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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:49:17 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: 1960 107"

Steve Paustian wrote:

>>the battle to justify its purchase.  I turn on "CarTalk" and like a

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>>Marlin Perkins and "Wild Kingdom".  For me it was "The Gods Must Be
>>Crazy".  How can you not like that vehicle?  Too long already.  M

>He's going to have a hard time finding a 107 made in 1964.  I think the
>last 107 was made in '56 or so wasn't it?  Maybe East Coast Rovers could
>help :~)

Not exactly East Coast, but:
Last 107" pick up was made in 1956, followed by Series 1 109" pick up. Last 
107" Station Wagon was made in 1958, followed by Series II 109" S/W.
Hope everybody has good holidays
Peter Hirsch
Vienna, Austria
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:04:16 -500
Subject: '63/64 107

Regarding the '63/64 107 Land-Rover, as mentioned on "Car Talk"
last Saturday, I just wrote what I heard.   Remember, these were the
words of the totally disinterested wife, so you gotta' give or take a
couple of inches and a few years.  

I was too young to be aware of Land-Rovers in the days of "Wild 
Kingdom" and Marlin Perkins.  Sounds like I missed a good show!
Mark

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From: wleacock@pipeline.com
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:15:44 GMT
Subject: bearings
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

If this has worked there  should follow a list of bearings used on series
land rovers.
I make no warranties as to the accuracy of my word processing, this list
will however be useful as a GUIDE only
 If there are any specific questions please E mail me direct and I will
check the original  book from which I plaguerised  it.

 Merry Christmas and  a happy New year, Bon Noele, Froehe Wiennachten and
happy Hogmanay etc

 Regards   Bill Leacock  Limey in exile

--=====================_851452597==_

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:49:02 -0500
Subject: Merry X-mas

Sorry I've been out of the loop lately guys, but the end of the year is
always a killer for me. I've learned so much from all of you this year and I
wanted to say thanks.
So, erm...Thanks.
Alex Maiolo
69 IIa
89 Rangie

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:40:32 -0600
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Aluminum Workhorse

Hi All,
 I got my Aluminum Workhorse & love it.  However I have changed email
addresses & the wrong one was printed.  
caredoctor@gnn.com => car4doc@concentric.net

 Can this be updated Please 

Great AW guys!

Regards, Rob Davis_chicago

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:40:32 -0600
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Aluminum Workhorse

Hi All,
 I got my Aluminum Workhorse & love it.  However I have changed email
addresses & the wrong one was printed.  
caredoctor@gnn.com => car4doc@concentric.net

 Can this be updated Please 

Great AW guys!

Regards, Rob Davis_chicago

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:23:54 -0800 (PST)
From: scooper@scooper.seanet.com (John & Sandy Cooper)
Subject: Wheel prep

Does anyone have any suggestions for preparing or stripping steel wheels.
The sand-blasting shop here wants 80.00 $ an hour to do the job.  Will a
good old wire brush and elbow grease be just as effective?  Also, what type
primer and paint should I use?  Thought about galvanizing but I think the
seal might be compromised by the zinc "blobs".
Thanks, John Cooper 11a

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:24:45 -0500
Subject: Re: bearings

Bill,

Could you resend - it didn't work.

Thanks!

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:51:25 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Best of the Season to All

Hello the List,
        Happy Holidays and the Best of the Season to All!!!

                        Steve, Lorri, Colter, and Conner

Steve Paustian
Flatland Rover Society
D90 SW

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:48:03 -0500
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Wheel prep

John said
|Does anyone have any suggestions for preparing or stripping steel wheels.
|The sand-blasting shop here wants 80.00 $ an hour to do the job.  Will a
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|seal might be compromised by the zinc "blobs".
|Thanks, John Cooper 11a

