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1 "Mark Gehlhausen" [Gehl@124 ply vs 6 ply
2 eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit24TGMBC II
3 BUBSNOV20@aol.com 9Subscription
4 Christopher Schembri [ch6(no subject)
5 "Ron Franklin" [oldhaven19Re: 4 ply vs 6 ply
6 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 22Fwd: Camshaft for sale
7 Manny Garcia [mann@epic.17Re: Roof rack plans wanted - DAVID BROWN
8 twakeman@scruznet.com (T62Re: Old farts
9 Adrian Redmond [channel666Re: Firewall feet rust damage, gearbox-outing
10 Adrian Redmond [channel628Re: Old farts
11 "Lotus Mail Exchange" [L65NON-DELIVERY of: Re: Old farts
12 "Lotus Mail Exchange" [L70NON-DELIVERY of: Re: Firewall feet rust damage,...
13 Jeremy John Bartlett [Sb18Non LR Hummer Honesty in Advertising
14 "Johnny Storm 11Re: Old farts
15 RINGOJACK@aol.com 11Parts Needed
16 "Lotus Mail Exchange" [L46NON-DELIVERY of: Re: Old farts
17 Xavier541@aol.com 8Window Channels
18 Adrian Redmond [channel666Re: Firewall feet rust damage, gearbox-outing
19 Adrian Redmond [channel631Re: Old farts
20 Dirk Tischer [dtischer@U42Re: Oil Preasure gauge/ other gauges
21 "Keith W. Cooper" [kwcoo41[not specified]
22 twakeman@scruznet.com (T32Re: Old farts
23 Iwan Vosloo [ivosloo@cs.11Electronic rust gadget
24 Paul Snoek [P.M.A.Snoek@10This is a test.
25 ScottH3601@aol.com 14LR sighting
26 Solihull@aol.com 24Distance piece installation
27 Solihull@aol.com 27Re: Jackall or HiLift?


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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.crane.navy.mil>
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:25:10 -500
Subject: 4 ply vs 6 ply

Regarding the $80 Coopers discussed recently (EricZ et al), are these 
a 4 or 6 ply tire?  Any comments on the real benefits of a 6 over a 4 
ply?  Yesterday, I saw at a tire shop that listed the load rating of a
"6 ply" as less than that of a "4 ply".  Was I misled?  Name a good all
season, decent offroad trail handler, quiet tire?  Brand name not 
important.  Mark

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:44:16 -0500
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: TGMBC II

The night we saw "The Gods Must Be Crazy II" at a theater back in 1989, we
encountered a drunken colleague on the street. The following conversation
ensued:

"We've been to a movie."

"What was the movie?"

"The Gods Must Be Crazy 2."

"I know that. What was the movie?"

I, too, missed the Land Rovers. The main character in the bush was a Jeep
if I recall.

Ned Heite
Camden, Delaware 19934
Icelandic wool catalogue:  http://www.dmv.com/~iceland
See our draft articles on: http://home.dmv.com/~eheite/index.html

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From: BUBSNOV20@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:36:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Subscription

I would like a Land Rover Subscription
e-mail address is:BUBSNOV20@Aol.Com
Thanks

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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 16:12:33 -0800
From: Christopher Schembri <chrissch@dream.vol.net.mt>
Subject: (no subject)

unsubscribe lro-owner

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From: "Ron Franklin" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 10:39:39 -0500
Subject: Re: 4 ply vs 6 ply

On  1 Feb 97 at 7:25, Mark Gehlhausen wrote:

> Regarding the $80 Coopers discussed recently (EricZ et al), are these 
> a 4 or 6 ply tire?  Any comments on the real benefits of a 6 over a 4 
> ply?  Yesterday, I saw at a tire shop that listed the load rating of a
> "6 ply" as less than that of a "4 ply".  Was I misled? 

Mine are 7.50R16 LT, 8 ply rated, but actual plies: 2 steel and 2 polyester in 
tread, and 2 polyester in sidewall.    Load range D.

