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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 14:09:56 +0000
From: "Matthew J. Clement" <matt@home-mac.demon.co.uk>
Subject: European number plates

> If anyone could help me out I`d be greatful .  Post on the list or email me

UK number plates don't expire, unlike American ones.  They stay with the
vehicle over its entire life.  However, any motoring goods store can
print number plates for you, and generally charge between UK#10-15 for a
set.  You should have a white plate on the front, yellow on the back,
and the proper format for the plate is:

LLL NNNY

Where:

LLL = any three letters
NNN = any three numbers
Y = letter corresponding to first year of registration

If you'd like, you can send me the registration number you'd like and
I'll get a set of plates made up and shipped to you.  I've got a U.S.
dollar bank account, and could take a standard U.S. cheque.

Hope this helps!

-- Matt

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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 16:48:19 +0200
From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
Subject: Re: 109 2.25 Diesel disaster

David,

> Ahhh! My SIII 109 diesel daily driver has just felt it's age.
> Happily pottering along at 50mph, the engine note changes, the rear-view 
> mirror fills with smoke and when I pull over and shut off the engine, she 
> keeps running for about 10 secs.

you did not say what color smoke it was.  And how did the note change? 
Did it become louder or was it just a different sound?

Something similar happened to me... lots of smoke, engine LOUD.  I did
not switch the engine off though (so i don't know what it would have
done).  But while idling (at the side of the highway) it started
sounding normal again.  I could keep it that way by slowly driving in
2nd gear.

Not that I'm a diesel guru like some here, but this was my little
experience.  Replaced the faulty injector and all was well.

Good luck
- Iwan Vosloo
( '75 SIII 88" Diesel )

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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 17:09:20 +0200
From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
Subject: SIII Clutch troubles on the way?

All,

yesterday my clutch suddenly started behaving weird:  it is almost as
light to push in than a normal car and if you release the pedal nothing
happens until almost at the end when it (somewhat suddenly) grips
again...  it does not slip, the hydraulics does not leak or contain any
air.

It still drives though and the problem does not seem to be increasing.

Any thoughts?  (I'm supposed to go on a long trip in 2-3 weeks time :-(
).

- Iwan Vosloo
( '75 SIII 88" Diesel )

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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 07:05:24 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: U.K. Plates Wanted

At 11:49 PM 3/1/97 -0500, RykRover@aol.com wrote:

>G-day All,
;     I`m looking for a set of european license plates (expired of course) .
>If anyone could help me out I`d be greatful .  Post on the list or email me
;directly.
>Thanks in advance,     Rick
;
Moss Motors in the USA has a UK style license plate stamping machine.  You
tell them what you want stamped on the plates.  They come unpainted.
800-667-7872

TeriAnn Wakeman            "Large format photographers look
Santa Cruz California       at the world upside down and
twakeman@scruznet.com       backwards"

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From: "S. Vels" <S.Vels>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 16:21:39 +0000
Subject: Re: Peking to Paris...

> From:          ericz@cloud9.net

> Ok folks...especially those in the UK, I have a question:

"Classic Car" magazine is available throughout Europe.
 
> Yesterday, an aquaintance phoned and told us about a Peking to Paris rally that 
> would take place this fall.  The organizers go by the name of "Classic Rally 
> Association" in Oxfordshire.  Does anyone know of these folks?  Anyone know of 
> the rally?

The race is organised by Philip Young who also organises the Monte
Carlo Challenge and Targa Espana. Cost is L25.000. By the end 1996 81 
entries were fully paid up. As far as i remember, 100 entries are 
available. Call UK 01235 851291, FAX 851292.
http://www.carnet.co.uk/peking/peking1.htm

> Should the logistics turn out satisfactory, my father is planning on running his 
> '59 SII Station wagon.  It has already been kitted out for expedition travel 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> ride, just something to help take the sting out of such a voyage.  Please 
> contact me directly if you're interested.

Others are looking for sponsors too. Check
http://www.anglianet.co.uk/business/Rally/peking.htm

> Any help would be appreciated...

