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From: "Ron Franklin" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 07:24:54 -0500
Subject: Re: LR Question

On  8 Nov 96 at 10:33, Andy Woodward wrote:

 

 a large, uniform plank with a frictionless fulcrum at the exact 
 centre. Place aother tank at eactly the same distance from the 
 fulcrum. Now fill this tank with water until the plank balanced 
> exactly horizontal as judged by precision spirit level.

Put a duck into the water,
 

And if  the LR weighs the same as a duck it's a ..... a.....a witch,... yes a 
witch,... in which case the logs make a handy bonfire.
Rgds,
Ronnie
this list is a silly place.

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 08:01:47 EST
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: Tailgaters

There is a person on the list (the UK one at least) who has a sticker
(or maybe signwriting) saying your skid stops here! on the back
of his 90.

He is a little embarassed about this so I won't print his name.

Unless I am bribed of course :-)

Steve Reddock, Xyratex        |  "NEVER QUESTION AN
Ext.(01705) 486363 x4450      |   ENGINEER'S OPINION,
IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P)            |   YOU THUNDERING MORON !"
Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com  |     - Dogbert 1996

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From: bb@olivetti.dk (Bent Bohlers)
Subject: To all Danes following this list
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:03:47 +-100

English:
Tomorrows meating in the Eastern Sealand Region have been moved,
it will be in the Scouts Cabin in Broendby Vestskov instead.
Contact phone for driving instructions mobil : 40 380 150

Danish:
Moedet imorgen i reg. OestSjaelland bliver flyttet fra Dani s til 
spejderhytten i Broendby Vestskov.
Kontakttelefon for koerselsvejledning mobil : 40 380 150 

Thanks for use of the bandwith.

Happy Rovering

Bent Boehlers, Kaserer Reg. OestSj.

http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/3542/

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Floating a LR
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 08:01:00 EST

From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:09:04 -500
Subject: Resuscitation Procedure

OK, the details.  5 balsa logs, 40 cm diameter, 39C brackish
water, 110 loaded with lab equipment.  Is there a LR factory
resuscitation procedure?  M

Support from Balsa Log @ 40 cm diameter = 1kg/cm approx
Fully laden 110 = say 4000kg
4000/5/1=800 cm
5 logs 8metres long would just support the load
lets add a couple of metres for stability so five 10 metre logs
then cut them to yield 5 @ 7metres and 5 @ 3metres lashing together into a 
7x3 metre raft
Use safari door as centreboard, bonnet as rigid sail (deluxe has rolled edge 
to create aerofoil) , Sailing anyone?

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 08:20:58
From: CarDoctor@gnn.com (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: Over the Hill Camel Trophy

>Can you run a 6 minute mile???     Camel Trophy is mostly about how fit 
>you are and how strong you are mentally etc.  

  I am sure there are many physically fit drivers over the 50 years old.
However age hopefully brings wisdom & experience. Maybe the driving could 
reflect that as well.   With so many people who want to be part of the 
Camel Trophy  it only seem rational that younger strong people are 
selected.  I guess that is why I see a need for a "senior experience" 
event as well.

    
Rob Davis_Chicago

Failure is not an option
...........Not on my watch

1971 (88)  Treeweaver
1965 (109SW)  OX
1968 (109 three door)  Dad's toy (only the caretaker)
1960 MGA Coupe
1961 MGA Roadster

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Angels and Pin-heads
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 08:26:00 EST

Adrian Redmond's treatise on the EURO regs re angels omitted on essential 
observation re the US angel/pin ratio. ie they have bigger pins in Texas.