Ronnie

Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:02:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Fwd: Camshaft for sale

Still for sale , Best offer.
---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj:    Camshaft for sale
Date:    97-01-29 11:43:07 EST
From:    AKBLACKLEY

Private owner (me) wished to sell new in-the-box OEM replacement cam
corresponding to gen. part # ETC 6849, for 9.35 to 1 detox carbed engines.I
bought this from Famous Four over a year ago and didnt use it in my recent
overhaul (used an Isky cam). So if someone wants an original type camshaft
for $125 (includes UPS in lower 48) drop me a line. About 1/3 rd cost
compared to gen. price. Quality? Cant say from appearances, but it cant be
worse than the original. Famous Four sell quality parts.  Cheers. Andy
Blackley

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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 01:26:11 +0800
From: Manny Garcia <mann@epic.net>
Subject: Re: Roof rack plans wanted - DAVID BROWN

At 03:00 PM 1/30/97 MST, you wrote:
snip
>Does anyone have plans for a roof rack that would fit on a RR (or a
>109)?
snip

David,

Has anybody replied ?  If so, please e-mail me roof rack plans for 109.
Might need this in the future.  Much appreciated and many thanks.

mann

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 09:35:42 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Old farts

>Old decrepit cars and owners (no gender bias here)
>You are all OLD FARTS this means that the average age on this list is around
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>time ).:-)
>Tony.

Tony,  I think you got it wrong.  The generation of us that are older than
our cars never could leave the status quo alone and feel its our right to
redefine anything that seems wrong to us.

We grew up with people in their fifties acting like their active life were
over.  Sitting around, watching the world go by, reminessing about the old
days and generally waiting to die.  Well it looks like my generation is
saying screw that, we're living life to the max.  Damn the candles on the
cake, crank up the rock & roll and slide the Triumph through the curves!
We are not trying to relive youth, we are redefining middle and senior age.

An interesting thing about humans is that parts of our personality tend to
get fixed at certain age levels. Tastes in music and cars tend to get fixed
in humans between mid-late teens to early twenties.  But they can and do
change over time as we get used to new things.  An instinctive human
survival trait is that we tend to feel more comfortable with familure
things around us and more alert and less comfortable/complacent with new
and different things around us.  Just ask a young child to try a new food
or go to a country where you do not know the language or customs to test
this one out.

In children, the survival instinct is to fear the different and welcome the
familure and safe.  Women tend to keep this instinct during adulthood.  It
provides us a better chance of our offspring maturing to have offspring and
maximizes the chance of our genes surviving.  Men on the otherhand, have
the instinct to seek the unknown during the period that their body is at
its sexual peak.  Its an instinct to spread seed as far as possible and
maximize the chances of his genes being perpetuated.  As the surviving men
mature, they tend to slide back to being more comfortable with the familure
and safe.  This increases the chances that they will be around to protect
any offspring that they sired, maximizing the chances that their genes will
survive.

Once again, older adults, embracing things that are long time familure,
safe and fun are not trying to recapture lost youth, they are doing what is
instictivly natural for their age group..embracing things that are fun and
safe.  Sitting around on a porch waiting to die is not fun nor healthy.

So as a young male, you have instictive needs for adventure, risks, and to
get the old farts out of your face.  If you survive to reach a mature state
you will probably be carefully restoring something like a Miata or BMW M3
while listening to late nineties music on an oldies station.  Its
instincts.  You are here because they worked.

Well, its time for Grandma to stop dealing with pesky kids and go out and
replace the fuel line to those old familure DCOEs while listening to the
tunes of the Rolling Stones.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 18:40:12 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Firewall feet rust damage, gearbox-outing

Series III - 109" (1976) Diesel - Gearbox-outing - UPDATE!

I have just pulled the floor and seatbox out, prior to removing gearbox
- all the bolts which I put in three years ago came out nicely - as I
had covered them in silicon mastic - just run a wire-brush in a drill
over the bolts, a quick spray with WD40 and - voila! out they came.

In the process the nearside sill fell off - looks like the mount at the
bottom of the firewall which also holds the sill in place, is rusted
away - the question is - can the "foot" of the firewall be replacved as
a seperate chunk? (This would also cure the almost obligatory rust-spot
on the outside, just below the door hinge).

And if any of the danish subscribers read this - can this foot be bought
in Denmark - any suggestions? Otherwise I'll just have to let the
workshop cobble something together.

