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From: Hank_Lapa@signalcorp.com
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 08:08:06 -0400
Subject: RHD ve LHD

     Keith,
     
     I would hate to be found driving an old RHD L-R if I ever hurt someone 
     in an accident, especially if right-handed.  The lawyers 'round here 
     would be all over you like you were a cop wailing on a resisting 
     felon.  Contributing factors, wreckless disregard, yadda, yadda.....  
     I would consider it for an occasional driver, but not in a metro area 
     as a daily driver.  Just my cynical opinion.
     
     Coincidentally, talked last night with a guy who has an 88 for sale in 
     PA.  I know another with a 109SW for sale (NJ).  contact me directly 
     for names/numbers if you think your friend might be interested.
     
     Regards,
     Hank
     1960 Long SW
     1997 Short SW

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 08:26:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Rover Events

Fifth Annual British Car Meet on Sunday 18 May 1997 at the Stony Point
School, 3400 Stony Point Road, Richmond, Virginia.  Field opens at 0900, rain
or shine.  Point of contact is Ken Nachman (KMNTR6@aol.com).  No connections,
other than I plan on going (was the only Series vehicle there last year).

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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Subject: Leaks? Say it ain't so!
From: robot1@juno.com (Mark E Hardig)
Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 09:03:59 EDT

>Btw: All rovers leak.  It's a part of life.  Cherish it.

Hey, I thought that was part of the intrinsic wisdom of the LR. 
"Those aren't leaks, that's the automatic rustproofing system"

On at least two rovers I know (Hi Rob & Bruce) the leaks have kept the
frames in wonderful condition!!!!

mark

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 10:12:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: RHD ve LHD

In a message dated 97-05-01 08:37:06 EDT, you write:

<< Keith,
      
      I would hate to be found driving an old RHD L-R if I ever hurt someone 
      in an accident, especially if right-handed.  The lawyers 'round here 
      would be all over you like you were a cop wailing on a resisting 
      felon.  Contributing factors, wreckless disregard, yadda, yadda.....  
      I would consider it for an occasional driver, but not in a metro area 
      as a daily driver.  Just my cynical opinion.
      
      Coincidentally, talked last night with a guy who has an 88 for sale in 
      PA.  I know another with a 109SW for sale (NJ).  contact me directly 
      for names/numbers if you think your friend might be interested.
       >>

Does this logic apply to postal workers involved in traffic accidents?  They
frequently drive  RHD AM General products on postal delivery, out on the
freeways, highways and byways and at all times of the day.  I do not believe
that there is a valid arguement in suggesting they would lose a court case
just because they were in a RHD vehicle.  OTOH the US civil system is such a
piece of s**t, needing huge changes in tort laws to prevent the--albeit few ;
\   --unscrupulous lawyers from turning it into a major lottery event, that
people are probably better off walking just to be on the safe side.

...in my humble yet cynical opinion

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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From: "Joost Kramer" <j.kramer@Ehv.Tass.Philips.Com>
Subject: Problem with Zenith 36IV
Date: Thu, 01 May 97 16:54:21 +0200 (DST)

Hi,

I've a problem with the APK (kind of MOT), the percentage CO is much too
high. So I screw the mixture-screw clock-wise till it stops and still the
CO% is too high -> little black smoke is comming out of the exhaust-pipe.
What is the best thing to do, to get a good CO% of <4.5% CO? Why is there
too much fuel? Ignition-timing and spark-plugs are correct.
Please, help me out. I want to drive, and law is forbitting me..... unless
I get the APK.

Joost Kramer 
1980 Series III 88" Stationwagon

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Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 11:57:10 -0400
From: Mike Gaines <106220.1234@compuserve.com>
Subject: ANS PA BLANCHARD RELIABILITY

Hi All,
Rob Davis in Chicago asked about reliability of Blanchard's. I live in UK
so can't comment on overseas shipping etc, but  I've had several bits &
pieces from them and never any problem, I'd recommend their parts catalogue
also, full of goodies. BTW Nice piece on Mr Zipkin Sen in the June issue of
LROI, no mention of the famed Zippy Tow service tho.

Cheers
Mike Gaines Slll Lightweight, `Wicked Wanda'.

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Date: Thu, 1 May 97 16:12:53 UT
From: "Edward Hutson" <36ED@msn.com>
Subject: Defender 110 for sale US Spec

1993 Defender 110 #170 of 500 with 48,000 miles.  Offroaded very little (wifes 
car).  New tires, driving lights, speakers, brakes, wipers...this car has 
spared no expense.  Full maintenance records available.  Kept very stock.  
Only reason I am getting rid of it is because i also have a D90---and it's 
time for my wife to get a new (smaller) car and besides you can't do the 
Northwest team challenge in the 110. AP $ 42,000.  Please call me @ 
503-232-3416.

