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1 Land_Rovers@learnlink.em18Re: Landy stuff
2 Land_Rovers@learnlink.em14Re: temp LR export to UK
3 "David M. Schwarz" [dsch9The R.O.V.E.R.S. pine barrens trip
4 William S Kowalski [702519British Car Festival-Sept. 7, 1997
5 twakeman@scruznet.com (T36Bill, great cars
6 john hess [jfhess@wheel.44huh?
7 rover1@sky.net (Steve Pa18Re: D90 SW
8 WJMcD@aol.com 27ISO- Original Owner
9 "V. Bryan" [vbryan@pdq.n7unsubscribe
10 "Charles F. Proctor" [Ch24RE: D90 SW
11 "Charles F. Proctor" [Ch39RE: NYC Sightings
12 "Charles F. Proctor" [Ch31RE: More Questions
13 "Charles F. Proctor" [Ch38RE: Chevy's in Landies
14 "Charles F. Proctor" [Ch39RE: Permission for posting Requested
15 "Charles F. Proctor" [Ch23RE: Wrecked D90 Hardtop
16 "Charles F. Proctor" [Ch42RE: marginally warm knees...
17 Adrian Redmond [channel647Re: temp LR export to UK
18 Adrian Redmond [channel633Re: D90 SW
19 Shaun Oriold [Soriold@wo16Re: Bill, great cars
20 rover@pinn.net (Alexande19Rover for sale
21 Solihull@aol.com 18Re: 109 2.25 Diesel disaster
22 Solihull@aol.com 20Re: Coil Spring Conversion
23 RykRover@aol.com 15U.K. Plates Wanted
24 "Luis Dias da Silva" [np8Change subscription


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From: Land_Rovers@learnlink.emory.edu (Mark Ritter)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 07:57:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Landy stuff

neilwarburton@enterprise.net,Internet writes:
>ask.Yep there is a new Land Rover diesel engine under develpment.It is
>a 5
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>fitted
>now.Oh yes plus it will be cheaper than running on petrol.

Anybody know if this engine is destined to make it to the U.S.? We
haven't heard any word of it here so far.

Mark Ritter
94 Disco V8i. Would love a 300TDi in it. 

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From: Land_Rovers@learnlink.emory.edu (Mark Ritter)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 08:03:25 -0500
Subject: Re: temp LR export to UK

I think the costs would run about $600 each way from the East Coast.
Don't believe there is much legal hassle at all, something called a
tourist vehicle pass. I too am considering this in order to sneak a TDi
into the Disco, plus have a car to use ona Euro vacation. Just think of
the response you could give folks when they make the crack " oh you
probobly don't take that thing anywhere".

Mark Ritter

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Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 10:02:22 -0500
From: "David M. Schwarz" <dschwarz@pipeline.com>
Subject: The R.O.V.E.R.S. pine barrens trip

Please post more data concerning the R.O.V.E.R.S. pine barrens trip.  When,
where, and to whom might the trip be open?  My wife and I would love to
attend, and, of course are ready to join and pay the dues and whatever
other expenses might be incurred.   Thanks, Dave Schwarz, '96 Discovery.

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Date: 01 Mar 97 10:15:31 EST
From: William S Kowalski <70252.1204@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: British Car Festival-Sept. 7, 1997

To assist filling in your Dance Card Schedule for 1997 please vist our new Web
page just posted       
                                                   http://www.QTH.com/BCU

The Chicago, Illinois, USA  Festival is the largest British only  car show in
the USA, and continues to grow every year. And with the hard work of the Chicago
Land Rover Club we should have at least 100 Land-Rovers on display this year.
Plus, we have four round trip tickets as door prizes for pre-registrants this
year.   Questions: Contact me direct by e-mail.