At first I ran into the same thing ($80-100) to fire up the blaster.  Then
one of the workers told me to look for a place that does maintenance and
tire work for big trucks (semi's, 18 wheelers, dump truck).  Sure enough,  I
called up and told them I had 6 rims to blast, prime and paint.  They said
they would do the work and mount my tires for $135 TOTAL.  It wasn't till I
showed up that they figured out that it was for a little truck.  Only one
hitch at the place I went,  the rims must be 16in or larger (mine were,
whooo).  They said they couldn't charge much more than that 'cause when your
doing 18 or more it would be too expensive.  Hope this helps

Mike Johnson  N7WBO

74 SIII 88 (Chester)  176k daily driver
73 SIII 88 (Jezebel)  everyone's gettin a piece

http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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From: Leland J Roys <roys@hpkel13.cup.hp.com>
Subject: Def-90 Heat Fan Intake
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 11:04:48 PST

Hello! Just got back from taking the Defender into the worst winter snow storm
since 1982. I got stuck up in Lake Tahoe, in the California Sierra mountains
for 3 days in the blizzard. During the wait going up highway 50, I got out 
and had a good talk with the driver of a discovery waiting behind me.

On the trip, I noticed what I consider a "major" flaw in the design of the
heater air intake on my defender. It seems that the air intake for the
heater blower fan is a black platic vent sticking straight up on the passenger
side of the engine. 

Well, as you can imagine, snow quickly filled the vent and clogged it, Ice and
snow filled it up inside completely shutting off the airflow and thus no heat
in the truck. The windows quickly fogged up and I had to open all the windows
with 15 degree outside tempetured to de-fogg.

Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Can I re-direct the vent to pull
air from the engine compartment?

Leland Roys
roys@cup.hp.com
1994 Defender-90

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 11:18:04 -0800
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Wheel prep

John & Sandy Cooper wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions for preparing or stripping steel wheels.
> The sand-blasting shop here wants 80.00 $ an hour to do the job.  Will a
> good old wire brush and elbow grease be just as effective?  

No it won't.  Where are you located?  There's a fellow in the Bay Area of Calif.
that will do rims for $15 a piece.

cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:03:33 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Heater

Greg Moore wrote:
> David Place wrote:
> > > I've got one I could measure. Let me know what dimensions you need.
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> Cheers, Greg
> gmoore@island.net

Thanks.  I would love to have the tracing.  I might try to have him do it 
this spring as a project.  We have access to all the mills and things 
needed to do a first rate job.  The thickness is critical so thanks for 
letting me know.  I will see if he can buy something already made that 
thick or if we will have to build up something.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:10:45 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Aluminum Workhorse

Michael Carradine wrote:
> At 07:24 PM 12/23/96 -0800, David Place wrote:
> :> At 04:38 PM 12/23/96, Erik van Dyck <EvanD103@aol.com> wrote:
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> -Michael Carradine
>  VP, LROA

Thanks Mike.  I always enjoyed it when I got it.  I always thought that 
since this is a hobby and from time to time people go in and out of 
things that is what had happened.  Wasn't upset or anything only missed 
what I thought was a great bit of reading.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:06:45 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Visors

Alexander P. Grice wrote:
> David writes:
> >is it possible to get a pattern for a visor?
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>       |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
>       *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

Thanks for the info Sandy.  I can well understand not being able to send 
out a pattern.  Maybe one day the club might want to make a buck printing 
the pattern for builders like me.  Has anyone ordered from Canada and if 
so what was the shipping like for cost and did it arrive looking like a 
visor or a pretzel:-)  Dave Ve4PN

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:28:26 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Wheel prep

Mike Johnson wrote:
> John said
> |Does anyone have any suggestions for preparing or stripping steel wheels.
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> 73 SIII 88 (Jezebel)  everyone's gettin a piece
> http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

I used a place that does grave markers and they charged $10/wheel.  Dave 
VE4PN

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:32:12 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Heater

David Place wrote:
> Greg Moore wrote:
> > David Place wrote:
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> needed to do a first rate job.  The thickness is critical so thanks for
> letting me know.  I will see if he can buy something already made that
> thick or if we will have to build up something.  Dave VE4PN

