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1 Manny Garcia [mann@epic.41RR-HSE stuck height
2 landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mi11Re: How long is an LR chassis?
3 brstore@ibm.net 6[not specified]
4 MRogers315@aol.com 21 4-wheel steering
5 brstore@ibm.net 7
6 "Deanna D. Sitter" [lani48Intermediate Gears


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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:07:47 +0800
From: Manny Garcia <mann@epic.net>
Subject: RR-HSE stuck height

Hi all,

Problems again... but first, thanks to all those people in the list who are
always kind enough to share their knowledge, experience and/or technical
expertise (the list very well knows who you are).  To the rest, thanks for
providing great entertainment.

There are currently 2 RRs that I need help on.  These RRs are just recently
shipped in and the problem is that height/road clearance adjustments are
non-functioning.

As was explained to me :

RR#1 :  4.6LI HSE
        Air suspension stuck in low ground clearance.
        4 lights (height adjustment switches) light up at the same time
        Air compressor (i think) is hot to feel, but can hold
        FUSE and RELAYS checked : no problem there

RR#2 : 4.6LI HSE
        Air suspension stuck in standard/normal ground clearance.
        4 lights (height adjustment switches) light up one at a time
        Air compressor (i think) is hot to feel, but can hold
        FUSE and RELAYS checked : no problem there

Is there a fuse or something that needs to be removed or installed anywhere
in the vehicle after shipment ? Is this the time to use the "TEST
BOOK"-$25,000.00 gadget ( which we don't have, but looking for someone in UK
to give us a quotation ).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Mann
mann@epic.net

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:03:44 -0500
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: How long is an LR chassis?

>| How long is an 88 chssis, anyway?
>About 80cm shorter than your 109 => ~3.5m
>Should stick out about 1.6m at the back.
-

According to my book... 134.6 inches.

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From: brstore@ibm.net
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 96 11:01:45 PST

get lro-diget 960625

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:53:30 -0500
Subject:  4-wheel steering

<This is something I dreamed up to improve low-speed
<maneouverability on a Series LR...  Sound crazy?

I seem to recall an article in LROI a few years ago on a Lightweight with
four wheel steering built for use on a ship.

<Basically, you fit a front axle in place of the rear
<axle.  Since the diff is not a hypoid bevel, it can
<turn both ways. 

 I recall the axle was not just turned over but had the centre cut out and
welded back in reversed, or was it flipped!. Anyway it worked.

Mike Rogers
( Lightweight/ Range Rover Hybrid)

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From: brstore@ibm.net
Date:  Sat, 23 Nov 96 11:01:45 PST
Subject:  

get lro-diget 960625

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:22:53 -0900
From: "Deanna D. Sitter" <lani@Alaska.NET>
Subject: Intermediate Gears

Swapping in an early model intermediate gear will not help out The high
range gearing.  All series Rovers, except FC's, one ton's, and stage
1's, have a high range ratio of 1.148:1 in the transfer case.  The
Series 1's and 2's have a suffix A gearbox (actually I believe there is
no suffix letter stamped on the gearboxes until the B, all unmarked
boxes are considered A's).  The early 2a's have the suffix B box.  All A
and B boxes share the same gear ratio's in both the tranny and transfer
case.

1st= 2.996:1   2nd= 2.043:1   3rd= 1.377:1   4th= 1:1   rev= 2.547:1
High= 1.148:1  Low= 2.888:1

The gear ratio's were changed with the suffix C boxes somewhere between
1964-5 I think.  They are as follows:

1st=3.60:1     2nd= 2.22:1    3rd= 1.50:1    4th= 1:1   rev=3.02:1
High= 1.148:1  Low= 2.350:1

Basically Rover lowered the first through third ratio's, probably to
provide better starting off gearing for on road duty, while they
increased the low range gearing to keep the overall first gear ratio in
low range the same.  Combined with the 4.7 diff's both combinations
provide aprox. 40:1 reduction in low range first gear.  High range 4th 
gear will yield 5.396:1 in both.

An early T-case combined with a later tranny will provide an overall low
range first gear reduction of aprox. 49:1 with the 4.7 diffs.  High
range 4th will still only yield 5.396:1.

The B units were sort of transition pieces.  The tranny has the gear
ratio's of the A combined with the larger front layshaft bearing of the
later units.  The T-case has the low low range combined with the larger
intermediate shaft.  The B intermediate gear is a direct swap into a
later case as long as the low range gear from an A or B is swapped in
with it.

Regarding the four wheel steering.  If you turn the diff upsidedown it
will not oil the pinion bearings properly.  Also, spiral bevel gears do
have a coast and drive side.  They are weaker if driven from the coast
side.  A straight bevel gear would be the same either way.

Tim Sitter
Peter's Creek Alaska

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