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1 Spenny@aol.com 25Re: highway speed
2 Spenny@aol.com 20Re: LR Question
3 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett30Re: Record gas mileage
4 eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit53Herr Von Rover's Isetta
5 Greg Spitz [Gspitz@conce9Golden Fleece of Rovers
6 Michel Bertrand [mbertra53Re: Parts Questions
7 RoverNut@aol.com 19Rovers and comedy
8 RoverNut@aol.com 19playmates
9 robot1@juno.com 77weaving various threads into the warp and weft of some very
10 "Randall Thomas" [rthoma90Alas, selling my Land Rover
11 "S. Vels" [svels@mail-se20RE: No Subject
12 lopezba@atnet.at 24Re: Norway
13 Nathan Dunsmore [dunsmo117Wading question
14 Dirk Tischer [dtischer@U24Re: Back Off
15 landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mi16Re: HylomarMylomarZylomar
16 landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mi49Re: Back off!
17 landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mi25RE: No Subject
18 Wdcockey@aol.com 11Re: Back Off
19 Wdcockey@aol.com 12Re: Back Off (ignore previous)
20 ASFCO@aol.com 15Re: Alas, selling my Land Rover
21 "Jan Wagemaker" [wagemak13colour scheme
22 "William L. Leacock" [wl186 x 6
23 Allan Smith [smitha@cand17Trini connection
24 Wdcockey@aol.com 26Re: 6 x 6
25 Jeremy J Bartlett [Bartl15Re: Wading question
26 JDolan2109@aol.com 38'seat of the pants' advice about seat of the valves?
27 Manny Garcia [mann@epic.14RR Analyzer
28 Manny Garcia [mann@epic.186 Cyl Block
29 "S. Vels" [svels@mail-se23Classic Cars sI buyers guide


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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 07:01:16 -0500
Subject: Re: highway speed

Mr Ian Stuart" <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk> writes....

> disposal, utilizing all aspects of land-rover charm and respect?

My technique is to ease *off* the accelerator!

(my 109 has no crumple zone and a solid rear end - most modern cars have 

soft front ends...)

as I once heard dixon (my, he is being quoted a lot these days....) utter
while pointing at his rear crossmember.... his skid is going to stop there.

rgds,
spenny

Land Rover, 4WD of choice for the information superhighway
69 SWB, The Wayback Machine
Arlington, Virginia

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 07:01:22 -0500
Subject: Re: LR Question

adrian redmond writes....

According to the Haynes manual there is space for 5 angels on the head

of a pin :-) though I am sure that some of you  have managed 7 or 8?

yes but does it say if they were SI angels or SIIA angels?

rgds,
spenny

Land Rover, 4WD of choice for the information superhighway
69 SWB, The Wayback Machine
Arlington, Virginia

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: Record gas mileage
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 96 23:15:00 EST

All,

Just to keep your minds working, here are some formulae for you.  Note in 
these, gals are Imperial not US.  I am not sure what the conversion is for 
US gals to litres.  If someone lets me know, I'll update the formulae.  1 
Imperial gallon = 4.54609 litres

Ron

Conversion of l/100km to mpg (Imperial)

   mpg  =      282.48 / (l/100km figure)

Conversion using litres and miles to mpg  (Imperial):

    mpg  =  4.54609 x mileage / litres used

Conversion using litres and km to mpg  (Imperial):
          mpg  =  2.8248 x km travelled / litres used

Conversion of mpg  (Imperial) to litres/100km:

    l/100km  =  282.48 / (mpg figure)
          

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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:02:47 -0500
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: Herr Von Rover's Isetta

S. Vels wrote (disparagingly) about the new masters at Rover:

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> a German motorbikes manufacturer which switched to low cost ,feul
>efficient car

BMW made what was called a "cabin scooter" which opened in the front.
"Isetta" as the name.

Isetta, Messy and Goggomobil was part of the backbone of the
wirtschaftswunder (along with a cash injection from Uncle sam).

Our landies are now in the same family with Isetta. Wonder what
mother in law looks like?