Sorry Greg.  I wiped out your message or at least the Major cut it so I 
lost the thickness.  Was it 2 9/16ths.  Thanks Dave VE4PN

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:25:45 -0800
From: jouster@rocket.com (John Ousterhout)
Subject: My rerouted kodiak intake

Teriann, et al:
My fender inlet has been disconnected and the hole covered for several years 
now. A large hole in the footwell on the right hand side admits air into the 
heater core via a "D"-shaped box. The box consists of two plywood pieces, 
one with a hole fitting the heater core intake. A piece of sheet aluminmum 
is bent over the curved edges and is held to the footwell with screws. The 
increased temperature in very cold weather is noticable and, I'd say, worth 
the effort. The "snorkle" actually connects to this box, not the aircleaner, 
to admit some fresh air. The air at 6feet is more pleasant to breath than at 
fender level, especially in traffic. Snorkles look appropriate in Land 
Rovers, anyway.
  The down-side is increased humidity, as already mentioned, but it is 
capable of melting ice on the glass at 55mph.

  Regarding Delco wiring; I originally connected the sense terminal to the 
stud, which lead to instability. The charge needle would cycle between 0 and 
a few + amps charge with a period of about 0.5 second. Amplitude would 
increase with connected load. Connecting the sense directly to the battery 
or the + lead on the ammeter stopped the instability.

Cheers, JohnO

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:23:44 -0500
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@BORG.COM>
Subject: Re: Wheel prep

>I used a place that does grave markers and they charged $10/wheel.  Dave 
>VE4PN

Thats not a bad price,  but you still need them primed and painted.
Mike Johnson  N7WBO
74 SIII 88 (Chester)  176k daily driver
73 SIII 88 (Jezebel)  everyone's gettin a piece
http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: NAS 1997 D90SW
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:10:41 -0500

Drove my first production D90 SW yesterday. Previously I had driven only =
the well-thrashed LRNA prototype after the Boston auto show.

Reaction? Very, very smooth! Ample power. Stomping produces a wonderful =
rush of power at kickdown along with a reasonably throaty growl. Pretty =
decent exhaust burble. The bullies won't kick sand in your face at the =
stop light. At least not from any other SUV...

The console is very well presented although not nearly as capacious as =
the old one. The old one could house a ton. This one about a quarter ton =
- even less with the CD player installed. Cupholders for the rear seat =
passengers!!

The instruments are a vast improvement. The dash lights are visible now =
EVEN ON LOW! Switch to bright and they really are! Smooth speedo. Glass =
fronts on all gauges mean no more spider scratches.

One thing we noticed at Metro West. Installation of ARB bumper produces =
interference with hardware between it and the tranny oil cooler!! Wow! =
Always something! If you are planning same, you had better check with =
your dealer before you plunk down cash for ARB...

Other than those things, pretty much same as 1995 D90SW. The 4.0L motor =
really shines with its coil pack ignition system and serpentine belt. =
The electronics are ensconced in a rather unusual plastic housing =
alongside the RH inner wing.

Metro West has about 8 of them currently on the ground being prepped and =
equipped with various stuff - from ARB/WARN, ARB/SUPERWINCH, and bone =
stock. We will cover the vehicle in the Nov/Dec issue of the Rover =
Reference.

Cheers
Jim

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:08:59 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Grace and Rothschild

Larry Smith wrote:

>Over the weekend, I came across the Grace and rothchild Advertising tape
>of "Land Rover - 50 Years"

I had one of their flaks ring me up a year or so ago.  For those who don't 
recognize G&R, they are Rover's ad agency in the US.  Well this guy has some 
questions about the club and our event and somehow I mentioned the Camel Trophy.

"Camel Trophy?  What's that?"

Sheesh.  I went on to explain in detail the idea, etc, and finished with 
"Jeep may be famous, Land Rover is legendary."

"Say, that's pretty good."