If any gearbox-outing experienced lro's read this - pålease check my MO
for tomorrow - (to remove gearbox)

1.	Drain gearbox and transfer case oil
2.	Remove handbrake assy
3.	Remove speedometer cable assy
4.	Remove front and rear transmission from box(es)
5.	Remove gearbox mountings left and right (only 2?)
6.	Remove clutch piston assy without spilling fluid
7.	Seperate gearbox from clutchhousing
8.	Gently lift gearbox out of vehicle :-) (I am alone on this one)

(Gearbox is to be sent out of house for workshop rebuild)

then - whilst waiting for shiny reconditioned gearbox to appear...

check clutchplate(s) for wear
check clutchhousing for spurious oil
if oily or worn replace clutch plates at the same time

clean, service, paint all removed parts - seatbox, floorplates,
hand-brake assy.

clean, rustproof, paint chassis "midships" whilst gearbox is out

rebuild firewall feet and remount sill(s)

Is there anything important which I have missed?
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
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telephone (home)		    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data		    +45 76 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)		    +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)		    +45 40 50 22 66
mobile NMT			    +45 30 86 75 66
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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 18:43:40 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Old farts

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> >Old decrepit cars and owners (no gender bias here)
> >You are all OLD FARTS this means that the average age on this list is around
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 59 lines)]
> TeriAnn
> twakeman@scruznet.com
Well said TeriAnn!
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
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telephone (office)		    +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)		    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data		    +45 76 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)		    +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)		    +45 40 50 22 66
mobile NMT			    +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail			     channel6@post2.tele.dk
HoTMaiL (www.e-mail)	channel6denmark@hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 97 12:37:00 est
From: "Lotus Mail Exchange" <Lotus_Mail_Exchange_at_BLEMAIL@blwn0009.bausch.com>
Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: Re: Old farts

>Old decrepit cars and owners (no gender bias here)
>You are all OLD FARTS this means that the average age on this list is around
  [ truncated by lro-lite (was 10 lines)]
>time ).:-)
>Tony.

Tony,  I think you got it wrong.  The generation of us that are older than
our cars never could leave the status quo alone and feel its our right to
redefine anything that seems wrong to us.

We grew up with people in their fifties acting like their active life were
over.  Sitting around, watching the world go by, reminessing about the old
days and generally waiting to die.  Well it looks like my generation is
saying screw that, we're living life to the max.  Damn the candles on the
cake, crank up the rock & roll and slide the Triumph through the curves!
We are not trying to relive youth, we are redefining middle and senior age.

An interesting thing about humans is that parts of our personality tend to
get fixed at certain age levels. Tastes in music and cars tend to get fixed
in humans between mid-late teens to early twenties.  But they can and do
change over time as we get used to new things.  An instinctive human
survival trait is that we tend to feel more comfortable with familure
things around us and more alert and less comfortable/complacent with new
and different things around us.  Just ask a young child to try a new food
or go to a country where you do not know the language or customs to test
this one out.

In children, the survival instinct is to fear the different and welcome the
familure and safe.  Women tend to keep this instinct during adulthood.  It
provides us a better chance of our offspring maturing to have offspring and
maximizes the chance of our genes surviving.  Men on the otherhand, have
the instinct to seek the unknown during the period that their body is at
its sexual peak.  Its an instinct to spread seed as far as possible and
maximize the chances of his genes being perpetuated.  As the surviving men
mature, they tend to slide back to being more comfortable with the familure
and safe.  This increases the chances that they will be around to protect
any offspring that they sired, maximizing the chances that their genes will
survive.

Once again, older adults, embracing things that are long time familure,
safe and fun are not trying to recapture lost youth, they are doing what is
instictivly natural for their age group..embracing things that are fun and
safe.  Sitting around on a porch waiting to die is not fun nor healthy.

So as a young male, you have instictive needs for adventure, risks, and to
get the old farts out of your face.  If you survive to reach a mature state
you will probably be carefully restoring something like a Miata or BMW M3
while listening to late nineties music on an oldies station.  Its
instincts.  You are here because they worked.

Well, its time for Grandma to stop dealing with pesky kids and go out and
replace the fuel line to those old familure DCOEs while listening to the
tunes of the Rolling Stones.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 97 12:40:00 est
From: "Lotus Mail Exchange" <Lotus_Mail_Exchange_at_BLEMAIL@blwn0009.bausch.com>
Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: Re: Firewall feet rust damage,...

Subject:
Re: Firewall feet rust damage, gearbox-outing

Series III - 109" (1976) Diesel - Gearbox-outing - UPDATE!

I have just pulled the floor and seatbox out, prior to removing gearbox
- all the bolts which I put in three years ago came out nicely - as I
had covered them in silicon mastic - just run a wire-brush in a drill
over the bolts, a quick spray with WD40 and - voila! out they came.