Bill Kowalski
'67 L-R 109" IIA
'63 Austin-Healey BJ-7
'53 RR Bentley "R"

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 07:49:57 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Bill, great cars

At 10:15 AM 3/1/97 -0500, William S Kowalski wrote:

>Bill Kowalski
>'67 L-R 109" IIA
>'63 Austin-Healey BJ-7
>'53 RR Bentley "R"

Very very NICE set of cars!!!!!  I lusted for a Big Healey two seater
untill I discovered that there is not enough space between the tops of the
pedals and the bottom of the istrument panel to fit my legs.  I've never
figured out why the best designers are short men who design cars to fit
themselves.  It just seems that land Rovers, Big and small Healeys, lotus,
and Triumph GT6s were all designed to properly fit people between 5-5 and
5-8.  At least the instrument panel on the LR sits high for leg clearence.

It broke my heart to discover that the only way I could drive a big healey
or a Mk I sprite was to angle my legs and hit the pedal with the side of my
foot.

The 289 AC Cobra is a tight fit too.  But I did fit very nicely into the
Ford GT that I tried out.  I still wish I could have afforded that car.

Take care of your beastiesits a very nice very complimentry set.

TeriAnn Wakeman
60 L-R 109" II
61 Triumph TR3A

TeriAnn Wakeman            "Large format photographers look
Santa Cruz California       at the world upside down and
twakeman@scruznet.com       backwards"

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 08:24:49 -0700
From: john hess <jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: huh?

tom gross wrote,

From: "Tom Gross [ESRI-Redlands]" <tgross@esri.com>
Subject: Re: Importing Vehicles

Hello,

I'd like to add that if you live in California, and you import a
vehicle, you'd better be prepared to bring it up to California smog
standards, even if the vehicle is more than 25 years old, and even
if it meets the EPA and DOT standards.

to which I reply

Hmmm...  California is bad, but there is no way you can take a carbuerator
fueled 1967 vehicle and make it run as clean as a 1997.   In my case, my
vehicle was imported to maine, then I brought it to CA.  I went to get a
smog check, the garage looked up 1968 rover, 6 cylinder engine and did the
smog check.  My understanding is that A) even though rover didn't import
any 6s into the US in 1968, the CA paperwork was set up OR B) some were
first registered in 1968, hence the listing in the state computer/book.

BTW, I have a set of smog standards pulled off the net about 4 months ago.
Between 1994 and 1996 the allowable emissions for my car went 500 ppm HC to
700.
If you want a copy, email me.

YES.  Even though the dreaded smog 2 program started up and people began
whining about gross polluters and freedom to drive and all else, the
standards for the 1967-68 vintage vehicles WENT UP.  I failed in 1994 (501
ppm HC) and passed in 1996 with (647 ppm HC).  When I failed in 1994, I was
given a ONE TIME waiver.  I now have to pass or pay whatever it takes to
fix it. I don't like it, but consider it a fair situation.

John F Hess                       1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"
jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us      1984 Mazda GLC "Mazda box"
dormobile homepage:               1960 swb pu "Stubby" (actually Katherine's)
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:56:58 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Re: D90  SW

>why clutter the lists with this?
>On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Keith W. Cooper wrote:
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>> There is a beautiful brand new Red '97 D90 Station Wagon sitting on our
>> local Land Rover dealer's lot.  Just for kicks, I took it for a spin

It is Rover related and someone might be interested in this vehicle as
there are a limited number and hard to find.

Steve Paustian
Flatland Rover Society
D90 SW
Keep the oily side down

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From: WJMcD@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 16:17:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: ISO- Original Owner

I'm interested in tracking the lineage of my 1969, 109 Safari. The previous
owner was a James Stewart Cranston or Stuart James Sibbick of Ashford,
Middlesex.  Before that it belonged to Barry David Williams of Sidcup.

I'd be interest to hear from James, Barry or anyone who might know them, in
an effort to trace the history of the vehicle. I bought it from an importer
named Joe Kemp in October of '96.

