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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 97 6:59:58 EST

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 15:00:22 +0300
From: korkas@hol.gr (PAVLOS KORKAS / DARNEL)
Subject: Stop sending me mail!!!

PLEASE, take me out from the list.

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 15:16:42 +0300
From: korkas@hol.gr (PAVLOS KORKAS / DARNEL)
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

>PLEASE, take me out from the list.

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 15:22:11 +0300
From: korkas@hol.gr (PAVLOS KORKAS / DARNEL)
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

>PLEASE, take me out from the list.

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:30:34 -0400
Subject: Re: What do I buy?

EP90:

Ah, one of the mysteries.....8*)

EP90 is 90-weight gear oil....

          ajr

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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 04:40:31 -0900
From: Paul spatzek <spatze@alaska.net>
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

Steve Stoneham wrote:
> PWright@aol.com wrote:
> > I never subscrbed!!!
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> Regards,
> Steve
unsubscribe

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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 04:41:25 -0900
From: Paul spatzek <spatze@alaska.net>
Subject: Re: Speed

Trevor Talbot wrote:
> Iwan
>       Information you wanted
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>                  2a SWB Station Wagon
>                  Ser 1 SWB
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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 04:41:44 -0900
From: Paul spatzek <spatze@alaska.net>
Subject: Re: spin on oil filter

Stuart H. Moore-Roanoke College wrote:
> David:
> You've got a great family name!!  Anyway, sorry it took me so long
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 24 lines)]
> Stuart H. Moore
> 1961 series II 88"
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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:52:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: insurance in the UK

On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, john hess <jfhess@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

>has anyone on the list made arrangements for automobile insurance for 2
>weeks while driving a borrowed car?

When I went to England last year, I had a bug up my shorts about driving a Land 
Rover for the week I was there.  The LR hire places informed me that because I'm 
under 25, I would have to insure myself.  I picked up the phone and called my 
U.S. insurance company, USAA.  They were very helpful and indicated that my U.S. 
insurance isn't valid in the UK but they would be happy to write an supplemental 
policy.  If I remember correctly, it was a flat underwriting fee plus a per day 
charge, still quite reasonable.  I bailed out of the LR hire idea because of two 
reasons, though:  It was too expensive to hire the LR between the extra petrol 
and the extra insurance and I was going to do exclusively motorway travel, why 
bother with the extra hassle.

The difficulty here, of course, is to find a decent auto insurance company.  My 
company, USAA, is great but they will only insure U.S. military officers and 
their (former) dependants.  Because so many are stationed overseas, they're 
familiar with insuring in foreign locations.  If you, your spouse, or a parent 
was an officer in the military, sign up for USAA....its is universally 
ancknowledged as the best insurance company out there. I was never in the 
service but I "inherited" membership from my father.  You can do the same if a 
parent was (or is) in the service.

Alternatively, if this is not an option, call AAA, they deal with Carnets de 
Passage and other international travel documents and would probably be your best 
bet from the U.S. side.

Rgds,

_______________________________________________________________________
Eric Zipkin  Bedford, NY  USA  *  ericz@cloud9.net  * www.cloud9.net/~ericz
SIII 109" V8 Hardtop * SII 109" SW (since new) * '63 Triumph Spitfire
SIIA 88" (project car)  *  '67 Mini-Moke * '94 Car Trailer: "NOT FOR HIRE"
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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:03:17 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: RE: spin on oil filter

So I still do not understand why people with 2-1/4 engines that want a spin
on oil filter don't just put a stock 2.5L oil filter adaptor on their 2-1/4
engines.

It seems the easy solution to me.

           |   "The Green Rover"
           |    1960 109 two door
           |    with Dormobile top
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Subject: Re: insurance in the UK
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 97 16:53:39 -0000
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

>Doe sanyone currently living in the UK have any suggestions for firms to
>contact  for this insurance?  If I had name and addresses (maybe fax
>numbers?) I could write some letters and investigate the situation.

It's bad enough trying to get insurance for a Landrover if you are the 
registered owner in the UK - the majority of insurers are only interested 
in people with a history of no accidents/convictions driving a normal 
mass produced tin box.

