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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 7:02:28 EST

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:08:48 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Unsubscribing successful!!!

Hi Guys

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From: lroshop@idirect.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:11:17 +0000
Subject: Re: 

> From:          "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
> Reply-to:      Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
> To:            Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
> X-To:          P Wright <pwright@aol.com>
> Date:          Mon, 10 Feb 97 21:44:00 EST

> Look, what's your problem?  I have sent  several messages
> Reply-to:      Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 25 lines)]
> Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!
> I never subscrbed!!!
Is this anything to do with the threatened AOL massacre coming up on 
Valetines Day?  I understand certain email messages will destroy any 
hard drive they come up against.  This was reported in the Toronto 
Globe & Mail on Saturday. 
LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

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From: "david alan swap" <95051210@95.humber.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:21:34 GMT
Subject: LIGHTWEIGHTS

I have just got a Ex MOD Lightweight and it is on a dreaded Q plate. 
Can anybody tell me how I go about getting an age related plate.

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.crane.navy.mil>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:15:43 -500
Subject: Yeah Adrian!

"Nothing bothers me more than a clean Land-Rover."
Thanks Adrian, I couldn't have said it better myself.

BTW, are LR enthusiasts more likely to relate to: 
other off-road vehicle owners (Bronco/Blazer/Jeep/etc...) or
other British non-off-road vehicle owners (MG/TR/AH/etc...)

All comments Invited!  Mark

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From: "david alan swap" <95051210@95.humber.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:23:50 GMT
Subject: re: please take me off the mailing list!

From:          "Zijp, Ferenc-Jan van" <fjvzijp@telecom.ordina.nl>
Please don't keep sending me all this main I cann't get any work done 
on my Lannie! (It needs it!!)

Please only send me stuff on light Weights

PLEASE!!!!!

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: 
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:21:13 +0100 (MET)

| Is this anything to do with the threatened AOL massacre coming up on 
| Valetines Day?  I understand certain email messages will destroy any 
| hard drive they come up against.  This was reported in the Toronto 
| Globe & Mail on Saturday. 
| LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

AH! There it is again. The fake of the email virus is appearing
very couple of months. 
How the hell should a email do anything to my HD? Remember there
are not only Windows boxes on the net and even most UNIX machines
are not binary compatible due to different CPUs.
These poor souls have most likely been subscribed by someone else,
or the Major is partly on strike again.

So long ..
Franz
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Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-
                                  

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:26:31 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Unsubscribing succeesful !!!

Hi Guys

I unsubscribed successfuly by typing the following:

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I understand from Dean Cording that this format works as well:

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:42:02 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Unsubscribe / There are two llists!!!!

I successfully unsubscribed from Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net
but I get messages from Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com, now I have
tried to subscribe to Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net, without
success, Now I am confused!!! any ideas??

Rgds

Stan

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:44:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Coast Guard

In a message dated 10/02/97  11:48:38, Mike Rooth wrote:

<< unspeakably naff Japcrap.But you will admit that a police vehicle
 in other than high visibility paintwork is unusual.Since the S111
 in the Hamish Macbeth series was not,as far as I remember,a jam
 sandwich,that,in fact was what prompted the remark.
  >>

Ok Ok .... I bit to hard.  On the west coast the police houses nearly always
have Land Rovers, you can't even get to a lot of houses in a saloon car.  The
SIII 88s were alway inconspicuous.  As they get replaced they are replaced
with 90 jam sandwiches.  There are many reasons why the actual officers think
this daft, apart from the obvious beacon effect a Land Rover tends to get
scatched etc. in the wilds and a pretty paint job is not a good idea.  

I did try very hard for the job of maintainance engineer on the radio masts
dotted accross Galloway as the car that came with that job was a police Land
Rover SIII.  They didn't see why a computer geek thought he was suitable for
the job and although I tried hard I failed to convince them otherwise I
didn't get the job.  All the police radio masts are on remote hill tops and
so every day would be spent off road in a Land Rover being paid for it.  As I
used to do (computer) support work for them I even had the computer manager
from the HQ as a reference but they seemed to think that experience would be
more important than enthusiasm, can't understand why.......

The electricity board in Scotland use 130s and since moving down here (the
Cotswolds) I have noticed a lot of electricity board 130s here as well.  BT
tend to use 90s.  I haven't yet seen the electric board or BT with a
Toy-o-cars but I do accept that that does not mean they don't exist.

Regards

Jamie

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:46:23 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Anyone get my message on how to unsubscribe??

