16", if I recall, but don't 
quote me.)  I'm still running with my *original* shoes, they've just be 
rebonded six or eight times.  The local shop does 'em for $5 a shoe.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:26:25 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Oil's well that ends well

C. M. Faure wrote:

>I have run my Series III-88 on Castrol since I bought the vehicle new in
>1973.  When we finally did an engine rebuild at 12-k-plus miles...the 
>mechanic was amazed when he took my engine apart.

I've also owned my '72 from new, and it too got frequent oil changes.  At
150,000 miles, I did a rebuild (that I can now identify as end-stage 
shipfitters disease).  The crank and cam were near-perfect; the cylinder 
walls showed only .007" of wear...which the mechanic also thought was 
amazing.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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