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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:04:13 -0500
Subject: Fwd: American Finalists Selected for 1997 Camel Trophy Adventure Sweat, strai...

Just thought it may be of interest:

 hours of competition here this weekend, four finalists have been selected
for
 the United States' 1997 Camel Trophy team. Two of these four will go on to
 represent the U.S. in May when two-person teams from twenty nations travel
to
 Mongolia for the adventure of a lifetime.
           Will Burkhart, 30, a commercial real estate investment specialist
from
 Indianapolis, Ind.; David Kelly, 31, a marketing manager from Aptos, Calif.;
 Doug Mays, 35, a forest engineer from Corvallis, Ore.; and Christopher
 vanNest, 24, a multimedia software developer from Bethlehem, Pa., will
travel
 to the Camel Trophy International Selections in Seville, Spain, next March,
 where they will vie for the chance to represent the USA on a three-week,
 1,400-mile challenge of physical and mental endurance.
           Mays is looking forward to the adventure that Camel Trophy
represents,
 "Meeting an international community of participants intrigues me: truly a
 once-in-a-lifetime experience, all in the excitement of pioneering and
 expedition."
           For vanNest, Camel Trophy would be "a unique opportunity for me to
 contribute my skills and knowledge ... in an unequaled outdoor adventure."
           The National Trials in Social Circle were the first step in
determining
 the U.S. team.  The marathon of competition began before sunrise on Saturday
 with a series of team-building exercises designed to forge a team spirit
among
 the eight individual candidates.  Each team of four was given three boards
of
 unequal length and asked to cross a ravine, retrieve a spare tire from a
 specific compass bearing and bring both tire and team members back across
the
 makeshift bridge.
           Throughout the day, the candidates' tasks continued, including
 orienteering, rope climbing, kayaking, swimming, precision driving and
 bridge-building.
           At night, the seven men and one woman used their Land Rover
Discoverys
 (the same vehicles to be driven on the actual event) to demonstrate their
 off-road driving prowess.  The thick red Georgia clay created a knee-deep
 ooze, forcing the competitors to winch their vehicles through many portions
of
 the trail.  While waiting their turns at the wheel, the weary candidates
took
 written tests of map-reading, first-aid, and mechanical knowledge -- all
 critical Camel Trophy skills.
          In the final event of the U.S. Trials, the Camel Trophy hopefuls
were
 required to complete two laps of a four-mile mountain bike course, and then,
 without pause, run the same two laps on foot: a 16-mile sprint over the same
 forest trails they had been navigating during the night.
          Throughout the Trials, candidates were judged on their enthusiasm,
their
 ability to perform arduous tasks under the most difficult conditions and
their
 willingness to listen to new ideas and techniques. Finalist Kelly thinks he
 knows what it takes to make a successful candidate.  "Camel Trophy requires
 the combination of determination, guts, endurance, leadership, teamwork and
 problem solving with environmental concern."
          But why would anyone went to get involved in this kind of event?
"Because
 three weeks of sweat, strain and high adventure is my idea of a most
excellent
 vacation," said Burkhart. "Besides," he added, "it sounds like fun."
           Camel Trophy is sponsored by Worldwide Brands, Inc., marketer of
Camel
 Trophy adventure gear and clothing and by Land Rover, manufacturer of
premium
 British four wheel drive vehicles. >>

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Forwarded message:
From:	AOLNewsProfiles@aol.net
Date: 96-12-11 15:33:11 EST

