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1 | "Peter CHADWICK at Bobig | 18 | LR tyres |
2 | eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit | 14 | Names for Rovers |
3 | M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M | 14 | Re: Names for Rovers |
4 | con & greg [seitl@ns.sym | 14 | Re: Names for Rovers |
5 | "Adams, Bill" [badams@us | 16 | Re: After the Extend!! |
6 | Paul [P.M.A.Snoek@net.HC | 16 | Re: Road taxes in Holland |
7 | Iwan Vosloo [ivosloo@cs. | 19 | [SER] Ettu, Lucas |
8 | Lodelane@aol.com | 14 | Re: conductive gel |
9 | Simon Ward-Hastelow [sim | 78 | [not specified] |
10 | Simon Ward-Hastelow [sim | 23 | [not specified] |
11 | ecrover@midcoast.com (Ea | 32 | Good-bye |
12 | Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo | 14 | Re: NEED A CATALOGUE |
13 | twakeman@scruznet.com (T | 30 | Re: LR tyres |
14 | reynoldsg@tfn.com (Geoff | 59 | Roof Racks |
15 | "Mark Gehlhausen" [Gehl@ | 14 | Grease All Flavors |
16 | ASFCO@aol.com | 16 | Re: Fender Blower Cutout |
17 | Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo | 15 | Re: Grease , red rubber |
18 | "Mark Gehlhausen" [Gehl@ | 9 | Re: Fender Blower Cutout |
19 | "Adams, Bill" [badams@us | 14 | Re: Roof Racks |
20 | JDolan2109@aol.com | 23 | Re: hub bolt/"drain"... |
21 | "Faure, Marin" [Marin.Fa | 51 | Freewheeling Hubs |
22 | "Adams, Bill" [badams@us | 13 | Re: Freewheeling Hubs |
23 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 19 | Re: UK events (long) |
24 | M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M | 15 | Re: Freewheeling Hubs |
25 | DONOHUEPE@aol.com | 26 | PSP & the well dressed LandRover |
26 | eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit | 18 | Final Indignity |
27 | "Adams, Bill" [badams@us | 13 | Re: Final Indignity |
28 | "FHYap" [FHYap@ix.netcom | 36 | Re: Good-bye |
29 | "Benjamin G. Newman,MD" | 92 | CONSUMER ALERT ref. Mike Smith d/b/a East Coast RoverCo. |
30 | "S. Vels" [S.Vels> | 22 | Re: Final Indignity |
31 | Leland J Roys [roys@hpke | 20 | Tow Hooks for Def-90? |
32 | lopezba@atnet.at | 27 | Re: Sense and Sensitivity |
33 | "DAVID MOORE" [DMOOR2E@m | 31 | RE: Tow Hooks for Def-90? |
34 | "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett | 28 | Prince of Darkness (was Conductive Gel) |
35 | Jeremy Bartlett [bartlet | 29 | Re: Tow Hooks for Def-90? |
36 | "FHYap" [FHYap@ix.netcom | 36 | Re: Good-bye |
37 | Texasvandy@aol.com | 7 | unsubscribe |
38 | Texasvandy@aol.com | 10 | 'till next time |
39 | Rick Grant [rgrant@cadvi | 19 | Re: Sense and Sensitivity |
40 | Michel Bertrand [mbertra | 35 | Military 109 Exhaust setup |
41 | Leland J Roys [roys@hpke | 24 | Def-90 Battery to small? |
42 | Hank Rutherford [ruthrfr | 16 | Re.McMaster-Carr |
43 | Jeremy Bartlett [bartlet | 28 | Re: Def-90 Battery to small? |
44 | David Cockey [dcockey@ti | 15 | Re: Sense and Sensitivity |
45 | Joe Schaefer [joes@olymp | 39 | Re: Sense and Sensitivity |
46 | Jeremy Bartlett [bartlet | 18 | Storing/Preserving a Rebuilt Engine |
47 | Adrian Redmond [channel6 | 80 | Re: Sense and Sensitivity |
48 | Greg Moore [gmoore@islan | 13 | Re: Sense and Sensitivity |
49 | lenny@fof.coracle.com (L | 41 | None |
50 | "Keith W. Cooper" [kwcoo | 32 | [not specified] |
51 | Hudson29@aol.com | 36 | Shimmy |
52 | Uncle Roger [sinasohn@cr | 14 | Re: Re.McMaster-Carr |
53 | Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo | 24 | Re: conductive gel |
54 | Joe Schaefer [joes@olymp | 32 | Re: Sense and Sensitivity |
55 | marsden@digicon-egr.co.u | 18 | Re: Military 109 Exhaust setup |
56 | u940470@studbo.hit.no (B | 10 | SIIa picture |
57 | "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett | 44 | RE: Storing/Preserving a Rebuilt Engine |
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 07:02:42 EST From: "Peter CHADWICK at Bobignypc1 CHADWICK - FRVALECL" <frvalyde@ibmmail.com> Subject: LR tyres =============================================================================== In a quest for increased overall gearing ratio and ground clearance (1987 90"), has anyone tried fitting any of the following tyres to a Land Rover ? 265/75 R 16 32x11.50 R 15 33x12.50 R 15 Any fouling problems ? Cheers, Peter CHADWICK ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 07:21:47 -0500 From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite) Subject: Names for Rovers Pick the name before the car. I had all kinds of ideas for a name for mine before the restoration was finished. But she leaked unpredictably. Who could resist calling her Baby? I am hoomilated publicly when my dear wife labels my web page (URL below) as "Ned and Baby" She still leaks a lot, but I'm not putting nappies on her. Ned Heite, P O Box 53 Camden, Delaware 19934 Icelandic wool catalogue: http://www.dmv.com/~iceland Archaeological tinsmithing: http://home.dmv.com/~eheite/index.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:40:55 +0000 From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth) Subject: Re: Names for Rovers . I had all kinds of ideas for a name for mine >before the restoration was finished. But she leaked unpredictably. Who >could resist calling her Baby? I only picked a name for my 88" after I'd had it about six years. Then I realised I kept saying "Oh,Bloody Nora,not *again*". Picked her own name,really. Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:25:49 -0800 From: con & greg <seitl@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Names for Rovers Mike Rooth wrote: > . I had all kinds of ideas for a name for mine > >before the restoration was finished. But she leaked unpredictably. Who [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)] > Cheers > Mike RoothMy first one came with a name, (Pig), in fact, other people knew Pig by name long before they knew my name. " Hey! Your the guy that bought Pig eh? " Con Seitl ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 8:52:25 -0500 From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov> Subject: Re: After the Extend!! The best off-the shelf finish is POR-15 chassis paint found advertised in Hemmings. If you aren't feeling too rich you can try my old secret formula: equal parts boiled linseed oil, turpentine, asphalt roof patch, and black alkyd enamel. A dab of melted beeswax can help keep it flexible. Apply this elixer with reckless abandon using a coarse brush. Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon: "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching" ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:03:06 +0100 (MET) From: Paul <P.M.A.Snoek@net.HCC.nl> Subject: Re: Road taxes in Holland At 17:39 18-02-97 +0100, you wrote: >Is there anyone from Holland on the list who knows of the >implication's of the recent verdict on the "Grey registration" [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)] >E-mail adres >Pennings@kfih.azr.nl Hi guy's, pay attention to the month of juli '97 . Then road taxes goes down but the fuel prices goes up ! Paul Snoek the Netherlands E-mail : P.M.A.Snoek@net.HCC.nl URL : http://web.inter.NL.net/hcc/P.M.A.Snoek/ ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:13:59 +0200 From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za> Subject: [SER] Ettu, Lucas Dear all, this morning one of my glowplugs decided to bail out in an unsuccessful attempt to make me late for an appointment (luckily I had a spare). I know the parallel ones are better, but I have other priorities at the moment and still have the standard series glow plugs. What bugs me is the fact that it was only about 5 months old (4000kms). So: how long are (standard) glow plugs supposed to last? Mine is used each day. - Iwan Vosloo ( '75 SIII 88" Diesel ) ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Lodelane@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 09:15:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: conductive gel Al, et al It's dielectric grease. Helps the conductivity while keeping the moisture out. You find it a lot on trailer connectors, etc. Available at Radio Shack, NAPA, etc. Larry Smith Chester, VA ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: UK events (long) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 14:22:28 -0000 From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com> these are a list of planned UK events for the next couple of months (as listed in 4x4 and Off Road Mart) posted on the main LRO List due to interest from visitors holidaying here. FEBRUARY 23rd, RTV Trial, Breckland Landrover Club, 01692 404453 23rd, Autojumble, Northgate Arena, Chester, 0121 382 5966 23rd, Doncaster Jeep Off Road Play Day, Hatfield Woodhouse, Doncaster, 01302 538200 MARCH 1st/2nd Comp Safari, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 2nd, Devils Pit 4x4 off road course, Bedfordshire 01582 883349 2nd, Northern Classic Car show, Great Yorkshire Showground. 