If you get a copy of LROI there are adverts in the back for 'specialist' 
4x4 insurers, I'm not sure whether thay could help if you're not the 
registered owner (that's something of a grey area with UK insurers).

What I've done in the past is have a drivere temporarily added to my 
policy so they can drive my vehicle with my existing insurance -I've 
never had a problem with ths before and it is probably the cheapest 
option by far as long as your driving history is similar to your friends 
and you are not classed as a bigger risk.

but then will your friend trust you?! you could end up costing him money 
if you have to claim.

__________________________________

Simon Ward-Hastelow, Orpington, Kent, UK

"DOROTHY"  -  1985, 110, V8, CSW 
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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:07:38 -0500
From: Mike Gaines <106220.1234@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Tie-Die hoods and SPOT

I suppose one has to be careful calling the SPOT trick on Liz; but the only
OBE I'll ever expect to get is Original Bloody Equipment. Wouldn't like the
Tower art all, thats where the Terretorial Army (Reservists) keeps a
ceremonial bunch of Lightweights that are all gloss paint, whitewall tyres
and polished chrome. YUK!
  BTW I picked up a book at a flea market this am (took Buster the Lab. to
make some money selling fleas) which is full of good stuff especially for
those who need to translate Imperial/US/metric etc..Plus sections on
electrical, wire guages v current capability, sheet metal work (bend
allowances x thickness etc), hydraulics and even the correct stitches to
use when repairing ripped fabric/ different thread types, rivet types
nut/bolt types and their applications. Its called the ASA Aviation
Mechanic's Handbook and published by ASA at 6001, 6th Avenue South, Seattle
Washington 98108-3307 tel 206-763-0277. The version I got was printed in
1989 so those numbers may be invalid now but its worth tracking down.
Veritable goldmine.

Cheers
Mike Gaines, Slll Lightweight `Wicked Wanda'.

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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 19:35:55 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

PAVLOS KORKAS / DARNEL wrote:
> PLEASE, take me out from the list.

HAH! Another victim falls prey to our Lucas powered listserver.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
http://www.adventures.co.za

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:45:57 -0600 (CST)
From: "Michael K. Jablonski" <mjablons@shrike.depaul.edu>
Subject: Unsubscribe

        Please unsubscribe me.  Thank you!

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:47:24 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: VW-diesel

You can't be serious.
A 2.25L diesel is slow, but a 1.6L will be silly.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 21:42:37 +0200
From: D Jordan <djordan@dbn.lia.net>
Subject: New Zealand Contacts

Hi all,
One of our members, a very ardent Land Rover-er, will be visiting family in
Whangarei, New Zealand between 3rd March and 9th April.  Ken would dearly
like to attend a LR Club event anywhere in that vicinity.    Would a NZ
correspondent on this list living in the vicinity of Auckland/Whangarei send
me an email address - or does anyone know of one.   Club listings are plenty
but only snail mail addresses that I have found.

Looking forward to hearing from someone.
Denese Jordan
LROC of SA - KwaZulu Natal.

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Subject: Painting a Rover
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 97 17:03:34 -0600
From: "Keith W. Cooper" <kwcooper@aristotle.net>

I know that this topic has probably been covered , ad nauseum, in the 
past,
but we don't have the luxury yet of a search engine for the previous
mailings archive, so I've got to go ahead and ask.

I am looking to paint my '65 IIA (now a metallic grey color) in the next
year or so and had a couple of questions.  I have found a good galvanizing
place that will strip the grey paint off my galvanized body parts and
re-galv. for a good price.

I would like to paint the rover ("Buford" as named not-so-lovingly by my
wife) the poppy red color but want to try to be somewhat historically
correct in my restoration.  Did Land Rover offer the SIIA's in this color 
in
'65?  For that matter, what colors were offered in those years?

I know this next question is likely to cause a stir.  I've seen some
aritcles about hand painting rovers.  Has anyone actually tried this and 
had
the outcome be any good?  I don't necessarily need a show-room finish as
this rover will be out in the woods alot, but don't want a really crappy
looking finish either.  If it actually works with good results, this would
be very convenient as I could do it in the garage at my home and it would
make it easier to get to all the nooks in the interior also.