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Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 13:08:56 -0400
From: m8f@ornl.gov (M Scott Fugate)
Subject: Oil Pressure Gauge

Steve Dempsey asks: "Has anyone installed an oil pressure gauge in a D90?"

I've not done this on a 90, but I scrounged a mechanical gauge from an MGB
and installed it on my '88.  I had to modify the fitting where the
electrical sender screwed in to accept a 1/4 inch NPT tube fitting, but the
rest was pretty easy.  Cheap too!

Scott Fugate
1970 IIa
1989 RR

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Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 10:19:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul Gussack" <pcg@tennis.org>
Subject: SER RHD vs LHD

Keith,

I drive a SIII SWB  that is RHD.  The only problem is making right hand turns,
on some streets the visability is tough, but no more than left hand turns in
LHD.  It took me about 24 hrs to get used to it, after that no biggie.

Good Luck

Paul G
SIII SWB "Grendal"

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Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 21:33:19 -0700
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Carbs, dists, points 'n' plugs

Thanks to all who have tried to beat the logic of petrol ignition and
carburation into my head - I am a lot wiser.

Turns out that my problems were in the distributor department - I
loosened the base clamp, started the engine, and by rotating clockwise
about 15 degrees (yes really - it was that far out) I brought the revs
up dramatically. I rotated until I began to loose revs again, then
rotated back to max revs. Then I reset the "mixture screw on the carb
(the official danish LR manual does call it a mixture screw) full in,
then back 3/4 of a turn, adjusted the tick-over to "around 750 rpm by
ear" and it all seems to work better - acceleration (or what passes for
it in a series 3 petrol) is much better, and 3rd gear on the flat
reaches 65-70 kph (72 spec for a diesel, don't know what for a petrol)
and in 4th we're talking over the 80 - 90 region.

I don't know if that's good enough, or even if its the proper way to do
it but it seems much better.

I think the problem was also related to too much petrol in relation to
engine revs ability to burn it - fuzzy logic I know, but that petrolly
smell has gone. Needs less choke too (even fuzzier logic there).

I'm beginning to understand these finer details - I though you just had
to fill the holes!

Just for "fun" I did try coupling the bottom chamber breather to the
carb intake breather - without any emmissions extras - can't recommend
it, unless you are stranded on an island and are missing a smoke flare -
just an awful lot of oily smelling white smoke (yes white?).

These breather pipes seem to work better choked with a PTFE wrapped 5/16
bolt.

Now I must find something else to fiddle with. Thanks all!

--
Adrian Redmond

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From: MMiller265@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 15:37:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: My First Rover

I am looking for a Land Rover and have some questions about importing, mods,
etc.

1.  Since DOT virtually requires us to import rovers 25 years old or over, my
first question is this.  Is it possible to import a newer Series vehicle then
convert the engine (read replace) to a more EPA friendly one?  How difficult
is this for a competent mechanic to do?  Is it feasable?

2.  Like an earlier posting re importing from Canada, I would like to know
about the mechanics of importing.  What do I have to do, where can I do it,
how long can it take to accomplish before someone gets sweatty palms?

Thanks for any information you can pass along.  

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Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 13:03:37 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: My First Rover

At 03:37 PM 5/1/97 -0400, MMiller265@aol.com wrote:
:I am looking for a Land Rover and have some questions about importing, mods,
:etc.
:
:1.  Since DOT virtually requires us to import rovers 25 years old or over, my
:first question is this.  Is it possible to import a newer Series vehicle then
:convert the engine (read replace) to a more EPA friendly one?  How difficult
:is this for a competent mechanic to do?  Is it feasable?

 The conversion would have to be done prior to importation and be EPA certified,
 or you can hire one of the few bonded Customs independent repair centers in the
 US to modify and certify the vehicle.  These IRC's are authorized to collect
 the vehicle at port and do the work before they are actually imported.  Nobody
 else can see them, much less though them.  In other words, unless you have a
 DEEP pocket, this is not a viable alternative.

:2.  Like an earlier posting re importing from Canada, I would like to know
:about the mechanics of importing.  What do I have to do, where can I do it,
:how long can it take to accomplish before someone gets sweatty palms?

 Read the several good replies to earlier postings!!!  Import a 1972 or older
 vehicle and you will have no problems at any of the border crossings.  No
 'mechanics' needed as these vehicles are EPA and DOT exempt, and no sweatty
 palms.