In the process the nearside sill fell off - looks like the mount at the
bottom of the firewall which also holds the sill in place, is rusted
away - the question is - can the "foot" of the firewall be replacved as
a seperate chunk? (This would also cure the almost obligatory rust-spot
on the outside, just below the door hinge).

And if any of the danish subscribers read this - can this foot be bought
in Denmark - any suggestions? Otherwise I'll just have to let the
workshop cobble something together.

If any gearbox-outing experienced lro's read this - pålease check my MO
for tomorrow - (to remove gearbox)

1. Drain gearbox and transfer case oil
2. Remove handbrake assy
3. Remove speedometer cable assy
4. Remove front and rear transmission from box(es)
5. Remove gearbox mountings left and right (only 2?)
6. Remove clutch piston assy without spilling fluid
7. Seperate gearbox from clutchhousing
8. Gently lift gearbox out of vehicle :-) (I am alone on this one)

(Gearbox is to be sent out of house for workshop rebuild)
then - whilst waiting for shiny reconditioned gearbox to appear...

check clutchplate(s) for wear
check clutchhousing for spurious oil
if oily or worn replace clutch plates at the same time

clean, service, paint all removed parts - seatbox, floorplates,
hand-brake assy.

clean, rustproof, paint chassis "midships" whilst gearbox is out

rebuild firewall feet and remount sill(s)

Is there anything important which I have missed?
--
Adrian Redmond

---------------------------------------------------
CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
---------------------------------------------------
telephone (office)      +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)      +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data      +45 76 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)      +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)      +45 40 50 22 66
mobile NMT       +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail        channel6@post2.tele.dk
HoTMaiL (www.e-mail) channel6denmark@hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 11:12:58 -0800
From: Jeremy John Bartlett <Sbartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Non LR Hummer Honesty in Advertising

I just came across a 2 page Hummer ad. in the Economist.
Finally it contains a bit of honesty in advertising.  The
ad is basically a 2 page spread of the front of a white
Hummer heading down a downtown street.  The large text reads:

"You are Invincible
You are All-Powerful
You are Unstoppable    (I wonder what that says about brakes :))
You are on Your Way to the Grocery Store"

cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:56:37 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Johnny Storm:- International Racing car driver" <hiu06f@bangor.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Old farts

> you will probably be carefully restoring something like a Miata or BMW M3

Blimey, us young 'uns had better start saving for the electronic
diagnostic equipment!

Johnny Storm

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From: RINGOJACK@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 14:45:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Parts Needed

Does anyone have Disco parts like some Hella 500 driving lamps, a safari
rack, rear ladder, or front skid plate for sale???  If so contact me.
 Thanks.

Mark

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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 97 12:43:00 est
From: "Lotus Mail Exchange" <Lotus_Mail_Exchange_at_BLEMAIL@blwn0009.bausch.com>
Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: Re: Old farts

                           Delivery Failure Report
  
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                                Re: Old farts
                         could not be delivered to:
           Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com at Internet@CCMAIL
                                  because:
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                                Routing path:
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  To:       Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com at Internet@CCMAIL
  cc:
  From:     Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com at INTERNET@CCMAIL
  Date:     02-01-97 12:43:00 PM
  Subject:  Re: Old farts

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> >Old decrepit cars and owners (no gender bias here)
> >You are all OLD FARTS this means that the average age on this list is around
  [ truncated by lro-lite (was 59 lines)]
> TeriAnn
> twakeman@scruznet.com

Well said TeriAnn!
--
Adrian Redmond

---------------------------------------------------
CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
---------------------------------------------------
telephone (office)      +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)      +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data      +45 76 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)      +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)      +45 40 50 22 66
mobile NMT       +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail        channel6@post2.tele.dk
HoTMaiL (www.e-mail) channel6denmark@hotmail.com
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From: Xavier541@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 16:03:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Window Channels

Does anyone have some tips on installing front top and bottom  window
channels for a Series 3.  Thanks for any help.

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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 22:52:20 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Firewall feet rust damage, gearbox-outing

Series III - 109" (1976) Diesel - Gearbox-outing - UPDATE!

I have just pulled the floor and seatbox out, prior to removing gearbox
- all the bolts which I put in three years ago came out nicely - as I
had covered them in silicon mastic - just run a wire-brush in a drill
over the bolts, a quick spray with WD40 and - voila! out they came.

