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1 eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit23Fonts or salad dressing?
2 SPYDERS@aol.com 19Re: RHD vs LHD
3 The Richards [smrm@coast14Series brake shoes
4 eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit31[not specified]
5 Wesley Harris [wharris@i20Re: Series brake shoes
6 Paul Oxley [paul@adventu21it's a sick, sick world!
7 "C. Marin Faure" [faurec28Re: Disco oil use
8 "C. Marin Faure" [faurec37Re: Synthetic Oil
9 Allan Smith [smitha@cand12Re: LHD/RHD
10 David Cockey [dcockey@ti15Re: LHD/RHD
11 SPYDERS@aol.com 30Fwd: Re: 1997 D90/posting from rro
12 The Big Guy [guru@manhol21Re: Lightweight 30th Anniversary
13 Rick Grant [rgrant@cadvi21Odd sighting
14 David L Glaser [dlglaser10Re: Odd sighting


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Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 07:42:14 -0500
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: Fonts or salad dressing?

>>>>arial is actually a rip off of helvetica, the wonderbread of typefaces..
>>LR's font:
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>>created in 1912 (or thereabouts) by eric gill for use on signage in the
>>london underground.

Dave responds

>Dang!
>And I just got through changing all my default fonts to Arial Bold Italian!

You could always specify Airport! I believe Mobil insists on Airport for
their logo. But if this thread continues, you should set it in six point
ultra bodoni bold condensed italic!

Baby is lettered in Palatino (required LR content), which is prettier than
all of them and doesn't look like a London Underground train or a hospital
room sign.

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 07:56:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: RHD vs LHD

In a message dated 5/3/97 4:56:07 AM, O'Bosky wrote:

> The only other real problem
>was ordering fast food from take-out windows; I solved it by driving 
>through the take-out lane in reverse ( I got alot of double-takes at the 
>order windows though).

Problem? Where's the problem in that? I can't wait to do it when my passenger
is the one who wants food! Sure is easier than relaying "no tomato, no
pickles, etc..." Thank's for the tip!

pat
93  110

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Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 07:58:11 -0500
From: The Richards <smrm@coastalnet.com>
Subject: Series brake shoes

 My Series III has 11inch front brakes shoes. They have begun squealing,
really loud. I cleaned and 'roughed' them, this worked for a few days, but
the squeal is back. Rovers North requests that I send my left arm and first
born along with much cash for brake shoes. Is there another, cheaper
supplier out there? Were these shoes Rover specific, or can I cross
reference them elsewhere?
 Thanks.

Michael, New Bern, NC

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Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 08:18:13 -0500
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)

The following discussion was generated by the Better Half after she perused
a few selections from the LRO list:

What would have happened if by some chance of fate there had never been
Land Rovers?

Y'know, there is a neurological disorder related to autism and idiot
savant, in which the sufferer sees the entire world in terms of his/her
obsession. It is called "Asperger's syndrome". As an example, a person with
this syndrome, whose obsession is snakes, would pick up a key and comment
on how the toothed edge resembled a snake's writhing. Then you might get a
lecture on snakes, or on writhing. It would continue whether the listener
responded or not, and regardless of the response. Similarly, an Asperger's
person obsessed with a certain type of vehicle would go on at length at
every turn about that vehicle. He could not see anything with wheels, or
anything roughly the same shape as the vehicle, that did not bring on a
detailed discussion of the subject of his obsession. A corvair fancier
would see vehicles in every raindrop. Another might see fenders in every
rectangle, it is somewhat random what the subject of the obsession is. His
waking and sleeping hours would be devoted to the vehicle, at the expense
of more meaningful human attachments - possibly because these people find
it impossible to form attachments, or to express the give part of give and
take except in terms of emptying their own mind into the available
receptacles. They tend to make poor friends, and to neglect other aspects
of their lives.

That of course is irrelevant.

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Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 09:16:11 -0500
From: Wesley Harris <wharris@infowks.com>
Subject: Re: Series brake shoes

At 07:58 AM 5/3/97 -0500, you wrote:
>New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> My Series III has 11inch front brakes shoes. They have begun squealing,
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>Michael, New Bern, NC
>Michael,

My pal Mitch gets his Rover brake shoes relined by a local shop.  No,
they're not as good as new Genuine Parts shoes and they squeak a little but
at $50 for all four wheels, who cares?  Have a gander at your Yellow Pages;
I'm sure there's a local shop listed that can do the same for you.

Cheers,
Wes Harris
'66 88"SW

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 15:51:44 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: it's a sick, sick world!

Ned Heite wrote:
> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> The following discussion was generated by the Better Half after she perused
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> of their lives.
> That of course is irrelevant.

Yeah, but what's your point?

Regards

Paul Oxley
"into Africa adventures" The African Adventure-travel Webzine
http://www.adventures.co.za
"AfricanAdrenalin" Sign up for adventure here...
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za & http://AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 13:07:18 -0800
From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Disco oil use

From: Erik Nystrom <enystrom@innovusmm.com>

>I have a 1995 V8I Discovery that seems to be using more than its share
>of motor oil.
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>The motor does not seem to be leaking any oil as my drive way is
>always dry.

