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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:02:59 -500
Subject: SolexThrottleBush 

LR Lovers,

For a tutorial on Solex throttle shaft bushing, written by Rob 
Hooper, which I have yet to try, but looks the ticket, goto:  

http://www.off-road.com/...Solex_throttle_bush.html

Mark

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 08:24:54 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: SolexThrottleBush 

     
For a tutorial on Solex throttle shaft bushing, written by Rob 
Hooper, which I have yet to try, but looks the ticket, goto:  
     
http://www.off-road.com/...Solex_throttle_bush.html
     
 Hi Mark

My Netscape isn't functioning today...can you copy the text of this tutorial and
email it to me as a regular .txt file? Ive been wondering what to do with the 
dozen or so used solexes I have laying about...they all have worn throttle 
shafts.

thanks!

Dave B. 

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From: "John J. Tackley" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:31:32 -500
Subject: Worn Carb. bushing

Any easy fix for a worn throttle shaft bushing on an original Solex ?

OK,OK, mea culpa.  Any hard fix, then ?

I also have the 'peculiar idle setting syndrome' (PISS) as well as fuel leaking 
around the shaft whilst the fuel line is pressurized (cumbustible PISS).

*** John J. Tackley, Richmond, VA ***
* '74 SIII 88" "Gen. P. Lee" *
* '81 300SD *
* '89 FLHS "OINK" (That'l do, pig) *

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:33:27 -0500
Subject: Re: AT in Series LR's

In a message dated 96-12-13 04:18:54 EST, you write:

<< > I am no purist when it comes to modifications, I just can't see the
 > point, whichg I am sure though exists, for those of you with other
 > demands in their daily driving - but please - why? I am interested!
 To please the American market? Weren't there some plans to do away with
 manual transmissions in US Landies?
 Next they'll have those "shrink-wrap" automatic seatbelts - even more
 pointless in my opinion. >>

Hey man, isn't pleasing the marketplace the whole point of business? : )

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Subject: Billing 97
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 14:28:04 -0000
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

Billing 97 - bookings being taken!

July 17th-20th 1997 at Billing Aquadrome, Northampton, UK.

54 quid for site entry and camping from thursday 17th and use of off-road 
course (49 quid for LROI subscribers)

LRO (Billing 97), Anglian House, Chapel Lane, Botesdale, Diss, Norfolk 
IP22 1DT UK

(I am not connected with them in any way I just thought you might like to 
know)

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:48:52 -0500
From: Kevin Girling <lroshop@idirect.com>

Question, why is it cheaper to buy LRO from a news agent
here in the states than to have a subscription? 

Some time ago we reduced the price from GBP77 to GBP57.  Even with the
recent increase to GBP59 you are still only looking at about US$92.  Ordered
from us at 1-888-LRO-SHOP 13 issues means a price, delivered to your door,
of just over US$7 per issue.  You also get it about 3 weeks ahead of the
newsstands.

You can improve on that by ordering online at http://web.idirect.com/~lroshop/
and get 16 issues for the price of 13 in the first year, about US$5.75 per
issue.

Hope this clarifies things.

Kind regards.

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Subject: Re: Magazines/subscriptions (rant)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 14:59:38 -0000
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

Many UK publishers do charge more for a subscription than it would cost 
to by individual issues from your newsvendor. I dont understand the logic 
of this, the price we pay to the vendor includes his cut/commission so if 
the publisher cuts this stage out of the sale they are getting more money 
anyway on top of what they charge for the delivery. Many also charge a 
reduced rate for the first year then bump the price for susequent years 
hoping you will pay without noticing the difference (one previous 
subscription of mine for a cycling mag jumped from 17 quid annually to 39 
quid?)

Typical British business sense - screw the customer NOW, you may not get 
another chance!

Here endeth todays sermon

__________________________________

Simon Ward-Hastelow, Orpington, Kent, UK

"DOROTHY"  -  1985, 110, V8, CSW (24mpg)
__________________________________

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: AT in Series LR's
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 15:11:09 GMT

> In a message dated 96-12-13 04:18:54 EST, you write:
> << > I am no purist when it comes to modifications, I just can't see the
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>  pointless in my opinion. >>
> Hey man, isn't pleasing the marketplace the whole point of business? : )

yes and no!  :-)

Selling guns and nukes is pleasing the marketplace, but...