Hi Guys

Did anyone get my messages on how to unsubscribe, cause I did not, even
though I had re-subscribed, It seems that I am now back on line on this
list.

Rgds

Stan

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:51:00 +1100 (EST)
From: Dean Cording <dean@holly.cbr.aspect.com.au>
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe / There are two llists!!!!

On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Stan wrote:

> I successfully unsubscribed from Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net
> but I get messages from Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com, now I have
> tried to subscribe to Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net, without
> success, Now I am confused!!! any ideas??

There is only one list.  land-rover.team.net is an alias for
playground.sun.com.  The land-rover-owner list has quite a few members and
so it can take some time to send a message to all users.  After you
unsubscribe you will still receive any messages that were in the queue at
the time.

Dean
=============================================================================
Dean Cording                                   ASPECT Computing P/L
                                               86 Northbourne Ave
Dean.Cording@aspect.com.au  (Work)             Canberra, ACT, 2601, AUSTRALIA
Dean@holly.aspect.com.au    (Private)          ACN. 005 083 670

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:00:32 +0100
From: Jody Scharrenborg <jody@cyberlab.nl>
Subject: Unsubscribe/two lists

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:09:22 -0500
From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Gearbox Blues II

At 10:40 97-02-10 GMT, you wrote:

>2.) That castle nut on the front output flange on the 4wd housing. This
>is real tight, even though Ian Robinson (LRO-UK listserv's "resident garage")
-says they never have any trouble. I've tried virtually everything.
>Clamping  (in a workmate), wedging it with a screwdriver (one bent Chrome
-Vanadium Screwdriver, although I didn't care for it much),etc. Even left
>it a week in WD-40. Anyone any more ideas?
-

Try using an impact driver, electric, or air-powered. Worked for me for both
front and rear output flanges. Seems that there is enough torque to turn the
nut without having the flange spinning. 

Give it a try...

Michel

Michel Bertrand
						______
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, 		       /    __
					      /        \
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)	   		     | Lucas    |
1968 109 SW (in the works)		     |  Inside  |
1973 88 SW (21st century project)	      \        /
					       \______/

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:19:17 -0400
Subject: RE: spin on oil filter

Re: 2.5 spin-on adapter:

I've tried to locate one of these mythical beasts with little success. Any
suggestions as to a source of supply?

                                   ajr

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From: Easton Trevor <Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
Subject: VW Diesels
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:55:00 -0500

Marko Ylikorpi asks about VW Diesels. I too have considered this as a
possible power source for the Series 1 in the event that the 2 litre
turns out not to be a runner. A colleague at the office is a great VW
diesel fan and user. He claims that his vehicle is at its best with a
heavy (4000lb) trailer attached (It goes great, doesn't stop too
well!!!) and has plenty of torque to move something as light as a Land
Rover.

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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:02:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Oil film

On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, scooper@scooper.seanet.com (John & Sandy Cooper) wrote:
>Anyone have this condition?  While driving at highway speed for any period
>of time a "film" of oily dust becomes apparent on the rear of the vehicle,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
>Any advice as to the causes of these problems would be welcome.
>Thank-you,  John Cooper 1969 11a swb
The oily film is quite common on my Rover.  I think it has to do with the oil 
being slung out from under the Rover and the aerodynamics of the vehicle that 
sucks whatever is under the vehicle and slaps it back on the rear door.

The clutch problem you describe might be some air that is getting trapped in the 
clutch line....this then expands and acts like resting your foot on the clutch 
pedal.  Just a suggestion...

Rgds,
_______________________________________________________________________
Eric Zipkin  Bedford, NY  USA  *  ericz@cloud9.net  * www.cloud9.net/~ericz
SIII 109" V8 Hardtop * SII 109" SW (since new) * '63 Triumph Spitfire
SIIA 88" (project car)  *  '67 Mini-Moke * '94 Car Trailer: "NOT FOR HIRE"
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: g@ix.netcom.com (Gerald)
Subject: Re: 
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:08:10 GMT

On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:11:17 +0000, you wrote:

>Is this anything to do with the threatened AOL massacre coming up on
>Valetines Day?  I understand certain email messages will destroy any
>hard drive they come up against.  This was reported in the Toronto
>Globe & Mail on Saturday.
>LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

Bringing a lap top with this email message into a Land Rover will
cause the electronics to put it into permanenet 2 wheel drive mode
(sorry, this offer not available for series vehicles.)

--
Gerald
g@ix.netcom.com

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:28:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 80W90 or 85W140 (was Re: What do I buy?)