 Regards,
                       ______
 Michael Carradine     [__[__\==                  72-88, 89-RR Land Rovers
 Architect             [________]               www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
 510-988-0900 _______.._(o)__.(o)__..o^^ POBox 494, Walnut Creek, CA 94597

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Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 16:09:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Abercrombie <maa0818@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: Land Rover Activities

Hello all-
        I Just recieved word that I will be in Sweden for 6 months starting
in June.  During this six months I will be working for Volvo.  Volvo shuts
down for a month from July 7 to Aug. 8.  During this month, I plan to travel
as much as possible.  Does anyone know of any Land Rover activities that I
might be able to partake in during my month off.  I sort of remember people
talking about such things on the list before, but don't recall what was
said.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

Matt Abercrombie
`69 SWB HT
Belfast, Maine USA

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Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 13:30:03 -0700
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: SER RHD vs LHD

At 10:19 AM 5/1/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I drive a SIII SWB  that is RHD.  The only problem is making right hand turns,
>on some streets the visability is tough, but no more than left hand turns in
>LHD.  It took me about 24 hrs to get used to it, after that no biggie.

I drove one once in about '92 for a few hours on the freeway.  After a few
minutes of oddness, it was no problem.  Then, last christmas, I drove one
for a couple of weeks (about 70miles a day) mostly freeway.  No problem.

The real problem for yanks in RHD vehicles is you get a major case of the
heebie-jeebies sitting on the left side and not driving.

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 08:23:34 +0000
From: RPI Engineering <rpi@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

At 03:55 AM 5/1/97 -0700, you wrote:

re David Glazer Disco Oil use problem.

I have many years experience of sorting Rover engine problems and if your
Oil is not leaking and your oil is not emerging from the rear end as blue
smoke then it must be a mystery.

could it really be tat a supernatural force could be causing the
evaporation or even some poor sole stealing it overnight for his  oil lamp
WEll ! it has to be going somewhere dosenot it ?????.

Ok ill get seriouse, I had this problem one time in my workshop i,me not
saying this is you hassle but before you attempt surgery on that nice V8
chech that the Oil pressure sender is not squirting the oil (in very small
quantity) direct onto the road, this normally only happens at road speeds
when the engine is under load so it wont squirt when you're not moving fast.

Anyway check it out it,s worth a look

All your V8 questions welcomed I normally get there in the end.

Kind regards to all.

Chris Crane
RPi Engineering (www.rpi-engineering.co.uk)

89 R/Rover 4.6 Man.
73 Interceptor (under restoration)
73 Porsche 944
77 Kwaka 1260 Retro Build.
71 Camaro Big Block (wants to go home to Dallas)
86 Camaro 5.7.

If you have problems reaching my site (20 pages off V8 stuff) e-mail at 
rpi@paston.co.uk. 