As usual, thanks for all the help!!  This list is a real life-saver for me
as I'm pretty isolated from other roverites, here in Arkansas.

Thanks-
Keith

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:05:04 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

PAVLOS KORKAS / DARNEL wrote:
> PLEASE, take me out from the list.

I propose that we start a seperate list for subscribers who wish to
unsubscribe (but can't find out how to) - it seems there is an epidemic
of unskilled unsubscribers at present, all of who seem to have got here,
but don't know how to get out (maybe a winch would help?).

we could call the new list - pleasestopsendingmemail@lro.team.net

at first they were an occasional curiousity
then they were a source of entertainment
soon they will just be a pain in the ****

(Bill don't put ME on that list eh?)
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 21:32:57 -0800
From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Subject: 80W90 or 85W140 (was Re: What do I buy?)

Alan wrote:
> EP90:
> Ah, one of the mysteries.....8*)
> EP90 is 90-weight gear oil....

Now a question which will probably start a minor brush fire.

What is the prefered alternative to EP90: 80W-90 or 85W-140 gear oil. I
haven't found a source of straight EP90 yet.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:50:05 -0800 (PST)
From: scooper@scooper.seanet.com (John & Sandy Cooper)
Subject: Oil film

Anyone have this condition?  While driving at highway speed for any period
of time a "film" of oily dust becomes apparent on the rear of the vehicle,
also, the clutch engagment begins to "jutter" when starting from a stop.
Any advice as to the causes of these problems would be welcome.
Thank-you,  John Cooper 1969 11a swb

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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 20:42:56 -0500
From: "Brian Cramer" <defender@uscom.com>
Subject: Let's have our rusty RR tailgate fixed under our expired

Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 19:03:16 -0500
From: defender@uscom.com
Subject: Re: RR corrosion warranty

Hi David,

My claim was denied because I'm roughly 6 months out of my corrosion
warranty. I was told that they would probably would have paid if I was the
original owner.

My thinking was that if I could produce a list of names and chassis numbers
of a number of people (preferably 2nd owners) who had the corrosion
repaired at LRNA's cost, even though they were out of warranty, I could
make a case for myself, and in the process set a precedent for others to
have their repairs done also. 

I think that the list of names coupled with the fact that I own three of
Solihull's finest, and belong to a half-dozen or so Land Rover clubs (not
to mention The Digest) would get me a new tailgate.

What are your thoughts? Experience? Maybe a letter writing campaign would
do the trick.

If you don't mind I'd like to post this e-mail to the group in hopes of
sparking some interest.

Cheers,

Brian Cramer
888-434-4678 office
609-273-9708 home
'94 D90 (LRNA #1251)
'90 RR County
'73 SIII swb

At 06:02 PM 2/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Someone posted a valid point. My vehicle was in the dealership on a
>periodic and regular basis and while I did not get the owner's manual as
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)]
>What happened to you ? I posted my experience to the rover list but didn't
>recall you saying what  happened with your rover. When did you try to act
>on the warranty and what were you told?

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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 17:57:00 -0800
From: Greg Moore <gmoore@island.net>
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

Adrian Redmond wrote:

> > PLEASE, take me out from the list.
> I propose that we start a seperate list for subscribers who wish to
> unsubscribe (but can't find out how to)...

Gonna have to do something or we'll all soon be out of spare parts!

Cheers, Greg

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Oil film
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:04:55 -0700 (MST)

&< Anyone have this condition?  While driving at highway speed for any period
&< of time a "film" of oily dust becomes apparent on the rear of the vehicle,

The higher the speed, the better the chance of blowing any tranny leaks 
etc. onto the back of your vehicle.  This is especially true if you 
overfill your fluid levels.  If you have overdrive, run the little 
overflow hose into a bottle or into a cross member on the frame (rust 
protection!) so that it doesn't blow onto the rear.