No, more seriously, there are two kinds of "marketplace" in this context.
There's the rugged 4x4 vehicle that we know and love - the reason why so many
armies have purchased Land Rovers, then there's the consumer RAV4 sort of
thing...  (guess who's just read a review of the CB40/Highlander?)
Consumers want RAV4s, but *why*?

Richard (1 too many in his liquid lunch)

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:58:14 -0500
From: Kevin Girling <lroshop@idirect.com>

 Many also charge a 
reduced rate for the first year then bump the price for susequent years 
hoping you will pay without noticing the difference (one previous 
subscription of mine for a cycling mag jumped from 17 quid annually to 39 
quid?)

I am happy to report that LROI actually reduces in price in year 2 and beyond.

Regards LRO Shop.

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 11:03:50 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: 

     Has ANYBODY bought anything from Europarts? I've gotten some prices 
     from them that sound pretty good.
     
     Just curious.
     
     Dave B.

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:15:31 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: AT in Series LR's

No, more seriously, there are two kinds of "marketplace" in this context.
There's the rugged 4x4 vehicle that we know and love - the reason why so many
armies have purchased Land Rovers, then there's the consumer RAV4 sort of
>thing...  (guess who's just read a review of the CB40/Highlander?)
>Consumers want RAV4s, but *why*?

Ah yes,but you've forgotten the other,typically English marketplace,
Richard.Its the one where someone makes something that no-one in
their right mind will buy.So they get government to pass a law
so you will *have* to buy it.

Having driven a RAV4,I'm even more mystified than you.Local driving
instructor bought one to give lessons in.Good business move.All the
kids want to be seen in this awful aberration.But.He had a towbar
fitted.Reckoned he would tow his horsebox with it.Ses it has a rated
towing weight of 2.5 tons.Until the trailer takes over going downhill.
I spent a full two minutes looking for the Hi-Lo gear lever.Prat!
And its an awful thing to drive down a farm track.Oh,and he has to
take the spare wheel off to give lessons.Pupils cant see out the
back with it on........

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:15:31 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: AT in Land Rovers

        The ATs offered in late Land Rover products are easily the equal of
the manuals, if not better (in my not-so-humble opinion). Having seriously
four wheeled every Land Rover product from about '61-on, that's my story
and I'm sticking to it.
        The manuals offered in the later products need lower gearing for
serious work (either via axle ratios, a lower low range or lower tranny
gears) 43-1 doesn't cut it in many places, especially in the Series
vehicles with next to no power. The rule of thumb for extreme wheeling is
65-1 minimum.
        Looking at LR autos in detail, you will note their tall 2.48-1
mechanical first gear ratio and 29-1 crawl ratio and scoff. The 40-odd to
one firsts of the late manual LRs and the Series rigs looks good in
comparison. You forget the torque converter which is basically a variable
ratio first gear. At approximately 900-1200rpm, the torque converter ratio
in the late LRs is about 2-1, effectively multiplying the first gear ratio
by that amount. The 29-1 mechanical ratio becomes 58-1 and no stalling in
tricky situations.
        The downside, of course, is the relative lack of downhill braking.
The new ZF trannys are much better than average but not as good as a
manual. The converter only works for you with power applied so on a
downhill, you're essentially back to that 29-1 mechanical ratio - actually
not quite that even because the converter slips a bit.
        I timed a stick Disco and a auto Disco down the same 100 foot hill
using no brakes. There was an 8 second difference between them at the
bottom.
        Of course, that's what the brake pedal is for. Learning to modulate
the brake pedal is a classic auto driving technique. With standard late
model LR manuals, on extreme downhills, they aren't geared low enough to
adequately slow the vehicle either, so the driver must suppliment with the
foot brakes anyway.I have found the same to be true with the Series rigs,
though to a lesser extent.
        I've watched an auto D90 and a stick D90 on the same trail. The
stick is constantly stalling or having to go faster than is prudent to
avoid it. Stalling and having to restart (like on the Launching Pad in
Moab, for those of you that know that pucker-string tightener)in tricky
situation adds to the adreneline flow.
        My opinion is that given two equal drivers and vehicles (save the
auto), the auto trans will be the smoother and more capable. I think that
less than 1% of the 4-wheeling population (not me) is capable of besting a
well driven auto on equal terms.
        None of the above accounts for driver preferences or the fun aspect
of a stick. There's nothing quite like working a Series gear shift like an
oar and getting it over a tough trail.