Well, i have nothing to sell and i'm too poor to be a philantropic. 
An idea, if you haven't thought about it already. Buy LRW, LROI 
and Classic Car, make a standard letter requesting sponsorship, 
check the ads in these mags and send/fax the letter to the 100-200 
potentially most promising ones.

Free fuel is supplied by the Iranian Motor Federation through Iran. 
Similar propaganda give-aways might be arranged in other countries. 
Check with the organisers.

Daimler Majestic Major owner Alastair Caldwell plans to drive via the 
original 1907 northern route to the start in Peking. (Classic and 
Sports Car 4/1996).

If PtP is too much of a mouth full after all, there is also the 
Panama-Alaska Rally. June 1997, 25 days, 7.500 miles, L10.000, TEL 
01342 826883, FAX 01342 826884.

Or the London-Cairo-Cape Town Reliability Trial. June 1998, 32 days, 
12.500 miles, L7.500/person, L5.000/trial, L2.500/adventure drive, 
TEL 01886 833505, FAX 01886 833144.

Or the LE JOG (Lands End to John o'Groats). Organised by John Brown 
who also stands behind L-C-CT RT. LE JOG is a 72hr reliability trial 
for classics. Last event's gold medalists were Phil Surtees and John 
Bayliss in a 1942 Ford Jeep, which goes to show that a IIa should 
stand at least a minimal chance among all the crome, connolly leather 
and wood veneer.

If i had a Marcos 1800. Or a Lotus Elan. And a pile of money........

rgds
sv/aurens

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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 97 15:16:06 UT
From: "K. JOHN WOOD" <JWROVER@msn.com>
Subject: RE: SIII Clutch troubles on the way?

dear Sir,
I might suggest inspection of all related tenssioning springs regarding the 
pedal. Failing that I would consider that the return spring on the main throw 
rod may be weak. 

Thats all I can come up with....Try calling Frank  @  Concourse Cars  
719-473-6288 Colorado Springs,Co, USA  he's my best source....and the GooRoo 
for the Solihull Society- US National Rally host club ... good luck!!!

John

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From: 	Iwan Vosloo
Sent: 	Sunday, March 02, 1997 8:09 AM
Subject: 	SIII Clutch troubles on the way?

All,

yesterday my clutch suddenly started behaving weird:  it is almost as
light to push in than a normal car and if you release the pedal nothing
happens until almost at the end when it (somewhat suddenly) grips
again...  it does not slip, the hydraulics does not leak or contain any
air.

It still drives though and the problem does not seem to be increasing.

Any thoughts?  (I'm supposed to go on a long trip in 2-3 weeks time :-(
).
- Iwan Vosloo
( '75 SIII 88" Diesel )

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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 14:10:04 +0000
From: "Matthew J. Clement" <matt@home-mac.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: temp LR export to UK

> I think the costs would run about $600 each way from the East Coast.
> Don't believe there is much legal hassle at all, something called a
> tourist vehicle pass. I too am considering this in order to sneak a 

You can legally import a vehicle to the UK for up to 12 months.  You
will need to fit "beam benders" to the headlamps to avoid dazzling
oncoming traffic, and you will need to fit a USA oval-badge indicating
country of origin.  

Be aware that you should have all documentation on-hand to re-import the
vehicle to the US.  You will also have to get the vehicle steam-cleaned
before shipping it Stateside.

Hope this helps!

-- Matt

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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 10:15:36 -0600
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Used Scotty's adaptor wanted

Hi All,
 I know that this is like looking for a used Overdrive.  However some
LR's go from modified back to stock.  Someone may have what I am looking
for.   I am looking for a used Scottys adaptor which would help my
project to install a larger engine on a budget.  If you have one please
let me know what you want for it off of the list. 