In a message dated 97-02-09 20:41:15 EST, you write:

<< What is the prefered alternative to EP90: 80W-90 or 85W-140 gear oil. I
 haven't found a source of straight EP90 yet.
  >>

My mechanic says in summer it doesn't matter.  In winter, there may be a
nominal improvement in the performance with the 80W-90 since it flows a
little better in winter  when the gearbox (and swivel balls) are cold.  Once
warmed up, the 80W-90 is at manufacturers spec.  The 85W-140 will "stick" a
little better to surfaces but it exceeds manufacturer spec.  (In fact both
do, so it probably doesn't matter much).

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:12:15 -0800
From: Nils Frederiksen <newsnet@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: (no subject)

>From: PWright@aol.com
>Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:28:17 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

>I never subscrbed!!!

Maybe the LR mailing list is one of those ADDED SERVICES that the folks 
at AOL just didn't tell you about  --  sort of like perpetual busy 
signals!
Bite the bullet  -  buy a Landie  -  and you'll have better things to do 
with your spare time that not subscribing to mailing lists!

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:06:37 -0500
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Etchings on L-R

Question?  
	Does anyone know if there was a club or something that had a lion
etched on the back glass?  My L-R has one,  and I remember seeing one as
a child too.  Also a co-worker said that they saw one 2 months ago in
Rochester NY (list member?).  My L-R (Chester) hasn't been to Rochester
since I bought it about a year ago...Hmmmm
-- 
                                    ____________
                                    Mike Johnson
                                74 SIII 88 (Chester)
                                73 SIII 88 (Jezebel)
                           http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm
                           _____________________________

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:30:01 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Unsubscribing from Land Rover list

To unsubscribe type the following to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net

unsubscribe Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net PWright@aol.com

Rgds

Stan

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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: 
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:39:16 +0100 (MET)

| Bringing a lap top with this email message into a Land Rover will
| cause the electronics to put it into permanenet 2 wheel drive mode
            ^^^^^^^^^^^
Ha??
I never found something that could be called electronics despite
the radio in my 110........
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Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
		   http://www.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de/~franz
       _______
      [____|\_\==
      [_-__|__|_-]      Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D
 ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..-
                                  

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:44:14 -0800
From: Nils Frederiksen <newsnet@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: (no subject)

>  This is truly an epidemic of unreal proportions.  I go away for a short
> holiday and come back to find 1200 messages!  I wish some one could let me
         [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
> Cheers,
>  MKJTo unsubscribe just send the message to 
>  Majordomo@playground.Sun.Com not

Seems there's a lot of confusion about the major's address:

The address that I see listed at the top and bottom of my daily digest 
is:
majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net

LR content, sort of:
I've recently stumbled across two nice models of Defenders.
One is a 1/32nd scale diecast that's actually 4 wheel drive (It has a 
friction motor in it, plus a pair of differentials and a drive-shaft 
linking front and rear axles  -  rev it up and it climbs like the 
dickens!)  It's Chinese made... about 5 bucks each...  at my neighborhood 
W*L-M**T  --  about the only thing I'll ever find for my Landie there.

The other toy is about about 1/32nd scale... molded plastic -  Good 
details and proportions for a 90, though the pull-string in the back for 
the motor spoils the lines a bit.  It was also in the 4 to 5 dollar 
range.

Life-size LR content  -  any suggestions for size and CCA output for a 
replacement battery for my 1970 SIIa??  I don't have a lot of 
accessories, but I need something that will turn it over nicely on a cold 
winter morning.  Any opinions!

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Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 07:46:19 -0000
From: "Kerry M. Oldham" <66lndrvr@itsnet.com>

unsubscribe Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net PWright@aol.com

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:58:00 -0400
Subject: Re:Battery Size:

The proper size battery to put in your Series vehicle is the biggest thing
that will fit in the battery box, in my opinion.

The one in Churchill is an Eveready 1000CCA beast - it fits the box, and I
don't think it would be possible to run it down cold-starting - at least I
never have.

My logic is this - if you blow a genny or alternator in the bush - the
bigger the battery, the longer you have before the old beast gives up the
ghost.

Of course, with the Killer Winch from Hell on the front bumper, no battery
is big enough...

                              ajr

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:18:54 -0500 (EST)
From: rovah@agate.net (John Cassidy)
Subject: Anyone in Arizona?

