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1 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 25Carbs & preferences.
2 twakeman@scruznet.com (T16Re: valves
3 lopezba@atnet.at 20Re: Disco hire in the UK
4 wleacock@pipeline.com 27Overdrive bearings
5 "wrecker" [neilwarburton43New member
6 gssesq@aol.com (George S6sunscribe
7 Adrian Redmond [channel639Overdrive
8 Michael McKeag [mmckeag@152Alaska & Yukon summer '97
9 Granville Pool [gpool@pa21Re: Alaska & Yukon summer '97
10 twakeman@scruznet.com (T26Re: Alaska & Yukon summer '97
11 Rick Grant [rgrant@cadvi37Re: Alaska & Yukon summer '97


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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:24:00 -0500
Subject: Carbs & preferences.

As I posted previously on Series IIA the stock Zenith is best, IMHO.
Most troublesome: The 1 bbl. Holley as explained before. Great on level
ground, but lousy off road. 
I have also owned some 44 diff. cars in the last 23 yrs. of driving, mostly
British, but also many BMW, carbed Alfa Romeo, Volvos etc.
The most troublesome of the lot were the dual  2 and single four barrel Solex
carbs on a 3.0 Bavaria and a 630 BMW grey import, respectively. Poor copies
of US carbs IMHO.
But then I actually like SU carbs - simple ,reliable when repaired correctly,
easy to fix. The Stromberg CD series, on paper a great device, in reality I
think they suck (no pun intended).
 The carbs I never, ever had to fiddle with were the stock Webers found on a
1502 BMW and on the Alfas I owned working for Uncle Sugar in Italy back in
the early 80s. I did have a 2 bbl. Weber on an MGB with the Pierce manifold,
Big power increase at the expense of fuel economy and cold weather
drivability. As others have said before if you use this manifold you'd better
find a way to create a "hot spot" below the carb. I also had to fiddle witht
he secondary linkage to correct a bad bog problem in mid range . Cheers, Andy
Blackley

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:23:07 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: valves

At  2:59 PM 1/4/97 +0000, kma367@gsilink.com wrote:

>I recently got .010 as the clearances in adjusting the valves of a
>2.25 SIII petrol.  Hot or cold.  So I assume the clearances are
>the same inlet and exhaust??
;
yep

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:57:21 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Disco hire in the UK

Chris R Whitehead wrote:

>My family and I are going to be in the UK in June 1997, and were hoping
>to rent a Discovery while we were there. Does anyone have any
>suggestions or recommendations?

I saw an ad by Discovery Hire in LROi. They also have Land Rovers and range 
Rovers. 
Tel 01344 885222
Fax 01344 885100

No own experience! Hope this helps
Peter Hirsch
Vienna, Austria
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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From: wleacock@pipeline.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:59:31 -0500
Subject: Overdrive bearings

>From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@crd.lotus.com
 
>I am going to do a bulk buy of these damned bearings for overdrives -
>there's got to be a cheaper source than RN...

  It is not necessary to go to superwinch for the bearings for the
overdrives, or the Rover store for that matter.
 The bearings, predominantly  needle rollers can be obtained from a decent
bearing shop.
 They are all METRIC, I suggest you obtain a copy of the catalogue from the
INA bearing company, all the bearings can be found in there with a bit of
comparison measuring, ( I know from first hand experience, I have done it,
unfortunately I lost the catalogue and the list I made during my move to the
US, ) it is a significantly cheaper method of getting the bearings than from
the end user, particularly if you can get some trade discount.
 If you buy the parts from Rover they will cost you more than thje overdrive
is worth.

The oil seals can also be acquired in a similar manner.

 Regards Bill Leacock  Limey in exile

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From: "wrecker" <neilwarburton@enterprise.net>
Subject: New member
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:19:42 -0000

Hi there. My name is Neil and I am the proud owner of a 1964 S11A 88".I
live in the Derby area in the East Midlands of the U.K.
It is only slightly modified!! i.e a 3,000 cc Ford V6 sits under the bonnet
raised suspension to allow for 7.50 tyres tripple windscreen wipers and one
piece screen.
I admit none of this work is mine as it was done by somebody else prior to
its purchased  by the person who owned her before me.I rescued her from the
middle of a nasty divorce row  in August 95 and she now sits quite happly
on the drive at my house.