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Anyone who has tried to keep an Isetta alive can appreciate the stellar
engineering at Rover, even in darkest Leyland days!  If you asked the BMW
car dealer for help, he was unable to recognize the badge on the front of
the vehicle, even when you pointed to an identical badge on his sign. If
you took it to a BMW motorcycle dealer, you were referred to a burly guy in
black leather.

Since my oher car at that time was a Jag, I took my (my wife's actually)
Isetta to the Jag-Rolls-Rootes dealer for Virginia state inspection.  The
starter was having trouble, so I had a spool attached to the end of the
crankshaft for a rope starter.

Imagine standing in the middle of a Rolls Royce shop, starting an Isetta
with a rope. On the second try, somebody yelled "raise the blade!"  It was,
in fact, smaller than most riding mowers.

On a more serious note, it should be pointed out that the German auto
industry was bathed in Marshall Plan money, while Rover built the LR from
scratch with nothing.

 _______
 |___|__\__==    "There are three fine arts:
 | _ |  |  --]   painting, sculpture, and            <DARWIN><
 =(O)-----(O)=   ornamental pastry-making,          "     "
================ of which architecture is a branch"
                                       ---- Fournier le jeune

Ned Heite, town crank and contract archaeologist, Camden, Delaware

                             

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 07:32:26 -0800
From: Greg Spitz <Gspitz@concentric.net>
Subject: Golden Fleece of Rovers

Can the list member who described the Defender 110 as the "Golden Fleece"
of Land Rovers please email me directly...I may name my new 110 and want 
to give him the credit directly..
Greg

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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:37:23 -0500
From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@InterLinx.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Parts Questions 

At 09:57 96-11-08 -0800, you wrote:

>On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Chris Murray wrote:

- #2  For those of you in the u.s., has anyone had any experience 
- dealing with john craddock's in england.  i was told by someone to 
- do everything by fax, but either my fax is not getting thru or 
- they really don't care about my order.  Any suggestions?

The idea is to have the name of the person who receives the faxes, and then,
if you have bad service, to be able to complain about it by giving a
specific name. Also, fror some kind of reason, if you know the name of the
person, when you phone back to check on your order, you don't sound like a
bozo. Now, I am sure that you want the name of that person, right? Well, I
happen to have it. I could give it to you for a used tailgate, preferably
limestone. If you want the full name, I will take an overdrive for that,
still in box, of course.

Seriously, when you send a fax to Craddock's send it to the attention of
Stephanie. She's the one who deals with all the fax orders. If they don't
respond too quick, it is usually because of one of two reasons. 

1) The part that you requested is an odd part, therefore they have to try to
look it up ex: Sea-rover conversion kit

2) They need to quote for the shipping costs and date of delivery and they
have no control on that. They probably send a fax to some kind of shipping
company and wait for it to return before answering your request.

Once you sent your fax, wait a day or two and pick-up the phone. Give
Stephanie a call and ask her how is the order beeing taken care of. Her
british accent is not so bad, I have heard much worse than that.

Hope that helps, 

BTW, I'll be nice and accept a beer instead of the limestone tailgate and
in-box overdrive.

Salutations, 

Michel Bertrand
						______
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, 		       /    __
					      /        \
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)	   		     | Lucas    |
1968 109 SW (in the works)		     |  Inside  |
1973 88 SW (21st century project)	      \        /
					       \______/

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:51:10 -0500
Subject: Rovers and comedy

In a message dated 96-11-09 07:19:27 EST, you write:

<< What's fun is watching Monty Python and trying to find the Land Rovers.
   >>

Check out Mr. Bean too. I often catch a 110 hanging around somewhere when the
show takes place outside.
Plus, that mini he drives is the coolest.

