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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: diesels and water injection
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 13:36:35 +0200 (MET DST)

Hi,
just after posting to the list, I tried some search engines and
found plenty of stuff on the water/fuel mix topic. See some of 
the links at my Land Rover link page 
http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz/lr.links.html
if you are interested. BTW. Mike, the guy who did the recent
invention is from Nevada.
Didn't have time to read all I found....

Sorry, for first asking and then searching,
Franz
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz

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From: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 13:09:55 +0000
Subject: Re: Cat recipies

>Note that Australia has no savage animals nor any dangerous to man
>(except crocodiles).

.....dont watch cricket  or rugby, then.........?

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 08:34:14 +0000
From: Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod <tantramar@golden.net>
Subject: Carb woes

I hate to be the one to mention this, but perhaps it's the timing chain.

I have had no end of troubles with my Zenith and have tried all the
fixes over the past year or so, new gskets, blocking the extra hole,
o-ring, flattening the faces and NOTHING had more than a temporary
effect.

So the other day, to cut a LSS, the timing chain snapped.   No damage
done except for a screwdriver through the just discovered crumbling rad
as I took everything apart.   As a result of the new chain, the carb
runs BEAUTIFULLY!!!!!!   The chain had probably been stretching for the
last year, making any sort of subtle adjustment ineffective.

So, if you haven't changed the chain in a few years, it might be a good
time to do it.   Trust me, you'll spend a lot less time in the long run
with 1 mucky day under the car than a few months of tinkering with the
carb.

Good luck, Ian
-- 
Ian Harper/Donna Claire McLeod
http://www.golden.net/~tantramar
Tantramar House Bed and Breakfast
Stratford, Ontario
Phone(519) 273-7771  Fax (519) 273-3993

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From: Easton Trevor <Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
Subject: Diesels (oil and water don't mix!!)
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 08:36:00 -0400

My understanding of the advantages produced by water are that the
explosive evaporation of the water droplets on contact with the hot
engine parts and gases causes the fuel droplets to be blasted much finer
and therefore better burning. This explosive effect also helps in
removal and prevention of carbon build up. The problem when adding water
to the fuel is achieving good emulsification and in the case of diesel
it also destroys the lubricity of the fuel and makes it eat injection
pumps. Thats why diesel users are willing to spend hundreds of dollars
on water separators. A method of introducing the water in a controlled
fashion at the injector avoids these problems but presents others of
control, pumping and of course avoiding freeze ups in winter.

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 08:53:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: SER RHD vs LHD in France

In a message dated 5/2/97 4:11:41 AM, you wrote:

>I drive a RHD Serie III in France, and it was very pleasant to talk with
>people in the other cars at my right in trafic jams. What was fun too,
>they try to speak with you in English, even if you are French...

Oui, zee *Series* has been (retroactively) renamed by LR-France, or the
language cops, as the *serie* III... What's French for "Heritage"? :-) Oh,
yeah, put on your best Marcel Marceau French Accent and have fun with them
too... "Your mother smells of elderberries...!"

pat
quatre-vingt-trois   cent-dix (93  110?)

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From: lroshop@idirect.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 08:57:39 +0000
Subject: Re: Diesels (oil and water don't mix!!)

Very interesting however my real reason for contacting you was to 
ask you to resend the directions for April Fool.  I was a bit heavy 
handed the other day and deleted a bunch of emails in error.

Thanks Trevor.  

BTW.  Would a one year subscription (or extention of an existing 
one) be any good to you as a prize.

Regards

Kevin.

> From:          Easton Trevor 
<Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 7 lines)]
> Subject:       Diesels (oil and water don't mix!!)
> Date:          Fri, 2 May 1997 08:36:00 -0400

> New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
> My understanding of the advantages produced by water are that the
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 16 lines)]
> on water separators. A method of introducing the water in a controlled
> fashion at the injector avoids these problems but presents others of
> control, pumping and of course avoiding freeze ups in winter.
LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:01:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: diesels and water injection

In a message dated 5/2/97 5:33:41 AM, Franz wrote:

>Hi all,
>I just wanted to get an idea to the public that is going round in my
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 9 lines)]
>Recently I heard that an American has invented a device to efficently
>mix diesel and water just before the injection.

Was he the guy who had a leaky, low snorkle and shot out of the river at warp
speed?

pat
93  110

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:00:38 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Cat recipies

>New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
>>Note that Australia has no savage animals nor any dangerous to man
>>(except crocodiles).