Just thought I'd ask if anyone is located in the Tuscon AZ, area.  My
family and I are heading out there the last week of this month.  We're
going to be staying at one of the ranch/resorts, but apparently they'll let
us off the ranch for good behavior! ;-)

Cheers!  John

John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA
XO of the VMFA 509th COUGARS

2 Wheels: Ducati M900, Velocette Thruxton, Moto Morini 350S
4 Wheels: 1995 Discovery, 1987 Range Rover(Smedley), 1966 Series IIA(Pondoro),
   1974 Series III(Swambo)

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:42:05 +0800
From: Manny Garcia <mann@epic.net>
Subject: un sub scribing

everyday, i see the major's  message - first 2 lines of every mail body
(real time - i don't know how it looks from the digest version) :

- not at Majordomo@playground.Sun.Com

probably, the major travels a lot as he's got a lot of addresses.  so my
guess is - you guys can't catch up to him :)

- but seriously, try sending a message to Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
subject : un sub scribe <<your e-mail address>>
also, put in mail body un sub scribe <<your e-mail address>>

assuming the major has other mailing lists to attend to, he probably doesn't
know where you're subscribed to - with the Land-Rover.Team.Net address -
logically, you would be un sub scribing to LR mailing list.

if this fails, then there's really a problem - We're all stuck in this
mailing list as long as we retain these addresses.
----
un sub scribe <- intentional to prevent lucas deamon from accidentally
throwing me out of the list.

regards to all

mann

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:24:02 +0000
From: Ian Harper/Donna-Claire McLeod <tantramar@golden.net>
Subject: Spin on adaptor

People looking for a spin-on filter adaptor for Series vehicles should
call Paul Socholotiuk in Toronto at 416-504-3633		His price is well
below the $85US quoted for the 2 pce one mentioned a couple of days
ago.  He charges about $50 cdn (depending on the day!)

These are great, and I have used one in my S3 for the past 3 years with
absolutely no complaints.

Cheers, Ian
-- 
Ian Harper/Donna Claire McLeod
http://www.golden.net/~tantramar
Tantramar House Bed and Breakfast
Stratford, Ontario
Phone(519) 273-7771  Fax (519) 273-3993

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:00:32 +0100
From: Gee Hurkmans <Gee.Hurkmans@feo.hvu.nl>
Subject: 110 stationwagon CAMPER conversion

Hi there,

I'm thinking of converting my '91 110 Tdi stationwagon into a camper.
Does anyone know of any books, specifications, drawings, or any other
information that I could use?

Thanks,

Gee C.M. Hurkmans
Holland
e-mail: Gee,Hurkmans@feo.hvu.nl

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:02:43 +0000
From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: email viruses

> Is this anything to do with the threatened AOL massacre coming up on 
> Valetines Day?  I understand certain email messages will destroy any 
> hard drive they come up against.  This was reported in the Toronto 
> Globe & Mail on Saturday. 
> LRO SHOP (NORTH AMERICA)

ARGGHHH! (beating his head against the wall)
E-mail messages *CAN NOT* do anything to your system. E-mail is a 
text file, text can't hurt your machine. Someone *could* attach a file 
that contains a virus or ActiveX control that could wipe your 
system, but it couldn't do anything until you open or run the 
attachement. That's why you should use a *good* AV program to scan 
attachments, although that won't protect you from rouge ActiveX.

For instance, MS Word is *very* prone to macro viruses (the most famous, 
Concept, was distributed by MS on their developer CD). One that's 
been going around here on campus is the MDMA macro virus which runs 
Deltree /y on your system. It does whacko things on Macs also.
(Do not rely on MS ScanProt, it gives a false sense of security, but 
will let macro virus run under several common circumstances).

ActiveX controls are another matter. Used in many apps, and 
downloadable from the web, they can be *very* dangerous. A famous one 
to demonstrate their danger is called Internet Exploder. It reformats 
your hard drive when it's run. AV programs won't protect you from 
them.

Sorry for the length of an off topic. Maybe something like this could 
be put in the mailing list faqs, so people might quite with the "Good 
Times" warnings.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:08:13 +0000
Subject: Re: your mail

A possible problem with unsubscribing is not trying it from the same 
address you subscribed from. The major doesn't allow that. I ran 
into that problem when a domain was renamed here and the default 
return address attached by the system changed from what it was when 
I'd subscribed. I had to manually change it back to unsubscribe.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:14:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: VW Diesels