Her reg number is AAO 333 B. If anybody in the group has any information on
her past life I would be intrested to hear from them.She carries the name
off the Vikking off road club on the truck cab that came with her(she
currently wears a saffari hard top with Alpine lights and tailgates.).

She is very interesting to drive and with 130 bhp on top supprises alot off
the little "boy racers" we get around here in their GTi's and XR's at the
lights.  
 At the momment I have the tasks that every Landy owner looks forward too
I.E. front propshaft u.js to replace and yet another set of rear hub seals
to replace(the second set in 3 months).

SORRY if i have gone on to long but I feel like the rest of us lucky people
who have this wonderful obsesion for these beasts and I hope to hear for
the rest of you soon .I look forward to reading about everyones experiences
and to  hopefully by able to help with problems (I have a friend on the
inside at Sollihull who designs engines for Land Rover and believe me you
won't believe wants comming soon I know and you are going to love it and no
i don't mean the CB40)

 I will go now I have wet your appietities.
See you on the road,lane,verge,hills well we do drive the best go anywhere
vehicle in the world.
P.S I am new to this web buissness so if  this doesn't send right please
reply and tell me. 
Yours Neil Warburton a.k.a Wrecker (don't ask!)
neilwarburton@enterprise.net

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Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 17:37:14
From: gssesq@aol.com (George S. Szydlowski)
Subject: sunscribe

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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 00:15:53 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Overdrive

There's been mention of overdrive here a few times recently - like most
things which one doesn't have, or hasn't ever tried, it's still a
mystery subject to me! So can anyone help with the following questions -

What is the principle of overdrive, and how does it work, what are the
pros and cons?

Can it be retrofitted to a series III diesel? How? Is it a LR original
upgrade (!) or an aftermarket afterthought?

Will it improve (decrease) rpm and engine/transmission noise on motorway
driving, save on fuel, and does it save wear on transmission/motor?

How is it selcected/deselected - I seem to remember reading about
electrical selection, but I read something here the other day about an
extra "gear-stick" ? Are there various options available? Does anyone
have any good/bad recommendations.

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Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 16:02:34 -0800
From: Michael McKeag <mmckeag@teleport.com>
Subject: Alaska & Yukon summer '97

I have a sabbatical coming up this summer. After toying with several
options, I've decided to spend the three months getting acquainted with
Alaska and the Yukon. I'll probably follow much the same routine as my
last sabbatical, load my camping gear and cameras in the truck and head
out with a list of target destinations, but work out the details as I
go, most of the time traveling alone. Last time (March-May, 1991), I
roamed the Southwest (Nevada, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, West Texas,
etc.). This time, I'm going north.

I like the freedom of traveling alone, but it does impose some
limitations. Photography is a solitary activity. The schedule and pace
kept by one preoccupied with photography can drive a non-photographer
nuts. I don't have to negotiate compromises or drive anyone nuts,
traveling alone. But I do have to be more cautious and conservative too.
A party of two or more vehicles enjoys, in addition to the pleasure of
each other's company, greater freedom in choosing routes and
destinations. So, I'm looking for other LRO's with some free time
between June and September interested in exploring some portions of
Alaska or the Yukon with me. I don't expect anyone else to have three
months worth of free time, a couple weeks is more likely.

Clinton Coates was planning a trip to the Yukon this summer, but his
wife is now expecting (congratulations Mr. & Mrs. Coates!) and he has
had to drop that plan for now. Is there anyone on the list formerly
considering joining Clinton's trip still interested in putting together
a substitute adventure?

I've never visited either Alaska or the Yukon. I'm reading books,
studying maps, and talking to people who have spent time up there. Here
are a few routes and destinations I'm attracted to:

Dempster Highway: A gravel road heading north from the Klondike River a
few miles east of Dawson, crossing the Ogilvie Mountains, descending
into the Peel River drainage, crossing the Artic Circle near Eagle
Plains, crossing the Richardson Mountains, turning east and descending
to cross the Arctic Red River and Mackenzie River near their confluence,
then north, ending at Inuvik on the Mackenzie Delta. Klondike Highway
junction to Inuvik, 454 miles. I talked to a couple who made the drive
last July and saw some of their photographs. They said the route rated
by some as one of the ten most scenic drives in the world. Judging from
their photographs, I'm ready to believe it. They chartered a flight from
Inuvik north to Richards Island on the Arctic Ocean to see muskox.