>Land-Rover-Owner List &  Land Rover Owner Daily Digest List
>Tired of Too Much E-mail ?  -- Go Wired !  read this digest daily at
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>	  Contents:
>    1 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 04:56   31/1616  LR and Names: (was:
What 
>    2 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 05:26   33/1336  Re: Purchasing Parts
in t
>    3 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 05:32   43/1971  Boring starter problem!!
>    4 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 05:47   32/1261  diesel efficiency
>    5 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 05:49   30/1240  Re: Diesels
>    6 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 05:53   34/1174  Re: Boring starter
proble
>    7 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 05:53   38/1399  Re: Canada -> US Import
>    8 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 06:08   38/1443  Diesel efficiency in
the 
>    9 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 06:36   30/1308  Re: Land Rover font
>   10 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 06:42   58/2316  RE: SIII transfer &
speed
>   11 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 06:51   32/1251  Re: Bill's diesel
startin
>   12 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 06:58   30/1172  Tire size on 109
>   13 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 07:44   37/1598  V8 conversion for
Series 
>   14 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 07:50   44/1388  Re: Canada -> US Import
>   15 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 07:58   28/1271  Re:  diesel efficiency
>   16 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 07:59   58/2198  RE: Diesel efficiency
in 
>   17 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 08:09   50/1749  Re: diesel efficiency
>   18 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 08:12   35/1689  Tempurature Gague
Callibr
>   19 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 08:29   42/1359  Re: Land Rover font
>   20 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 08:50   67/2904  Re: SIII hi-lo hear
lever
>   21 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 09:01   20/1020  Re: The details about
gas
>   22 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 09:15   33/1433  Disco Oil Use
>   23 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 10:21   41/1943  Re: Disco Oil Use
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>   26 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 10:49   23/1000  spot rust repair
>   27 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 11:30   42/2040  Lucas 24hr Emergency
Serv
>   28 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 11:36   33/1271  Re: Disco Oil Use
>   29 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 11:49   38/1531  Re: Lucas 24hr
Emergency 
>   30 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 12:30   33/1292  Re: Lucas 24hr
Emergency 
>   31 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 13:07   31/1443  Synthetic Oil
>   32 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 13:09   26/1039  Rover Events
>   33 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 13:26   66/3598  Re: The
details...(long a
>   34 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 13:33   32/1305  LR Query
>   35 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 14:07   69/2521  Re: LR Query
>   36 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 14:36   97/4183  Petrol ignition -
mental 
>   37 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 15:34   82/2875  Re: Petrol ignition -
men
>   38 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 16:15   22/1055  Here, kitty, kitty
>   39 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 16:26   42/2063  Re: Canada -> US Import
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>   42 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 17:02   57/2191  Re: Synthetic Oil
>   43 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 17:34   60/2545  Re: Petrol ignition -
men
>   44 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 18:03   44/1820  Re: tip of the day
>   45 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 18:45   33/1004  Parts for sale
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>   50 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 21:01   44/2080  RHD vs. LHD
>   51 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 22:15   26/1373  oil pressure gauge
D90 wa
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>From: Easton Trevor <Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
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>:My near-endless search for my first Rover has now taken me to Canada. 
>:1-  At what value will the 25% charge be assessed, the purchase price or
book 
>:value?
> The tariff should be 2.5% on the purchase price in US funds.  Bring along a
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> Bill of Sale, as well as title papers to the vehicle.
>:2-  I have a stack of faxes from EPA, but cannot find any info on USDA
reg's. 
>: Does anyone know of a hotline or website addressing USDA import reg's?
> You don't need this, see below...
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>I came across this in the latest flyer from Special Interest Car Parts.
>***************************************************************************
*******
>This just in...after purchasing a Lucas premium quality remanufactured
starter or 
>alternator you can count on it to provide you with unsurpassed reliability
and 
>performance.  And you can enjoy peace of mind with their exclusive Lucas
ERS 24 Hour 
>Emergency Roadside Service Program.
>The Lucas ERS 24 Hour Emergency Roadside Service Program provides that,
>:3-  I plan on bringing my Rover into the US from British Columbia through 
should your 
>starter or alternator fail during the two years after purchase, you are
eligible for a 
>jump start, or tow to the nearest repair facility if necessary, from a
qualified road 
>service provider.  This service is available 24 hours a day, 365 days a
year, anywhere 
>in the U.S. or Canada.
>Special Interest Car Parts and Lucas wish you many miles of Happy Motoring.
>***************************************************************************
>   47 lro-owner          Wed Apr 30 19:30   35/1649  V-8 in series Rover
********
>I thought it was interesting that no telephone number was provided.  Kinda
>Special Interest Car Parts and Lucas wish you many miles of Happy Motoring.
makes you 
>wonder if the contact system for the "Lucas ERS 24 Hour Emergency Roadside
Service 
>Program" is also handled by a Lucas electrical system.
>Rob Modica, Tucson AZ        '51 SI 80" hardtop       #16136629 "La Rana"
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>> Hello all,
>> My near-endless search for my first Rover has now taken me to Canada. >
1-  At what value will the 25% charge be assessed, the purchase price or
book value?
>The duty is 2.5% but the first $x000 of personal imports over the duty
>free limit of personal imports pays a 10% duty. A friend I helped to
>import a LR from Canada got hit by this.
>> 2-  I have a stack of faxes from EPA, but cannot find any info on USDA >
reg's. Does anyone know of a hotline or website addressing USDA import >
reg's?
>The USDA regs apply when importing a vehicle by sea or air. In theory
>they can require cleaning of any vehicle entering the US from certain
>areas in Canada. Don't worry about it.
>> 4-  How long can I expect the import/border crossing to take, assuming I
have
>> all my papers in order?
>Depends on how much you want to argue. Seriously, the one glitch we
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>synthetics.
>Benefits are better viscosity characteristics (e.g., compared with curde
base:
>less viscosity at low temperaturs for better cold starting, significantly 
>less heat breakdown -> longer life of oil, heat resistance (doesn't evap/burn
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>If majordomo barfs at something, and you're convinced he should have 
>understood what you sent him, contact majordomo-owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>  -B

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Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 22:33:59 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Destruction of coins