>He claims that his vehicle is at its best with a
>heavy (4000lb) trailer attached (It goes great, doesn't stop too
>well!!!) and has plenty of torque to move something as light as a Land
>Rover.
Well, maybe something as light as a series one, and maybe with a turbo. But
the main prob with the VW light diesel is lack of adequate protection for the
timing belt, and no other way to time the cam. A twig or a little water and
mud could cause thousands in damage in any currency.
I have enough stuff to build a couple of 2.4 six cyl diesels cause one of my
Volvo wagons is diesel, but the timing belt problem causes me not to look at
it to power a LR. BTW I built a normally aspirated 2.4 for the 740 (supposed
to be a TD in this market) cause my daughter was going to use it more than me
and I didn't want to be worrying about turbo cooldown. It seems about as fast
as the other wagon which has the 2.3fi petrol engine and automatic.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:16:56 -0500
From: Erik van Dyck <erikvandyck@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Unsubscribing

What's the problem?  I unsubscribed a few days ago and got a confirmation a
few minutes later.  "Unsubscribe" must be in the message text, not the
subject.  I assume the exercise was successful, but as I no longer subscribe
to aol (the reason for the unsubscribe) I'll never know.  Perhaps that's
what these unfortunates need to do - change internet providers to get away
from the Digest.  ;)
Erik van Dyck
Ser.  III  88"

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:12:56 +0000
From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Testing unsubscribe

> Date:          Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:44:38 +0200
> From:          stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> X-To:          Majordomo@playground.sun.com
> Subject:       Testing unsubscribe

> Well that did'nt work!
> From:          stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> lets try this.
> unsubscribe Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net stan@rgo.co.za
Read the header on every message, to wit;
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at:

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 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:31:58 -0800
From: Greg Moore <gmoore@island.net>
Subject: Re: Gearbox Blues II

Richard Marsden wrote:

> 2.) That castle nut on the front output flange on the 4wd housing. This
> is real tight, even though Ian Robinson (LRO-UK listserv's "resident garage")
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> Vanadium Screwdriver, although I didn't care for it much),etc. Even left
> it a week in WD-40. Anyone any more ideas?

Are you turning the right way? Just a thought ;-)

Cheers, Greg

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:55:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Dummies guide to unsubscribing and more from AOL

In a message dated 10/02/97  14:12:20, Nils Frederiksen wrote:

<< Maybe the LR mailing list is one of those ADDED SERVICES that the folks 
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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Gearbox Blues II
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 16:57:42 GMT

> > 2.) That castle nut on the front output flange on the 4wd housing. This
> > is real tight, even though Ian Robinson (LRO-UK listserv's "resident garage")
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> > it a week in WD-40. Anyone any more ideas?
> Are you turning the right way? Just a thought ;-)

This had crossed my mind! It is counter-clockwise, right? Ie. not back to
front?

As for impact driver: I have one from Halford's, but not convinced that it
works. Could give it another go...

Richard

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:23:37 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

Jonathan Rosenthal wrote:
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:24:01 -0800
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Gearbox Blues II

Richard Marsden wrote:
> snip
> The circlip is very stiff. I bought some circlip pliers specially, but still
> can't get it out. Perhaps the pliers are too small (if I could apply more force
> it might come out, as I can free some of the clip, but not make it small enough
> to come out)?

Yup, very stiff.  I don't recall how I eventually got it out; it's not out of 
the realm of possibility that I eventually abandoned standard circlip pliers and
used needle nose pliers assisted by wedges.  
> 2.) That castle nut on the front output flange on the 4wd housing. snip
>  Anyone any more ideas?
> can't get it out. Perhaps the pliers are too small (if I could apply more force
> it might come out, as I can free some of the clip, but not make it small enough

Seems odd.  How about a propand torch? ("heat wrench") ?

cheers,

Jeremy

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From: Tim Harincar <harincar@camworks.com>
Subject: New URL for UMLRG
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:07:25 -0600

Hi everyone,

For anyone who is keeping links, please note that the URL for the Upper Mississippi Land Rover Group has changed. The new URL is:

http://www.pconline.com/~harincar/umlrg/

Thank you,

Tim
---
tim harincar
harincar@camworks.com
'66 IIa 88 SW

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:42:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Unsubscribe / Paint your canvas

Perhaps we should take pity on these folk who are unable to unsubscribe and
all send a request to the Major on there behalf.

I had no problem at all in unsubscribing for the last three weeks whilst
attending trade shows. Equally no trouble at all re-subscribing.

As for Land-Rover content I ran an ex military lightweight with the canvas
spray painted with ex MOD matt paint after I washed it and all the colour
came out. It was perfectly OK just felt rather like sand paper.

Mike Rogers

(Lightweight / Range Rover Hybrid) Never had its canvas washed !!!