Canol Road: Heads northeast from Ross River on the Pelly River, ending
at Mac Millian Pass in the Selwyn Mountains. The route actually
continues northeast from the pass, ending at Norman Wells on the
Mackenzie River. On my map, the road from Ross River to Mac Millian Pass
is marked "4x4 only". That's tantalizing. The route continuing from Mac
Millian Pass to Norman Wells is marked "rough trail only, no vehicle
beyond the pass." Is a Land Rover a vehicle? Ross River to Mac Millian
Pass, is about 125 miles as the crow flies. No doubt its considerably
longer as the Rover crawls.

Dalton Highway: You can figure this one is on my list, 480 miles, from
Fairbanks, north to Deadhorse on the North Slope. The Dalton Highway
proper starts at its junction with the Elliott Highway, about 75
northwest of Fairbanks, continues northwest, crossing the Yukon River,
then bends north, crosses the Arctic Circle and ascends into the Brooks
Range, crossing at Atigun Pass, then descending the North Slope, ending
at Deadhorse. Actually, the road continues to Prudhoe Bay, but public
access stops at Deadhorse, except by joining one of the tours conducted
by the oil consortium. The scenery along the route sounds spectacular.
The road is notorious for the toll it takes on tires, headlights and
windshields. I talked to one couple recently who drove their new Disco
up the Alaska Highway to Fairbanks last summer. They considered driving
the Dalton, but decided against making the trip in a lone vehicle after
hearing stories about the trucker's attitude toward tourists. Up until
December of 1994, most of the road was closed to the public. The
truckers had the Haul Road to themselves. An off-the-shelf Disco might
be confused with a tourist vehicle, but what about a couple Landies in
full expedition regalia?

Richardson, George Parks Highway Loop: The big loop, taken clockwise
from Fairbanks, would head southeast up the Tanana River on the Alaska
Highway to Delta Junction, then south on the Richardson Highway,
crossing the Alaska Range, continuing south, crossing the Chugach
Mountains, descending to Valdez, taking the ferry from Valdez to Seward,
following the Seward Highway north to Anchorage, continuing north to
Palmer, then following the George Parks Highway north to cross the
Alaska Range at McKinley Park, then back to Fairbanks. The Glenn Highway
from Glenallen to Palmer offers a shorter loop, or the section from
Gakona Junction to Tok can be tacked on for a longer loop. The Denali
Highway from Paxton to Cantwell makes for an even shorter loop. Then
again, the whole network could be woven together into a convoluted
Mobius figure eight that goes on forever.

If you are tempted by any of this (or any of the numerous alternatives I
haven't mentioned), let me know. I'm also eager to hear from any of you
with actual first-hand experience in the area. 

My D90 wagon is still pretty much factory-stock-innocent at this point.
I have some work to do and some $$ to spend over the next few months
preparing it for next summer, with the emphasis on safety, reliability
and comfort over long distances in remote places, rather than gonzo
off-road prowess. Any suggestions? My list right now includes an
expedition rack, a second spare tire (mounted on the bonnet or stowed up
on the rack?), at least 4 5-gal fuel cans (NATO style rather than US?),
replacing the 4 jump seats with custom-made aluminum storage boxes (with
lockable, hinged lids) that mount in place of the rear seats, a
custom-made raised platform spanning the space between the rear wheel
wells, mounted level with the top of the cubby, strong enough to support
my weight so I can stow gear underneath and sleep on the platform when
the weather or bears make sleeping in the truck preferable to sleeping
in my tent (I'm 6'-1", but I've tested the fit and as long as I leave
the gearshift in 1st or 5th I have plenty of room, with my head near the
rear door and my legs between the front seats, calves resting on the
cubby top). 

I've toyed with various schemes for keeping the mosquitoes out, but I'm
impressed with how fast they fill up the truck the moment you open a
door or window. The interior is such an inviting refuge from the breezes
outside. I've had much better success keeping mosquitoes (most of them
anyway) out of the tent. In the truck, I may just have to sleep with my
head in a net.