Paul Archibald wanted to know about our ten Groschen coin. Yes, it still 
exists, although nowadays it is mostly being used by shopkeepers: They have 
these wonderfully exact prices here, like for instance 999.90 for a pair of 
shoes, and you hand them a thousand Schilling note and they hand you back a 
pair of shoes and ten Groschen. It is still aluminum, and worth a little 
less than one cent US since the dollar has risen steeply in the last few 
months. (One USD buys about 12.20 Schillings now).
If anybody is interested, I could supply Genuine Exotix High Quality 
Aluminum Coins, guaranteed not to corrode your precious Land-Rover panels, 
at 10 cents a piece, plus p+p. Destroying coins is illegal under Austrian 
law, btw, and that is the reason why the price is a little higher than the 
going rate for other (legal) purposes.
Please email your orders to me directly!
Peter Hirsch
Vienna, Austria
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 13:42:39 -0700
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Destruction of coins

At 10:33 PM 5/1/97 +0200, you wrote:
>at 10 cents a piece, plus p+p. Destroying coins is illegal under Austrian 
>law, btw, and that is the reason why the price is a little higher than the 
>going rate for other (legal) purposes.

They wouldn't be destroyed, just stored in odd places.  8^)

btw, in the US it's not illegal to mutilate or destroy US currency/coinage,
so long as it is not for the purpose of fraud.  Hence the (manufactured)
2-headed/tailed coins, elongated cents, and coin jewelry you run into is not
illegal.  (However, gold plating a 5 cent piece and calling it a 5 dollar
gold coin is illegal (which didn't stop folks from doing it in the 1880's (I
think) when they changed the design of the nickel to have a large V, but
left off the word "cents".))

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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From: "Ferenc-Jan van Zijp" <ferencj@xs4all.nl>
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:35:42 +0000

help
end

      - Ferenc    -    ferencj@xs4all.nl
                  -    fjvzijp@telecom.ordina.nl

Dogs look up to you and cats look down on you.
Pigs just treat you as equal.

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Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 15:01:02 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: 1220% (was: Destruction of coins)

At 10:33 PM 5/1/97 +0200, Peter Hirsch <lopezba@atnet.at> in Austria wrote:
:....ten Groschen. It is still aluminum, and worth a little less than
:one cent US (One USD buys about 12.20 Schillings now).
.....
:If anybody is interested, I could supply Genuine Exotix High Quality 
:Aluminum Coins, guaranteed not to corrode your precious Land-Rover panels, 
:at 10 cents a piece, plus p+p.  Please email your orders to me directly!

 Ahhh, that's what I love about this list!  All the friendly people
 always willing to help each other out, no matter what the cost ;)

-Michael

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 00:17:38 +0300
From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
Subject: Putty (was RE: SIII transfer & speedo Q)

Scott Davies wrote:
>Okay, I confess my ignorance, what is Pratley's Putty?

oops, Scott, I see now that it's made in South Africa, so you would not
know it... but surely you have something similar?  You get it in a
packet containing two bars of putty.  Mix them and the resultant (hand
mouldable) putty mixture will set hard (even in water, oil, heat,
whatever).

I used it to seal a really nasty oil leak (fountain?) from a damaged
timing cover -- did not even wait for it to set and I did not loose a
drop of oil afterwards.  Its usefulness is similar to that of duct tape.

- Iwan Vosloo
( 1975 SIII 88" Diesel )

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 19:24:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RR Fuel Inj Chip in D90

Neighbor with 94 D90 asks if he can use "chip" from RR to increase
performance?

I don't know. My 110's motor is stock and i plan to keep it so; therefore I'm
not up on 3.9 V8 mods.

Pro's & Con's of RR chip in D90?

thanks,

pat
93  110

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 00:35:51 +0100
From: The Big Guy <guru@manhole.ow.nl>
Subject: Re: V8 in a Series IIA

Excerpt from original message from John Stiller:
 My interest was the viability of a chevy v8 in the rover and if an 
adaptor is available...I understand the limits of the rover 
drivetrain...how a salsberry axle would be best..and so
on...anyone out there ..been there done that before. pros and cons?? I
understand the firewall may have to be cut a bit as well.. I would appreciate
any information

Greetings,

Personally, my advice to you is dont do it! Sure with enough cutting and 
welding (pop riveting ;-) ) you could fit anything (anyone heard of a LR 
with a 454? ;-) ), but the vehicle will not be able to take the stresses 
imposed by the 350 (torque, HP, weight, etc). A better option would be a 
V6. Yesterday I saw a SIIa 88 with a Ford 2300 60deg V6 fitted (this is 
the same family as the 2800 V6 in the 74-79 mustang II). I couldnt 
beleive how well that fit in the LR's engine compartment. Actually it 
looked tiny ;-). Anyway the guy who owned it made his own bellhousing 
adaptor and redrilled the flywheel and a couple of other minor mods and 
fit it with no problems. IMHO, if you really want to get rid of your 
2.25L this seems to be the best all-round way to go, as for me, I still 
dream of a Ford 300 line-6 but then I would have to change everything 
from the bodywork to the drive train and before it was all done I couldnt 
call it a Land Rover with a clear consience ;-)).

Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Todd

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 22:24:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: No Subject

Adrian,

I hope you don't think I'm throwing your solution into the poo, but there is
a MUCH easier solution to the ill-rattling T-case lever.

That notch in the ball is for a little leaf spring looking doo-hickie called
(appropriately enough) an "anti-rattle spring."

Even if your spring is in place like mine was, chances are it's shot. I
installed a new one of these 50 cent beauties and the rattle was totally
gone...in fact I noticed other annoying rattles that I previously couldn't
hear above the din of the T-case shifter.

Brit Pacific has them, but BE SPECIFIC. I was sent the plunger spring twice
before I got the right thing. BTW, the linkage below the ball loosens over
time and gets noisy too. You need to loosen this stuff even more to put in
the new spring, so make sure it gets put back snugly.

Good luck

Alex Maiolo
69 IIA
89 Rangie

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 22:30:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Starters

I had my starter rebuilt by a pro for eighty bucks.
I guess it doesn't get any Lucas hoo-ha with it, but I carry a hand-crank
anyway, making assistance unnecessary should the crap hit the cooling fan
blades.

Also~ navel jelly does fine by me. apply liberally, but also very locally. It
removes paint, but it doesn't spread like wildfire or anything.

Alex
69 IIa (with new 16" rims and a smooth new ride)
89 Rangie

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Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 22:50:30 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Rover events

David Glaser wrote:

>Are there any Britich Car or Land Rover events in the near future in the 
>Maryland, DC or Virginia area?

Ummm, let's see.  Bowie British car day (last Sunday in June), over a  
*thousand* British cars, 30-50 Rovers.  Mid-Atlantic Land Rover Rally 
(October 3-5), 165+ Rovers.  Appalachian Overland Adventures (Aug 1-3), 
limit 12 Rovers.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 22:56:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: RHD vs. LHD

I thought I should weigh in on the rhd Vs lhd debate. First all most all the
trucks I have imported have been RHD and so I probably have more experience
than most folk.  It generally takes about an hour for someone to get used to
sitting on the "wrong/right" side of the truck. As I tell folks "you can see
right over most traffic and you aren't going to be passing anybody on a two
lane road anyway". :-) I put more than 4000 miles on a RHD Range Rover in the
US last year and there are a only a few drawbacks. It attracts a lot of
attention to have the dog sit on the left side of the truck and hold her head
out of the window and MOST importantly , tollbooths are a pain when you are
by yourself. It is almost impossible to throw the token out the vent window
and have it go in that d**n little basket. As far as I have been able to
determine there are NO restrictions on RHD vehicles in any of the 50 states.
Rgds Quintin Aspin

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Subject: Re: RHD vs. LHD
Date: Fri, 2 May 97 04:31:38 +0100
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

>He was wondering if this would impact any driving situations or has 
>bearing on any safety concerns.  He was also wondering if this would 
>effect re-sale value in the future, if he was to consider selling it.

I have a RHD, but I do live in the UK. However when driving in Europe as 
I have sometimes done the only problems I encounter are not being able to 
see around high vehicles/trucks etc when wanting to overtake and toll 
booths, barrier controlled entrances etc are a real pain in the bum.

Obviously the problems are eased if you have passengers, but my wife is 
less than useless when deciding if its safe to pull out and overtake a 
slow moving truck, if she sees an oncoming vehicle, no matter how many 
miles down the road it is, she makes me wait.

Also I would think that its not too difficult to have it converted to 
LHD, i've seen a few done that way and many LRs already have the fittings 
for both LHD and RHD depending on which model it is and what market it 
was intended for - so just 'swapping over' the bits is possible.

Simon W-H
'85 110 V8

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Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 23:39:44 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: Purchasing Parts in the UK

Rob Davis wrote:
>  Has anyone had any experience with buying parts from P.A. Blanchard?
> Are they a good parts supplier or create problems by shipping the wrong
> stuff?

I've ordered quite a bit from Blanchard without any significant
problems, and I would rate them as a prefered UK supplier. They usually
ship within several days of receiving an order by fax. Once a mirror was
broken upon arrival because of packing, and they supplied a replacement
with the next order. Also, one or two minor parts have been
mis-identified. Be aware that much (most?) of their stock is
ex-military. It can be very old, and not pristine. But they are a good
source of hard to find parts for SIIs. Their catalog is cryptic without
a parts book.

They prefer to ship FedEx, which is fast but the shipping costs more and
you get hit by duty and a handling charge. I ask for air post.