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:34:48 -0500
Subject: Dead Luminition

James Mercer inquired about his lack o'sparkage. The symptoms you describe
are classic points short-out. But, you dont have points. I once had a
Luminition system. One day the SIIA began to buck and backfire as the
iginition cut in and out. I pulled over, perplexed, the truck was barely
running and sputtering. How could this paragon of Brit. hi-tech let me down
(dont answer that)??. I fiddled with the wires from the black box to the
distributor. When I lifted the wire it began to run great again, when i
dropped it, it began to cut out. I happened to have a good set of points,
etc.. with me. I removed the optical trigger, eyeballed the point gap and it
ran great. Later I adjusted the points proper like and it stayed that way.
There was an invisible break in the red wire apparently - the insulation
looked perfect however.The insulation on mine was uncanny soft and pliable,
but they may all be like that. Having related this tale of woe I must admit I
just bought a Crane-Allison optical electronic ignition for my '83 RR to
replace the points. Havent installed it yet. It was on sale from J.C. Whitney
for $79.95 in their last sale catalog. Much cheaper than the current price of
Luminition. I'll need the better ignition system for the Holley Pro-jection
system I am going to install later this month. Cheers. Andy Blackley.

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From: "Terje Krogdahl" <terje@multix.no>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:52:35 +0100
Subject: Re: Wheel locked while driving !!!

> One wheel has obviously locked, since there's a black stripe on the road.
> By its position I'd suggest its the back right (drivers side in  Oz).
> That's what the dragging feeling was. I didn't notice this when  I was
> parked in the middle of the road, so I'm not sure which wheel.

Just a thought... could the brake shoe have shattered? I've had this happen
to me once, and on a rear wheel you might not noctice the brakes being
unbalanced.

TK
1972 SIII 88" 2.25 petrol
Member of Norwegian Land Rover Club (NLRK)
http://regina.uio.no/nlrk/

-- 
**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--**--
Terje Krogdahl              Multix A/S            Phone   +47 2206 2600
E-Mail: terje@multix.no     Lilleakerveien 31     Fax     +47 2206 2626
        support@multix.no   N-0283 OSLO, Norway   Support +47 2206 2628

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Mineral Hydraulic Fluids
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 08:41:00 EST

Mineral  hydraulic fluids are required for ABS systems. These have assorted 
valves, pumps etc that need lubrication. Silicone brake fluids are not a 
lubricant and should never be used in ABS . The fluids here also have to do 
more work than in a "normal" system and should be changed regularly as 
recommended by the system manufacturer.

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Hylomar
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 08:47:00 EST

Bill Leacock wrote "it was
made to a Rolls Royce ( Aero Engines ) specification ( if my over fifty year
old memory serves me correctly )"

Though over 50 too (But not as far!!!) I can confirm your recollection. The 
tubes used to even have the Rolls Royce logo on them. (Or maybe they were 
just the tubes I "borrowed" from work!!!)

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: New Scientist?
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 08:53:00 EST

David Cockey wrote

BTW, is Trevor a "new scientist"

No just an Old Engineer (Or was that F*%t)

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Camel Trophy
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 08:55:00 EST

Rob Davis wrote " I guess you would call it the over the "Hill
Camel Trophy".

Could that be the "Old Humpers Trophy"?

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:06:13 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Angels and Pin-heads

>Adrian Redmond's treatise on the EURO regs re angels omitted on essential
>observation re the US angel/pin ratio. ie they have bigger pins in Texas.
Yes,but dont their angels have bigger bums,too?
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: bb@olivetti.dk (Bent Bohlers)
Subject: RE: Dead Luminition?
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:09:01 +-100
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

James Mercer[SMTP:james@mips.cs.murdoch.edu.au] wrote:

Basically I have run out of spark.  More specifically, the 
coil is sparking OK, but the spark isn't making it across 
the rotor to the leads.  The rotor, leads and distributor 
cap were replaced about 1500 miles ago.

Hello!
I do not think this can be the luminition, if You have spark from the coil,
the control circuit must work, it then have to be the distribution of the 
spark that fails.

Remove the wire from the coil to the distributor at the distributor end, 
place it few mm (1/10 inch) from ground, and rev the motor with ignition on.
if there is a spark, the luminition and coil works. 
Then inspect the distributor cap carefully, are all 8 points clean, is the central 
point clean and do the spring work properly.
If OK, remount the cap and the wire from the coil. Take the wire from one of 
the sparkplugs and place it few mm (1/10 inch) from ground. try to rev the 
motor again. If there is a spark, it is OK.
Remove the sparkplug, is it nice clean ( light grey, not black og brown). 
Connect the wire to the sparkplug, place the plug with the hex-nut direct on 
ground, and try again giving it some rev s. Spark ?, Then OK. No spark? new plug.