Eh? Funnel-web spiders Duckbilled platypus,to name but two.

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:56:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: landrovers  (fwd)

dutch army landrovers to be replaced by mercedis b.

read all about it....... http://www.mindef.nl/landmacht/laro.htm
     might be an opportunity to buy a few!

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From: finchm@sky3.bskyb.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 16:37:03 +0000
Subject: Re: lightweight question

Some LWT's used by the RAF had V8's for towing planes
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From: philippe.carchon@rug.ac.be
Subject: Re: lightweight question
Date: 30 April 1997 8:40

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

Sorry, small (or big ?) typing-correction: all lightweights came of course
with the 2.25 l.

Philippe Carchon
Ghent, Belgium
'81petrol-LPG  lightweight (with LPG even more cheaper than diesel).

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From: finchm@sky3.bskyb.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 16:31:08 +0000
Subject: Lightweight 30th Anniversary

     1997 is the official 30th anniversary of the lightweight landrover.
Being an active member of the Lightweight club, this is an appeal to all
Lightweight owners around the world and to anybody who knows somebody with=20=
a
Lightweight.

     We are trying to find the last ever Lightweight produced. If you have
it or know where it is please E-mail me. Also if you are planning or have
any ideas to celebrate the anniversary let me know.

     If you are a Lightweight owner you must come to Billing '97 and be par=
t
of the lightweight parade, which will take place at the event. As the
Lightweight club would like as many different variants both original and
modified, from 2.25l petrol to Tdi, Truck cab to soft top, arctic to gulf
spec.

     E-mail me if you have a Lightweight, so that we can have a chat about
them and exchange information.

Yours

Mark Finch

Ex-Dutch UN 24V Diesel Lightweight

finchm@sky2.bskyb.com

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Fri, 02 May 97 09:05:39 EST
Subject: Re[2]: SIII hi-lo hear lever noise

>The hi-lo lever rattles in two places ...
>Half way up the lever, there is a ball which locates in the hi-lo 
>selector - this ball wears, thus increasing rattle. Maybe a rubber 
>grommet in the >selector arm would help 

I say nay on the rubber stuff, but try getting an "anti rattle spring" form 
your local parts dealer. It fits in the vertical groove in the ball,  
providing pressure between the ball and the "socket". Works quite well 
actually. And they only cost about 75 cents US.

> can anyone tell me why Land Rover rubber sleeves - on the...hand-brake, 
>are moulded to match the lever in it's most "unusual position" thus 
>stressing the sleeve unnecessarily.

You might have it on backwards. The "boot" (as we call call them in 
america) should point backwards, through the face of the seatbox, as 
opposed to protruding forward into the footwell area. Most people put em on 
backwards and then they tear prematurely.

>Good luck excorcising rattles. Check the floorboards for rattles whilst 
>you are at it!

Amen brother!

Dave B.
72 SWB 
Arlington VA
(can't hear the rattles now that I've gone deaf from the 
engine/gearbox/overdrive/tires/wind noise...

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 15:17:31 +0200
From: Alain-Jean PARES <InfoDyne@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: SER RHD vs LHD in France

SPYDERS@aol.com wrote:
> Oui, zee *Series* has been (retroactively) renamed by LR-France, or the
> language cops, as the *serie* III... What's French for "Heritage"? :-) Oh,
> yeah, put on your best Marcel Marceau French Accent and have fun with them
> too... "Your mother smells of elderberries...!"

Sorry, my English is not as good as yours, do you say a Series III ?

> pat
> quatre-vingt-trois   cent-dix (93  110?)

Not far from correct : Quatre vingt treize, cent dix...
In french, we have a bit of vigidecimal system : 
	70 : soixante dix 3*20+10
	80 : quatre vingt 4*20
	90 : quatre vingt dix 4*20+10
Isn't it curious ?

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From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 12:11:26 -0400
Subject: LHD/RHD

     It never ceases to amaze me how people "read into" instead of just 
     "read."
     
     I do not fault RHD, here in the US or otherwise, though the point 
     about seeing ahead before overtaking, especially when you don't have 
     excess horsepower to get you out of extremis, is well taken.  
     