In the process the nearside sill fell off - looks like the mount at the
bottom of the firewall which also holds the sill in place, is rusted
away - the question is - can the "foot" of the firewall be replacved as
a seperate chunk? (This would also cure the almost obligatory rust-spot
on the outside, just below the door hinge).

And if any of the danish subscribers read this - can this foot be bought
in Denmark - any suggestions? Otherwise I'll just have to let the
workshop cobble something together.

If any gearbox-outing experienced lro's read this - pålease check my MO
for tomorrow - (to remove gearbox)

1. Drain gearbox and transfer case oil
2. Remove handbrake assy
3. Remove speedometer cable assy
4. Remove front and rear transmission from box(es)
5. Remove gearbox mountings left and right (only 2?)
6. Remove clutch piston assy without spilling fluid
7. Chock bell-housing to supportr motor when gearbox removed
8. Seperate gearbox from clutchhousing
9. Gently lift gearbox out of vehicle :-) (I am alone on this one)

(Gearbox is to be sent out of house for workshop rebuild)
then - whilst waiting for shiny reconditioned gearbox to appear...

check clutchplate(s) for wear
check clutchhousing for spurious oil
if oily or worn replace clutch plates at the same time

clean, service, paint all removed parts - seatbox, floorplates,
hand-brake assy.

clean, rustproof, paint chassis "midships" whilst gearbox is out

rebuild firewall feet and remount sill(s)

Is there anything important which I have missed?
-- 
Adrian Redmond

---------------------------------------------------
CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
---------------------------------------------------
telephone (office)		    +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)		    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data		    +45 76 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)		    +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)		    +45 40 50 22 66
mobile NMT			    +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail			     channel6@post2.tele.dk
HoTMaiL (www.e-mail)	channel6denmark@hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 22:55:17 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Old farts

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> >Old decrepit cars and owners (no gender bias here)
> >You are all OLD FARTS this means that the average age on this list is around
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 59 lines)]
> TeriAnn
> twakeman@scruznet.com

Well said TeriAnn! Just because we're driving the cars of our childhood
doesn't mean we're over the hill!

-- 
Adrian Redmond

---------------------------------------------------
CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
---------------------------------------------------
telephone (office)		    +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)		    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data		    +45 76 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)		    +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)		    +45 40 50 22 66
mobile NMT			    +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail			     channel6@post2.tele.dk
HoTMaiL (www.e-mail)	channel6denmark@hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 16:12:40 -0700 (MST)
From: Dirk Tischer <dtischer@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Oil Preasure gauge/ other gauges

Thanks so much for the help everybody.  The suggestion about the two inch
holes behind the clock housing really helped.  looks very professional - I
returned my mini gauge and got a two inch round/ three gauge kit.  Don't
know if I need another temp gauge but the ammeter will be nice to have. 
Especially if I ever get around to mounting a winch.

I ended up using the 1/2 inch pipe thread adapter that came with the kit. 
I ran it through a 1/2 in. 20 die and it shaved right down to fit.  The
pipe thread gets much larger then 1/2 in 20 so the seal is good.  Very
easy to do.  I threaded the line through some fuel line I had and taped it
to the wiring harness.  I used the hole in the firewall for the heater
controls for the oil line and I ran the temp gauge line through the
speedometer cable hole. 

Anyone ever mount an ammeter?  The main power line runs strait to the
starter then up to the accessories and alternator.  I've got some long
heavy gauge wire that came with my ARB bumper so I'll run that up to gauge
and back after the starter.  Any suggestions?

The extra temp gauge.. well it was pretty much free (three for the price
of two)  Does anyone have a good idea of a mounting location for the
sensor?  The wiring diagram lists a oil temp gauge on the 110.  I may just
try that but would like to be sure of the location.  Those temp gauges
have to be in the flow.  I don't think those extra bolt holes in the oil
pump would qualify but they might.  They seem to have there own short
channel and may therefore not get much circulation.  For that matter what
are the temp ranges for oil/ water? 

Anyway, is there any good reason to mount an extra water temp gauge?  or
an oil temp gauge for that matter.  

Again thanks for all the help.