Hey, maybe this will become a craze. Like adopted children who are looking
for their "real parents".

Ready... Go!

Thanks,

Bill McDonald
'69 109- "Beauty"
'66 MGB
'75 Honda CB400F- A Cherry Red Pocket Rocket named "Beasty"
'83 Cherokee- "Brown Truck"
'93 Eurovan- "Big Blue Box"

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From: "V. Bryan" <vbryan@pdq.net>
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 17:03:28 -0000

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 23:26:28 UT
From: "Charles F. Proctor" <CharlesFProctor@msn.com>
Subject: RE: D90  SW

send me a parts anc accessories catalog - Charlie Proctor, 249 Main St, 
Oxford, MA 01540

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From: 	David Rosenbaum
Sent: 	Friday, February 28, 1997 11:08 PM
Subject: 	Re: D90  SW

why clutter the lists with this? 

On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Keith W. Cooper wrote:

> There is a beautiful brand new Red '97 D90 Station Wagon sitting on our 
> local Land Rover dealer's lot.  Just for kicks, I took it for a spin 
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> *                          1996 Discovery SE                            *
> *    Visit my page at - http://www.aristotle.net/~kwcooper/LRV.html     *
>  -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 20:21:57 UT
From: "Charles F. Proctor" <CharlesFProctor@msn.com>
Subject: RE: NYC Sightings

That nice 71 Rover is me - Charlie Proctor; 508-987-2626

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From: 	Christopher Weinbeck
Sent: 	Tuesday, November 19, 1996 11:36 AM
Subject: 	NYC Sightings

Hi all.

Hope everyone else is making better progress in preparing their Rover for
winter.  I'm working simultaneous projects (as always) and REGISTRATION is
driving me nuts -the DMV wants a previous title, but my truck was imported. 
Up untill now I haven't been able to get either a current registration nor
import documents from my importer.  Ah, well...

More importantly, I was in NY this last weekend and I saw (tons of Disco's
-mostly owned by people who would have been surprised to know that LR was
once NOT owned by BMW) a couple of great Rovers.  On Houston (street/ave) in
Brooklyn I saw a 110 -very nice looking, but no further indication of real
enthusiasm NY plates -anybody?  And a really, really nice looking 89'ish
(external door hinges, right?) RR -white with GB and Best 4x4xFar stickers.
Then on the ride home getting off the Mass Pike in Worcester there was a
very nice Limestone 88 with "71 Rover" on it's Montanna plate.

Chris
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Christopher Weinbeck       Office Logic, Inc.      V (508) 392-0288
   _______                  7 Littleton Road        F (508) 692-0897   
  |__][_[_\__               Westford, MA 01886    Computerization for 
  |___\_|_]__]                                      the healthcare
    (o)    (o)  '69 109" RHD OD 2.6 Dormobile        professional        
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 22:52:40 UT
From: "Charles F. Proctor" <CharlesFProctor@msn.com>
Subject: RE: More Questions

you robert davis in Va - I did one , too - lots of power - no downs Charlie 
Proctor 508-987-2626

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From: 	Bobeck, David R.
Sent: 	Wednesday, December 04, 1996 10:18 AM
Subject: 	Re: More Questions

Dave,
You mentioned a while back that Rob David modified a IIA(?) with a 
marine engine!  What sort of engine?  Is your LR complete and 
driveable?  Mark 

Mark/Taylor:

Could this be the Sea Rover? Or possibly the Land-Rubber? Look this up in the 
FAQ (http://www.off-road.com/LR_FAQ/FAQ.6.taylorFAQ.html) for more info. Let 
us 
know what you find.

Please don't bore the list with any more tired old questions.