Regards,
David Cockey

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From: Pkelly@kktv.com
Date: 1 May 1997 22:00:46 -0700
Subject: chevy v-8

  Re: Chevy v-8.

John,

    I have a 1963 109 5door wagon converted to a 327 chevy drive train.
she moves like a bat out of hell.  you might want to ask Advanced
Adapters to check their archives, they offered chevy conversions in the
past.  mine was based on the conversions a lot of 'cruisers go for
(muncie box with stock tranfercase).  this removes the trans as a weak
link in the drive train (none of the series or Range Rover boxes really
could take the kick of such a large v-8).  if a 5spd Rover box is more
to your liking, I would stick to the Santana boxes.  the Rover one has its
weak links.
   the basics of the conversion went as follows. cut the center of
bulkhead out (the entire tunnel portion, most of the center footwell
areas) remove the floors and the front cross member (this has to either
move forward or be cut down) and cut down the radiator panel.
headlights have to sit in the wings to make room for the custom built 8
core radiator that fits between the wings.  the fenders will need to have the
inner walls cut a bit to fit the manifolds and down pipes from the v-8.
 the steering had to be re-engineered, i would suggest a power assist
Defender box or other frame mounted box (i have a chevy column and box,
and am about to install a Defender manual box).  cooling is achieved by
an electric fan, not enough clearance for a driven unit. (the original
recessed radiator panel was maintained, pushing the radiator forward
would gain the clearance but change the look of the vehicle).
    it is fairly tight under the hood now, but she'll tow a trailer at 70
mph up a pass.    i hope this has helped those of you considering a
conversion.  the muncie box will accept a number of different GM motors,
six as well as eight cylinders.

                                          patrick kelly

                                         "the bone yard"

  1963 109 chev v-8      1966 dormobile (project)     1973 88" (project)
  1972 88" (project)     1973 88" safari (project)    1969 88" (project)

to: INT:Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
cc: INT:1022746.1303@compuserve.com

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Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 23:53:35 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: RHD vs. LHD

> I have seen many RHD vehicles around and have told him 
> that I and many other series owners consider it a novelty.  Sort of a 
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 6 lines)]
> bearing on any safety concerns.  He was also wondering if this would 
> effect re-sale value in the future, if he was to consider selling it.

I occasionally drive RHD cars and trucks (on the right side of the road)
as part of my job. Learning to shift with your left hand is fun.
Passengers who drive feel really strange sitting on the left without a
steering wheel and pedals. Passing can be a major concern, but shouldn't
be a problem in RHD LRs legal to import. Other hassles can be pulling
out of a parallel parking space, and merging onto a freeway.

My major concern with RHD is a personal one. I also drive RHD cars, but
on the left, when visiting England. Ocassionally when driving RHD
vehicles in the US I've tried to drive on the wrong side. My instincts
are now to drive on the side opposite the driver. This shouldn't be a
problem if you only drive on the left, and your instincts remain to
always drive on the left.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 00:01:54 -0400
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: My First Rover

> 1.  Since DOT virtually requires us to import rovers 25 years old or over, my
> first question is this.  Is it possible to import a newer Series vehicle then
> convert the engine (read replace) to a more EPA friendly one?  How difficult
> is this for a competent mechanic to do?  Is it feasable?

Besides emissions you have to meet safety standards. There are ways to
meet the emission requirements if you spend lots and lots of money.
However it is virtually impossible to legally import a LR less than 25
years old that was not originally built to US safety requirements and
still has the original labels certifying it as such. Stick with 25 years
old and there aren't any hassles from the federal government. Your state
may be a different matter.

Read the discussion by Bill C. in the LR FAQ on importing vehicles into
the US at http://www.off-road.com/LR_FAQ/FAQ.5.parts.customs.usa.html.
http://www.off-road.com/LR_FAQ will get you to the index. 

Regards,
David Cockey

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From: RSTES@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 00:27:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

help!  can any one please tell my how to retreive the daily digest from aols
system.it is stored as a text attachment due to the length of it.does anyone
else have this difficulty?          please 'e' mail me at rstes@aol.com
     appreciate any advise (except things like dummy and take a course dodo)

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Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:07:29 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Re: SER RHD vs LHD

Uncle Roger wrote on 5.1.97:

The real problem for yanks in RHD vehicles is you get a major case of the
heebie-jeebies sitting on the left side and not driving.

        Yeah, and its really embarassing to find yourself grabbing at air
with both hands while putting  both feet through a rusted footwell the
first time your reflexes decide its time to stop.

Steve Paustian
Flatland Rover Society
D90 SW
Keeping the oily side down

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: Cat recipies
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:43:00 +1000

On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Andy Woodward wrote:

> My ideal would be a highly paid part time job machinegunning dogs.