Dirk Tischer
Tucson AZ
Yellow 94 D90
#1919, R380 trans, build date 6/94

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Subject: Paint Stripping Galvanized Surfaces
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 23:00:46 -0600
From: "Keith W. Cooper" <kwcooper@aristotle.net>

I am the third and most recent owner of a 1965 SIIA 88".  It was totally 
repainted about 8-10 years ago by the first owner (a farmer in Texas).  
The color is a dark grey metallic color, its not too bad, but its not 
even close to any of the original colors offered in '65.  I plan on using 
this Land Rover for real off-roading and general driving, but I also want 
to slowly restore it to as close to original specs. as possible.

I plan to eventually (maybe in a year or two) re-paint the rover with one 
of the original colors, but in the meantime I want to remove the paint 
off of the galvanized pieces that were painted over.  I like the look of 
the original galvanized metal trim pieces.

How would I go about stripping the paint from these?  Would I need to 
disconnect the pieces from the body and then re-attach when stripped?  If 
so, How in the world would you find those round-headed rivets?  Maybe I 
could just use the trusty old 4 1/2" hand-grinder with a wire attachment 
or abrasive attachment and work with the pieces right on the vehicle.

Any ideas or has anyone has the misfortune of having to uncover their 
galvanized surfaces too?

To see a picture of my "new" rover, visit our club's pic page at:

http://www.aristotle.net/~kwcooper/LRPics.html

Thanks,

Keith

Keith W. Cooper
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*            Dept. of Family and Community Medicine - UAMS              *
*                  "Arkansas Land Rover Association"                    *
*                        1965 Diesel SIIA 88"                           *
*                     '96 Land Rover Discovery SE                       *
*    Visit my page at - http://www.aristotle.net/~kwcooper/LRV.html     *
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:25:31 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Old farts

At  6:43 PM 2/1/97 -0800, Adrian Redmond wrote:

>Well said TeriAnn!
;--
>Adrian Redmond
;

Thanks.  I realized I forgot to edit the >s so no one on this list got the
original message.  I have copied it below

--------------
Old decrepit cars and owners (no gender bias here)
You are all OLD FARTS this means that the average age on this list is
around 900 ?what age I wonder?

all of you bar a couple of kids out here,(like me ) are older than
the cars you drive. I'm afraid most if not all are in your
second /third childhood trying to make out you are still sixteen
(these must be worring thoughts for the 16 yo kid who
signed up recently to see what he may be like in 30 years time ).:-)

Tony.
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TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 10:13:49 -0500
From: Iwan Vosloo <ivosloo@cs.up.ac.za>
Subject: Electronic rust gadget

I recently saw an advert for an electronic gadget that's supposed to
protect a car from rust.  Does anyone know of such a thing / have any
experience with it?  I would love to know if and how it works.

- Iwan Vosloo
( '75 SIII 88" Diesel SW )

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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 10:32:01 +0100 (MET)
From: Paul Snoek <P.M.A.Snoek@net.HCC.nl>
Subject: This is a test.

I recieve no E-mail from the list`s ????????

Paul,
the Nehterlands.
D90 V8 Auto. 1984

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From: ScottH3601@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 04:50:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: LR sighting

I am not sure if this has been mentioned before but there is a Discovery 
in a Pepcid AC ad. Two women pull up to the drive thru to order and there 
it is.

Scott Hulett
7? SIII 109 FFR

scotth3601@aol.com

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:07:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Distance piece installation

Alan Richer notes:
>...using a hollow pipe or the like, tap it into place with the old distance
piece
>between the new one and the pipe.

I like to heat 'em up in the oven, to about 350 or 400 degrees f. then
quickly carry them outside (0ne at a time) on an oven mit and slide it on.
Don't use sealer, never had one to leak.

Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!! 

               

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:08:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Jackall or HiLift?

Jackall are in Canada.
Highlifts are made by Bloomfield manufacturing in Indiana, who also make a
version with some stamped parts, like the foot, the 'pointy thing on top' and
one of the mechanism pieces, the latch, I think. The jack with the stamped
parts is cheaper, but rated at the same strength. It just costs less to
manufacture.
Mine is a Highlift, but only because that's what's available locally. One is
as good as the other, IMHO, and all parts, including the rebuild kits,
interchange. I'd stay clear of the third world imitations that places like
Harbor Freight carry, though. I just don't trust the metallurgy.
I replaced the stamped top clamp on mine with the cast piece, ordered
separately from Bloomfield, when I ordered the bracket. Now I want to order
and keep handy the five foot rail part, just in case.

Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!!  

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