T. F. Mills
tomills@du.edu                               University of Denver Library
http://www.du.edu/~tomills                          Denver  CO 80208  USA

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 18:33:35 -0800
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Diesel compressions

At 07:48 AM 2/7/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi I would think that a pipe is made of copper or any metal and a 
>tube is made of plasitc or rubber.

In the states, at least, we have pipe made of plastic (as in PVC).  I think
the flexible vs. rigid distinction is closer to how I've heard the terms used.

--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:44:42 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Club officers

The elections for R.O.A.V. club officers were held Saturday night at the 
annual business meeting.  For 1997, the new officers will be:

        President - Mike McCaig
        Vice President - Robert Davis
        Secretary - Jim Wolf
        Treasurer - yours truly

Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:42:57 -0600 (CST)
From: "Michael K. Jablonski" <mjablons@shrike.depaul.edu>
Subject: please, make it stop

 This is truly an epidemic of unreal proportions.  I go away for a short
holiday and come back to find 1200 messages!  I wish some one could let me
know how to stop this madness.  I love the information, but I believe this
has transformed into a "lovable" nightmare.  Land Rovers will live forever,
but should this subscription?  Someone please fill me in on unsubscribing in
plain english (or any other language for that matter)!!!!!!!     
Cheers,
   MKJ

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From: Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu>
Date: Sun,  9 Feb 97 20:44:21 -0700
Subject: Re: please, make it stop

The Lucas spirit strikes again.  And I thought I'd get bored around here ;-).

On Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:42:57 -0600 (CST), "Michael K. Jablonski"  
<mjablons@shrike.depaul.edu> wrote:
> This is truly an epidemic of unreal proportions.  I go away for a short
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> Cheers,
> MKJ
--
Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal)    <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work)
                              ".com is a mistake."

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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 23:20:41 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: please, make it stop

Michael K. Jablonski wrote:
>  This is truly an epidemic of unreal proportions.  I go away for a short
> holiday and come back to find 1200 messages!  I wish some one could let me
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
> Cheers,
>    MKJTo unsubscribe just send the message to Majordomo@playground.Sun.Com not 
the usual address you use and put unsubscribe in the text of the message.

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:08:53 +0200
From: jros@argus.co.za (Jonathan Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

Snotty snotty

Perhaps - just perhaps - there is a problem with Majordomo.Dump the
arogance and try to find out.

>I propose that we start a seperate list for subscribers who wish to
>unsubscribe (but can't find out how to) - it seems there is an epidemic

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| Jonathan  Rosenthal
| Industrial Reporter
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| Tel: (011) 633-2638
| Fax: (011) 838-2693
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:14:06 +0200
From: jros@argus.co.za (Jonathan Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: please, make it stop

>To unsubscribe just send the message to Majordomo@playground.Sun.Com not
>the usual address you use and put unsubscribe in the text of the message.

Tried that nearly six times in three weeks - majordomo insists I am not
allowed to and has promised to forward to the list owner - does this person
exist? Where do they live, is their yard fenced and if so can I burn their
landies with a well-lobbed molotov?

Seriously - I too love landies - this has become a bit overbearing with a
high noise ratio. Part of which is caused by poor slobs (me included) who
for whatever reason can;t get off and pointless (not very funny) replies.

Jon

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| Jonathan  Rosenthal
| Industrial Reporter
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| Tel: (011) 633-2638
| Fax: (011) 838-2693
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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:04:30 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: please, make it stop
From: Jan Engborg <engborg@swipnet.se>

Jon,
I made the same procedure a few weeks ago, obviously the same lack of
response from Majordomo. 982 messages waiting for me!

Somebody, what=B4s wrong?