Alex Maiolo
69 IIA
89 Range Rover
96 Corgi Miniature "Mr Bean's Mini"

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:12:46 -0500
Subject: playmates

Here in the vast Rover wasteland of NC, it is difficult to find folks to run
with in the Rover circle. I only know of two other series vehicles in the
area, and funny enough, one of them (my pal Mark) lives a block away. The
other guy is a dolt who has no idea what he is doing or what he's got.
I was wondering if you folks nearby, especially in VA, wouldn't mind keeping
me abreast of upcoming events,  even if it's just a little get together, as
I'd like to mingle.
I found out about the big HooHa in October too late and couldn't make it.
Thanks Guys

Alex Maiolo
 69 IIA
 89 Range Rover

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From: robot1@juno.com
Subject: weaving various threads into the warp and weft of some very 
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:46:14 EST

Tailgaters:
Let 'em honk-keeps me awake while i'm driving

Angels:
Could it be that the bigger butts have been caused by the fall? would
then only fallen angels have big butts? Could there just be no
healthriders in Texas? Where were those healthrider commercials with
spandex clad women pulsing their lean buttocks when I was 15 and needed
such entertainment? had to make do with the Sears catalog...

Camel Trophy for seniors/over the hill gang:
Some credit must be given to those who have earned the experience NOT to
have to schlepp transmissions up hills and through raging torrents...
Camel trophy, while entertaining, is simply a demonstration of what you
have to do when you haven't got the brains to provide otherwise for the
"off-road emergencies" encountered. 
Here proposed are some ideas for "events" in what I'd like to call the
Mule Trophy:

With Only enough change for ONE phone call, get someone to drive out into
the middle of nowhere and FOR FREE, help tow your disabled rover home.

Creatively juggle credit card payments so you can scrape together enough
cash to purchase a new galvanized frame for your Rover.

Call enough friends to help you do a framover in a weekend. Pay them in
pizza and beer. Keep them sober enough to work. Keep them drunk enough to
stay till it's done.
Field phone calls from their angry spouses (spice?). Need the newly
rebuilt machine to go to work monday. Work until the wee hours to do so.
Fail. Get at least one friend too drunk to drive. Make him spend the
night. Wake him early on monday to drive you to work. 

With a tester consisting of a light bulb with a piece of wire twisted
around it's base, troubleshoot a malfunctioning Lucas electrical system. 
Use masking tape to insulate electrical connections made by twisting
wires together. Alternately, twist the wires together and insulate them
with a piece of soda straw filled with Silicone bathtub calk.

Use a bottle of Everclear to thaw ice out of frozen fuel lines. Drink
liberally of the everclear. Stay sober enough to realize it isn't
working. Get drunk enough not to care. Convince your wife to give up her
warm garage spot to thaw out the Rover for the night.Get the wife to help
push the rover into the garage. Nurse frozen fingers/toes.

Anyone who can perform all these activities without resorting to
drink/drugs/murder/suicide wins.

Hand Grenades:

The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch shall be kept in the holiest of places,
where it shall be kept most fresh and clean and most mighty, so that in
the hour of need, it (skip a bit, brother Maynard) When thine enemy, who,
being naughty in my sight, has snuffed it, thou shalt take his carcass
and place it on the sacred spit of St. Joan, and rotate it clockwise.
Clockwise shall be the direction of rotation, and the direction of
rotation shall be clockwise. Anticlockwise is right out. When thine
enemy, who, being the enemy who is naughty in my sight, has begun to fall
away from the bone, place him on the patented pan, and reach thou for the
tool, which, being not the slicer or the dicer, is the wondrous and
mystical Sledge O Matic of TheLord.  Crush thou thine roasted enemy with
a mighty swing of the Sledge O Matic, so that his flesh shall rain like
Manna from the heavens upon thy people, and they will feast upon it, with
their Breakfast sausages, and fruit bats, and Orang-Outangs......
                                                                         
 
Help! I've fallen and can't reach my beer...

mark                                                                     
    
                                                                         

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From: "Randall Thomas" <rthomas@prolog.net>
Subject: Alas, selling my Land Rover
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 10:15:49 -0500

There comes a time when all good things must end.  For financial reasons I
must sell my 1967 Series IIA 88".   I'm located in eastern Pennsylvania,
USA and my asking price is 8500 USD.