Thanks for the help. 
-- 
Rob Davis_chicago

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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 13:45:27 -0800
From: Steve Stoneham <stoneham@sympatico.ca>
Subject: 109" NADA's

Hi,
I'm trying to find out exactly how many 1967/68 NADA 5 doors are still
around,the names of the owners ,serial numbers,state/province in which
they live and a general description of the condition and configuration
of the vehicle.ei:34300601 is a Dormobile 
I currently have 5 of 811.
I have a long way to go and would appreciate any help the list could
provide.
The serial numbers I have so far are as follows:
34300751A (mine)
     601
     144
     129
     018
If I recall Michel Bertan has one (7_ _) and Hank Lapa also?
I also recall seeing an NADA (kit form) for sale in Ohio 4 or 5 months
ago.
If you know of someone that owns one and does not have email access
a phone number would appreciated.
I think I saw one in The March issue of Hemmings that was going to be
auctioned but I recall seeing the serial number.
Thanks to those who previously responed to my request via personal
email.
Regards,
Steve

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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 13:16:13 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Used Scotty's adaptor wanted

At 10:15 AM 3/2/97 -0600, car4doc wrote:

>Hi All,
> I know that this is like looking for a used Overdrive.  However some
;LR's go from modified back to stock.  Someone may have what I am looking
>for.   I am looking for a used Scottys adaptor which would help my
>project to install a larger engine on a budget.  If you have one please
;let me know what you want for it off of the list.
;
>Thanks for the help.
;--
>Rob Davis_chicago
;
Rob I understand you have a collection of MGA coupes.  I'll trade you my
adaptor for a MGA coupe :*)

I think I may know someone on the West coast who has a chevy 4 + adaptor
for sale.  I know someone who is thinking of replacing a chevy six for a LR
4.  I don't know if he will actually go through with it though.  He seems
to like having the fastest 88 around.

TeriAnn Wakeman            "Large format photographers look
Santa Cruz California       at the world upside down and
twakeman@scruznet.com       backwards"

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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 15:31:16 -0600
From: "Keith W. Cooper" <kwcooper@aristotle.net>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

>It is Rover related and someone might be interested in this vehicle as
>there are a limited number and hard to find.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>Flatland Rover Society
>D90 SW

Thanks for taking up for my recent e-mail.  I too, thought it could be of
use to any one looking for a D90.  Maybe the "punk kid" comment was out of
line, but I did think this was of good "rover content".
Keith

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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 14:14:34 -0800
From: "C. Marin Faure" <faurecm@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re:temp LR export to UK

>From: Land_Rovers@learnlink.emory.edu (Mark Ritter)
>Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 08:03:25 -0500
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>the response you could give folks when they make the crack " oh you
>probobly don't take that thing anywhere".

A couple of things you should investigate before you try this.  I was given
a factory tour at Solihull back in 1992 by a friend of mine who was in Land
Rover management at the time.  I inquired about the possibility of
retrofitting a tdi into an older Land Rover like a Ninety or a Series III.
He said it was an easy conversion, and the engine would cost about 5,000 UK
pounds.  This was for a brand new one, of course, straight off the engine
assembly line.  Assuming the price hasn't changed at all but using today's
exchange rate, that would put the cost of a new tdi engine in the
neighborhood of US$ 8,000.  Obviously, secondhand or rebuilt tdi engines
are much cheaper.  But you can run a lot of gas through the V-8 for $8,000.

The other thing to consider is if you can get your vehicle registered in
your state after you bring it back from the UK with a tdi engine in it.  If
you do not have emissions test (like we do in Seattle) and so don't have to
submit emissions reports with your annual registration form, then you might
be able to get away with it as your motor vehicle department will simply
assume you still have the V-8 that came with your vehicle.  However, if you
do have emissions tests, you could conceivably run into trouble when you
try to obtain the proper form to submit along with your registration
payment.  Swapping engines to a non-US-approved configuration could also
create problems if you want to sell your vehicle in the future.

Just some things to think about.  However, having rented and driven
numerous Discoveries in the UK with the tdi (nobody over there is fool
enough to get one with the V-8) I can certainly sympathize with your desire
to put one in your Discovery.  It's an excellent engine and does phenomenal
things for your mileage at speeds under 55 mph while still giving the
vehicle surprisingly good performance.