    SOCIAL CIRCLE, Ga., Dec. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- Following a grueling thirty
hours of competition here this weekend, four finalists have been selected for
the United States' 1997 Camel Trophy team. Two of these four will go on to
represent the U.S. in May when two-person teams from twenty nations travel to
Mongolia for the adventure of a lifetime.
          Will Burkhart, 30, a commercial real estate investment specialist
from
Indianapolis, Ind.; David Kelly, 31, a marketing manager from Aptos, Calif.;
Doug Mays, 35, a forest engineer from Corvallis, Ore.; and Christopher
vanNest, 24, a multimedia software developer from Bethlehem, Pa., will travel
to the Camel Trophy International Selections in Seville, Spain, next March,
where they will vie for the chance to represent the USA on a three-week,
1,400-mile challenge of physical and mental endurance.
          Mays is looking forward to the adventure that Camel Trophy
represents,
"Meeting an international community of participants intrigues me: truly a
once-in-a-lifetime experience, all in the excitement of pioneering and
expedition."
          For vanNest, Camel Trophy would be "a unique opportunity for me to
contribute my skills and knowledge ... in an unequaled outdoor adventure."
          The National Trials in Social Circle were the first step in
determining
the U.S. team.  The marathon of competition began before sunrise on Saturday
with a series of team-building exercises designed to forge a team spirit
among
the eight individual candidates.  Each team of four was given three boards of
unequal length and asked to cross a ravine, retrieve a spare tire from a
specific compass bearing and bring both tire and team members back across the
makeshift bridge.
          Throughout the day, the candidates' tasks continued, including
orienteering, rope climbing, kayaking, swimming, precision driving and
bridge-building.
          At night, the seven men and one woman used their Land Rover
Discoverys
(the same vehicles to be driven on the actual event) to demonstrate their
off-road driving prowess.  The thick red Georgia clay created a knee-deep
ooze, forcing the competitors to winch their vehicles through many portions
of
the trail.  While waiting their turns at the wheel, the weary candidates took
written tests of map-reading, first-aid, and mechanical knowledge -- all
critical Camel Trophy skills.
         In the final event of the U.S. Trials, the Camel Trophy hopefuls
were
required to complete two laps of a four-mile mountain bike course, and then,
without pause, run the same two laps on foot: a 16-mile sprint over the same
forest trails they had been navigating during the night.
         Throughout the Trials, candidates were judged on their enthusiasm,
their
ability to perform arduous tasks under the most difficult conditions and
their
willingness to listen to new ideas and techniques. Finalist Kelly thinks he
knows what it takes to make a successful candidate.  "Camel Trophy requires
the combination of determination, guts, endurance, leadership, teamwork and
problem solving with environmental concern."
         But why would anyone went to get involved in this kind of event?
"Because
three weeks of sweat, strain and high adventure is my idea of a most
excellent
vacation," said Burkhart. "Besides," he added, "it sounds like fun."
          Camel Trophy is sponsored by Worldwide Brands, Inc., marketer of
Camel
Trophy adventure gear and clothing and by Land Rover, manufacturer of premium
British four wheel drive vehicles.
      SOURCE  Land Rover North America, Inc.
      CO:  Land Rover North America, Inc.
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:03:54 -0600
From: "Herman L. Stude" <hermans@krts.com>
Subject: Re: ROver Yonder...

Dave says
Idle goes up sometimes. I set it to 825-850, and I find it later at 
1000-1200.
Sometimes blipping the throttle will make it drop off again

I've got the same problem with my S3, any thoughts?  

Dave what tyres are you going to put on those skiny 16" wheels, I'd like 
to put those same wheels on my 88, but I haven't found a good tire with 
lots of plys and lots of bite (my 88 sees lots of dirt, mud, rock, etc.)

Anyone replace a wheel bearing?  My front right one is shot, sez my 
mechanic and needs work, it was full of water.  Oops!

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:21:24 -0500
Subject: Re: ROver Yonder...

In a message dated 96-12-11 18:15:04 EST, you write:

<< Anyone replace a wheel bearing?  My front right one is shot, sez my 
 mechanic and needs work, it was full of water.  Oops!
  >>

Yep.  It's not too bad of a job.  Follow the workshop manual.  While you're
in there, you should replace the distance piece (it's a small ring at the
backplate) and the oil seals back there.  Use the old race as a drift for the
new one.  Oh yea, probably should do both front wheel bearings at the same
time.

Good Luck

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:13:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Stuff for sale. 