Jim Allen

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 11:40:57 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org>
Subject: Camels Over the Hill?

     Anybody know where i can find a good picture ofa camel trophy SIII?
     Are there any still on (or off) the road?
     
     Just wondering
     
     Mr. Curious
     
     Also i am still looking for a safari roof vent. It could be front or 
     back, trashed, whatever. I realy just need the latch.

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:01:21 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Camels Over the Hill?

Bobeck, David R. wrote:
>      Anybody know where i can find a good picture ofa camel trophy SIII?
>      Are there any still on (or off) the road?
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>      Also i am still looking for a safari roof vent. It could be front or
>      back, trashed, whatever. I realy just need the latch.

If the part you need is small and can be sent by post, you could try
calling my mechanic here in denmark - he usually has everything, and is
very helpful.

His name is Marius Bertelsen, if he isn't there ask for Per or Jan
and his telephone number is +45 86 95 42 07

I have never left his stores empty-handed - he and his son's strip every
wrecked or junked series truck they can get their hands on, and archive
everything of use, their barn is full of Land Rovers, in kit form. I
have just fallen for a series III 109" hardtop with windows, which will
fit my pick-up nicely - it's at least 10 years old, never been used, and
I'll get it for a fair price.

Good luck!
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:06:11 -0800
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Bushwackers was Re: Magazines

> >What do you mean by sensored? Did I miss something?
> ;
> Yep.  Dec issue page 13 right bottom is a small picture of two women
> standing alongside a Land Rover not wearing tops.

I thought they were caught in the act of getting dressed :)

> Personally I was glad to see the artical on Don Scott's hybred (I got a
> ride in it going to Billing), one on aux lighting and one on bushings for
> leaf sring LRs.  I survived the shock of seeing THE picture.
> TeriAnn

That article on the bushings was rather interesting.  Has anyone out there
had experience with  the bushwacker tool?  Last set I did I had to resort
to flame and hacksaw and I'd like to avoid that when I do the next set.

cheers,

Jeremy

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:01:38 -500
Subject: SolexThrottleBushCorrection

Land-Roverites,
The Solex address I gave earlier was incorrect.
Dixon bailed me out.

     Found it.  
     Wasn't from the newsletter.

     http://www.off-road.com/RoverWeb/Tidbits/Solex_throttle_bush.html

     Probably should put it there though...

Sorry for the confusion.  Mark

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From: eheite@dmv.com
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:06:12 -0500
Subject: magazines

The latest (post scandal) LRW just arrived. According to the cover blurb,
it was supposed to contain a 97 planning calendar, like the one they sent
in the first issue of 96.

No calendar.

No email address either, or I would bother them directly about it.

|---------------------------------------------
|        Ned Heite
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
|                          ---  Andrei Gromyko
|----------------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:32:16 -0700 (MST)
From: Addison <jraddiso@slate.Mines.EDU>
Subject: Re: Buick V8

Thanks for your comments.

I had a feeling this wouldn't be half a straight forward as I hoped. I 
knew some one would put me straight! Swaping gearbaoxes, drivetrain, 
modified steering ... is exactly what I don't want to do. I'll be content 
with 2.25.

Jason Addison
jraddiso@mines.edu                  ______
                                  /^\     \
Colorado School of Mines-Metallurgy ] : : ]==
Golden, Colorado                  \_/_____/

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:24:22 GMT
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: tracking

Richard Marsden writes with some questions on tracking and tyres

 Firstly, most of the remoulds available in the UK are made from soft
compound and typically wear out relatively quickly, particularly the ones
with open tread ( less rubber on the road to wear )

 Secondly, tracking is so easy to check on a LR,  and it is also so easy to
alter if you bang the kerb, drop into a pothole or OFF road seriously. Check
it regularly, all you need is an adjustable rod which fits inside the inner
edges of the front wheel rims, a piece of wood with a screw in each end will
suffice, use it as a gauge.

If you run the tyres for a thousand miles and there is an error a wear
pattern will be established in the tyre which will not be corrected by
adjusting the tracking, the tyres will continue to wear unevenly. In this
case fit them on the rear.
 Regards  Bill Leacock  Limey in exile

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:28:51 GMT
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>

Nate writes
Has anyone had success with installing an automatic transmission in their LR?
Just curious for the time being but if Solihull can put AT in a D90, why
can't I put AT in a 109?  My wife would love to drive a 109 but would much
rather have an AT for the school carpool lines and such.