Dixon Kenner replied:
	Change dog to dingo and there may be an opportunity for you in
Australia, assuming you can meet their performance targets...

To which I respond:

Nah, dingos are alright. It's the bloody cats, rabbits and foxes brought
in
by the original English immigrants that have stuffed the country.
Cats that have become feral are becoming a big problem to
our wildlife.

Note that Australia has no savage animals nor any dangerous to man
(except crocodiles).  All danger in the Aussie bush comes from snakes
and humans.  (I'll accept that we may have had a problem with a
dingo and a baby a few years ago).

Cats?  The only good cat is a dead cat.

Hmm,  I promised myself I'd stay out of the cat debate.  Oh well.

Regards,

Ron

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From: Bryn Hackland <bryn@hackland.demon.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Purchasing Parts in the UK
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 06:48:06 +0100
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Interested in your comments about SII parts as we don't have any =
problems at all in the UK in getting spares for the older landrovers, =
both genuine and OEM.

I've been involved in setting up computer systems for two of the UK's =
landrover parts organisations and also have regular dealings with two UK =
frieghting companies.

I may be interested in setting up some sort of shipping arrangements =
using the WWW for orders etc. if there is sufficient demand and when =
I've done some more research.

Watch this space!

Bryn Hackland

SIIA LWB SW 'Bluebell'
----------
From: 	David Cockey[SMTP:dcockey@tir.com]
Sent: 	02 May 1997 04:39
Subject: 	Re: Purchasing Parts in the UK

New ! Improved ! http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/

Rob Davis wrote:
>  Has anyone had any experience with buying parts from P.A. Blanchard?
> Are they a good parts supplier or create problems by shipping the =
wrong
> stuff?
I've ordered quite a bit from Blanchard without any significant
problems, and I would rate them as a prefered UK supplier. They usually
ship within several days of receiving an order by fax. Once a mirror was
broken upon arrival because of packing, and they supplied a replacement
with the next order. Also, one or two minor parts have been
mis-identified. Be aware that much (most?) of their stock is
ex-military. It can be very old, and not pristine. But they are a good
source of hard to find parts for SIIs. Their catalog is cryptic without
a parts book.

They prefer to ship FedEx, which is fast but the shipping costs more and
you get hit by duty and a handling charge. I ask for air post.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 09:22:34 +0200
From: Alain-Jean PARES <InfoDyne@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: SER RHD vs LHD

Hi,

I drive a RHD Serie III in France, and it was very pleasant to talk with
people in the other cars at my right in trafic jams. What was fun too,
they try to speak with you in English, even if you are French....

Alain-Jean PARES
88 D Serie III
Fontainebleau, FRANCE

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From: "Joost Kramer" <j.kramer@Ehv.Tass.Philips.Com>
Subject: LR Supermarket
Date: Fri, 02 May 97 09:44:23 +0200 (DST)

Hi all,

Who has experiences with LR supermarket at internet
(http://lr.merseyworld.com) of Bridge Industrial Estate in Liverpool? Have
the good prices? And have they a fast response?

Greetings,

Joost Kramer 
1980 Series III 88" Stationwagon, with emission-problems

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: diesels and water injection
Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:28:17 +0200 (MET DST)

Hi all,
I just wanted to get an idea to the public that is going round in my
head for quite a while now.
It's known for several years, that it's possible to additionally inject
water into diesel engines. This will give additional power, since the
water is turned into gas and the lower temperatures will lead to lesser
nitrogen oxid in the exhaust gas.
Recently I heard that an American has invented a device to efficently
mix diesel and water just before the injection.

Sounds like a good idea, but the above is about all I know about this 
theme. Can anyone point me to a source where I can get more information? 

Cheers,
Franz
Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-
                                  

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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 11:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
From: "VRIES DE J.W." <vriesde7@dutccis.ct.tudelft.nl>
Subject: Dutch LR Sortout

Hi All,

Does anyone from the dutch members of the list know what to expect 
from this Dutch Land Rover Sortout?
Is it very commencial or run by enthousiast?

This is the info I got:
When:     june 1 97    at 11.00 h.
Where:   Industrieterrein Plettenburg
              Morsebaan 1
              Nieuwegein
Cost:     fl. 2,50

greetings,

Jos de Vries
109d SW santana '71

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Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:27:16 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: diesels and water injection

>Recently I heard that an American has invented a device to efficently
>mix diesel and water just before the injection.

If its what I think it is,there was a report in the Times motoring
supplement some time ago.The bloke is a *South* American,working
in England,who has developed a chemical that allows fuel and water
to emulsify.This fuel is currently under test,with encouraging
results apparently.It has all the attributes you mention.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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