Since someone else brought it up... I noticed an old CB of mine has a switch
on the back so it can be positive ground(!) Maybe someone on the list would
like to trade me out of it ? It's a Johnson Messenger 123a with a turner
power mike. I'll have to see if it still works this weekend.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD engine rebuild under way!
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!!

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 17:28:06 PST
From: dtownsen@steinway.edaca.ingr.com (Dave Townsend)
Subject: unsubscribe

unsubscribe

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:51:06 -0500
Subject: Repacking Hubs Question

Hi all,

When one replaces the rear half shafts, and removes the driving member, can
the hub be effectively repacked at that time or does something prevent it.

Secondly, how packed do most people do?  In the Porter book they say, be
careful not to over pack or it may force its way past the seal.  Comments?

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:19:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Repacking Hubs Question

Nate inquires:
> When one replaces the rear half shafts, and removes the driving member, can
>  the hub be effectively repacked at that time or does something prevent it.
Yes. Proceed to remove the hub using your sheet metal socket or other
prefered tool for removing the lock nuts. Then remove the hub assembly,
repack bearings, and reinstall.

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:35:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Truck cap/top

Mike wants a pickup.
> So I told her I wanted a truck
>  top for my 88.  So I started looking.  I tried BP RN, bit of Brit and
>  found none.  SO does anyone on the list have one for know of one for
>  sale?

Does anyone know why truck cabs are so difficult to find? I know that only a
few were originally imported into the US, but I gather they are not that easy
to find in the UK.

Michel comments:
>Be careful when you shop around since if you find one that used to be on a
>109, you will need a special adapter piece to go between the cab and the
>rear tub.

Quite true and also not easy to find. We got one from Dunsfold several years
ago, and brought it back as checked luggage. The design changed at some
point, and the later panels also need some spacer rings. Also used with the
88s is a center brace from the spare tire mount to the back of the cab roof.
If anyone needs more info on these parts e-mail me. Michel also comments
about cab roofs being beat up. Interesting that they are steel and seem to
suffer more than SW or hardtop roofs.

Don't forget that if you have a SW rear door, you will also need a tailgate
or substitute, and modifications to the rear openning corners unless you're
planning on running open at the back.

Regards,
David Cockey

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:52:53 -0500
Subject: Re: ROver Yonder... (wheel colors)

The eternal wheel color question reappears:
> Ive got some 16" wheels that Im going to paint. Was there a stock color for

>  these? Were they all limestone, or were some black< or were they the color

> of the vehicle? The wheels are circa 1962...part#231601

>From a circa 1966 sales brochure:
Bronze green body = bronze green wheels
Red body = red wheels
Mist coal grey body = primer wheels
All other colors body = limestone wheels

The same brochure lists red interior trim & seats as an option for both home
and export SWs? Has anybody seen red trim other than a fire appliance?

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:06:03 -0700
From: Rover2a <rover2a@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: Bad running

Paul Daintree wrote:
> HELP!
> I am running out of ideas. My 2.25 petrol landy is behaving very badly,

Paul:  after a pint or two this reminded of the same thing that my 67
IIA did, it turned out to be the hold down for the distributor, it keeps
coming undone and the d#m thing would tunr just a little bit and the
other thing was the it needed a new distributor oh I replaced the
distributor first and after some fun times thinking I was going nuts I
found the bad tie down for it, hope this helps.    Gar

and there is Guinness in Utah, but it taste better in a small pub in
Castlerea, Co. Roscommom a little place known as hell's kitchen. Go
there if you can

Gar H.
slc Ut
rover2a@xmission.com
67IIA
73III parts after the crash

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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: RE: Major woes
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 22:09:45 -0500

Yeah, I've lost at least three posts this week. What ails the old boy???