_________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:34:25 -6
Subject: Re: 109" NADA's

I have two. Don't have the SN's off hand. One is complete, 
non-running. The other is in components and will likely become
a 130 crew-cab PU.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: wleacock@pipeline.com
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:36:13 -0500
Subject: License plates

rom: RykRover@aol.coml, 
     I`m looking for a set of european license plates (expired of course) .
If anyone could help me out I`d be greatful .  Post on the list or email me
directly.
Thanks in advance,     Rick
  UK plates do not expire,the tax levied annually is identified as paid by a
sticker in the windshield. The plates stay with the vehicle for the life of
the vehicle ( except in certain circumstances the number can be transferred.)
 It is possible to buy the license paltes in local accessory shops, so if
you want a particular one made up it is quite easy to obtain a combination
of 3 letters and 3 numbers, with or without a prefix or suffix letter Cost
around 3 or 4 bucks each,  The  letters / numbers are ussually stuck to
apiece of plastic  Stamped metal ones are more expensive.
 Where are you based, I have  a pair in Western New York.
>.
Bill Leacock	Limey in exile
89 RR; 67 - 109 and  early 88.

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From: Deezilbob@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:40:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: hydraulic winch

I got the center-mounted hydraulic winch on my forward control working
finally. after loosening up the friction pads, the control cables and
engagement lever, I opened up the top cover of the p.t.o. and could see that
the selector fork was not in its proper place. its supposed to ride on the
top of ( part# 217522). after placing the fork in the groove it works
perfectly. couple of questions though.this is the Land Rover unit and i need
to know what size and length of cable i can use? it has a 50 ft. cable not on
the drum. also, in the center of the drum there are 2 grease zirks that are
recessed into the drums center, i tried putting longer fittings in their
place but still can not access their nipples. i tried a grease injector
needle but the grease merely rose around needles tip. any ideas? i believe
brian cotten has one of these on his forward control, maybe he has come
across this problem also . thanks in advance

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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 20:04:01 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: "Storm" update

Mark Ritter wrote:

>Anybody know if this engine is destined to make it to the U.S.?  We
>haven't heard any word of it here so far.

If this is the 5-cyl BMW turbo diesel engine I'm thinking about...it's 
already here.  Now that Rover is owned by BMW and BMW has an EPA-approved 
diesel powerplant, I can't think that "research and development" would be 
anything more complicated than dropping the damned thing in.  Then again, 
we're dealing with Auntie Rover with their legendary upper management....

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 20:15:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: What Happened?

Where's the Major?  Did he slip a timing belt again?
Nate

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 21:21:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Peace Frogs Road Rally

Hi all,

My server (aol) is having an e-mail infarct. Sorry about the previous post,
Major.

However, Peace frogs (I'm sure those of you with teenagers have seen them) is
sponsoring a road rally from Richmond VA to Somewhere, Alaska. It is a race
in July, with the first person(s) crossing the finish line receiving 10K in
gold coins.  Somehow proceeds from this race goes to frog research in South
America.

Heard about it on "Car Talk" today.  

Sounds like a challenge to one of the college age LRO's on the list...

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Subject: RE: Permission for posting
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 22:42:45 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>

To Gene Sparks:

	Please do NOT  post more info about your business to the list,
as if you do, then others will be obliged to, and that isn't the purpose
for this list. 

Please do feel free to include your return e-mail address (the last I 
have is "Gene Sparks" <galleryg@techline.com>) and the pointer to your
businesses web pages in your posts (last I have is:
www.techline.com/~galleryg/rhino.htm   ) both of which were missing from
your last message (It kind of defeats the purpose of a signature file to
have a bunch of garbage characters and not have the real goods - keep it 
simple :-)

    Cheers,
          Bill Caloccia			wpc@Caloccia.Net
	 http://www.Caloccia.Net/wpc/
				  R
       http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/~majordom/lr/
   R  1  3  2wd  H		  D
   +--|--|   o   |             L  3	Land Rovers First
      2  4  4wd  L             |  2	    because
   '63 SIIa RHD 88"            H  1	Land Rovers Last
      793-PTA            '90 RR County

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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 19:04:21 -0600
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Used Scotty's adaptor wanted

Hi TeriAnn,
  I have talked to a Nice lady on the west coast who is going back to
stock from a chevy 4 conversion.  The price was about 1800.00 plus it
would have to be shipped back here.  With a new adaptor costing 550.00
new from Scotty's which is almost beyond my budget presently.  I have
been given a good engine by a friend so I am now hunting an adaptor to
try to put it in.
  Thanks for the help. If that chevy six reverse conversion makes one
available please let me know.