 Over the years I have seen several LR series with auto boxes. Ian Ashcroft
makes a conversion for the transfer box that permits the fitting of an auto
box to it.

 regards  Bill Leacockn   Limey in exile

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:34:52 GMT
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Exhaust studs

Many of the problems associted with exhaust manifold studs are caused by the
failure to use brass nuts. If brass nuts are used, as is typical in the
exhaust area,  then corrosion is not a problem.

 Regards  Bill Leacock

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:02:47 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: Bushwackers  

        Have had and used a bushwacker for many years. Good bit of kit! You
can drive out the old and install the new at the same time. The only place
where the whacker seemed to continuously meet it's match was on Range Rover
(I got the do-it-all kit) front radius arm bushings.

Jim Allen

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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 21:20:12 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: snow plows?

Michael Roberts wrote:
> Hi all,
>         Does anyone have a snow plow set up on their machines?  I am
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> Michael Roberts
> Portland, Oregon

I adapted a plow for my 88" and it worked quite well.  I did the 
following:  I made blocks that fit the front springs just at the point 
where the spring is attached to the axle.  They consisted of two plates 
of 1/2 steel with four holes through which grade 8 bolts passed.  The 
plates had two plates at right angles welded on with large holes through 
them.  These where the attachment points for the arms that went to a 
plate that allowed the plow to articulate left and right.  The plow was 
lifted at one time by hydraulics, but I later found that my winch could 
do just as good a job.  I ran the control cable into the cab and 
controlled the up and down motion with the winch.  I wouldn't recommend 
it for commercial plowing, but for the cleaning of your driveway perhaps 
20 times a winter it was fine.  I sold it to a fellow who used all the 
same attachments for his Ford Bronco I think it was.  I have also had the 
electric hydraulic type and the straight hydraulic type.  I think for 
casual use the electric hydraulic pack was superior, but the straight 
hydraulic type with the large two way ram that let you did down rather 
than just let the plow float on the snow was the best of all.  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:37:00 -0800
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Bushwackers 

Jim Allen wrote:

>         Have had and used a bushwacker for many years. Good bit of kit! You
> can drive out the old and install the new at the same time. The only place
> where the whacker seemed to continuously meet it's match was on Range Rover
> (I got the do-it-all kit) front radius arm bushings.
> Jim Allen

Damn.. wouldn't you know.  The next bushing replacement job I'm looking at
is exactly that, an '83 RR.  Presumably it will also be tricky on the D90 front 
radius bushings (coming up in about a year).
Oh well, sounds like it's still worth while for the rest.
Thanks for the info.

cheers,

Jeremy

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:15:20 -0500
Subject: Drying Brake Shoes

Hi all,

How do most of you dry brake shoes after they've gotten wet?   I have always
driven slowly with light pressure on the brakes on and off for a bit and then
tested if they had grip.  My wife says she was always taught to back up and
apply the brakes a few times, repeat a few times and voila, brakes are dry.

Thanks for the input

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Subject: Re: AT in Series LR's
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 14:59:27 -0000
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

>Has anyone had success with installing an automatic transmission in their LR?
>Just curious for the time being but if Solihull can put AT in a D90, why
>can't I put AT in a 109?

There are a couple of firms in UK that carry out these conversions 
regularly (no help if you live over 3,000 miles away I suppose) for a 
variety of reasons, disabled drivers, people that just cruise their LRs 
not off-road - there are literally thousands of these in UK alone, if you 
count Discovery and Range Rover.

A work colleague of mine a few years back installed a three speed Auto 
box from a range rover into a SIII 88 with a V6 ford petrol, for 
competition and trialling - his competitors laughed until they found 
themselves watching him collect the winning prizes week after week.

Another interesting point(?) more Range Rovers are sold within the M25 
(the 116 mile motorway that rings London) than the rest of the country 
combined - anyone for an off-road session through St. James Park?