Cheers
Jim

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From:  Alexander P. Grice[SMTP:rover@pinn.net]
Sent:  Wednesday, December 11, 1996 7:10 PM
Subject:  Major woes

Something's ailing the major...I posted out a message last night that 
several folks on the real-time list replied too, yet today's digest is only 
two posts long, and mine ain't one of 'em.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 23:24:53 -0500
Subject: Re:Toys for sale

I read Mike's post regarding the toys. I don't object to him selling two toys
in the manner he posted. No different than if I posted that "I have the
following diesel bits left over, here's what I want for them, or, here's my
wish list." I don't see a double standard, except that perhaps others would
restrict what some of us can post, just because we're in the LR trade, to
some extent or another.
  There's a difference between offering a few bits to other afficianados and
ordering in (for instance) a container of models from China and using the
list to dispose of them at double the money.
  The Big Lots store here (AKA Odd Lots in other places) has some chinese
1:32 Defender models. They are die cast and have a bull bar and rear bumper,
and rear spare. Item number 5104 from Midwestern Home Products Inc. of
Wilmington DE. At first I thought this was the same as the ones WalMart was
selling with the F**d E*plorers, but it's much better. I got a few for me and
various nephews and grandsons, if anyone want's me to see if they have any
more, I will. They're $4.99 and tax. for reimbursement only. (It *is*
Christmas, after all) Email me privately.
**I ran by Big Lots since writing the above. No more Defenders in Woodstock,
but I *did* pick up a couple of G-wagens by the same people. **
 And if I have some left over and a few years down the road, I might offer
them for the going price, on the list, and get the same abuse as Mike. Oy!!
Vey!!
Holiday Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD engine rebuild under way!
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!!

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 23:24:28 -0500
Subject: A street legal smoking SIII diesel

>>Ned, what on earth is the Patch approach?
>>Since I don't know what it is, I probably haven't tried it.
They're messing with you, Huub! 
Now I guess I need to define messing. 
 A year is plenty of time to sort out the diesel. I have virtually no
experience with the LR oil burner, but more than I like to claim on Peugeot
and Volvo(VW). Start with the basics. Get a book on diesels with a good
troubleshooting guide and go from there. Clean fuel and filters are first. No
water, right? No fungus in the tank? Valves set right? Check the spray
pattern on the injectors, (but *never* put your finger over an injector
capable of discharging! This is how we give vaccines in the US military.
Diesel fuel injected subcutaneously can cause loss of fingers or death!!
While the injectors are out and at the shop being checked for opening
pressure and such as that, check your compression. Maybe you can borrow a
guage from another LRO. 
 If injectors and compression are all OK, go on to the pump and it's timing.
At one time it was timed right or it would'nt be running anyway, so don't
assume you need to adjust it. You can remove it, but take it to a specialist
who can measure it's discharge volumes and advance characteristics. They can
calibrate it for you, too. Tell them what you're after, so they know. Good
power, less smoke. 
 Finally, how much do you need to reduce the smoking? There is a standard for
diesel exhausts and a way to measure it. Have it checked either before or
after the injector service to see how much improvement you need.
Hope this helps. Good Luck as you get to know more about how your Rover
works!
Cheers!! and Merry Christmas!! 
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
KF4NAS
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD engine rebuild under way!
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!!

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:35:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Roberts <psu00712@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: snow plows?

Hi all,
	Does anyone have a snow plow set up on their machines?  I am 
looking for a set up to go on a Series IIA 109" SW.  Any suggestions?  
Brand names?  Locations?

Michael Roberts
Portland, Oregon

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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:41:24 +0200
From: stan@rgo.co.za (Stan)
Subject: Discovery blues

Can anyone please help??

I took delivery of my brand new Discovery TDi ES Auto in April, I was
sold the car on the basis that the TDi towed better than the V8 and was
far lighter on fuel.

Well the car uses 50% more fuel than the manual says, it belches smoke
like a worn out truck and is dead scared of hills. It does not climb a
hill without dropping down to 90-100 km/h, unless one has a long run at
the hill and start the climb at about 140km/h.

The car has spent almost 2 months at the dealer, the injector pump has
been just been taken off and calibrated (2 1/2 weeks) and it is still no
better)

How can I fix this short of selling the vehicle??

Rgds

Stan

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