     In plain English, it up to each of us in this litigous society to 
     decide what our exposures might be.  As you in your RHD pass that semi 
     on a 2-lane road, you better hope it isn't anyone who watches those 
     late-night lawyer commercials that survives in the vehicle you might 
     encounter head-on.  Or, you could paint your RHD red, white, and blue, 
     drive very slowly along the curb with your lights flashing, pretending 
     to an efficient servant of the public.  After all, mailmen never get 
     sued because the deep pockets are with the Postal Service, who also 
     doesn't shoot back.
     
     I got used to driving on the left, twice, when necessary.  So did my 
     wife.  So your friend will get used to RHD on US roads.  But no matter 
     how used to it he gets, RHD is optimized for keeping left and LHD is 
     optimized for keeping right.  
     
     I had a friend who imported a RHD, but had it converted as part of the 
     sale.  I again suggest that the wise driver will convert a daily 
     driver, but keep the novelty for a weekend driver, at least if living 
     in an area where margin for error is gravely reduced by local traffic 
     norms.
     
     Keeping my cat,
     And slowly feeding the neighbor's missing
     yippy kneecap-humper to my moray eels,
     Hank
     1960 Long SW
     1997 Short SW

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:12:47 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: LR Supermarket

At  9:44 AM 5/2/97 +0200, Joost Kramer wrote:

>Who has experiences with LR supermarket at internet
;(http://lr.merseyworld.com) of Bridge Industrial Estate in Liverpool? Have
>the good prices? And have they a fast response?
;
Joost,
I purchased things from them a few years back when they were still called
Merseyside Land Rovers.  The first time, I made my purchase from the parts
counter and the second was by FAX from the US.  They seem to be a reputable
company with good prices.  Service was good and I got what I ordred.  A lot
of their customers are not wiling to pay Genuine parts prices so that have
a full selection of aftermarket and OEM parts as well as genuine parts.
When you order state if you want genuine, or OEM, or the cheapest
available.

They prefer to get out of the country orders via FAX and not over the
phone. This is to minimize misinturpitations of what is being ordered.

>From my experience, look at them is a good reliable competivly priced LR
parts supplier.

TeriAnn Wakeman            For personal mail, please start subject line
Santa Cruz California      with TW.  I belong to 4 high volume mail lists
twakeman@scruznet.com      and do not read a lot of threads..Thanks

A citizen of the internet community since 1986

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:00:54 -0400
From: Mike Gaines <106220.1234@compuserve.com>
Subject: Military camouflaged  LRs allowed in France?

Hi All, 
          Anybody know if the French border/customs/flics allow ex-militray
LRs in? Mine is still in black/green camouflage and someone has told me
that this is a no-no in France-- and I need to do a beer run, and its sunny
and I don't want to use my other half's Defender thing if at all possible..

Cheers
Mike Gaines, Slll Lightweight, `Wicked Wanda'.

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From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:36:34 -0400
Subject: Birthdays

     I recently tuned the big Four-Oh.  A few weeks later I was carded 
     buying a sixer of brew.  I assume this is in spite of, not because of, 
     being a LRO.  (There's the LR content.)
     
     Hank
     (No matter what, I'll always be 
     3 years older than my current L-R)

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 12:44:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: LR Supermarket

<<Who has experiences with LR supermarket at internet
(http://lr.merseyworld.com) of Bridge Industrial Estate in Liverpool? Have
the good prices? And have they a fast response?>>

Good service.. no problem with a return.  Easy to deal with.
Gerry Elam
PHX  AZ
'63 Series IIA " Soldado Sangrando"
'95 Disco "Great White"
'97 XD (no name...yet)

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 12:51:18 -0400
From: Shaun Oriold <soriold@worldchat.com>
Subject: Air Bag Stickers

Does anyone have those air bag stickers land rover sent out to disco
owners that they don't want?  or does anyone know the e-mail address 
for Land Rover North America?

Shaun Oriold

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 12:58:51 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: Lightweight 30th Anniversary

Golly, that's great! I guess all you lightweight owners will be puttin' 
on a fresh, shiny coat of paint and polishing up all the chrome for that 
"special day."  Buff-buff here, buff-buff there and a couple of 
lah-dee-dahs...

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 12:53:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: Birthdays

Hank,

I bought my birth year... 1973... and for some reason never get carded!

Maybe it is the rover...
steve

	_________________________________
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              	 OOOOO				   OOOOO
       		           Florida Rover Canvas
	Steve Swiger   
	swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu
	

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 13:24:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: LHD vs RHD in Land Rovers

On Wed, 30 April, Keith Cooper inquired about RHD vs LHD Land Rovers.