After a bit more conversation I finish up by calling it 'the world's most 
versatile vehicle' and "the best four by four by far."

"That's even better.  Could we use that in our advertising?

"Well, *sure*.  Just give me the royalties."

It seems to me that you *should* know just a little about the product you're 
trying to sell.  Cheers and Merry Christmas to ya' all!

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: Deezilbob@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:34:18 -0500
Subject: Season's Greetings

I also have an external sun visor from R.O.A.V. and it is made and fits quite
well. In fact, the original came off a Land-Rover that was down at Harrell
Motors in Waynesville, N.C., that I found years ago. Anyway, I would like to
wish all of you a most happy holiday and look forward to meeting more of you
via the digest and at the different meets next year. All of you diesel owners
remember that synthetic oil, 2 BIG  twelve volt batteries wired in parallel
and a rag with gas held over your air intake manifold will make your
wintertime start-ups a much more pleasant experience...D.B.

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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 02:05:47 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Wheel prep

John & Sandy Cooper wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions for preparing or stripping steel wheels.
> The sand-blasting shop here wants 80.00 $ an hour to do the job.  Will a
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> seal might be compromised by the zinc "blobs".
> Thanks, John Cooper 11a
Don't do it by hand!!!! far to much like hard work and the result is
poor as you can't get into the cracks. I don't know the going rate for
sand-blasting in the US, but if you go to a blaster with a high capacity
rig, then even 80 USD per hour will be cheap if he can do them in 30
minutes.

Galvanizing, or metallizing ( the blobs) is well worth it, I have
metallized mine, and the paint holds well on the outside, and the tyre
holds well on the inside.

The thing to bear in mind with professional blasting and letalizing is -
do it once - do it properly, and you will never have to do it again.
Scrimp or cut-corners, and it may be an annual job.
Good luck, happy christmas.
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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From: "Peter & Julie Rosvall" <rosvall@mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:01:38 +0000
Subject:  Koenig Winch

To all:

Could anyone forward any information that they may have regarding the
winch  that was on my rover when I purchased it? It's identified:
Koenig Iron Works, Model 30.

Thanks,

Peter Rosvall
rosvall@nbnet.nb.ca

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:58:54 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Def-90 Heat Fan Intake

At 11:04 AM 12/24/96 -0800, Leland J Roys wrote:

>Hello! Just got back from taking the Defender into the worst winter snow storm
>since 1982. I got stuck up in Lake Tahoe, in the California Sierra mountains
;for 3 days in the blizzard. During the wait going up highway 50, I got out
>and had a good talk with the driver of a discovery waiting behind me.
;
>On the trip, I noticed what I consider a "major" flaw in the design of the
>heater air intake on my defender. It seems that the air intake for the
;heater blower fan is a black platic vent sticking straight up on the passenger
>side of the engine.
;
>Well, as you can imagine, snow quickly filled the vent and clogged it, Ice and
;snow filled it up inside completely shutting off the airflow and thus no heat
>in the truck. The windows quickly fogged up and I had to open all the windows
;with 15 degree outside tempetured to de-fogg.
;
>Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Can I re-direct the vent to pull
>air from the engine compartment?
;
 The solution is easy.  Just install series diamond plate wing protectors,
cut a 4 inch hole in the side of your wing where all series owners with
Kodiak heaters know the hole belongs and pipe it with some flex hose.

Just pretend you have a series Land Rover with a kodiak heater and someone
installed the wrong wing.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:56:33 -0500
Subject: Rovering in Boston this week

I find myself in Boston visiting with Flo's family this week ,sans Rover
alas, and I wondered if there was anything going on Roverwise this week in
Boston.
Rgds Quintin Aspin

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 23:44:08 -0800
From: jrr007@zim.com (John Rando)
Subject: cancel all e-mail

Sirs,
Please cancel all e-mail going to JRR007@zim.com as I can't handle all
of this mail.
This is my second attempt to cancel my e-mail
thank you
JRR007@zim.com

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