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 13:31:15 UT
From: "DAVID MOORE" <DMOOR2E@msn.com>
Subject: RE: spin on oil filter

lro-lite cut 23 of your 24 lines. try again if you don't mind.
thnx. DMoore

----------
From: 	Paul spatzek
Sent: 	Sunday, February 09, 1997 8:41 AM
Subject: 	Re: spin on oil filter

Stuart H. Moore-Roanoke College wrote:
> David:
> You've got a great family name!!  Anyway, sorry it took me so long
	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 24 lines)]
> Stuart H. Moore
> 1961 series II 88"

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:35:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Roberts <psu00712@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: was Diesel compressions now tubing

Shaun,
	Tubing is measured in outside diameter and piping is measured in 
inside diameter no matter what the material it's made out of

Michael Roberts
Portland, Oregon

On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Shaun Fisher wrote:

> Hi I would think that a pipe is made of copper or any metal and a 
> tube is made of plasitc or rubber.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
> Shaun Fisher
> IIA   2.25 lives.

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:49:41 -0800 (PST)
From: sosn7667@uwwvax.uww.edu (Christopher R. Sosnay)
Subject: Spy Satellites?

Hi,     
        Did anyone happin to read the front page of the New York Times
today?  There is an article entitled "Private Ventures Hope For Profits On
Spy Satellites", it as about using spy satellites for personal use for the
public.  My question to you is, would this be a nice tool  to map and chart,
uncharted areas of land not accessible to most off-road-vehicles, to find
new and better trails;  or is this just one more log on the fire of how
we(being people who try to get away from civilization with our trucks) can
no longer enjoy the PRIVET quiet spots that only we know?   Like the best
trout stream in northern Wisconsin that I just happined to stumble upon one
day. 
        Do you feel that the government is trying to sell the lost land we
live for?   The example in the article sights someone wanting to take a sail
boat in the ocean, how this would help he/she could plot his/her corse.

Feedback please.
Sincerely,
Christopher Sosnay
Whitewater, WI
"The more one does and sees and feels, the more one is able to do..."
Amelia Earhart

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:33:59 -0700
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: Spy Satellites?

At 12:49 PM 10/02/97 -0800, Christopher R. Sosnay, wrote

>public.  My question to you is, would this be a nice tool  to map and chart,
>uncharted areas of land not accessible to most off-road-vehicles,

I don't know what to think of this new service.  In Canada at least, the
entire country is photographically mapped and you can order the photos you
want, you can also get them in stereo views as well for determining relief.
Of much more use are the topographic maps which contain contour lines and
are much more easily used for off roading purposes.  I suppose that if you
wished to use your LR to go charging off through  northern forested areas
for a specific purpose it might make sense to order up a recent satellite
shot to show where the latest cut-lines and logging roads have been made
since the aerial survey but otherwise it looks like something a little too
exotic for ordinary off roading.

As for the mention in the story that yachters would make use of the
satellite service to find new and exotic cruising grounds, well I think
again that a decent chart would be of more use.  Then again, if you were
going to sail "Tinkerbelle" through the Northwest Passage you might want a
recent shot of the ice cover to find a safe way through although here again
there are cheaper ways of getting that information.

			Rick Grant

			1959, SII   "VORIZO"  

rgrant@cadvision.com	
www.cadvision.com/rgrant
Cobra Media Communications.  Calgary, Canada

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:50:25 -0800 (PST)
From: sosn7667@uwwvax.uww.edu (Christopher R. Sosnay)
Subject: Re: Spy Satellites?

        I agree with your valid points and I am aware of the wealth of
information out there on my backyard.  I guess I don't want to look at it
through that aspect.  I just feel like the US government is selling not only
pictures of my backyard, but pictures of Northern Canada or the rain forest
of Costa Reica(sp sorry)  I am not trying to take a paranoid approach and
say that the Gov. is selling its secrets, I just would like to be able to
find my way around with a map and a cumpas.  I guess I have never put my
life on the line where photos likr that migh come in handy.
Good Point!

C. Sosnay 
 

>I don't know what to think of this new service.  In Canada at least, the
>entire country is photographically mapped and you can order the photos you
>want, you can also get them in stereo views as well for determining relief.
>Of much more use are the topographic maps which contain contour lines and

"The more one does and sees and feels, the more one is able to do..."
Amelia Earhart

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:38:34 +0000
From: Dr Nicholas Mark Hacking <nick@hacking.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: spin on oil filter

In message <bulk.27620.19970210052015@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Alan_Richer/
CAM/Lotus@lotus.com writes
>Re: 2.5 spin-on adapter:
>I've tried to locate one of these mythical beasts with little success. Any
>suggestions as to a source of supply?