Keith:

I have been driving my RHD Land Rover 109 in and around Colorado for over 20
years.  Had two for a while.  Several years ago I had a chance to drive
around Saigon in an ugly green RHD 109 with kangaroo decals.

Once you get used to driving a RHD car, it becomes second nature.  The
footwork is the same.  Changing gears with the left hand takes a bit of
getting used to, especially double clutching.  Millions of British,
Australian and Japanese drivers have managed.  Driving from the right side
in the US is old hat for postal workers whose trucks have RHD for reasons of
safety and efficiency.

There is another benefit.  If, God forbid, you ever have to work on the
hydraulic system, in RHD Land Rovers you can actually reach the master
cylinders without removing a fender (wing) or cutting an access panel.

Resale value should not be adversely affected by RHD.  In the US it makes a
Land Rover both unique and authentic.  I actually consider it an advantage.

Paul Donohue
1965 LR Dormobile

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 13:52:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: SIII hi-lo hear lever noise

In a message dated 97-05-02 12:09:01 EDT, you write:

<< You might have it on backwards. The "boot" (as we call call them in 
 america) should point backwards, through the face of the seatbox, as 
 opposed to protruding forward into the footwell area. Most people put em on 
 backwards and then they tear prematurely. >>

How did you get the darn thing on far enough?  I tried very hard to put it on
with the boot pointing back but could not slide it far enough back on the
handle.

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 14:05:28 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: lightweight question

> Some LWT's used by the RAF had V8's for towing planes
REALLY?? I never heard that one before!  Did they come from the factory
with the V8, or did the RAF do the conversion themselves?

Rover On,
David L Glaser           '94 La Ruta Maya Discovery #6 (MayaTruk)
dlglaser@wam.umd.edu     '94 Discovery, Teal

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 11:11:20 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re/2: LHD vs RHD in Land Rovers

At 01:24 PM 5/2/97 -0400, Paul Donohue <DONOHUEPE@aol.com> wrote:
:I have been driving my RHD Land Rover 109 in and around Colorado for over 20
:years.  Had two for a while. <snip> Millions of British,
:Australian and Japanese drivers have managed.  Driving from the right side
:in the US is old hat for postal workers whose trucks have RHD for reasons of
:safety and efficiency.
....
:Resale value should not be adversely affected by RHD.  In the US it makes a
:Land Rover both unique and authentic.  I actually consider it an advantage.

 Only problem with a RHD vehicle in the US is passing another vehicle.  A
 bit tricky to wander out in the opposing lane to see far enough ahead.
 Of course, in a Series Land Rover there are very few opportunities to
 pass another vehicle ;)

 Regards,
                       ______
 Michael Carradine     [__[__\==                  72-88, 89-RR Land Rovers
 Architect             [________]               www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
 510-988-0900 _______.._(o)__.(o)__..o^^ POBox 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597 

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:48:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Re/2: LHD vs RHD in Land Rovers

In a message dated 97-05-02 14:21:27 EDT, you write:

<< Only problem with a RHD vehicle in the US is passing another vehicle.  A
  bit tricky to wander out in the opposing lane to see far enough ahead.
  Of course, in a Series Land Rover there are very few opportunities to
  pass another vehicle ;) >>

Usually when I pass a vehicle, it's sitting at the side of the road.

Nate

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Fri, 02 May 97 14:57:41 EST
Subject: Re[4]: SIII hi-lo hear lever noise

 
Nate's handbrake boot is on backwards:

>How did you get the darn thing on far enough?  I tried very hard to put it on 
>with the boot pointing back but could not slide it far enough back on the 
>handle.

Err, I put the handle through the boot. (This method only applies for those 
who have removed the trans brake lever for some other reason, such as 
replacing the frame)
Sorry, I can't help, other than to suggest using some soapy water to 
lubricate the rubber.

DaveB.
Please no condom jokes
Arlington VA

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:05:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Re[4]: SIII hi-lo hear lever noise

In a message dated 97-05-02 15:04:15 EDT, you write:

<< Nate's handbrake boot is on backwards:>>

Oh great Dave!  Now everybody in the world knows!