-- 
Rob.

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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 19:11:12 -0600
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: 109" NADA's

Hi Steve,
 I believe Mark at singing camel rovers has two one driver one maybe two
dead ones.  

Regards, 
Rob davis_chicago

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Subject: Hello ? is this the VIRUS and LAND ROVER list ?
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:09:21 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>

NOT !

keep your viruses to yourselves (that's right, don't send enclosures
to the list), and go elsewhere to spread your virus news.

Cheers,
 -B

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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:47:18 -0500
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: Re: "Storm" update

> If this is the 5-cyl BMW turbo diesel engine I'm thinking about...it's 
> already here.  Now that Rover is owned by BMW and BMW has an EPA-approved 
> diesel powerplant, I can't think that "research and development" would be 
> anything more complicated than dropping the damned thing in.  Then again, 
> we're dealing with Auntie Rover with their legendary upper management....

It's not quite that simple. Vehicles are "EPA-approved", powertrains are
not. A manufactuer can use the certification for one vehicle to cover
another if the engine and transmission are identical, axle ratio is the
same, drive config same (2wd/4wd), and the vehicle mass is close. In
other cases an engine which meets EPA requirements in one application
will sometimes meet them in another, but frequently a fair amount of
development is needed.

I haven't heard of a BMW 5 cyl diesel, just the 6 cyl as used in the new
RR, but I don't follow BMW closely.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 08:07:58 +0200
From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
Subject: Diesel Oil pressure - what now

All,

the response to my question about oil pressure in different situations
has me really worried now.  Could someone tell me how to interpret it?

It looks like Bill and Adrian have all-round better oil pressure than
Jack and me.  What's more is that theirs seems to be higher when the
engine is hot while ours (Jack & me) seems to be lower when the engine
is hot (compared to when it's cold).

I overhauled my engine 4000kms ago but did not do anything with the oil
pump...it seems that I would have to do it now anyway.  The question is:
how many more kilometres can I drive with it as is before I overhaul the
oil pump? ...and is my assumption correct that after such an overhaul I
would have higher pressure?

...or should I just shutup and drive?

Here is a summary (psi):

               idling cold          cruising              idling hot
Bill              45                 55-60                   55
Adrian (109)      50                 65-70                   60
       (88)       45                 60-65                   55
Jack              30-35              50  (hot)               15-20
Me                40-45              45                      15

- Iwan Vosloo
( '75 SIII 88" Diesel )

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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 08:12:14 +0200
From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
Subject: Diesel oil pressure - forgot something

Sorry for the extra message,

but I just noticed something.  Jack & my oil pressures behaved more or
less the same and was lower than the others.  But I just remembered that
Jack has a mechanical guage.  I have one too.

Could this have something to do with the different 'classes' of
measurements we get?  (Assuming off course that Bill & Adrian has
standard electrical ones...)

- Iwan Vosloo
( '75 SIII 88" Diesel )

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: sick starters and dead batteries
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 97 10:47:00 EST

From: David Place wrote:
>I can't believe you started with only a 42 AH battery.  Mine is 800!! AH
>and you need this for a winch or for cold weather starting.  Dave VE4PN

42 AH is pretty common is Australia but then we don't have your temperatures 

where I live.

800AH ??  Dave, that is an absolutely HUGE battery.  I work in telecoms and
we use big batteries for standby power.  Each cell (2 volt) is as big as a
garbage bin but they are 2400AH each.  Now multiply that by 6 (for 12 volts)
and divide by 3 (2400/3 = 800AH) and you can still see that the battery 
would
be big enough to take up the whole rear compartment of a SWB pickup.