01484 660622 8/9th, Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 8th, Landcraft Training Day, 01678 520820 9th, Landcraft Driving Day, 01678 520820 9th, CCV Trial, Breckland LRC, 01692 404453 9th, Autojumble, Malvern, 01684 575902 15/16th, Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 15/16th, London Classic Motor Show, Alexandra Palace, 01296 631181 16th, Fun Day, Breckland LRC, 01692 404453 22nd, Landcraft Night Drive, Mid-Wales, 01678 520820 23rd, Devils Pit 4x4 off road course, Bedfordshire 01582 883349 29/30th, Lancashire/Cheshire ROC, RTV, CCV, Safari, Recovery, 0161 292 0539 30th, Off Road London, 0181 265 3760 30th, Autojumble, Essex County Showground 01484 660623 APRIL 5/7th, Breckland LRC, RTV, CCV, Comp, 01692 404453 12/13th, Charity Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 12/13th, Stafford Classic Vehicle Show, 01734 271444 12th, Landcraft Training Day, 01678 520820 13th, Landcraft Driving Day, 01678 520820 13th, Devils Pit 4x4 off road course, Bedfordshire 01582 883349 13th, Autojumble, Exeter, 01823 333730 18th, Devils Pit 4x4 off road course, Bedfordshire 01582 883349 19/20th, Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 19/20th, Training Day, North Wales/Lancashire/Cheshire LRC 0161 456 8244 19/20th, Snowdonia Classic Vehicle Rally/Displays/Autojumble, 01492 531731 20th, Tour of the Peaks, Classic Car Tour, 0161 431 8191 MAY 3/5th, Lincolnshire LRC, RTV, CCV, Comp Safari, 01427 677357 3/5th, Midland Off Road Club, RTV, CCV, Comp Safari, 01902 737152 3/5th, Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 4/5th, Trial, Breckland LRC, 01692 404453 10th, Landcraft Training Day, 01678 520820 11th, Landcraft Driving Day, 01678 520820 17/18th, Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 24/26th, ARC INTERNATIONAL RALLY, N.Wales, 0891 227399 24/26th, Jeep Fest 97, Doncaster, 01302 538200 24/26th, Midland Off Road Club, RTV, CCV, Comp Safari, 01902 737152 JUNE 1st, Devils Pit 4x4 off road course, Bedfordshire 01582 883349 7/8th, Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 8th, Trial, Breckland LRC, 01692 404453 14/15th, Super Comp Safari, 3 Spires LRC, 01922 31631 14th, Landcraft Training Day, 01678 520820 21/22nd, GAYDON 97 ALL ROVER EVENT 21/22nd, Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 22nd, Devils Pit 4x4 off road course, Bedfordshire 01582 883349 22nd, CCV Trial, Breckland LRC, 01692 404453 JULY 5th 11th, Landcraft Driving Day, 01678 520820 5/6th, WAR OF THE ROSES, 0161 456 8224 5/6th, Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 5/6th, Joint Weekend, North Wales/Lancashire/Cheshire LRC 0161 456 8244 6th, Comp Safari, Breckland LRC, 01692 404453 11/13th, ARC Scottish Hill Rally 12/13th, National Off Road and 4x4 Show, West Wycombe 17/20th, BILLING 97, see LROI 19/20th, Trial, Staffs/Shrops LRC, 01782 627101 20th, RTV Trial, Breckland LRC, 01692 404453 26/27th, Trial, N.Wales LRC 01248 671709 27th onwards, Landcraft Holiday week in Wales, 01678 520820 ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: regarding names Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 14:22:33 -0000 From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com> >I (still) haven't got a Rover so I have no right to speak, but be advised >I've reserved a name for it when it comes: Mrs. Thatcher. perhaps this should only apply to wrecked landrovers that refuse to budge no matter how many people try and move it before being discarded for a newer (although massively underpowered) pretend 4x4. The old model can then be wheeled out on special occassions or when the pretend 4x4 is looking particularly vulnerable just to remind people of what a real 4x4 should be. have I taken this analogy too far yet? __________________________________ Simon Ward-Hastelow, Orpington, Kent, UK "DOROTHY" - 1985, 110, V8, CSW __________________________________ ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 09:42:13 -0400 From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.) Subject: Good-bye Dear all, You've all heard the saga. Well I have a new one. We messed up a brake adjustment on a Rover going to FL. I offered to truck the Rover back here, fix it, do some extras, and truck it to FL for the owner to own up to the mistake. The owner declined. I'm sure the story will be much worse when you hear it. I just looked up on my computer. Since 1993 we have taken money for service from 336 Rover owners. Out of those people 4 have had problems with us. The rest of the internet seems to be a bit quick to judge people and companies as bad by a small minority of people who whine loudly. You should take a moment to remember the other 332, the free advice we tried to give, the events we held, etc. and try to keep in mind to balance good with bad. To Ben Saltzman, Sean Lodbel, Ben Newman and Chris Weinbeck, sorry we did not connect, but to the other 332... thanks very much. To the list, I learned a lot, and had a ton of fun. But if 2 of the 4 are just going to keep this forum plugged up with personal crap against me and my company, and continue to add things to their signature like... ask we about ECR. All I can say is ask me about the other 332. Have fun you all. unsubcribe lro From: Mike Smith, East Coast Rover Co.,Inc. 1962 Coil 109" 3 door, 3.5 V8, 5 speed 1950 SI 80", lhd *under construction* 1967 SIIA 109" Dormobile, lhd *still in bits until the 80" is done* ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 06:29:19 -0400 Subject: Re: NEED A CATALOGUE This is about the third time this week we've seen a "We have it for you!" from FOUR WHEEL DRIVES. Can you either TURN IT OFF or just go away?.... It's tiring and extremely annoying. ajr ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 06:42:25 -0800 From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Subject: Re: LR tyres At 7:02 AM 2/19/97 -0500, "Peter CHADWICK at Bobignypc1 ; > In a quest for increased overall gearing ratio and ground clearance > (1987 90"), has anyone tried fitting any of the following tyres to a ; Land Rover ? ; > 265/75 R 16 ; 32x11.50 R 15 > 33x12.50 R 15 ; > Any fouling problems ? ; I have a set of BF Goodrich Mud Terrain 265/75 R 16s on my 109 regular. There is no clearence problems at all. They look like they were made for the car. Mind you they should have 7 inch rims. I use a slotted black stamped steel wheel that is shipped as the spare for US Spec Discoverys. Its the same rim that is the "stock" D90 wheel that you never see because all the US spec D90s had the "Optional" expensive alloy wheels fitted. This black steel wheel looks much better on a serirs car that any of the original wheels ever did. TeriAnn Wakeman "Large format photographers look Santa Cruz California at the world upside down and twakeman@scruznet.com backwards" ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:02:37 -0500 From: reynoldsg@tfn.com (Geoffrey Reynolds) Subject: Roof Racks Sorry about the Discovery post in here, but some of the information may be useful to the leaf spring crowd, and the coil spring list appears to be down at the moment (I'm getting some odd bounced email when I try to post to it)... Some of the information in item 4 especially will be of interest to all Land Rover enthusiasts. I recently posted a request (on the coil sprung list) for advice on roof racks for my Land Rover Discovery. Here are my findings so far: 1) Brownchurch full and half length racks. These seem to be pretty well thought of and cost in the vicinity of $600 at Rovers North. I haven't found any other sources yet. On the plus side, I could drive to Rovers North and back on a Saturday and save freight charges. 