Ground is of cause electrical ground, also called earth or frame.

Happy Rovering

Bent Boehlers, Denmark
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/3542/

------ =_NextPart_000_01BBCD8F.28D53760

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@cdr.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:33:28 +0000
Subject: Re: Hylomar

> Still available from RN, etc. Still claims to meet RR specs.
> Regards,
> David Cockey  

It's also available from your local autoparts store. Marketed by 
either Permatex or Loctite, I can't remember which.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:28:28 -500
Subject: LR Float Plan Details

I appreciate your LR float plan specifics.  The raft is to be poled
across.  Thor Heyerdahl found that once daggerboard position
and sail trim were optimized, the rudder offered neutral helm 
aboard "Kon Tiki".  I prefer a little bit of weather helm.

Also, I think it wise to assume LR side profile area as sail area.  
It offers a much larger target than the lone bonnet.  Defining the
center of effort and attaching the sheet will be challenging.  
Does anybody know the side area of a fully canvassed 110?
M      

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:35:43 -500
Subject: HylomarMylomarZylomar

I saw Hylomar last evening hanging on the Permatex rack.  I get 
baffled at those racks.  I have lately resorted to faithful #2A, 
having had trouble with a few of the silicones.  Certainly we do not 
need every flavor offered.  What do you use?  What niche does the 
Blue Hylomar fill?  BTW, I looked for the RR seal, no presence.  Might 
they be simply using the name to attract sales, what does "hylomar" 
mean anyway?  Sorry to pop in late to this topic.  Back into the sand 
I go!  M

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 9:52:22 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: HylomarMylomarZylomar

There is no reason to use anything more than good old brown sloppy 
Permatex. It has proven itself thru the test of time.
And don't give me any hogwash about it being eaten away by Gasahol. Good 
Lord you're not going to FLY in your Rover are you? 

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph Trophy owner ?

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 16:00:58 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Angels and Pin-heads

Mike Rooth wrote:
> >Adrian Redmond's treatise on the EURO regs re angels omitted on essential
> >observation re the US angel/pin ratio. ie they have bigger pins in Texas.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> Cheers
> Mike Rooth
NO folks - that's where you are wrong!!!! As anyone knows, angels, even
the common-or-guardian variety, are of no fixed nationality, and since
the Philistine Convention of 1257 BC angels have been subject to
stringent size limitations, including butt area. This was due to the
predominant use of angels in charoits, which like english rugby-teams in
109's had to be limited as a result of several unluck chariot accidents.

Therefore, to the best of my knowledge (Dixon correct me if I am wrong)
Texan angels have the same butt-area footprint as any other angels!
-- 
adrian redmond

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CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
tel: +45 86 57 22 66  e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk

1:	Series III 1976 109" D Pick-up
2:	Series III 1979  88" D Hard top (Icelander)
---------------------------------------------------
"Two SIII Land Rovers are more reliable than one!"
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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 16:04:42 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Wheel locked while driving !!!

Terje Krogdahl wrote:
> > One wheel has obviously locked, since there's a black stripe on the road.
> > By its position I'd suggest its the back right (drivers side in  Oz).
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 20 lines)]
> E-Mail: terje@multix.no     Lilleakerveien 31     Fax     +47 2206 2626
>         support@multix.no   N-0283 OSLO, Norway   Support +47 2206 2628

Hej terje, (hermed en hilsen fra Danmark)

Have you read the postings here in the last few days about the trip I'm
trying to get together to Norway next summer - Denmark to Nordkap over
three weeks or so?

Could this be of interest to you, and others in the NRLK - any contacts
which you or the club have would be welcome.