__________________________________

Simon Ward-Hastelow, Orpington, Kent, UK

"DOROTHY"  -  1985, 110, V8, CSW (24mpg)
__________________________________

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From: defender@uscom.com
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:44:27 -0500
Subject: NAS D90 in LR World

Does anyone know who owns the D90 on page 93 of the Jan. 97 Land Rover
World? It's green with bonnet mounted spare, fender protection plates, and
cool roof rack. I'm interested in the roof rack. Anyone know who makes it?
The truck is wearing Pennsylvania state inspection and emission stickers.
If you're on the list, I live in New Jersey, and I'd really like to see
your truck up close. Drop me a line.

Brian Cramer
'94 D90
'90 RR County

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From: James Wolf <J.Wolf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Mr. Paustian! What language!
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 23:50:54 +0000

Hi HO Landie Lovers,
Lets all be terribly civil shall we. AS---le indeed. Who is this person? Has
my boss purchased a L/R? Is he now on the digest? HO!NO!NO! I couldn't take
that, no way.
Since my missive on selling has been consumed by cyber space literary
critics.I will be brief. Stuff like toys, members extras, real good deals
etc. are fine with me. Stuff like those people from Atlanta NO! Commercial
advertisements NO!
Reprinting catalogues NO! I have seem nothing from Mike at ECP that I would
object to.
On the UK digest someone was asking about door frame repair pieces. LRO or
LRW had an article on this I believe this year. With sources for the repair
pieces. I will try to get back into my studio and find out exactly which
mag. and which month. We are redoing the dining room floor and all the stuff
is now (neatly) piled into this room, it may take several days to find.

Keep On (Land-Rover) Truckin'
Jim Wolf 1966 sIIa 109 sw Vicky
Portsmouth, VA USA

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:59:03 -0500
Subject: Re: AT in Series LR's

As part of the seemingly endless stream on automatics in LRs:
> To please the American market? Weren't there some plans to do away with
>   manual transmissions in US Landies?

My contributrion: I don't know LRs reasoning but emission regs are
considerably easier to meet with automatics than manuals. Reason: relative
lack of transients during shifts, which generate lots of pollutants and are
difficult to control. Other possible reason for autos in '97 D90s: the D90
drivetrain is probably certified as a Discovery variant. Is the '97 Dicso
available in the US with a manual?

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:16:02 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: Bushwacker Problems

>Jim Allen wrote:
>>         Have had and used a bushwacker for many years. Good bit of kit! You
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>> (I got the do-it-all kit) front radius arm bushings.
>> Jim Allen

Jeremy Wrote:
>Damn.. wouldn't you know.  The next bushing replacement job I'm looking at
>is exactly that, an '83 RR.  Presumably it will also be tricky on the D90
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Oh well, sounds like it's still worth while for the rest.
>Thanks for the info.

Jim Allen responds:

Don't worry, it will do the radius bushings but the job borders on a pain
in the hemorrhoid locker.

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:21:28 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: AT in Series LR's

>My contributrion: I don't know LRs reasoning but emission regs are
>considerably easier to meet with automatics than manuals. Reason: relative
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
>Regards,
>David Cockey

Yes, but each vehicle and combination of drivetrain must be tested
individiually.The EPA doesn't care how few vehicles will be imported. My
guess is that, since this is the D90s last gasp here, LR was trying to save
the $250,000 testing costs of at least one of the two possible drivetrain
combos. Besides, there was a lot of requests for an auto D90. Fortunately,
the thing works great!

Jim Allen

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:32:09 -0800
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Poachers!

At 08:15 PM 12/9/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Tonight, after picking up my son at swim practice, I returned home in the
>J**p to find my wife running up from the barn. 
>"Poachers in the back field, let's go get 'em!"  , she says.

Wow!  Great excitement!  So, I have to ask -- what were the poachers
poaching?  (And if you say poached eggs...)

--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:32:06 -0800
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Land Rover Toys for sale

For those that complained so hard...

>        2 mid 1960's vintage HUSKY models *fore runner to CORGI Jr. I
>think* made in Great Britian.

I have to say I am glad Mike posted this message.  I forwarded it to my
family list, and rumour has it they may be headed my way in about 12 days...
[8^)

--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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From: robot1@juno.com
Subject: Modifications
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:02:52 EST

Seems like there is a lot of controversy surrounding people wanting to
make mods to their LR's. As I am in the process of purchasing (from a
wonderfully patient man) a 1967 109 which already has a Scotty's kit and
a GM inline 6 (which it will probably keep) I have a few comments on the
subject

I can wholly appreciate the concept of doing one's best to keep a rare
and unusual vehicle as original as it is possible to keep it. I recently
sold a vehicle I owned which was VERY rare (only 1800 were ever made) and
I made the purchaser ( an honorable man) promise to KEEP IT ORIGINAL.
Otherwise, no sale. I still check up on it from time to time.