2) Rovers North custom stainless steel racks. Again, these seem to be pretty well thought of, but cost around $1400 depending on "options" selected (Jerry can holders, etc.). Again, I could drive there and save freight charges. 3) Garvin Industries rack. Seems to be a bit of an unknown, but the price is reasonable at around $400 or so and it can be shipped via UPS. Same company that makes the racks for the Hummer apparantly. 4) ARB rack from Australia. ARB rates this rack's capacity at 250 kg (~550 lbs). I had been told by ARB USA that they don't bring these into the US due to shipping costs. However, Man A Fre (the Toyota Landcruiser people) have them for Landcruisers and will get them for some other vehicles (including Land Rovers). Cost is around $500-$650 depending on the vehicle and shipping would be around $200 to the Boston, MA area (they are in California). As a bonus, until the end of February, they have a 10% off sale on all ARB products. They told me on the phone that they will soon stock all ARB products for Land Rovers (including Range Rover). For now, they'll take special orders for ARB products for Land Rovers. Special orders take around 2 months to come in, according to the person I talked to. 5) Land Rover / Safety Devices expedition rack. This is available for just under $700 (plus freight shipping) from a few sources. I saw this rack at the Rover dealer yesterday and thought it was pretty rugged looking. 6) Land Rover / Safety Devices adventure rack. The Rover dealer wants $1200 for this rack, and I haven't seen a better price yet. This also looks pretty rugged, but I don't like the way it has 2 levels of rack space. It's a little too space age looking for my taste :). I'm seriously considering options 1, 4, and 5, but am currently leaning toward the ARB rack (option 4). I would appreciate any advice from others out there, especially if there's an option I have not listed (Thule and Yakima rack systems aren't options :)). Jeff ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.crane.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:05:21 -500 Subject: Grease All Flavors Is "dielectric grease" the same as white grease? Any problems with using garden variety lithium grease for electrical applications? BTW, isn't "conductive" grease a misnomer? Talking about grease, where do you apply "red rubber grease" and might other types suffice? Thanks! Mark ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ASFCO@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:26:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fender Blower Cutout In a message dated 97-02-19 09:39:15 EST, you write: >be a pipe directly connecting the blower assembly to the fender >cutout? Is there some sort of a flange bolted to the fender inside? >Mark There should be a foam piece between the outer wing skin and the blower motor assembly. Rgds Steve ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:20:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Grease , red rubber Girling rubber grease is a special formulation that doesn't react with the natural rubber used in LR and Brit braking and hydraulic systems. The stuff's cheap enough - and the consequences of a reaction from an experiment are rather dire. Use the real stuff - it's safer all around, I'd think. ajr ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.crane.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:40:15 -500 Subject: Re: Fender Blower Cutout Steve, My guess is the foam piece has long since crumbled and fallen away ... and to dust you shall return. Mark ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:46:43 -0500 From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov> Subject: Re: Roof Racks What do you anticipate carrying ? If you need a full-on custom rack for specialty items like boats, bikes or skis, perhaps a welding shop will be able to produce something for you for the same or less cash than you are talking. Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon: "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching" ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: JDolan2109@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:18:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: hub bolt/"drain"... John Taylor wrote about an unfortunate mishap and also this tip- "On many hubs the halfshaft cap bolt hole which falls centrally between two wheel nuts is drilled through to between the bearings allowing oil and perhaps water to be drained out and new oil to be added." I won't deal with all the issues of if this will properly drain everything out (Though I do think their best use is for filling during re-assembly, in service lubrication should come down the shaft?), but I do have a supplemental tip to offer: For front hubs with lockable hubs affixed- the next time you pull the hub off, think about it for a minute or so and then it is possible to replace the locking unit so that the indicator points to the correct drain hole as well as the hub position. A blotch of paint (on bolt head) also works for those w/o locking hubs and memory impairment... see ya on the old road... jim '60 88" w/OD, 1 Bbl weber, 16's, hubs (econobox?) "Nicky" jdolan2109@aol.com LR... quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised! ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.boeing.com> Subject: Freewheeling Hubs Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 08:31:47 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 05:50:54 -0800 (PST) >From: "Paul Gussack" <pcg%AM@MR.sun.com> >Subject: Freewheeling Hubs >Anyone out there give me info on the care and feeding of freewheeling hubs? It depends on what kind you've got. I installed Warn hubs on my Series III-88 shortly after I bought the vehicle new in 1973. They're still on after 24 years and 150K-plus miles, and I've never had them off, never lubed them, etc. HOWEVER, you must run your vehicle with the hubs locked periodically to ensure that the swivel pin bearings in the hubs are lubricated. Unlike many vehicles, Series Land Rovers get their hub and swivel pin lubrication from the gear oil in the swivel housings. The upper pin bearings depend on splash lubrication for their oil. But if you unlock the hubs, nothing is rotating inside the swivel housing, or at least it's not rotating very fast, so the oil is not thrown onto the upper bearings. Eventually, they will wear out and your handling will get sloppy, etc. The manual that came with my hubs recommends running with the hubs locked at least 3 miles every month. I tend to do it much more often. Obviously, it depends on how much you drive your Land Rover. If you drive it every day, I would recommend driving with locked hubs once