Nate

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 21:36:44 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: 1220% (was: Destruction of coins)

Michael complains (kind of):
>At 10:33 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Peter Hirsch <lopezba@atnet.at> in Austria wrote:
>:....ten Groschen. It is still aluminum, and worth a little less than
>:one cent US (One USD buys about 12.20 Schillings now).
.....
>:If anybody is interested, I could supply Genuine Exotix High Quality 
>:Aluminum Coins, guaranteed not to corrode your precious Land-Rover panels, 
>:at 10 cents a piece, plus p+p.  Please email your orders to me directly!

> Ahhh, that's what I love about this list!  All the friendly people
> always willing to help each other out, no matter what the cost ;)

You have to consider two points:
1) As I explained, the ten-Groschen-piece is not really in circulation. To 
get them, I would have to buy a lot of 999.90 Schilling items, so I am 
losing a lot of money anyway. 
2) As I explained, it is illegal to destroy these coins or participate 
knowingly in their destruction. My markup is about what your favourite 
controlled substance dealer uses on his crack, heroin, cocaine or (soon) 
cigarettes. 
Anyway, you won't get any, even if you pay double! ;>)

Since I will be going on vacation (Botswana) soon, I will sign off today. 
Eventually I hope to get the May file from the archives and see what I have 
missed. 
Best regards and see you in June
Peter Hirsch
Vienna, Austria
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Fri, 02 May 97 16:32:35 EST
Subject: Fonts or salad dressing?

Spenny advises us:
>>>arial is actually a rip off of helvetica, the wonderbread of typefaces..
>LR's font:
>Gill Sans Bold Oblique
>created in 1912 (or thereabouts) by eric gill for use on signage in the 
>london underground.

Dang!
And I just got through changing all my default fonts to Arial Bold Italian!

later
DaveB.
72 SWB SIII
Arlington VA
But I always preferred Ranch Style...

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 16:56:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fwd: Re: D90 Mechanical Failures - Please Help!!!

It said *don't*, so I did...

pat.
93  110
---------------------
Forwarded message:
From:	marbourg@lanl.gov (Doug Marbourg)
To:	rosenbau@u.washington.edu (David Rosenbaum), Modern@learnlink.emory.edu
(Steve Dempsey)
CC:	rro@playground.sun.com
Date: 97-05-02 13:42:00 EDT

At 08:39 PM 5/1/97 -0700, David Rosenbaum wrote:
>On Thu, 1 May 1997, Steve Dempsey wrote:
>> Ben
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)]
>David Rosenbaum
>'94 D90

Right On David!!!  

--Doug

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Date: Fri, 2 May 97 22:46:55 UT
From: "K. JOHN WOOD" <JWROVER@msn.com>
Subject: RE: LHD vs RHD "says You old wise one..."

Dear Paul,
Great advise except that we all know that your mind works from the wrong side 
to begin with,...So RHD makes plenty of sence to you...Hope to see you at the 
Georgetown Rally...we may need to redirect our trail targeting..but I have a 
back-up plan..

Your Friend,

John Wood Event Co - Solihull Society

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From: 	DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Sent: 	Friday, May 02, 1997 11:24 AM
Subject: 	LHD vs RHD in Land Rovers

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

On Wed, 30 April, Keith Cooper inquired about RHD vs LHD Land Rovers.

Keith:

I have been driving my RHD Land Rover 109 in and around Colorado for over 20
years.  Had two for a while.  Several years ago I had a chance to drive
around Saigon in an ugly green RHD 109 with kangaroo decals.

Once you get used to driving a RHD car, it becomes second nature.  The
footwork is the same.  Changing gears with the left hand takes a bit of
getting used to, especially double clutching.  Millions of British,
Australian and Japanese drivers have managed.  Driving from the right side
in the US is old hat for postal workers whose trucks have RHD for reasons of
safety and efficiency.

There is another benefit.  If, God forbid, you ever have to work on the
hydraulic system, in RHD Land Rovers you can actually reach the master
cylinders without removing a fender (wing) or cutting an access panel.

Resale value should not be adversely affected by RHD.  In the US it makes a
Land Rover both unique and authentic.  I actually consider it an advantage.

Paul Donohue
1965 LR Dormobile

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From: REDCO@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 19:03:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

 

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Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 01:57:48 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Tuning a petrol SIII

Thanks to all of those who have replied to my questions regarding
carburrettors and ignition - I am beginning to get the theory - right
now I could use some simple words of wisdom with the practice!