It seems to me that Land Rovers are, by design, the most adaptable
vehicle on the planet. It seldom appears that anyone is happy with them
"original" (which means, basically, without radio, with breezy bodies,
wimpy heaters, brutal suspensions, unreliable electronics, etc.) and
almost everyone on the list wants to do something to make theirs "More":
Reliable, warmer, safer, comfortable, driveable, attractive,(really?)
useful, rugged, etc. 

I have to believe that owners have a moral obligation to 
A: keep rare and distinctive Rovers as intact as possible,or sell/swap
with owners who will; and 
B: use the commoner and less collectable machines to modify to suit the
purpose that is  their hearts desire, as it seems this is the largest
part of the true Rover tradition. So guys, and of course gals, if you're
desparate to install Automatic transmissions, lockout hubs, homemade
bumpers, snowplows, Ham Radios, CD players,  Volvo seats, Turbodiesels,
Dual remote electric rearview mirrors, Chrome plated naked lady emblems
on mudflaps, Lavalamps, or AK-47's in their Rovers, do so on a vehicle
with no intrinsic collectability and FOR GOD'S SAKE KEEP IT OFF THE LIST
AND STOP THESE D***ED FLAME WARS!!!	

Oh, God, what did I just start....Mark

To Do is To Be-Socrates
To Be is To Do-Plato
Do Be Do Be Do-Sinatra

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From: "Richard Ruffer" <rruffer@world2u.com>
Subject: Re: Europarts
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:07:55 -0500

>      Has ANYBODY bought anything from Europarts? I've gotten some prices 
>      from them that sound pretty good.

I bought a surrey top for my D90 from Europarts and was quite pleased. 
Price was the best I could find, service was good, and I got it within 2
days (I do live pretty close to them, though). A top is a pretty easy part
to order, I don't know how good they are with technical questions on parts.

Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
'94 D90
rruffer@world2u.com
http://www.world2u.com/~rruffer

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:48:33 -0700
From: Rover2a <rover2a@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: Modifications

robot1@juno.com wrote:

>Mark wrights
>Seems like there is a lot of controversy surrounding people wanting to
>make mods to their LR's. As I am in the process of purchasing (from a
>wonderfully patient man) a 1967 109 which already has a Scotty's kit and
>a GM in line 6 (which it will probably keep)

Gar's reply
I think doing mods to a landrover is not a crime but it should be done
with moderation, the mods that I have seen are all hack jobs and a
concern for safety. But 1 of the boys here in town has a 109 with a
chevy 6 in it and it runs fine and was a good kit,  plus it goose up
hills like a rocket. The only thing is the stream of electrical problems
that are with him all the time.
Hope your new 109 is free of this and other problems

Gar H
SLC UT. USA

67IIA primer grey and love it no fancy color 

Chrome plated naked lady emblems( is this the last thing that shines on
a J##P just before it is put in the crusher)

To Do is To Be-Socrates
To Be is To Do-Plato
Do Be Do Be Do-Sinatra
Do Do-Do Do Change me - my son

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:18:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff & Laura Kessler <lmkessler@srnet.com>
Subject: Working on a snow day

Saw the comment when it happened and again just recently about LRNA being
closed due to the weather during a bad storm last winter.

I use to live in the Washington DC metro area and remember a few good
storms, including 2 18+ inchers a few days apart in the winter of 86-87.  We
ran our 4WD of the time, an Isuzu Trooper, for a week or so without taking
it out of 4WD.  Even the beltway was a snow covered roadway!

At the time, and still today, I felt that just because I could get to work
why should I when everyone else with less capable autos could say home.  Not
that we actually stayed home.

Jeff Kessler
1988 Range Rover
Newport NH USA   603-863-7883   lmkessler@srnet.com

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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 03:06:13 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Re:

>     Has ANYBODY bought anything from Europarts? I've gotten some prices
>     from them that sound pretty good.
   Dave B.
Dave,
        I've bought a couple of things from Euro-parts and have been quite
satisfied.  Occasionally his shipping is erratic but it seems to be getting
better.

Steve Paustian
D90 SW

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