a week, which is what I did for the first ten years I had my Land Rover as it was my only vehicle. I have never experienced sticking with my Warn hub selection mechanism, and I have given it no maintenance whatsoever other than keeping the outside of the hubs clean. The selection mechanism is lubricated by oil from the swivel ball, so there's nothing to grease. After 24 years the gasket between the outer cap and the main barrel on one hub is weeping oil, but at such a slow rate I don't worry about it. Of course, this oil is coming from the swivel ball, so I do periodically make sure the oil level there is correct. But after all these years, my hub selection levers move as smoothly and easily as they did the day I put them on. You occasionally have to rock the vehicle slightly to get them to engage, but every Warn hub I've ever used was the same way; sometimes the pins aren't quite lined up on one wheel depending on how it stopped and you have to move the vehicle an inch to two to get alignment. _______________________ C. Marin Faure Producer, Boeing Video Services marin.faure@pss.boeing.com tel(206)393-7721 fax(206)393-7741 ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:49:09 -0500 From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov> Subject: Re: Freewheeling Hubs OK I know I'm a rather dim bulb, but aren't Railko bushes self lubricating? If these are installed, the owner should'nt have to lock 'em up quite so religiously I should think. Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon: "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching" ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:00:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: Re: UK events (long) On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Simon Ward-Hastelow wrote: > these are a list of planned UK events for the next couple of months (as > listed in 4x4 and Off Road Mart) posted on the main LRO List due to > interest from visitors holidaying here. I put them all up on - http://www.off-road.com/OVLR/upcoming.other.html If anyone wants to expand on any of the events, I'd be happy to put the information up as well as any links. Thx, ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:08:14 +0000 From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth) Subject: Re: Freewheeling Hubs >OK I know I'm a rather dim bulb, but aren't Railko bushes self >lubricating? If these are installed, the owner should'nt have to lock 'em >up quite so religiously I should think. >Bill Adams No Bill.If you look at them there's an 'ole in the bottim.There's anuvver 'ole in the thrust washer inside.Presumably so the oil gets chucked up into the bush. Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:27:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: PSP & the well dressed LandRover Perforated Steel Planking was developed early in WWII for military construction applications like runways. It was easy to handle, was movable and damaged sections could be quickly repaired. The effectiveness of PSP in traversing sand was discovered by a british army unit, operating in the western desert of North Africa, while conducting long range patrols behind Axis lines. This is a whole chapter of history on it's own with lots of great off-roading stories. Since then, organizers of trans-saharan expeditions, among others, have carried PSP to help get across deep sand. Efforts to reduce weight have resulted in aluminum alloy planks. Today, no well equipped, expedition equipped, Land Rover is properly dressed without PSP, PAP or sand ladders. To buy new aluminum panels, call your local industrial distributors of aluminum. Pricing for stamped sheet product should be by weight. Cost should be less than $2 per pound, although there may be a minimum quantity. Paul Donohue 1965 RHD LR Dormobile ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:47:03 -0500 From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite) Subject: Final Indignity Okay, I was willing to accept that BMW had bought Land Rover. But the next BMW intrusion is intolerable to anyone addicted to fine British machinery. It was announced today that in the next Bond movie, 007's Aston-Martin DM5 will be supplanted by a BMW saloon! Longtime James Bond producer Albert Broccoli died last year. Things are out of control in his absence. Can we expect Mrs. Battenberg (the German lady with the corgi dogs who's married to a Greek sailor) to trade in her Land Rovers and tool around in a Unimog? Or a J**p, God forbid! Maybe the sun really has set. Ned Heite, P O Box 53 Camden, Delaware 19934 Icelandic wool catalogue: http://www.dmv.com/~iceland Archaeological tinsmithing: http://home.dmv.com/~eheite/index.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:59:02 -0500 From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov> Subject: Re: Final Indignity Too late. The wussy Pierce Brosnan (Sean IS Bond) has already been seen driving the even more intolerably wussy BMW Z3. Nothing like a hack actor in a hack car to keep me out of the theater. Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon: "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching" ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "FHYap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Good-bye Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:17:21 -0800 > From: East Coast Rover Co. <ecrover@midcoast.com> > To: Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] > You've all heard the saga. Well I have a new one. We messed up a > brake adjustment on a Rover going to FL. I offered to truck the Rover back > here, ... But if 2 of the > 4 are just going to keep this forum plugged up with personal crap against > me and my company, and continue to add things to their signature like... [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] > unsubcribe lro > From: Mike Smith, East Coast Rover Co.,Inc. Mike, I don't know you .. and if I was one of the four I might be upset .. but your overall record looks great. A 1.2% compaint is a really good figure for any service business. (Altho to be fair, just because only 4 complained doesn't mean the other 322 are entirely happy). I thought I read in one of your earlier posts that you were thick skinned. There is no need to let a few bad incidents "force" you to leave the list. (I know you are leaving voluntarily.) I enjoy the information given from the knowledgeable people on the list. FHY ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:42:00 -0500 From: "Benjamin G. Newman,MD" <medone@iag.net> Subject: CONSUMER ALERT ref. Mike Smith d/b/a East Coast RoverCo. Fellow Rover friends around the World The following is a letter I sent to ECR requesting a partial refund for the damages he has caused me. His final answer to me is I WILL NOT REFUND YOU A DIME. February 17, 1997 Dear Mike: This letter is to officially confirm my telephone conversation with you regarding my dissatisfaction with the work you performed on my Land Rover (henceforth referred to as "truck"). Let me start by summarizing the history of this situation. I initially told you that I had a truck that had brake problems that could not be fixed in Florida. You said you could make this and other repairs that I needed and that you were an expert in Land Rover repairs. You said the work would take approximately two weeks and, when asked when to ship you the truck your reply was, "Right away." I obviously, paid the shipping cost from Florida to Maine. That was over three months ago. I kept in frequent communication with you and informed you that I would need 3-weeks lead time to set my personal and work schedule for my trip to Maine. In late January, we agreed on a February 14th pick-up. I followed that phone