The V-8 in my 1991 Range Rover used a quart every 1,500 miles or so when it
was new.  After about 20K miles, the consumption dropped to a quart every
3K miles, which is when I change the oil and filter.  The vehicle now has
81K miles on it and still uses about a quart, maybe a little bit more,
every 3K miles.  Using a quart every 200-250 miles without an oil leak
somewhere sounds like trouble to me.  Make sure the external oil pump
housing is firmly bolted down and that the oil filter mount is also firmly
screwed in.

________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 13:16:00 -0800
From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Synthetic Oil

From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>

>Curretly I have just over 30k miles on my Discovery.  I'm considering
>switching to a synthetic oil, such as Mobil 1.  Is it too late for me to
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>oil leaks on seals which have previosly had non-synthetic oils.  So far
>my engine hardly leaks, I don't want to ruin my good luck!!

Don't switch.  My BMW mechanic tells me that switching an engine that has
been run for some time on non-synthetic oil to synthetic oil can create the
most amazing oil leaks from every joint and seam in the engine.  Unless you
run your engine VERY hard, or tow a heavy boat or trailer, you'll
experience no benefit from switching to synthetics other than higher cost.
If you use a reputable brand on non-sythetic oil and change it and the oil
filter every 3K miles regardless of what the owner's manual, Consumer
Reports, or anyone else tells you, you'll get the maximum life from your
engine, all else being equal.

I have run my Series III-88 on Castrol since I bought the vehicle new in
1973.  When we finally did an engine rebuild at 120K-plus miles due to a
burned exhaust valve, the mechanic who did the work was amazed when he took
my engine apart.  He said the crank and cam bearings, and the camshaft
itself, looked like they'd been barely broken in, the wear was so minimal.
All I did was drive it sensibly and change the oil and filter every 3K
miles.

________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:03:18 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: LHD/RHD

Hi all - to see how little it matters which side one sits on, try visiting 
that part of the USA where everyone drives on the left with LHD vehicles, 
and where almost all roads are narrow with a single lane in each direction.
They seem to manage quite well.
No - it isn't Puerto Rico.

Allan.

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Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 18:58:02 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: LHD/RHD

> Hi all - to see how little it matters which side one sits on, try visiting
> that part of the USA where everyone drives on the left with LHD vehicles,
> and where almost all roads are narrow with a single lane in each direction.
> They seem to manage quite well.
> No - it isn't Puerto Rico.

US Virgin Islands. What if half the cars were LHD and half were RHD?

Regards,
David Cockey

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 23:11:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fwd: Re: 1997 D90/posting from rro

Saw this on rro. Curious as to the "people of questionable actual knowledge"
bit. Anyone of *unquestionable actual knowledge* care to set the
questionables right? My guess as to what one of those is, is a person who has
never driven one vehicle for longer than the lease term; probably a Camry at
that!

pat
93 "questioning my owner's knowledge of things lucas" 110
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Forwarded message:
From:	KayakKeys@aol.com
To:	Modern@learnlink.emory.edu, rro@playground.sun.com
Date: 97-05-03 22:36:22 EDT

I am new to list and computers so I must apologize for bringing up old
questions.

We have fallen in love with the D90 and hope to purchase a new one.  From
people of 
questionable actual knowledge we have heard that they are unreliable.  Does
anyone 
have knowledge of the dealers in Ft.Lauderdale and West Palm Beach Florida?
 Thank you for reading this, your help would be appreciated-steve

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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 01:14:47 +0100
From: The Big Guy <guru@manhole.ow.nl>
Subject: Re: Lightweight 30th Anniversary

Bill Adams wrote:

>Golly, that's great! I guess all you lightweight owners will be puttin' 
>on a fresh, shiny coat of paint and polishing up all the chrome for that 
>"special day."  

Shiny paint!? The only way a military Land Rover ever gets even close to 
shiny paint is the semi-annual "rubdown" of diesel fuel ;-). What I dont 
believe about your above statement though is the use of the "chr" word in 
reference to a mil-spec LR. On my 109 (ex-RAF) the only thing that 
"shines" are the headlights :-))). Two colors, Nato IRR Green and flat 
black (although I was tempted once to add flat brown to my paint chest 
;-) ).

Cheers,
Todd

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Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 23:32:24 -0600
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>
Subject: Odd sighting

Went skiing at Lake Louise today and saw the most interesting 110 in the
parking lot.  It had U.K. plates, decals and stickers from what seems to be
every auto club in south America, a really impressive snorkel, beast of a
winch, and enough shovels and things strapped to it that it looked like a
moving digger's shop.

Looks like someone is off on a world trip -- any idea who?

BTW -- the skiing is still terrific. 

                                                         Rick Grant

Cobra Media Communications, Calgary Canada
Aboriginal and International Relief Issues
www.cadvision.com/rgrant
rgrant@cadvision.com

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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 01:58:01 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: Odd sighting

I have an idea!!  I think a South African diplomat owns it. I met him 2
weeks ago.  where did you see it??

Regards,
David Glaser

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