I'll stick with a smaller battery 8-}}

Best Regards,

Ron Beckett
Editor Hillman Owners Club Of Australia Newsletter "Hillmanews"

Emu Plains, Australia
'87 Range Rover 4.8L auto
'67 Hillman Gazelle
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660
 -  for pictures see  http://www.brigadoon.com/~craigb/hillman/hunter.html

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Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00:11 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: Re: sick starters and dead batteries

Beckett, Ron wrote:
> From: David Place wrote:
> >I can't believe you started with only a 42 AH battery.  Mine is 800!! AH
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 28 lines)]
> '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660
>  -  for pictures see  http://www.brigadoon.com/~craigb/hillman/hunter.html

I agree, I have a big Deltec 1250 deep cycle battery in as a 2nd battery
(102 Ah, BTW), and perhaps David's referring to CCA (cold cranking amps)
- mines rated at 625 CCA.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
http://www.adventures.co.za

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Smiths Instruments Repairs
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 97 23:17:00 EST

Further to my previous post on new Smiths instruments availability in 
Australia, here are a couple of addresses I saw in the UK mag, Practical 
Classics.

Speedograph Richfield
Rolleston Drive
Arnold
Nottingham NG5 7JR
Tel:  +44 1159 26-4235
Fax:  +44 1159 20-9912
email.fd37@dial.pipex.com   (Note they have a  full stop (a period) between 
the word email and fd37.  This may be OK, it may not.  I haven't tested it.)

They advertise that they rebuild Smiths instruments; manufacture control 
cables, brake cables,Clutch cables, speedo and tachyo cables.

Another advert was for:
Joe Shaw & Sons
6 Marion Close
Robin Hood Lane
Chatham, Kent ME5 9QA

Tel: +44 1634 86-1552
Fax:  +44 1634 86-8308

They say they do  speedo repairs, recalibrations and rebuilds.

Now the most interesting part of this is their addresses:  Note that one of 
them is in Nottingham and the other at Marion Close, Robin Hood Lane!

Usual disclaimers

Regards,

 Ron Beckett
 Editor, Hillman Owners Club of Australia Newsletter
 '87 Range Rover
 '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660
 (See pix at  http://www.brigadoon.com/~craigb/hillman/hunter.html
 '67 Hillman Gazelle

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Land Rovers in US market
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 97 22:02:00 EST

>At today's exchange rate this is US$35k.  For a basic 110 Tdi hardtop.
>How does this compare to the US?

>>What do you hunt for in Au?
>Not into hunting myself; there are plenty of feral species here such as
>rabbits, donkeys, goats and pigs which station owners would probably
>be happy to let you hunt, as long as you didn't shoot their
>cattle/sheep/station hands. 8->

Hunting isn't very popular in Australia.  Rabbits are being wiped out
(hopefully) by the new virus that has been released.  Feral pigs,
water buffalo etc  are a problem. Some people go for ducks.

Me?  I have absolutely no interest in guns and applaud the Federal
government for their tough stand on guns and the current disarming
of the public.

>Not sure if you need a licence. Anyone in Oz know?

 Owing to the new laws on guns, I don't think it's easy to get a licence.
 As you are probably aware, after the Port Arthur massacre the Aussie
 guns laws were toughened up and there has been a massive,
and I mean *massive* buy back  and destruction of guns i.e., rifles and
shotguns.  Pistols are very hard to buy and even harder to get a licence
 for (no licence - no sale).

Rust isn't too big a problem in most areas providing you occasionally
give'em a wash!.. Beach use is the worst because of the salt.
Except for T*y*tas.  They rust out badly around the roof line due to
condensation.  FJ55s were notorious for this and I've seen 60 and 80
series Tojos also rusting out there.