Regards

David

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 22:38:10 UT
From: "Charles F. Proctor" <CharlesFProctor@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Chevy's in Landies

You might want to try a chevy merc cruiser 4 cylinder permanent magnet type 
starter - very small and powerful - available at Merc cruiser store - also 
many hot rod starters available today which are very strong and small - beats 
changing driveshafts - Charlie Proctor

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From: 	Rob MacCormick
Sent: 	Tuesday, December 03, 1996 8:11 AM
Subject: 	Chevy's in Landies

Hello!
I read with interest as Jim Allen shared some thoughts on dropping a 350
into a Landrover....

"The starter may interfere with the front driveshaft." 

We've got a (mid '70's?) Chevy Straight 6 where a LR six once was and I
noticed the other day that part of the starter does indeed interfere with
the front driveshaft...The starter housing has a small chunk (looks like a
casting for a bolt "flange?" that was never drilled or tapped) sticking out
of it (this appears to serve no function) and when the front axle
articulates up, the chunk scribes a neat line in the driveshaft......Anyone
have any thoughts on improving this condition? (helpful, abusive, and/or
otherwise equally appreciated) We don't anticipate the need for radical
articulation but I would like to head off potential problems.....Any reason
I shouldn't grind off this little nubbin sticking out of the starter housing? 

climbing (as fast as a snail) the learning curve and enjoying every step.....

Rob M 
Concord, MA USA
IIa dormobile

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 22:54:33 UT
From: "Charles F. Proctor" <CharlesFProctor@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Permission for posting Requested

can mail mine to Charlie Proctor, 249 Main Street, Oxford, MA 01540

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From: 	Gene Sparks
Sent: 	Wednesday, December 04, 1996 11:10 AM
Subject: 	Permission for posting Requested