I have just ordered one from:

THV Promotions,
Church Villa,
Bucknell,
South Shropshire,
(England) 
SY7 0AA

They are charging (pounds sterling) 39.50 plus 2.00 p&p in the UK and
the telephone number is 01547 530 711. Source: LRW Feb '97, p. 160.

PS. Hello list. I've been lurking for a while. 1972 Series III 2.25
petrol, 1986 110 NA diesel 2.25, 1990 Discovery, was V8, now Mazda
SL35TI.
-- 
Nick Hacking          nick@hacking.demon.co.uk
                                
These promises are fair; The parties sure, 
And our induction full of prosperous hope!                       (Henry IV 1)

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:56:56 -0500
From: "Benjamin G. Newman,MD" <medone@iag.net>
Subject: Pending Trip

Fellow Rover Fans
After many months I finally  am picking up my 1967 NADA green Wagon from East Coast 
Rover in Warren Me. and will be heading south, back to Florida. Mike Smith and his Crew
have done a wonderful job taking care of all my Rover needs and keeping me informed.
My truck will be bearing Florida tags and I will be starting my trip Friday afternoon 
14Feb97.
The route of my trip will be as follows:
Fri and Sat will be in Portland.Sunday I head down to Naugatuck Ct and will be spending 
the night in Bethany Ct. Monday on down to Philadelphia for a few days.Wed I'll start 
off to Baltimore for the night and Thursday I pick up the Auto Train to Sanford Fl then 
on to my home in Geneva Fl(20miles).
PLEASE if anyone sees me on the road let me know about it.........if you see me on the 
side of the road please stop and say "HELLO".
Really looking forward to this adventure and I hope to talk to some of you folks out 
there.
Regards,
Benjamin

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From: uber@nbnet.nb.ca (JMJasper)
Subject: Re: Spy Satellites?
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:32:00 -0400

Speaking of spy satellites, did anyone read the article in Pop Mech/Pop
Electronics awile back about satellites having the ability to shut down
automobile computer chips and the govt selling the ability to the private
sector?  ie The technology can be used by agencies wanting to locate you and
or stop you dead or by a civilian firm renting the technology to police
speed trap type activities.  Of course the same technology will be used to
integrate GPS and mapping features into future cars.
Paranoia?? Probably.
All the better reason to own a 1969 ser IIa with caveman technology and a
silva compass.

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:03:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Women's Institutes

I have to admit that American Women's Institute's seem to be better than in
the UK, if this report is anything to go by (again I am only cut and pasting
and therefore am making no personal guaranties of accuracy):-

_______________________________________________________________

    CHICAGO, Feb. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- Four-wheel drive expert and adventure
consultant Daphne Greene will speak at a luncheon for Chicago area women
executives and professionals on Women's Day at the Chicago Auto Show,
Tuesday,
Feb. 11.
          The by-invitation-only event is hosted by Denise Guardino,
president of
Land Rover Centres in Hinsdale and Barrington and Bill Jacobs Motorsports in
Naperville.  It starts at noon in room S104A of McCormick Place South and
will
bring together women from a cross-section of careers.
          Greene will encourage more women to learn how to drive
off-pavement.
"Women are a major force behind the popularity of sport utility vehicles, but
relatively few know how to take full advantage of them and get the most fun
out of driving one," she notes.
          Greene fought back from two years of being bed-ridden and near
death from
Epstein-Barr disease to become the first and, so far, the only woman to make
the U.S. team in the Camel Trophy Adventure.  Considered "The Olympics Of
Four-Wheel Drive," it annually selects two-person teams representing
20 nations from more than a million applicants and takes them and their Land
Rovers to a remote spot on the globe for a challenging 1,000 mile four-wheel
drive trek.
          An adventure consultant with her own company, Twende, Greene has
organized
mountain climbing and backpacking trips in Africa, Alaska and the California
Sierra as well as led four-wheel drive excursions in the U.S.
          She will be available for interviews following her talk and will
have
B-roll of the grueling competition and trials that led to her selection for
the U.S. team and of her traverse of the jungle backroads in Central
America's
land of the Maya.
________________________________________________________________

Regards

Jamie

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:07:35 -0800
From: Chris Dow <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: Re: Pending Trip

Benjamin G. Newman,MD wrote:
> I will be starting my trip Friday afternoon 14Feb97.

Now there's a man who knows how to spend Valentine's Day.  It 
wouldn't suprise my wife if I did this, but she'd be pretty pissed.