Background:  Restoration was started 5 years ago and is 95% complete.  Two
major phases:

Phase 1 (4-5 years ago) 
Remanufactured frame by a great shop up in the PA coal region. These guys
do VERY robust
work.  Epoxy painted and waxoiled.  It has a galvanized rear cross member. 
Vehicle was completely disassembled and:
new suspension everything,
new frame wiring harness,
rebuilt firewall (sandblasted, new floors)
all bodywork painted inside and out,
new overdrive,
new motor mounts,
new soft top and hoops,
new fuel tank, all copper lines,
new brake lines, flex hoses, master cylinder, wheel cylinders, brake
adjustors,
new clutch slave,
new 16" rims,
Michelin 7.50-16 XCH4's,
body all stainless steel fastened (except large structure/suspension bolts
of course)

I then drove it for a couple years regularly and about 20,000 miles. Then,

Phase 2, 1-2 years ago: (about 5000 miles since)
Rovers North (Charlie Haigh) rebuilt short block, .040 over,
rebuilt head for unleaded (stellite ex valves and seats) shaved for 8:1 cr,
new: distributor, intake and exhaust manifolds, 
weber 2 bbl, alloy adapter for weber to oil bath cleaner, 
radiator, waterpump, 
rebuilt transmission/transfer, (gears fine, just set up, new bearings,
reshimmed and resealed)
new clutch, pressure plate, throwout, clutch master cylinder, speedo cable,
rebuilt park brake and linkage,
new rear axle halfshafts, hub seals and races,
all drivetrain seals replaced, 
all new steering ball joints,
rebuilt steering box, starter, 
repainted frame and waxoiled inside
new fuseblock, 
Lumenition,
more more more....I just can't think of everything now.
Anyway, it goes 70 mph easily, tracks nicely, solid, and, believe it or
not, is
for all practical purposes A LEAK FREE LAND ROVER! 

What's wrong with it?
I've got a charging problem I'm tracking down, 
could use an "L" channel welded to the base of the radiator bulkhead,
(rusty spot). 
I poked a hole in one of those little frame wings under the drivers seat
(negotiating a tree stump one day) and there's a bit of rust there now.

Other than that it's great.  I've driven it daily on my 20 minute commute
and taken several long trips and a few light off roading adventures and
it's very reliable.  I am not one for
cosmetically perfect Land Rovers, but it does look good.  Color is
limestone.  Deluxe Bonnet with tyre mount, rear door and inside bulkhead
tyre mounting.  

Comes with, Koenig PTO winch (needs a base fab'd, cable and fairlead)
Hardtop (fixed glass), back door, (tailgate and hoopset is on now) lots of
good spares
like near perfect swivels, diff, new heavy duty front springs, spare wings,

(the ones on now are the bugeye type so its a 4 lamp setup) freshly
galvanized capping, new lenses, odds and ends, mudflaps, extra block,
glass, etc. etc.  
I've got over twice into it than what I'm asking.  I built this car for me,
not to sell, so great care was taken in build quality and making sure it
was done right.  All seals and gaskets are Hylomar dressed, and all parts
are genuine Land Rover.
Can be driven anywhere.

My phone # is 717-336-6637 day or night.
rthomas@ptd.net
Randall Thomas
Reinholds, PA, USA

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From: "S. Vels" <svels@mail-server.dk-online.dk>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:30:35 +0001
Subject: RE: No Subject

> From:          Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>

> Re: HHGoA:
 
> Of course it's not listed in Jane's under military armaments! You need to look 
> under the Vatican section, with a specific reference to the Book Of Attilla.

Couldn't find it there so i checked The Library of The church of 
England (http://www.episcopalian.ch.uk/references/ancient.html)

Turned out to be a complete waste of time.

rgds
sv/aurens

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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:51:40 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Norway

Adrian needed contact to uk-lro. To subscribe, send a message to

majordomo@land-rover.team.net

with the wor 

subscribe uk-lro

in the body of the message.