conversation with a written communique confirming plans and dates as stated, and letting you know that I was counting on the repairs being completed as promised. When I arrived on February 14, I was shocked and dismayed to find you still working on my brakes! I was also surprised to find the exhaust system rattling, the truck dirty, the driver's door handle not installed and so little petrol in the tank. Your mechanic made one final adjustment on the brakes, took it for a test drive and reported to both you and me that the truck was now ready. As I was leaving, I discovered that the truck did not perform well. Your mechanic then worked on the booster pump and made some additional brake adjustments for approximately one hour. He then took it for another test drive and declared all was well. I said to you both, "Are you sure, because when you had previously made the same claim, all was not well." You directed the mechanic to take the truck for one more test drive and he said it was not necessary. Full of hope and confidence, I proceeded to Florida. Approximately thirty miles later in Bethany, Connecticut, the clutch started to slip and the brakes seized, smelled from burning and finally the engine stopped. Frightened, cold and heartbroken after spending so much money to have my truck repaired, I had to call for help and the truck was taken to a local Rover mechanic. After working all of Sunday on the truck at over-time charges, the following observations were made by this mechanic: 1. The wheels of the truck were probably never taken off or, if they were, you failed to recognize that the brake shoes were dangerously worn and were unevenly installed. 2. The left rear brake cylinder was non-functioning and oil was leaking from both rear brake seals. 3. The adjustors for the brake shoes were improperly installed. 4. There was air in the brake system. 5. The booster-relieve valve, which is intended only to be set by the factory, was incorrectly set by you. So, basically, what you should have done, was not done; and what you did do was done substandarly. My damages are considered the following: *Additional air fare. *Two days lost at work. *Mechanic bill for Sunday. *Three days' lodging. *Tremendous mental anguish. *Cost to repair your errors and omissions. Mike, I think it should be apparent to you why I lost confidence in your operation. I do appreciate your offer to redo things at no additional charge, however, too many things went wrong to make me feel comfortable with that proposal. Therefore, I am asking that my new mechanic complete the job that you started and that you reimburse me the expenses that will be incurred to pay him. My damages are calculated conservatively to be way over $2,000, but I am asking that you return to me $2,000 to be used to offset some of the aforementioned expenses. As you know I have already paid you over $4000.00. I couldn't be more fair in my demands. I hope this meets with your approval. Sincerely, Benjamin G. Newman,MD 1967 NADA 109 Wagon PS.ASK ME ABOUT MIKE SMITH AND EAST COAST ROVER CO. ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "S. Vels" <S.Vels> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:23:55 +0000 Subject: Re: Final Indignity > From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov> > Too late. The wussy Pierce Brosnan (Sean IS Bond) has already been seen > driving the even more intolerably wussy BMW Z3. Nothing like a hack actor > in a hack car to keep me out of the theater. Absolutely not!!. Connery was trying to be Bond. Lazenby could have been Bond. Moore was the only one with finesse enough to be Bond. Dalton, - should have stayed in the Landie. Brosnan, - needs a haircut. Pity that Moore is too old. Perhaps Q could make something out of a wheelchair. Could always put a bimmer badge on if they really need the sponsorship. rgds sv/aurens ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Leland J Roys <roys@hpkel13.cup.hp.com> Subject: Tow Hooks for Def-90? Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 12:35:31 PST Hi, I was wondering what the best way is to put tow hooks on my Defender-90. I was 4-wheeling this weekend and really needed a tow hook to link the winch cable back to. I noticed that the tie town hooks go into one hole (the hooks used for shipping the truck). Do I need to drill a second hole and put a tow hook there? Also, can I put a shackle type hook on the bumber, or is it not strong enough? Leland Roys roys@cup.hp.com 1994 Defender-90 ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:19:34 +0100 From: lopezba@atnet.at Subject: Re: Sense and Sensitivity Gentle members, >I would promise to keep away from sensitive subjects but with the deep >devotions many owners have to their particular rover I don't think this is >possible. I think this is what we need: Any newcomer (i.e. anybody who's been on the list for less than a year - sensitive areas come up at least once a year) should not be allowed to mail questions to the list in general. They should mail to an oldtimer who will then decide whether the question can be allowed on the list. All other petitioners would be directed to look at the FASQ appended to the LRO FAQ. Nobody else, on the other hand, should ever take a look at the FASQ since this might be hazardous to their health. Anybody for it? Against it? Or should we split the list again? Regards Peter Hirsch Vienna, Austria Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces) ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 21:23:55 UT From: "DAVID MOORE" <DMOOR2E@msn.com> Subject: RE: Tow Hooks for Def-90? Use the military style D-rings available from Rovers North. They will bolt onto the top of the bumper (two bolt holes line up with bumper to frame bolts) and two holes need to be drilled. I did it on my D90SW and they work very well - tried & true. ---------- From: Leland J Roys Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 1997 3:35 PM Subject: Tow Hooks for Def-90? Hi, I was wondering what the best way is to put tow hooks on my Defender-90. I was 4-wheeling this weekend and really needed a tow hook to link the winch cable back to. I noticed that the tie town hooks go into one hole (the hooks used for shipping the truck). Do I need to drill a second hole and put a tow hook there? Also, can I put a shackle type hook on the bumber, or is it not strong enough? Leland Roys roys@cup.hp.com 1994 Defender-90 ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au> Subject: Prince of Darkness (was Conductive Gel) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 08:52:00 EST >From: cascardo@ix.netcom.com (Lucas Andres Cascardo) >Subject: conductive gel >While I was cleaning dirt out of some contacts I removed a connector >Thanks, >Lucas C. Isn't a little dangerous admitting to a name like Lucas on a British vehicle list? Best Regards, Ron Beckett Editor Hillman Owners Club Of Australia Newsletter "Hillmanews" Emu Plains, Australia '87 Range Rover 4.8L auto '67 Hillman Gazelle '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 - for pictures see http://www.brigadoon.com/~craigb/hillman/hunter.