If you missed the postings, I'll send you some again!

god weekend! landroverlige hilsner! 
-- 
adrian redmond

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CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
tel: +45 86 57 22 66  e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk

1:	Series III 1976 109" D Pick-up
2:	Series III 1979  88" D Hard top (Icelander)
---------------------------------------------------
"Two SIII Land Rovers are more reliable than one!"
---------------------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 07:58:36 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: Over the Hill Camel Trophy

>>Can you run a 6 minute mile???     Camel Trophy is mostly about how fit

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)]
>event as well.
>Rob Davis_Chicago
Rob,

        With the over 50 vintage years not too far away for me, I share the
desire to show what experience can do. However, working closly with the
Camel Trophy guys and the USA Team Leader, Tom Collins, with great
regularity over the last few years makes me glad I'm not going to compete.
Of late the competitors should be checked for bionic limbs - they are
simply unbelievable atheletes.
        These days on Camel, the driving is secondary to the physical
tests. The requirement for youth goes beyond mere physical strength and
endurance. Living almost entiresly without sleep for weeks, being exposed
to a mutitude of vermin, bacteria and noxious what-have-yous is for younger
bods. Experience has shown that older men are less immune to this. Also,
experience has shown that younger joints (especially knees) are better
suited. Many older athletic types have old "football injuries" or "war
wounds" that can come unglued in a really tough situation.
        Tom says that the ideal age for him is late 20s early 30s. The bod
hasn't gone away yet but the life experience is there to get them over the
tough stuff. Even the young folks with injuries are prone to this and
anyone with a potential problem is nixed from the field.
        In fact, a "Senior's Camel Trophy" has been talked about on several
occasions. Funding and organization are the main drawbacks but there seem
to be plenty of willing not-so-over-the-hill volunteers like yourself. Of
course, the big problem for most potential participants is devoting the
time. Even the young studs have trouble making the two month
away-from-family-and-work commitment.
        Well, we can dream at least!

Jim Allen

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 09:30:54 -0600
From: "Herman L. Stude" <hermans@krts.com>
Subject: Re: Angels and Pin-heads

I'm afraid Adrian that Mike Roth's observation about Angels' butt-area 
footprint being larger in Texas is correct...

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 10:30:45 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Camel pissing contest...

I can't speak for others, but I think I have plenty of challenges in my 
life without taking on a bunch more in the form of a two month long 
mosquito-slap. To those of you with too much time on your hands, come 
over to my house and I'll put you to work!

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph Trophy owner ?

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:51:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Angels and Pin-heads

On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Adrian Redmond wrote:

> Therefore, to the best of my knowledge (Dixon correct me if I am wrong)
> Texan angels have the same butt-area footprint as any other angels!

	Unfortunately, this is not the case.  Texas has long been in
	violation of the Philistine Convention as a result of an
	agreement they entered into with one Mr. Mephistophilis after
	Alaska entered the union of states.  It is understood that
	Texas desired to stay the biggest, despite the fact that
	Alaska angels were slightly larger that Texan angels, as everything
	else is in that state is slightly larger.  While there have been
	rumblings within the Americas over this violation, only Cuba
	has filed a protest, which raised the ire of the Texans, who
	promptly dragged the USA into a policy of isolating Cuba so that
	knowledge of Texan wrongdoings does not spread futher.

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From: "S. Vels" <svels@mail-server.dk-online.dk>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:53:07 +0001
Subject: RE: No Subject

> From:          "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@bestinforsg.com>

> P.S. Hopefully we won't have to use the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch to   
> exise the demon.

If you must, be shure to read the manual carefully. The demon might 
get bored, pack his kit and leave.

I checked Jane's Autoelectro Selfdefence. The publication contains 
no information of the Mk-I HHGoA.

rgds
sv/aurens

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From: "S. Vels" <svels@mail-server.dk-online.dk>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:53:07 +0001
Subject: Re: A Puzzlement...('60)

> From:          nahari ofir <ofir_n@parker.inter.net.il>

> a Zundup ( DKW ?)
Zundapp (u=umlaut)
> a German motorbikes manufacturer which switched to low cost ,feul efficient car

BMW made what was called a "cabin scooter" which opened in the front.
"Isetta" as the name.