Ron (suitably chastened about posting the Word 6 virus messge) Beckett

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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:04:51 -0800
From: Joe Schaefer <joes@olympus.net>
Subject: Re: sick starters and dead batteries

Seems someone has amp/hours (AH) mixed up with cold cranking amps (CCA)
At 10:47 28-02-97 EST, you wrote:
>From: David Place wrote:

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>'67 Hillman Gazelle
>'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660
> -  for pictures see  http://www.brigadoon.com/~craigb/hillman/hunter.html
~~~~~~~~
Regards,
-jj

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 09:52:37 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: European number plates

 You should have a white plate on the front, yellow on the back,
and the proper format for the plate is:
>LLL NNNY
>Where:

Matt,

With a vehicle this age,he could have the old fashioned plates,
ie,white letters(or silver) on a black ground both ends.Be more
age related that way.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 10:08:11 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Diesel oil pressure - forgot something

but I just noticed something.  Jack & my oil pressures behaved more or
less the same and was lower than the others.  But I just remembered that
>Jack has a mechanical guage.  I have one too.

  (Assuming off course that Bill & Adrian has
>standard electrical ones...)

I would have expected the oil pressure to be lower idling hot.All
the cars I've ever had with oil pressure gauges behaved this way.
After all,the oil *is* thinner when hot.However,could the answer
lie in the oil used?
Personally I would rather trust a mechanical gauge than an
electrical one,but I wasnt aware that Land Rover fitted a
pressure gauge as standard.Was this an original fitment?

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Subject: Re: European number plates
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 97 10:50:12 -0000
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

>You should have a white plate on the front, yellow on the back,
>and the proper format for the plate is:
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>NNN = any three numbers
>Y = letter corresponding to first year of registration

Although this is possible I would think that it's not strictly legal (in 
UK anyway) there is not a problem if your LR bearing a number plate like 
this never leaves the US but what happens if you are involved in a 
traffic violation and the someone takes note of a BRITISH LR with BRITISH 
Plates some guy in UK could get hassled for this.

Don't laugh this does happen, my wifes father had this happen only two 
weeks ago - he owns a specialist sports car that was based on a classic 
V12 Jaguar (approx 150mph) with a personalised plate. BUT some wiseguy in 
Holland had a similar car and thought it would look goods with UK plates 
- only he chose a plate that was similar to my father-in-law's and you 
can guess which one gets busted!

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Hella's halogens
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 97 22:27:00 EST

Christopher Weinbeck) wrote:
?I had these on my BMW -incredible light.  Four head lights, 100/65 for
>hi-lo and 130's(140's? don't recall) for the other two highs.  Definitely 
want
>these on my 109.  Hhhm, maybe I should go with four headlights on the LR...

Chris
All you'd need would be the breakfast (?) from a Series 1?

Umm why is it called a breakfast?  (That is , I assume the grille area is 
what some people refer to as the breakfast).

Regards,

Ron Beckett

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Word 6 Virus - apology
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 97 22:27:00 EST

Sorry All,

It wasn't intented to post it all.  I had intended to post just the leader 
with the
http site address.  I had, however, intended to post it to others in our 
organisation
and I stuffed up.

I'll try not to do it again (stuff up, that is)

Regards

Ron Beckett

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: D90  SW
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 97 22:27:00 EST

Boy, If David thought this was clutter, I'd hate to think what he thought 
about my mistake in posting the virus info.  How long did it take to down 
load Keiths message?  1 second, 10 seconds, 30 seconds?  It was less than 
1000 characters long.  Some signature files of pix of Landies etc are nearly 
as long.  I usually call in from home to my company's mail server to get 
this mail.  For me that is a trunk call.  Not a cheap or, in some countries, 
free local call.

It doesn't worry me about these entries.  I live 10,000 miles away so I am 
certainly not going to go for a spin in them (I'd like to).

Unlike Australia, Defenders are somewhat thinner on the ground in the USA so 
if one becomes available there just may be a buyer on the list who is 
looking.   Keep 'em coming, Keith.

Regards,

Ron

>Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:08:05 -0800 (PST)
>From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
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>> There is a beautiful brand new Red '97 D90 Station Wagon sitting on our
>> local Land Rover dealer's lot.  Just for kicks, I took it for a spin
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