I have rebuilt the Zenith 361V carb - I collected a set of new gaskets,
screws and O-rings and did the refurbishment this evening.

After trying for weeks to up the revs, I tried turning the distributor,
and increased the revs dramatically with about 15° clockwise turn of the
dist. I turned it until it reached max revs.

I have no strobe to calibrate timing, no RPM meter on-board to check
tick-over revs and no vaccuum meter to check vaccuum from carb to dist.
I do have an offical danish version of the LR workshop manual, which is
so complicated (and not the best translation in my opinion - very formal
tech.language) This manual shows a 361V carb with all sorts of extras,
tubes to the oil filler tube, vaccum valve (PCV), charcoal filter and
electrical stop. Thus the manual instructions are clumsy and difficult
to follow, as the manual also presumes that I have strobe, meter and
such like.

What I need is "The Land Rover Bluffers Guide to Ignition Timing and
Carburrettor Set-Up" by anyone who has tried this, and can write a
quick, step by step recipe which covers -

1.    Carburettor set-up ("mixture" screw, tickover)
2.    Distributor - points set-up (what should the gap be?)
3.    Distributor - timing

When the distributor is correctly placed - will this equate with the
positioon at which the motor gives the highest r.p.m. on tickover
(warmed up)?.

Can the distributor be rotated to such a position that the engine runs
to fast, and risks damaging anything, by provoking extra knocking on
ignition? In other words, is the "rotate distributor until engine
reaches highest rpm" a viable method of timing calibration?

What is the correct order and method for setting these things up?

As it rtuins at the moment - I have the following symptoms -

1.    High tickover when choked after start (de-choking too soon stalls
motor)
2.    Motor slow to respond to pedal request for increased  or decreased
revs.
3.    (thus) too high rpm on downward gearchanges
4.    (and) prone to lose rpm so car stalls on upward changes or on
sudden or hard working acceleration.
5.    Slight knocking sound in motor under acceleration or hard work,
which seems to have increased with distributor rotation, and which
diminishes by returning distributor to prior position.
6.    Distinct smell of petrol and greasy coking of carburettor air
intake and outlet which seems to indicate too lean running or just too
much petrol to carb for given rpm.

The engine is maybe due for a new timing chain, no outward symptoms, but
I am planning to do this, otherwise engine seems ok - no smoke, no
rattles, low oil burning, no water loss, no leaks, smooth running when
warmed up.

CAN ANYONE ADVISE? (answers in "recipe format" please!)

Thanks

Adrian Redmond

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From: "John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 01:25:47 +0000
Subject: Re: Military camouflaged  LRs allowed in France?

> Date:          Fri, 2 May 1997 11:00:54 -0400
> From:          Mike Gaines <106220.1234@compuserve.com>
> Subject:       Military camouflaged  LRs allowed in France?

> Hi All, 
>           Anybody know if the French border/customs/flics allow ex-militray
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 8 lines)]
> Cheers
> Mike Gaines, Slll Lightweight, `Wicked Wanda'.

Well the let me in (and out!).  However my 110 does not look 100% military, 
despite its history, due to all the black camo being painted purple and sitting 
on 33" mud tyres. 

______________________
John McMaster
john@chiaroscuro.co.uk

green/purple 110/Massey Ferguson

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 20:43:39 -0500
From: Wesley Harris <wharris@infowks.com>
Subject: priming Birmabright

What's all this then about a special primer being needed for aluminum?  Is
it commonly available?  Is it expensive?  Wait one, that was an idiotic
question. How expensive is it?  

I plan to paint my wagon on the cheap (ie, the nearest Rustoleum rattle can
equivalent to the original colors).  I'm spending the bulk of my restoration
cash on such frivolities as a new frame, brakes, springs, etc. so pls pardon
my historical inaccuracies!