Isetta, Messy and Goggomobil was part of the backbone of the 
wirtschaftswunder (along with a cash injection from Uncle sam).

Our landies are now in the same family with Isetta. Wonder what 
mother in law looks like?

rgds
sv/aurens

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From: "S. Vels" <svels@mail-server.dk-online.dk>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:53:07 +0001
Subject: Re: LR Chefs Rotisserie

> pig at 600 rpm or so... This would be quite a sight...

Reminds me of my fat math teacher at school when she got real mad. 

rgds
sv/aurens

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From: "Gary Thomson" <gthomson@mlnetworks.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: highway speed
Date: 	Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:24:30 -0000

> >then is this: Inevitably a vehicle approaching from the rear attempts to

> take a "break scare" seriously and personally...  I know that if someone
> flashed a light at me, I'd pull back and put on my brights just to get
> even...

Forget all this getting even... flashing lights... brake lights etc.. etc..

Just Ignore All Tailgaters!

Like the sticker says "Your skid stops here!" so why worry?

Gary.
gthomson@mlnetworks.co.uk
'83 Series III SWB

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:23:31 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Angels and Pin-heads

>I'm afraid Adrian that Mike Roth's observation about Angels' butt-area
>footprint being larger in Texas is correct...

Thank you Herman......
Which of course prompts the question,which came first,Pin Heads,or
Angels Arses?
And also,How can a bum have a foot print.And its cheating to answer
when its been kicked.*I* thought of that first!!
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:31:31 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: highway speed

>Like the sticker says "Your skid stops here!" so why worry?
>Gary.

Because of all the confounded paperwork involved if the clot
hits you!!

Mike Rooth

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 11:32:54 -0500
From: Brad F Worls <bworls@ovnet.com>
Subject: Re: LR Question

Hey all,
	While reading about this years Trophy I believe they had to "Float" the
110's using a portable ferry with out boadrs.  I believe it was a
pontoon and perferated aluminum planking with twin outboards.  I can't
say for sure as my evil twin seems to have stolen the mag.  It was
either 4 wheel & off-road or four wheeler.
		Brad

bworls@ovnet.com

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  8 Nov 96 11:40:59 EST
Subject: RE: No Subject

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From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@bestinforsg.com>
Subject: RE: No Subject
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 11:55:00 PST

What's fun is watching Monty Python and trying to find the Land Rovers.   
 (Of course only one of their movies had LRs in it, but I was speaking   
more about the show.)

Douglas Boehme
'95 Red D90 #2767

Re: HHGoA:

Of course it's not listed in Jane's under military armaments! You need to
look
under the Vatican section, with a specific reference to the Book Of   
Attilla.

And I quote, under the section marked "Operation of the device";

"First, thou shalt pullest the pin from thy Holy hand Grenade, then thou
shalt
countest to three.

No more, no less.

Three shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting
shall
be three. Four thou shalt not count, nor shalt thou count two, save that   
thou
proceedest directly to three.

Five is right out.

Once three, being the number of the counting, shall be reached, thou   
shalt
lobbest thy Holy Hand Grenade towards thy foe, who being naughty in My   
sight,
shall snuff it..."

Have I seen "Monty Python and The Holy Grail" too many times?   
Naaaahhhh......

     ajr

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:52:04 -500
Subject: Camel Float-O-Noooooooo!

110 Float using  Aluminium? Outboard engines?!?
Whatever happened to using indigenous material?
Whas this world come to!!!!!
Mark

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 08:56:36 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re4: Angels and Pin-heads

At 10:51 AM 11/8/96, Dixon Kenner <dkenner@NRCan.gc.ca> wrote:
>	Unfortunately, this is not the case.  Texas has long been in
>	violation of the Philistine Convention as a result of an
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>	promptly dragged the USA into a policy of isolating Cuba so that
>	knowledge of Texan wrongdoings does not spread futher.

 These events are well documented in the Philistine Chronicles as revealed
 in written materials discovered in Whacko after the incineration, where
 the few indentifiable items remaining were indeed Pin-heads, although alas
 the inhabitants have long been reduced to Angels and promptly flown to the
 Bureau of Incarceration for isolation, further examination and measurement.