Jan

Jan Engborg
engborg@swipnet.se

> >To unsubscribe just send the message to Majordomo@playground.Sun.Com not
> >the usual address you use and put unsubscribe in the text of the message=
>.
> Tried that nearly six times in three weeks - majordomo insists I am not
> allowed to and has promised to forward to the list owner - does this
person
> exist? Where do they live, is their yard fenced and if so can I burn thei=
r
> landies with a well-lobbed molotov?
> Seriously - I too love landies - this has become a bit overbearing with a
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 19 lines)]
> | Tel: (011) 633-2638
> | Fax: (011) 838-2693
> -------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:21:09 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Re- Coast Guard

 moaning when his new Land Rover turned up because it was a
jam sandwich (white with a red reflective waistband) whereas his old one was
>a dull air force grey/blue.  The problem being if your trundling through the
>wilds after poachers you don't want to be driving a beacon.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>Regards
>Jamie
His name wasnt Hamish Macbeth by any chance Jamie??
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 21:44:00 EST

Look, what's your problem?  I have sent  several messages
telling you how to unsubscribe from the list.
I know that several others on the list have sone the same.

Obviously, you are only trying to stir the list members and
have no intention of unsubscribing

The subscriptions are computer controlled so send the correct message.

Ron Beckett

PS to LRO readers - any chance this PWright is just a computer
generating messages?

From: PWright@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:28:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!

I never subscrbed!!!

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Gearbox Blues II
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 10:40:00 GMT

Well, back to work with a vengence at the weekend, after stalling for a little
while waiting for tools, and doing other things.

Still stalled at two points:

1.) The circlip on the main/output shaft in the transfer case. Perhaps I'm
misreading the books, and its how the mag. describes the early boxes
(give the shaft a wallop with a soft hammer).
The circlip is very stiff. I bought some circlip pliers specially, but still
can't get it out. Perhaps the pliers are too small (if I could apply more force
it might come out, as I can free some of the clip, but not make it small enough
to come out)?

2.) That castle nut on the front output flange on the 4wd housing. This
is real tight, even though Ian Robinson (LRO-UK listserv's "resident garage")
says they never have any trouble. I've tried virtually everything.
Clamping  (in a workmate), wedging it with a screwdriver (one bent Chrome
Vanadium Screwdriver, although I didn't care for it much),etc. Even left
it a week in WD-40. Anyone any more ideas?

Anyway, I am making some progress. Decided i'd start dismantling the main
box. So far this hasn't been too hard. Ian Robinson suggested a cold
chisel for the conical castlenut on the rear. This works. Had a little trouble
on the bolt on the (?layshaft? - anyway the lower one which pokes out into
the bellhousing when the cover is off). The trick for this one, is to
put the conical castle nut back on, engage 4th, then clamp the castle nut
with vice grips. Wedge the vice grips against the floor, and the bolt easily
comes loose with a standard socket set. Then the castle nut comes off with a
cold chisel, although a little more difficult than previously.

Fork assembly tonight...

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR + 4 large bits of gearbox and lots of little
bits)

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:03:17 +1100 (EST)
From: Dean Cording <dean@holly.cbr.aspect.com.au>
Subject: Re: your mail

On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Beckett, Ron wrote:

> Look, what's your problem?  I have sent  several messages
> telling you how to unsubscribe from the list.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:28:17 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: Stop sending me mail!!!
> I never subscrbed!!!

Before we get carried away with flaming these poor unfortunate souls
(mainly because they have no love of LRs) it would be wise to keep in mind
that they may well be telling the truth about having never subscribed. 

A popular way of gaining revenge or just making a nuisance for people is
to subscribe someone to as many mailing lists as possible.  This can cause
the victim some grief if they have to pay for their mail feed or use email
for business purposes.

I speak from experience here as I was previously the administrator for
another mailing list. My system was set up to refer subscription requests
to me where the email address of the sender did not match the address of
the subscription.  I was averaging about two requests per week where, when
I asked both addressees to explain the discrepancy, the subscription
addressee would claim no knowledge of the request.

It is also quite easy to spoof addresses so that the system can't pick
this up. 

Alternatively, the major may be broken and not responding to the
unsubscribe requests.  Has anyone heard from Bill lately?

Dean
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Dean Cording                                   ASPECT Computing P/L
                                               86 Northbourne Ave
Dean.Cording@aspect.com.au  (Work)             Canberra, ACT, 2601, AUSTRALIA
Dean@holly.aspect.com.au    (Private)          ACN. 005 083 670

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:05:30 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Re- Coast Guard

>Sounds like I'm in the wrong Coast Guard - the Brits get to drive around in
>gov't Land Rover's (LR fun PLUS you don't care if anything breaks).