The green monster and the rest of the family will not be able to make it to 
Norway in 1997. On the one hand, the green monster is in bits and pieces, 
awaiting restoration by an extremely slow and unexperienced owner; on the 
other hand, July and August are out of the question for me, late May to June 
being the only possibilities. So it will be Botswana in 97 (in a rental 4wd) 
and probably Iceland in 98 (in the - by then - blue monster).
See you on the UK list!
Peter Hirsch
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 12:51:01 -0500
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Wading question

Hi all,

Had a great time through the waters last night.  It was a lot deeper
than I thought it would be.  Didn't put in wading plugs and travelled
through a 100 yard stretch of flooded road (4 - ~14 inches)--lots of
flooded out and stalled vehicles along the way--including a few known
tailgaters ; ).  Now for the question:  where all do I need to
check/change fluids following this little escapade?

Thanks

Nate

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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 11:47:34 -0700 (MST)
From: Dirk Tischer <dtischer@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Back Off

Short of caltrops and recoiless rifles... you might try wiring an airplane
landing light on a switched line to your reverse light.  It does wonders
for tailgaters at night... (please check local laws about this...)

Seriously though, if somebody's tailgating you in the right lane go ahead
and complain. But if you are holding traffic up in the left lane ---
you're breaking the law... I don't care if you're doing 80 mph... in the
left lane the faster traffic has the right of way.  When a car flashes you
its a polite (I repeat polite) way to ask you to get over.  If they flash
and you still don't get over, they're the ones who should have the
recoiless. 

The Europeans seem to be pretty good about using the left just for
passing.  Its us Americans who feel the right to pile up 40 cars
behind them creeping along in the left lane.   Sorry folks, you've hit on
a sore spot here.

Dirk Tischer
Tucson AZ

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 14:04:27 -0500
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: HylomarMylomarZylomar

>There is no reason to use anything more than good old brown sloppy 
>Permatex. It has proven itself thru the test of time.
>And don't give me any hogwash about it being eaten away by Gasahol. Good 
>Lord you're not going to FLY in your Rover are you? 
-

It's IndianHead gasket sealer for me.. which I think is now made by
Permatex.. Works fine, lasts a long time.

Cheers
Mike

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 14:04:33 -0500
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: Back off!

Larry asks..

>Couldn't we fit something of the same on all the unburnt exhaust of our
>2.25s, something like an afterburner?  Maybe would only require a sparkplug
>in the final exhaust?????
-

Ah-haa.. A Flame thrower... Used by hot-rod enthusists...

This is nasty.. You can probably get away with it on an older truck (or car)
but probably not on one of the newer ones. I haven't actually tried it
myself so I haven't a clue as to how well it works.. 

MANDATORY IDIOT WARNING! Do not try this at home. If you do, you never heard
of me. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

You need to mount a spark-plug in the side of the tailpipe (for maximum
effectivness, the tailpipe should point to the rear - not the side!)
The spark plug is hooked up straight to the HT side of a coil. Then you need
some way to turn the coil on and off to produce the spark. A doorbell
buzzer, with switch contacts that open and close would do nicely. Wire the
buzzer (or other device) in series with one LT side of the coil. The other
side should go to ground. Install a switch on the dash to turn the whole
thing on.

Now, to the fun...

When some idiot is following too close, you just kill the ignigtion for a
second or two and turn on the magic switch. Leave the truck in gear.. The
idea here is that raw gasoline goes straight through the engine and out the
exhaust. The spark plug in the tailpipe ignites it and wahoom! Burned the
balls off Bernice's sweater! Switch back on the ignigtion and you get quite
a flame out of the exhaust... heh,heh,heh..

Of course, if you don't time the sequence of events just right, you could
blow up your exhaust system.. but then, no guts, no glory!

Cheers
Mike

P.S. On the off-chance that some yahoo actually tries this, I make no
guarantees of success or failure! 