 Your savant of vanquished history,

-MC

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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:01:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 6x6 Land Rovers....

A question that may well be answered by our UK members....
I've seen many incarnations of 6 wheel Land Rovers, but never anything about how 
they work technically.  The only one I've ever seen up close had the rear axle 
as a tag-along, without power.  I've heard that true 6x6 Rovers were produced 
but I haven't yet been able to figure out how they powered the third axle.  One 
option would be the same as the powered trailer with the LT95 
transmission...another driveshaft going to the rear axle.
Is this how it was done?  Or was there a special axle? How is axle articulation? 
Questions, questions....

Eric

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:00:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Murray <murraycm@bc.edu>
Subject: Parts Questions 

Hello!

#1.  Does anyone have the number for jc whitney? i lost my catalog.

#2  For those of you in the u.s., has anyone had any experience 
dealing with john craddock's in england.  i was told by someone to 
do everything by fax, but either my fax is not getting thru or 
they really don't care about my order.  Any suggestions?

#3.  Does anyone have an extra rear door tire mount they would 
like to sell?

Thanks!

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:57:51 -0800 (PST)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Parts Questions 

On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Chris Murray wrote:

> #2  For those of you in the u.s., has anyone had any experience 
> dealing with john craddock's in england.  i was told by someone to 
> do everything by fax, but either my fax is not getting thru or 
> they really don't care about my order.  Any suggestions?

I've ordered from the US by phone (paid by credit card): good service and
the opportunity to speak to a real person with an English accent is much
more pleasant than waiting around a fax machine for a "confirmed" sheet to
be spit out.

Best wishes,
David Rosenbaum

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:13:45 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Norway

If I may add my 0.02 to Adrian's excellent proposal:
Try and include Svartisen (north of Mo i Rana - largest glacier on the 
continent, and very accessible), and maybe a side trip to the Lofoten 
islands (west of Narvik, you can drive all the way, no ferry involved). 
These were my favourites in Norway. I am sure many people will come up with 
many better suggestions, and you will need to take three months off.

Actually, Adrian, wouldn't you get more response from uk-lro? If you are not 
subscribed I can post something for you. Let me know.
Envious in Vienna
Peter Hirsch
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:13:43 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: English

Ron Franklin quoted:

>Sign in an Austrian hotel catering to skiers:
>Not to perambulate the corridors in the hours of repose in the boots of 
>ascension.

The syntax looks definitely Italian to me, I would be very surprised if this 
was really Austrian/German to start with. We would probably put it like:

During the resting hours is the aroundwalking in the walks with 
climbingshoes strictliest verboten!!!!

As for learning German because of the new LR management: They would not 
understand you, they are all from Bavaria.

Servus allseits (und ganz besonders Franz ;>))
Peter Hirsch
Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 21:10:43 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Angels and Pin-heads and Highway robbers

Dixon Kenner wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Adrian Redmond wrote:
> > Therefore, to the best of my knowledge (Dixon correct me if I am wrong)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)]
>         promptly dragged the USA into a policy of isolating Cuba so that
>         knowledge of Texan wrongdoings does not spread futher.

OK, I take it back and stand corrected!

That must be why the Series vehicles were available in a 98" and 119"
wheelbase versions for Texas only?

Both vehicles supplied with 2.75 diesel or 2.92 cc petrol engine?

By the way - did you Know that a "Landrøver" in Danish means a highway
robber?
-- 
adrian redmond

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CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
tel: +45 86 57 22 66  e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk

1:	Series III 1976 109" D Pick-up
2:	Series III 1979  88" D Hard top (Icelander)
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"Two SIII Land Rovers are more reliable than one!"
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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 21:12:14 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Angels and Pin-heads

Mike Rooth wrote:
> >I'm afraid Adrian that Mike Roth's observation about Angels' butt-area
> >footprint being larger in Texas is correct...
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
> Cheers
> Mike Rooth
On the other hand..... if Texan angels have bigger butts, don't they
also have bigger pin-heads?
-- 
adrian redmond

---------------------------------------------------
CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
tel: +45 86 57 22 66  e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk

1:	Series III 1976 109" D Pick-up
2:	Series III 1979  88" D Hard top (Icelander)
---------------------------------------------------
"Two SIII Land Rovers are more reliable than one!"
---------------------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:09:09 -0500 (EST)
From: 12/4/95 <rsloan@titan.liunet.edu>
Subject: Back off!