Well,that's the upside.The downside is ours dont have any ships to play
with.

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: Richard Lucking <lucking@3s.co.uk>
Subject: RE: your mail
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:14:12 -0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I resubscribed from the web site. Worked very well, but it noticed that =
there were two different domains (we have two servers here, web and =
email) but it allowed me to subscribe anyway. Could this be where the =
problem starts??

I am far to nice to try subscribing other people so this is only a =
suggestion!

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From: 	Dean Cording[SMTP:dean@holly.cbr.aspect.com.au]
Sent: 	10 February 1997 11:09
Subject: 	Re: your mail

A popular way of gaining revenge or just making a nuisance for people is
to subscribe someone to as many mailing lists as possible.  This can =
cause
the victim some grief if they have to pay for their mail feed or use =
email
for business purposes.

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From: JmieWilson@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:22:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Coast Guard

In a message dated 10/02/97  09:23:26, Mike Rooth wrote:

<< His name wasnt Hamish Macbeth by any chance Jamie??
  >>

No, but if you switch off your telly for long enough to observe the real
world you might even notice the police Range Rovers and Discoverys on the
motorways, as well as the police Land Rovers used by nearly every rural
police force in the country.  I realise that for some people Scotland is a
heather covered hill on a toffee tin or something in a soap opera (or even
that green place that Daddy owns), but to 5,000,000 people its it is the real
world.  And yes the rural police there do drive Land Rover, which is why when
depicting the place in a soap opera the use Land Rovers.

Regards

Jamie

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:24:01 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Re: your mail

Dean Cording wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Beckett, Ron wrote:
> > Look, what's your problem?  I have sent  several messages
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> Dean.Cording@aspect.com.au  (Work)             Canberra, ACT, 2601, AUSTRALIA
> Dean@holly.aspect.com.au    (Private)          ACN. 005 083 670

There is only one way to determine this, I am going to send an
unsubscribe message to the major and copy it to the list and see if it
works!

Rgds

Stan

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:26:01 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: your mail

>Alternatively, the major may be broken and not responding to the
>unsubscribe requests.  Has anyone heard from Bill lately?

I agree with Dean here.I tried to unsubscribe,just before the
Christmas break.The Major said I had been successful.An hour
later,messages started coming through.When queried the Major
told me I was not on any other list.Result,about five hundred
messages after Christmas.Strangely,when I *re*subscribed,the
Major treated it as normal,and told me I was successful..again!
So there may be a problem.I'm pretty certain it wasnt me!
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:31:23 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Unsubscribe Test

unsubscribe stan@rgo.co.za

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:37:35 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Testing Unsubscribe

Trying again after correcting the e-mail address

unsubscribe stan@rgo.co.za

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:44:38 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Testing unsubscribe

Well that did'nt work!

lets try this.

unsubscribe Land-Rover-Owner@Land-Rover.Team.Net stan@rgo.co.za

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:47:12 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Coast Guard

>No, but if you switch off your telly for long enough to observe the real
>world you might even notice the police Range Rovers and Discoverys on the
>motorways,

Matter of fact,I watch very little TV.And I'm well aware of Scotland's
place in the world,if only because my wifes people come from the
Borders(albeit the English side).Leicestershire police use,as far
as I am aware,no Range Rovers,have two 110 vehicles,and some
unspeakably naff Japcrap.But you will admit that a police vehicle
in other than high visibility paintwork is unusual.Since the S111
in the Hamish Macbeth series was not,as far as I remember,a jam
sandwich,that,in fact was what prompted the remark.
As for soap operas and the real world,I enjoy Last of the Summer
Wine as well,but wouldnt pretend that Yorkshire is anything like
that.It,too,is home to a great many people.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:49:31 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Testing Unsubscribe

Well the major said I suceeded, now lets see if I really did by sending
this message and seeing if I recieve a copy.

Rgds

Stan

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