Flying stones are a more significant consideration.  I plan to attach
wire mesh to the bull bar to protect the headlights. As for the
windshield, the roll cage makes a nice frame across which protective
mesh could be stretched. Anyone tried this? Any suggestions for mesh
specs? Wire mesh over headlights or windshield is probably not street
legal in some jurisdictions, so I'd want it to be easily removed, stored
and remounted. I assume on roads like the Dempster or the Dalton,
pragmatism rules. Oh yes, I plan add rear mud flaps as a courtesy. I've
already put a rock chip in the windshield of my father's Buick as he
followed me off a gravel road, back onto the highway in the Columbia
River Gorge a couple months ago. Any point to adding diff-guards and
skid plates at this stage of the game? Not as protection from gonzo
off-road boulder bangs, but just to save wear and tear on vital parts
from the continuous hail of flying stones over hundreds of miles of
gravel roads.

The recent thread on mendo-recce about spare parts has been informative.
I've been taking notes. Any additional suggestions specific to the D90,
I'm all ears. By the way, so far, my D90 has proven to be very reliable.
Its within 1000 miles of the 22,500 service and the only problem of
note, and it was pretty minor, was a loose Panard rod bushing that
needed to be re-torqued after several days banging around on cowpaths in
southeastern Oregon last summer. Other than that, keep filling that
dinky fuel tank with premium every couple hundred miles, lube, oil and
filter every 3000, and a loving hand (and foot) at the controls. Hope it
keeps up like that. We have places to go, things to see.

Mike
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Michael McKeag          Webmaster - Native Plant Society of Oregon
Portland, OR USA        http://www.teleport.com/nonprofit/npso/  
mmckeag@teleport.com    LRO - 1995 D90SW #143, alpine white

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Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 17:36:59 -0800
From: Granville Pool <gpool@pacific.net>
Subject: Re: Alaska & Yukon summer '97

Michael,

I enjoyed what I've read of your posting and will certainly read the 
rest.  I'll learn a lot that I want to know, as I want to do some of 
this one of these days.  Whatever you do, I expect that you will have a 
great trip.  I'll look forward to hearing about it afterward.

I was one who was contemplating Clinton's trip but don't think I'll be 
able to go up there this year.  If I do any big trip this year, it'll 
probably be to Australia and that's very iffy too, so far.

If you haven't read it yet, do read John McPhee's "Into the Country."

Cheers,

Granny

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 17:50:19 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Alaska & Yukon summer '97

At  4:02 PM 1/4/97 -0800, Michael McKeag wrote:
>I have a sabbatical coming up this summer. After toying with several
>options, I've decided to spend the three months getting acquainted with
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>roamed the Southwest (Nevada, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, West Texas,
>etc.). This time, I'm going north.

Michael,

Too bad we are five years out of sync.  I too have a sabbatical coming up
in '97 but am planning to spend it mostly hanging out in the four corners
region with my view camera and 109.  Its been a couple of years since I
spent a week there so I want to go back and have another go at some slot
canyons (got some good images the first time, Anasazi ruins and Monument
valley.  I also want a chance to hit places like Zion, Bryce and Arches.
Who knows, five years from now, I may follow your footsteps again to
Alaska.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 21:31:23 -0700
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: Alaska & Yukon summer '97

At 04:02 PM 04/01/97 -0800, Michael McKeag, wrote

>I have a sabbatical coming up this summer. After toying with several
>options, I've decided to spend the three months getting acquainted with
>Alaska and the Yukon.

97 is a good choice considering that 98 is the 100th birthday of the gold
rush and many tonnes of tourists are expected.  Even in off years the Alaska
Highway can be a trial because of all the RV's and Campers.

There's no way that either myself or my SII could make it this summer
otherwise I'd love to tag along, but I'd love to!

Having said that, I've done the highway from Fort St John to Whitehorse,
Dawson, and also Inuvik, in summer and winter several times in; ordinary
vehicles, in buses, but never in a LR.   I've also flown that same route as
pilot in single engine Cessnas and Beavers but that was 20 years ago.

My best advice is just be ready for the unexpected, don't be shy to ask for
help, and just resign yourself to the inevitable bug bites and windscreen
cracks.  

Unless you act like a complete idiot, northerners will go out of their way
to help you.

			Rick Grant

			1959, SII   "VORIZO"  

rgrant@cadvision.com	
www.cadvision.com/rgrant
Cobra Media Communications.  Calgary, Canada

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