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 13:38:14 -0800 From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Subject: Re: Tow Hooks for Def-90? Leland J Roys wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering what the best way is to put tow hooks on my Defender-90. [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)] > I noticed that the tie town hooks go into one hole (the hooks used for > shipping the truck). Do I need to drill a second hole and put a tow hook there? Depends exactly on what you're mounting. That "one hole" goes through the frame to the other side. The D-rings (as sold by RN) mount across the frame using a slightly longer bolt. No drilling required. I used to use those and they worked fine. > Also, can I put a shackle type hook on the bumber, or is it not strong enough? > I was wondering what the best way is to put tow hooks on my Defender-90. If you're going to use the stock bumper it will bend under load. I'd recommend installing any attachment as close to the frame/chassis attachment point for the bumper as possible AND adding backing plate behind it. I did this using 1/8 steel about 3" x6" and mounted professional 4000lb hoist swivels front and rear. I've had them under reasonable load winching (well..OK .. unreasonable, winch stalling load .. it was the "Light" Brigade :) ) and they held up fine (front pulling, rear restraing from a tree). cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "FHYap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Good-bye Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:17:21 -0800 > From: East Coast Rover Co. <ecrover@midcoast.com> > To: Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] > You've all heard the saga. Well I have a new one. We messed up a > brake adjustment on a Rover going to FL. I offered to truck the Rover back > here, ... But if 2 of the > 4 are just going to keep this forum plugged up with personal crap against > me and my company, and continue to add things to their signature like... [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] > unsubcribe lro > From: Mike Smith, East Coast Rover Co.,Inc. Mike, I don't know you .. and if I was one of the four I might be upset .. but your overall record looks great. A 1.2% compaint is a really good figure for any service business. (Altho to be fair, just because only 4 complained doesn't mean the other 322 are entirely happy). I thought I read in one of your earlier posts that you were thick skinned. There is no need to let a few bad incidents "force" you to leave the list. (I know you are leaving voluntarily.) I enjoy the information given from the knowledgeable people on the list. FHY ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Texasvandy@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:42:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe lro-digest ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Texasvandy@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:42:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: 'till next time In transit back to England, see y'all in a few weeks! Rover on! Chris Van Decar 94 D90 SloMo-Shun VII ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:57:09 -0700 From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com> Subject: Re: Sense and Sensitivity At 10:19 PM 19/02/97 +0100, lopezba@atnet.at, wrote >Or should we split the list again? No Peter please! I'd rather hear go around the circle again on Hubs or Coil Springs than watch that miserable little subject beat itself to death again. Rick Grant 1959, SII "VORIZO" rgrant@cadvision.com www.cadvision.com/rgrant Cobra Media Communications. Calgary, Canada Aboriginal and International Relief Issues ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:13:05 -0500 From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca> Subject: Military 109 Exhaust setup Hello all. I am trying to install a new exhaust system on a 109 which has a military chassis. It has the military shackles. I have all the pipes for a 2,25 petrol for a military frame. I got the front pipe fitted but I have a question concerning the intermediate pipe. I realize that it has to go through a hole in the crossmember behind the gearbox. After that, it looks like it has to go straight to the back along the frame rail. Here (finally) is my question. There seems to be about a 4" clearance behind the rear axle and the pipe. Is that normal or did I do something wrong. That is where the pipe bends like this /\. It seems to be really close to the axle. If it is right, why would there be bump-stops? The axle will rip apart the pipe before dreaming of hitting the rubber bump stop. Could someone with a similar setup confirm how it is supposed to be? The intermediate pipe is almost straight until it gets to the bend. Is that normal? Thank you very much, Salutations, Michel Bertrand ______ Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, / __ / \ 1963 109 PU (Rudolph) | Lucas | 1968 109 SW (in the works) | Inside | 1973 88 SW (21st century project) \ / \______/ ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Leland J Roys <roys@hpkel13.cup.hp.com> Subject: Def-90 Battery to small? Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 15:53:05 PST Hi, I have another question that came up during my weekend trip. I have a Warn 9000 xi winch for my Def-90, while trying to pull a Grand Cherokee out of the snow, the winch would only stall, it really did not seem to be pulling anywhere near the 9000 pounds. A couple of other 4-wheelers arrived and said that it might be that my batter is to weak. My defender came with a 525 cold cranking amp battery. My questions are, is this battery to small to run the winch? And if so, is it worth it to install a dual batter system? Couldn't I just buy a larger capacity battery for my one and only batter and not have 2? Thanks for any info. Leland Roys 1994 Def-90 rys@cup.hp.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 19:16:44 -0500 (EST) From: Hank Rutherford <ruthrfrd@borg.com> Subject: Re.McMaster-Carr For the record, I've dealt with McMaster-Carr for the past 10 years (in industry) and have to agree with Christopher Weinbeck, this company is a joy to deal with. Service is efficient, sales is polite, delivery is 1-2 days every time. And they are nearly 300 miles away. Inventory is astounding - you will not be disappointed. In the tradition of the Digest, I expect to be Flamed by the Eternally Suspicious of Commercial Impropriety. As such, I have placed my right hand on a Land-Rover owners manual and do solemnly swear that I have no affiliation with this company other than being a loyal customer. Amen. Ruthrfrd@borg.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:18:28 -0800 From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Subject: Re: Def-90 Battery to small? Leland J Roys wrote: > snip > My questions are, is this battery to small to run the winch? And if so, is it > worth it to install a dual batter system? Couldn't I just buy a larger > capacity battery for my one and only batter and not have 2? There are a number of reasons that could account for winch stalling/poor performance. The cold would decrease your battery's effectiveness. If it was a short pull (lots of cable on the reel) your winch will not be as effective. (Did the Jeep have it's handbrake on ? :) ). The wiring of the winch might not be ideal (ground to battery rather than frame). I'd strongly recommend 2 with an isolator setup regardless of your battery's condition/rating. It's extra insurance for an operation that inherently draws a lot of amperage and consequently has the potential to drain you dry. It's also additional insurance period. Personally I run an Optima and a Deep Discharge Marine (600 CCA?). I've stalled the winch using this but due to load not batteries. cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 19:43:29 -0500 From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com> Subject: Re: Sense and Sensitivity Peter writes: > I think this is what we need: > Any newcomer (i.e. anybody who's been on the list for less than a year - > sensitive areas come up at least once a year) should not be allowed to mail > questions to the list in general. I don't think Peter realizes it is 41 days until April 1. Regards, David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:45:28 -0800 From: Joe Schaefer <joes@olympus.net> Subject: Re: Sense and Sensitivity At 22:19 19-02-97 +0100, you wrote: >Gentle members, [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] >>devotions many owners have to their particular rover I don't think this is >>possible. >I think this is what we need: >Any newcomer (i.e. anybody who's been on the list for less than a year - [ truncated by lro-digester (was 19 lines)] >Vienna, Austria >Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces) Dear Mr. Peter Hirsh aka 'list police', 'old timer', '%#$@&^%', since you posted without any :), <g> etc I am taking you seriously. Please post a list of 'sensitive' subjects and an email address of an 'old timer' to request 'permission to post' to. Seems such a waste of time to post directly to the list if it needs to go through a censor first. Us new guy's don't want to upset the 'good old boys club'. Sheesh, it's snobs like you that made me decide to drop off the list a year ago. And gee, if I would of only hung in there...I could be a 'good old boy/old timer' by now... oh darn. Since flaming good old boys was stated in the "welcome...ha!" message as 'not to do', I guess I'm kicked off the list...oh well. Since it's MY post: buying a lr doesn't buy you a life. It just buys you a rover. Get off your computer and go spend some time in the woods with whatever you run. Regards, (yeah, you bet :) -jj ------------------------------[ <- Message 46 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:38:00 -0800 From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Subject: Storing/Preserving a Rebuilt Engine I've got a general question for all you tech types out there. I'm going to be starting in on rebuilding an engine (a spare 2.25l so I can go drag racing in Burbank :) ). I need to know how best to reassemble or treat the engine in order to preserve it during a period of non use following the rebuild. Are there particular oils, coatings, etc. that I should look at applying during or after assembly if the engine is not going to be used in a while? Thanks for any input. Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 47 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 02:13:09 -0800 From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> Subject: Re: Sense and Sensitivity Joe Schaefer wrote: > At 22:19 19-02-97 +0100, you wrote: > >Gentle members, [ truncated by lro-digester (was 30 lines)] > computer and go spend some time in the woods with whatever you run. > Regards, (yeah, you bet :) > -jj Wow! Something really got you goat Joe? Take it easy! There is a little ritual on this list, which I, having only been here seven or eight months have spotted. It's harmless, and it's part of the fun of having been here with all these guys before - when someone new comes in, and asks a question which everyone knows will start an almost never ending discussion with widely diverging views, everyone whinges a little! No one is blaming the newcomer, but like newcomers anywhere you have to take the rough with the smooth, and take it a little easy once in a while. Five months ago, I asked a simple question about free-wheel hubs - and in doing so I unwittingly started a (re)discussion which went on for two weeks and ran into four or five hundred postings. For me this was interesting, and I would ask such a question again without batting an eyelid, because I value the wide range of opinion on this list, not because folks disagree, but because they have wide ranging basis for agreeing - their locations, trucks, country and use of vehicle differs, so agreement is almost ruled out beforehand. If you listen to their opinion, you learn. Peter is know on this list for his Austrian humour, which like his choice of car is coloured with more than a tad of anglo-saxon understatement and irony - I am sure his suggestion wasn't THAT serious. For anyone who takes this list just a little seriously, it is very hard indeed to be upset with Peter, even though I only know him as the signature from Vienna with the Series I. Maybe I'm wasting my time explaining this to you, by your tone and your apparant abundance of tolerance, I would seem that your reaction to Peters letter is well off-mark. No-one censors this list, even Bill, who provides the server and manages the Major is apparantly very tolerant in his administration of the bandwidth which we all enjoy. But lack of such censorship has its price - if you want free speech, you have to tolerate it, even when it expresses ideas which you don't like. And pardon me from disagreeing with you, but when you buy a land Rover, you do buy a life - it's just up to you whether you enjoy it or not... You sound as it you might be happier with a mercedes? welcome back to the list! Don't be upset by the "old timers" we can all learn a great deal from them. :-) <g> Adrian Redmond --------------------------------------------------- CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK (Adrian Redmond) Foerlevvej 6 Mesing DK-8660 Skanderborg Denmark --------------------------------------------------- telephone (office) +45 86 57 22 66 telephone (home) +45 86 57 22 64 telefacsimile / data +45 76 57 24 46 mobile GSM (EFP unit) +45 40 74 75 64 mobile GSM (admin) +45 40 50 22 66 mobile NMT +45 30 86 75 66 e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk HoTMaiL (www.e-mail) channel6denmark@hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 48 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:16:44 -0800 From: Greg Moore <gmoore@island.net> Subject: Re: Sense and Sensitivity Adrian Redmond wrote: > Five months ago, I asked a simple question about free-wheel hubs... I think it's time we left all this and moved on to cup holders or something ;-) Cheers, Greg ------------------------------[ <- Message 49 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: lenny@fof.coracle.com (Lenny Warren) Date: 19 Feb 97 20:11:20 +0000 Subject: None From: lenny@fof.coracle.com (Lenny Warren) >and am really enjoying it. However, do we get EVERYTHING on the digest? >Maybe if everyone sent a list of everyting had posted then you could check >those lists against what you have.... but then how would you know if you Now there's an idea, YEAH!!!! >received all the lists? :-) OK I'll try and be serious (Itried it before ^^^^^^^^^^ Why start now??? ;-) >and everyone gave me shit so now I give up) theoretically you get everything, >the list server should at regular intervals archive the material it has and I suppose so! >send you a packet. BUT the list server is a computer and computer (of >whatever make) are dumb and can make mistakes. So yes and then maybe no. Har har har..... are you calling the Major a dumby????? Catch you later, Lenny... 145/2 ... Fidonet: 2:259/36.12 Internet: lenny@fof.coracle.com ... 2:259/69.51 ... "Push to test."......<click>......"Release to detonate." --- Terminate 4.00/Pro -- | Fidonet: Lenny Warren 2:259/36.12 | Internet: lenny@fof.coracle.