  

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 14:04:29 -0500
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: RE: No Subject

>What's fun is watching Monty Python and trying to find the Land Rovers.   
> (Of course only one of their movies had LRs in it, but I was speaking   
>more about the show.)
-
>Have I seen "Monty Python and The Holy Grail" too many times?   
>Naaaahhhh......
-

Why is it that no-one ever remebers the name of Johann Gambolputty de von
Ausfern-schplender-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-
dongle-dungle-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-
ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-grandlich-grumblemeyer-spelterwasser-
kurstlich-himbleeisen-bahnwagen-gutenhabend-bitte-ein-nurnburger-
bratwustle-gerspurten-mitz-weimach-luber-hundsfut-gumberaber-
shonendanker-kalbsfleisch-mittler-aucher von Hautkopt of Ulm?

(required LandRover content in first line of this message)

Cheers
Mike

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 14:19:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Back Off

In a message dated 96-11-09 13:57:10 EST, you write:

> Seriously though, if somebody's tailgating you in the right lane go ahead
>  and complain. But if you are holding traffic up in the left lane ---
>  you're breaking the law...

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 14:22:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Back Off (ignore previous)

Please ignore my previous posting on this topic. AOL software nailed me.
Sorry about that. I was going to comment but decided topic is not LR specific
and thus not appropriate for this list.

Regards,
David Cockey

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 15:55:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Alas, selling my Land Rover

In a message dated 96-11-09 10:38:36 EST, you write:

>There comes a time when all good things must end.  For financial reasons I
>must sell my 1967 Series IIA 88".   I'm located in eastern Pennsylvania,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>USA and my asking price is 8500 USD.
>Background:  Restoration was started 5 years ago and is 95

where in PA are you located...I may be interested....

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From: "Jan Wagemaker" <wagemaker@dataweb.nl>
Subject: colour scheme
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:08:51 +0100

On nov. 3rd I asked you all out there about the colour scheme for a '62 109
LWB I had in mind.
Well, I actually bought the thing and it's now being prepared. Since it was
a car of a fire department I decided it had to be  RED RED RED RED
(including the roof!)
All of you, thanks a lot for all the advice, great!
Jan W.

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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:49:15 -0500 (EST)
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: 6 x 6

Eric writes re how is the third axle of a 6 x 6 driven

 I have seen three methods of powering the third axle of a 6 x 6 Land Rover.
 1) a drive shaft from the PTO port, via reduction gearbox to the third
axle, thus permitting 6 x 6 ,  6 x 4   or 6x 2 usage.
2) a single input, dual output gearbox driven by the rear gearbox output
shaft thus permitting 6 x 4 or 6 x 6 only.
3) a special second axle with a rear output which then drives the third axle.
 several companies in Britain offer 6 x 6 conversions, Renolds Boughton,
Sandringham. I'm nt sure whether carmicheal offer drive on their 6 wheel
conversion axle.

 Regards  Bill leacock   Limey in exile.

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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:23:08 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Trini connection

If our colleague in Trinidad & Tobago is listening please get in touch with 
directly - I have a question about the existence of a dealership down there.
Thanks,
Allan.

  
Allan Smith
Caribbean Natural Resources Institute
Vieux Fort
St. Lucia, West Indies.
Tel +(758) 454 6060
Fax +(758) 454 5188

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:50:15 -0500
Subject: Re: 6 x 6

>From Bill Leacock on powering the third axle of a 6x6:
> 3) a special second axle with a rear output which then drives the third
axle.
>   several companies in Britain offer 6 x 6 conversions, Renolds Boughton,
>  Sandringham. I'm nt sure whether carmicheal offer drive on their 6 wheel
>  conversion axle.

We had a good look at the LR Experience 6X6 service truck at Billing. The
propshaft from the rear of the transfer case does not go directly to the
differential input of the second axle. Instead it goes to a small "transfer
case" mounted just ahead and to the side of the 2nd axle diff. That "transfer
case" provides drive to the 2nd axle diff, and a prop shaft from it goes to
the 3rd axle which was stock appearing. I should have some pictures if anyone
really needs more details. I don't know if the truck is fulltime 6x6 or 4x6
unless the 3rd axle is engaged. The case didn't look like it had any
differential capability. BTW, the military airport crash tender RR
conversions were 4x6, the third axle was just to help support the weight.