Cheers,
Wes Harris 
'66 88"SW

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 18:48:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Macdonald <mkmacd@seanet.com>
Subject: Parts

I am looking for the following:

A Handcrank
The "Lazy D" taillights - both sides
Hood Prop Rod assy

Anyone out there got some to spare?
Thanks,
Mike MacDonald
1957 Series I 88"  "don Quixote"

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 19:00:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: scooper@scooper.seanet.com (John & Sandy Cooper)
Subject: Tailgate affair

I remember someone posting something about a tailgate for sale but I did not
respond at the time.  Does anyone have a good series tailgate and mounting
hardware they would like to sell at a fair value?
John Cooper 1969 11a
www.seanet.com/~scooper

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 22:24:56 -0400
Subject: Re: priming Birmabright

For Birmabright, you need an etching primer if you're shooting bare metal.
This primer contains a mild acid that will etch the oxide coating on the
aluminum, and as such firmly anchor the standard primer that you put on
over it.

if you want such a thing on the cheap and cheerful DON'T go to an
auto-paint store. Take a ride to your nearest airport - aviation uses a
brush-on etching primer that's made for the purpose you're using it for -
painting aluminum.

If you have to mail-order, WAG Aero or any of the homebuilder's catalogues
can get you the stuff inexpensively.

                         Alan

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 20:06:38 -0700
From: Jeremy John Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: priming Birmabright

Wesley Harris wrote:
> snip
> I plan to paint my wagon on the cheap (ie, the nearest Rustoleum rattle can
> equivalent to the original colors).  I'm spending the bulk of my restoration
> cash on such frivolities as a new frame, brakes, springs, etc. so pls pardon
> my historical inaccuracies!

Just a thought here.  If you have the equipment or can borrow it (gun, compressor)
it might not be much more expensive to paint the vehicle yourself using real
auto paint.  By the time you've purchased enough spray cans to do the whole job
well enough you're close to the cost of professional paint materials.

An additional thing to consider is the durability of the paint.  Rustoleum
is not as durable as pro paint.

I did a paint job myself and started using Rustoleum (interior parts) then
switched to prof. paint after some reflection.  I'd never do the Rustoleum
approach again.

cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 00:01:09 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Zenith woes

Joost Kramer wrote:

>So I screw the mixture-screw clockwise till it stops and still the CO is 
>too high....

Okay, all Zenith owners.  Pay attention.  (Sorry, Joost, I'm not gettin' on 
your case, just that the "mixture screw" moniker refuses to die.)  THERE 
AIN'T NO MIXTURE SCREW.  It's the slow running adjustment and it has 
little/no effect upon emissions.  The early NA spec Series III's (Zenith 
36IVE) had the troublesome fuel cut-off solenoid instead.

Change your o-ring and plug the extraneous port - preferably with the 
remnants of the O-ring you just removed - and all will be well.  Mine was 
doing this just last week - rough, erratic idle with smoke; after a few 
minutes work, it is its old sweet self again.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 23:38:02 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Re: Lightweight 30th Anniversary

On 5.3.97 Bill Adams wrote:

        Golly, that's great! I guess all you lightweight owners will be puttin'
on a fresh, shiny coat of paint and polishing up all the chrome for that
"special day."

Every day is special in a Rover, uh.. in one way or another.

 Buff-buff here, buff-buff there and a couple of
lah-dee-dahs...

Now hang on there mate, I'm from Kansas.  Should I be offended?
Hummm...Hell, why not.  OK, I hereby take deep and personal offense to the
Wiz reference.  Lets not hear any munchkin jokes either, they're a real
(surreal) minority.

Steve Paustian
Flatland Rover Society
D90 SW
Keeping the oily side down

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Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 01:55:30 -0400
From: David L Glaser <dlglaser@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Painting Birmabright

> I plan to paint my wagon on the cheap (ie, the nearest Rustoleum >rattle can equivalent to the original colors).  

You could paint your Rover using foam brushes and rollers.  I've seen
some great jobs using foam brushes.  Thin down the paint and sand well
between each coat.  I don't think it will cost more than a couple dozen
spray cans, and you'll get a durable, long lasting finish.

Regards,
David Glaser

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From: oboskyr@mail.interquest.de
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 10:05:08 +0000
Subject: Re: RHD vs LHD

Keith, 
I imported a RHD '59 VW Bug to the States from England after 
spending two years there.  Passing other vehicles was a minor problem, 
but the wopping 36 horses the Bug could unleash from its powerplant 
kept my passing ventures to a minimum.  The only other real problem
was ordering fast food from take-out windows; I solved it by driving 
through the take-out lane in reverse ( I got alot of double-takes at the 
order windows though). Since I'm left handed, driving the RHD Bug 
seamed natural.  It was also easy to sell the car with all the attention 
it received;  although, its five years later and I'm sorry I did sell it.
Cheers'
Reegie O'Bosky
'82 Ser III (Matilda)

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