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 50 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Easy come, Easy go Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 21:35:32 -0600 From: "Keith W. Cooper" <kwcooper@aristotle.net> I have just sold my recently acquired Diesel SIIA. Before you judge me unfairly, just know that it was difficult to pass up the offer. But now I am left again without a Series Land Rover. I am looking now to replace it. I plan to take my time and look over all the options (again). I would like another Series II or maybe III, probably an 88", but darn those 109"'s are great! One thing's for sure, this time petrol. If anyone has anything in mind or knows of something out there, please forward the information my way. I'm in no hurry and am looking for something in pretty decent shape. Thanks in advance and everyone stop by and take a look at our first club newsletter from the newest little club down here in Arkansas. Its a small newsletter, but I know that with the interest we've had here, it will grow! It can be found in our new "newsletter archive" section on our club home page at: http://www.aristotle.net/~kwcooper/ALRA.html Thanks! ------------------------------[ <- Message 51 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Hudson29@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:57:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Shimmy Greetings! Although I have been a Land Rover owner for 25 years, I am new to "The List." What a terrific idea! Back in '72 or '73, I installed a Rochester carbureter on my '71 IIA 88. It made a big improvement over the stock unit, which was overhauled 2 or 3 times under warrantee and more often than not was running ridiculously rich. The carbureter was part of a kit sold by the Man-A Free Co. somewhere in the San Fernando Valley (CA). Some years later, Hugh Stewart, who owned British Pacific offered a similar kit. The Rochester runs well, and gives very little trouble. The carb. kit is readily available, and the unit is very easy for a novice to overhaul. The main jet is also easy to change to adapt to higher altitude. The Land Rover gets miserable mileage with either carb (about 15 to 18 mpg) but that may only be because my boot is always flat on the floor. I was interested in the discussion about the freewheeling hubs. In the last few hundred miles, my poor Land Rover developed a shimmy. At first it only occurred on hitting a bump at speed. Now, it is likely to occur at any speed over 20 mph. I have Warn hubs, and rarely ever engaged them even off road. It seemed more sporting to see how far I could get without 4WD. Did I damage something in my ignorance, & if so what? I "retired" the car about 5 years ago to await it's turn in the restoration line. That time will be hear soon as I am getting close to finishing my old Norton. The motor still runs fine, but pumps copious amounts of Castrol's finest out of the front & rear main seals. In view of the age of the vehicle, and the oil seeps & leaks from every conceivable joint, I thought I would probably have to take it all down to bits and put it back together from the start. Any opinions? Paul O'Neil Fullerton, CA Hudson29@aol.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 52 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Re: Re.McMaster-Carr FWIW, web site is: <http://www.mcmaster.com/>. Never used 'em, never talked to 'em, barely looked at their web site. YMMV --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ ------------------------------[ <- Message 53 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 09:30:19 -0400 Subject: Re: conductive gel Re: COnductive gel is dielectric grease: Errrrrr...not really. Dielectric greases as used in electronics applications are designed for insulating properties and thermal conductivity as opposed to weatherproofing. They also display the undesirable characteristic of creep undere thermal cycling (desirable in heat-sink applications), which can cause connectors to stop connecting after repeated temp. cycles and time. The glop used in connectors in a very low-shear-strength lube that the connector pins can push out of the way easily, but will cling to prevent oxidation. Sorry, but that white stuff can ruin your whole day..... -ajr ------------------------------[ <- Message 54 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:09:08 -0800 From: Joe Schaefer <joes@olympus.net> Subject: Re: Sense and Sensitivity At 02:13 20-02-97 -0800, you wrote: >Wow! Something really got you goat Joe? Take it easy! Yeah, something got my goat, it's 'old timers', as in time being a subscriber not as in age, whining about old threads. That's part of being on a public forum. Use your "DELETE" key folks and get over it. I've seen this same crying on other lists where if people just deleted maybe six messages and got on with it, it would be over. But nooo, the 'old timers' have to go whining that "we" already discussed this, then other 'old timers' have got to back "them" up carrying on the crying thread for another dozen messages and that somehow is supposed to somehow put the new guy in his place? So it's bad to post/reply regarding a previously discussed thread but it's ok to carry on an endless thread 'whining" about people who did? Ok, now I got it... Sheesh. If you feel the need, please reply directly, not to the list. Regards, (I mean it this time :) -jj ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joe Schaefer Nordland, WA USA mailto:joes@olympus.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------[ <- Message 55 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden) Subject: Re: Military 109 Exhaust setup Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 9:00:49 GMT > Hello all. I am trying to install a new exhaust system on a 109 which has a > military chassis. It has the military shackles. I have all the pipes for a [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)] > Could someone with a similar setup confirm how it is supposed to be? The > intermediate pipe is almost straight until it gets to the bend. Is that normal? I'll have a look tonight. I currently have the front pipe out - in order to get at one of the gearbox mounts. The only thing is, mine is an SIII - might be different? (my exhaust has a /\ in the front pipe that goes over the left gearbox mount) Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) ------------------------------[ <- Message 56 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:00:20 +0100 From: u940470@studbo.hit.no (Bengt M Tovslid) Subject: SIIa picture The address for my homepage is: http://bolinux1.hit.no/~u940470/ And here you can see my LR with Nissan 2,8 diesel (six syl.), and click on the picture and you come to Land Rovers homepage. Bengt ------------------------------[ <- Message 57 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au> Subject: RE: Storing/Preserving a Rebuilt Engine Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:13:00 EST Yes. There is a rebuild oil/grease. I can't think of the brand but I'm pretty sure it was a US product. I've got a tube at home ready for a rebuild of a spare low mileage engine I've got. (pulled it down, found bugger all wear so I'm reassembling it). Trouble is - the tube's at home and I'm at work so I can't check for you. Best Regards, Ron Beckett Editor Hillman Owners Club Of Australia Newsletter "Hillmanews" Emu Plains, Australia '87 Range Rover 4.8L auto '67 Hillman Gazelle '71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660 - for pictures see http://www.brigadoon.com/~craigb/hillman/hunter.html ---------- From: Jeremy Bartlett Cc: mendo_recce@off-road.com; Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com Subject: Storing/Preserving a Rebuilt Engine Date: Thursday, 20 February 1997 11:38AM I've got a general question for all you tech types out there. I'm going to be starting in on rebuilding an engine (a spare 2.25l so I can go drag racing in Burbank :) ). I need to know how best to reassemble or treat the engine in order to preserve it during a period of non use following the rebuild. Are there particular oils, coatings, etc. that I should look at applying during or after assembly if the engine is not going to be used in a while? Thanks for any input. Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 58 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 970220 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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