Regards,
David Cockey

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 18:59:41 -0800
From: Jeremy J Bartlett <Bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Wading question

Nathan Dunsmore wrote:
> through a 100 yard stretch of flooded road (4 - ~14 inches)snip
>where all do I need to
> check/change fluids following this little escapade?

If it was that shallow ( :) ) only the axles.

cheers,

Jeremy

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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:33:53 -0500
Subject: 'seat of the pants' advice about seat of the valves?

I'm going to pull an 8:1 head this morning and send it out to be redone. Head
will be re-worked as needed, i.e.: guides springs, etc. I've had problems
with valves cracking in the past, and given the manner in which the LR is
frequently driven, could understand, given what I've previously read here.
I'm running a weber 1 Bbl, which I question as possibly running too lean at
open throttle. I often run at 50-65 for up to an hour or more, maybe twice a
day, usually burning the cheapest petrol I can find. The last time I redid
the valves, I just put in a couple of good used ones and lapped them (all) in
with a 1/2" drill, holding them on the stem side. (Cleanliness was
maintained, head washed after). I think that the reason for that failure had
something to do with a failing water pump, and lack of adequate coolant
circulation. Oh, it's almost always #3 exhaust that goes, and on occasion
I've found that #4 is going. So, this time around, the reason for the 'head
off' is to resolve dead stem seals, of the internal type, as start ups are
often a bit embarrasing. (Yeah, I know, I could just get a badge that says
"Diesel" and glue it on prominently). I will also replace those 'cam banger
thingies' as needed. The 'new' 8:1 head has external stem seals, so I won't
gripe about the longetivity of present day replacement internal seals. I
think it may be the time that I actually go for the hardened, 'no-lead'
valves. I have yet to observe any valve seat recession evident when valve
failure has occurred. As I'm planning my course for this, I'm considering
what hardened valves and not installed hardened seats would be? Actually I
don't think the expense is that great to have them cut in, but the idea of
more parts involved is not too welcomed. I kind of like it when something
falls off a vehicle and forward momentum is maintained. So, has anyone any
experience with just the valves replaced and not cutting in new seats? Or is
this 'penny wise, pound foolish'?
see 'ya on the old road...
Jim '61 LR 88" SW  w/16's, OD 1 Bbl weber (econobox?)  "Nicky"
LR...quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised!
  Wanted-> LHD P5B any condition considered, must be in NA  
jdolan2109@aol.com

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:31:26 +0800
From: Manny Garcia <mann@epic.net>
Subject: RR Analyzer

Has anybody in the list heard of a "Test Book Analyzer" ?   It's supposed to
be a computer of some sort to analyze or troubleshoot RRs - anybody has an
idea where i can get more specs on this thing?  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Rgds to all,

Manny Garcia
mann@epic.net

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:31:32 +0800
From: Manny Garcia <mann@epic.net>
Subject: 6 Cyl Block

Hi all,

I've just found out that we are keeping (on top of our other junk...or
rather at the bottom) a 6 cyl engine block.  I also think i found the
c/shaft for it (7M/Brg).  The number on the engine is roverish - 550070.  I
couldn't find it in the LR catalogues I have.  I'm certain that somebody on
the list can ID this block (if for LR) - for which rover, year model,
probably petrol, etc.

Thanks,

Manny Garcia
mann@epic.net

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From: "S. Vels" <svels@mail-server.dk-online.dk>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:24:07 +0001
Subject: Classic Cars sI buyers guide

All

Classic Cars has a special section every month. They pick a classic 
and describe the most common pitfalls and what to look for.

I found the June 1996 (p. 163) section online:

http://www.erack.com/car/_classcar/_BUYERS/landrover.HTML

Deals with buying a series I.

CC Online:

http://www.erack.com/car/_classcar/classcarmain.htm

rgds
sv/aurens

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