C^D
'65 IIA 88" SW
'96 Disco SD

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:34:43 -0800
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

At 03:28 PM 2/8/97 -0500, PWright@aol.com wrote:

>I never subscrbed!!!

Aw, shucks.  He done caught us out.  Yep, we shore 'nuff go around
subscribing innocent netizens to the LR list.  

Actually, it's a secret plot by LRNA to sell more Range Rovers...  Get 'em
subscribed, then they have to buy a brand new 4.6HSE...  

--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:52:27 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: RE: spin on oil filter

At  8:19 AM 2/10/97 -0400, Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com wrote:

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>suggestions as to a source of supply?
>                                   ajr

I'd contact a company in the UK breakig up Land Rovers such as Arrow.  If
worse comes to worse, I suspect Rover would be happy to sell you one,

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:53:22 -0800
From: Greg Moore <gmoore@island.net>
Subject: Re: Gearbox Blues II

Richard Marsden wrote:

> > Are you turning the right way? Just a thought ;-)
> This had crossed my mind! It is counter-clockwise, right?

Assuming you're in the northern hemisphere ;-)

Cheers, Greg

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Trouble In Unsubscribing?
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 16:50:00 EST

I wonder  -  I notice a .lot of the request to unsubscribe merely say 
UNSUBSCRIBE.

However, the Major is quite adamant when you do subscribe that
 you should specify from what you need to unsubscribe.

To quote (with my name/address changed to protect the innocent)
 and using the address  majordomo@playground.sun.com

If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
you can send mail to "Majordomo" with the following command
in the body of your email message:

    unsubscribe land-rover-owner "User Name"  <email address>

in a similar way one should use the following to remove oneself from the 
various lists:

   unsubscribe rro "User Name"  <email address>

   unsubscribe lro-digest "User Name"  <email address>

   unsubscribecso-digest "User Name"  <email address>

I haven't found it necessary to fill in the  "User Name"  <email address>
components but it might be best.

Best Regards,

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
'87 Range Rover 4.8L auto
'67 Hillman Gazelle
'71 Hillman Hunter Royal 660
 -  for pictures see  http://www.brigadoon.com/~craigb/hillman/hunter.html

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:21:21 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Re: how to unsubscribe

RANDY BRACK wrote:
> I have been trying to unsubscribe for a long time and have been unable
> to do so.  How did you do it?  CAn you please e-mail me and help me
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> Thanks,
> Randy Brack

Hi Randy

Send the following message to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net

unsubscribe Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net ginger@accucomm.net

you should get a reply that says successful

Rgds

Stan

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From: "david alan swap" <95051210@95.humber.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:00:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Unsubscribing

Please unsoubscribe me!

Thanks

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Subject: Re: 110 stationwagon CAMPER conversion
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 11:06:14 -0000
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

>I'm thinking of converting my '91 110 Tdi stationwagon into a camper.
>Does anyone know of any books, specifications, drawings, or any other
>information that I could use?

There was an article in LRO a couple of years ago where a couple from UK 
converted a 110 Tdi into a camper and spent months touring North America 
(total of 27,000 miles), but theirs was originally a Hard Top not a SW. 
They had a roof tent for extra room and carried two kayaks aswell.

The issues to look for are August and September 1994 (if you would like 
to see the articles I could copy them and post them to you if you send 
your address)

__________________________________

Simon Ward-Hastelow, Orpington, Kent, UK

"DOROTHY"  -  1985, 110, V8, CSW 
__________________________________

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Subject: Re: Yeah Adrian!
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 11:06:10 -0000
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

>"Nothing bothers me more than a clean Land-Rover."
>Thanks Adrian, I couldn't have said it better myself.

Does this re-inforce some kind of 'I don't give a damn' macho image or is 
your landrover so badly maintained that the dirt and grime of years of 
use is the only thing holding it together?

My 110 is used in very serious off-road conditions occassionaly and it 
does get noticed when driving through town with a few inches of mud stuck 
to the side but at the earliest opportunity I wash it off and I do 
frequently POLISH the paintwork - this is not done for anything other 
than a method of preserving the paint and making it last a bit longer 
without having to re-spray.

__________________________________

Simon Ward-Hastelow, Orpington, Kent, UK

"DOROTHY"  -  1985, 110, V8, CSW 
__________________________________

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:52:10 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Re: Unsubscribing

david alan swap wrote:
> Please unsoubscribe me!

Please send the following message to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net

unsubscribe Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net  
         "david alan swap" <95051210@95.humber.ac.uk>

Rgds

Stan

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