I'd like to ask permission from the list to post some Information that I
feel would be of interest
to many of you. I am involved with a company that manufactures High Quali=
ty
accessories for
Land Rover vehicles and have developed a Web site for that company. If th=
e
goup doesn't mind
I would like to post a brief one time description of the company along wi=
th
our Web site address.
Everyones input would be greatly appreciated.

~~~~~~~^~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~~~^~^~^~~~~~^^^~~~~~~~~~
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parks
   __________         o                _\_             "Rhino Gear"
  /  |---|___|___\___  o            >(___ =92>       USS Disco   
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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 22:56:46 UT
From: "Charles F. Proctor" <CharlesFProctor@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Wrecked D90 Hardtop

If you hear of a whole top, let me know Charlie Proctor 508-987-2626

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From: 	ericz@cloud9.net
Sent: 	Wednesday, December 04, 1996 1:15 PM
Subject: 	Wrecked D90 Hardtop

I'm looking for the first 8" or so of an aluminum Defender hardtop (i.e. all 
the 
fittings to fit to a Defender windscreen) in North America.  Tried AAA small 
car 
world with no success.  Does anyone know of any D90 SWs being parted or a 
damaged roof (full hardtop or p/u cab) that may be sitting around? 
Finders fee paid in Guinness :)

Thanks, 
Eric 

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 22:46:31 UT
From: "Charles F. Proctor" <CharlesFProctor@msn.com>
Subject: RE: marginally warm knees...

I have a Mansfield heater from my recently sold II A for sale Charlie Proctor 
508-987-2626

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From: 	Tim Harincar-MS
Sent: 	Tuesday, December 03, 1996 5:36 PM
Subject: 	marginally warm knees...

Hi all,

Posting this for a friend because she doesn't have access yet... Vehicle   
in question is a Series III, with a kodiak heater. The problem is the   
kodiak doesn't put out much in the way of heat, really only Slightly   
Warmer Air.

We spent an evening looking for possible causes, including changing to a   
RN winter t-stat, checking to see if the core was blocked, etc. Nothing   
doing. The temp guage (if you can call it that) gets to about a 45 degree   
angle to the left - i.e. halfway between cold and vertical, which is   
where it was before we started.

The kodiak in my IIa, while not exactly a blow torch, puts out quite a   
bit more heat on the standard T-stat, no muff.

What is normal for a series III? Should we be looking to get a vertical   
temp reading? What do others get when its around 20 degrees F outside.   
Possible suggestions before we try swapping heater cores (maybe her's is   
partially blocked)? Add a muff? Pull the fan blades?

thanks for the input,

Tim
 ---
tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com
'66 IIa 88 SW

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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 01:17:00 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: temp LR export to UK

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> I'm doing some idle speculation.
> Has anyone had experience temporaly exporting a car from the US to the UK?
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
> Santa Cruz California       at the world upside down and
> twakeman@scruznet.com       backwards"
Hey TeriAnn!

I've never tried US to UK, but I have moved my 88 around the North
Atlantic quite a bit - there are several ways, all of which involve a
cooperative and friendly shipping agent.

If you have some "excuse" for a working trip, you could see if you can
find a freighter sailing from East Coast to UK (for example Lykes Lines
sail from Mississippi to London once a week) and travel with your truck
as a frieght passenger - its a different way of travelling, and usually
costs about 20 - 40 dollars a day for bed and board!

I did this from Denmark to the North of Norway once, and I have used the
same wheeze to Iceland - beats being a tourist, and there are good photo
opportunities on the way - and as a "guest" of the line, you get great
help with customs/agency problems.

good luck!
-- 
Adrian Redmond

(Video photographers see look at the world in black and white)

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Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
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mobile NMT			    +45 30 86 75 66
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Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 01:19:43 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: D90  SW

David Rosenbaum wrote:
> why clutter the lists with this?

Why oh why do we descend every week to bitching about what other people
write - that is the whole point of the list - share views, experiences,
ideas? The price is - sometimes, you have to share views, experiences
and ideas which you don't find worth the time - try delete!

Anyway, no hard feelings, but i don't think it's clutter - I've already
seen one good reply to Keith's letter.

hi!
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
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telephone (office)		    +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)		    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data		    +45 76 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)		    +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)		    +45 40 50 22 66
mobile NMT			    +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail			     channel6@post2.tele.dk
HoTMaiL (www.e-mail)	channel6denmark@hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 19:20:46 -0500
From: Shaun Oriold <Soriold@worldchat.com>
Subject: Re: Bill, great cars

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> At 10:15 AM 3/1/97 -0500, William S Kowalski wrote:
> >Bill Kowalski
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 32 lines)]
> Santa Cruz California       at the world upside down and
> twakeman@scruznet.com       backwards"

hey bill

would you consider selling the austin-healey.
if so how much would you like

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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:24:59 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Rover for sale

One of the local lads (not on the net) has Rover for sale.  It's a 1969, 
right hand drive 109 12 seater.  Basically stock...about 40k on the mill.  A 
few dings, etc, but clean and straught.  This is one of those rare 109's 
that seems to run faster than the stock 2.25.  Asking $8,500.  E=mail me 
direct for more info.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:40:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 109 2.25 Diesel disaster

>>Apparently it also effected the injector....

Infected, more like! 

Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, just about a couple dozen satisfied
customers!! 

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:41:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Coil Spring Conversion

>>This truck is one that I got this summer from the orig. owner ( a
neighbor of mine ) and it has a grand total of 7460 miles on it.  So, mech.
it's like new, but the frame is full of holes and the springs are shot...

So, that's like a whole truckful of NOS parts on and iron oxide pallet.

Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, just about a couple dozen satisfied
customers!! 

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From: RykRover@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:49:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: U.K. Plates Wanted

G-day All, 
     I`m looking for a set of european license plates (expired of course) .
If anyone could help me out I`d be greatful .  Post on the list or email me
directly.
Thanks in advance,     Rick

`63 SIIa     " Edina"
`96 Disco  "Patsy"
`97 Blazer                                    

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From: "Luis Dias da Silva" <np03mb@mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Change subscription
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:43:12 +0100

I=B4d like to end my subscription as soon as possible
npmb@mail.telepac.pt

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