It's a dirty world out there, and sometimes you've got to fight back.  A 
101 recoiless rifle is the trick.  Mount that sucker in the back, leave 
the high lift home, and rig it so it fires on two taps of the brakes.  It 
might help getting up those long hills too.

You might also get a hold of some caltrops.  What, are caltrops, you 
ask?  Medeival foot soldiers used 'em to bugger up cavalry charges.  
Picture a handful of children's jacks with those little round balls 
ground off.  Toss a few out behind you and I gaurantee you won't be 
dealing with ANY tailgaters for quite some time.

A dead fish slapping into the offenders windshield is another way of 
saying back off quite effectively.  I could go on...

Rich
D90

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 22:21:24 +0200
From: Rob Fisher <rob@dbn.lia.net>
Subject: Subscribe

subscribe

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rob@dbn.lia.net - Web http://www.dbn.lia.net
Phone +27(31)705-4767 Fax +27(31)705-2031
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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 12:30:41 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Back off!

At 03:09 PM 11/8/96, "12/4/95" aka Rick Sloan <rsloan@titan.liunet.edu> wrote:
:It's a dirty world out there, and sometimes you've got to fight back.  A 
:101 recoiless rifle is the trick.  Mount that sucker in the back, leave 
:the high lift home, and rig it so it fires on two taps of the brakes.  It 
:might help getting up those long hills too.
:
:You might also get a hold of some caltrops.  What, are caltrops, you 
:ask?  Medeival foot soldiers used 'em to bugger up cavalry charges.  
:Picture a handful of children's jacks with those little round balls 
:ground off.  Toss a few out behind you and I gaurantee you won't be 
:dealing with ANY tailgaters for quite some time.
:
:A dead fish slapping into the offenders windshield is another way of 
:saying back off quite effectively.  I could go on...

 Rick!

 What color is your D90?  What part of the country are you in??
 I'd like to know so that we can stay out of your way!! (Sheeesh :)

                       ______
 Michael Carradine     [__[__\==                    Rupert 72-88, ?? 89-RR
 510-988-0900          [________]            Land-Rover Rough+Plushmobiles
 cs@crl.com _________.._(o)__.(o)____...o^^^    www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 15:36:30 -0500
From: NateDunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Wahoo! Rover Weather!

Since I've been at work, it's been raining like a banshee!  Sounds like
a lot of flooding in low lying areas (ie my route home!)

Sometimes it pays to go to work.
-- 
Nate Dunsmore
88" SIIa ("The Blue Brick" http://members.aol.com/naddmd/first.htm )
dunsmo19@us.net

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 12:52:43 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Angels and Pin-heads

At 09:12 PM 11/8/96 -0800, Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> wrote:
>On the other hand..... if Texan angels have bigger butts, don't they
>also have bigger pin-heads?

 Adrian,                Land Rover content
                        /
 Texans have bigger "N"uts, not butts, and yes it stands to reason that
 their p*ni have bigger heads! (This thread has degenerated beyond reproach)

 Over and out,

                       ______
 Michael Carradine     [__[__\==                    Rupert 72-88, ?? 89-RR
 510-988-0900          [________]            Land-Rover Rough+Plushmobiles
 cs@crl.com _________.._(o)__.(o)____...o^^^    www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:16:31 -0500
Subject: Chassis and bulkhead FS in PA

OVLR member Dave, never-miss-a-rover, Stauffer has for sale a SIII 5 door 6
cyl bulkhead including wiring harness gauges etc. for about $400 and The
chassis from the same truck reputedly quite solid for $500
His PHONE number is 717 626 4845 and he is located in Pennsylvania about 20
minutes north of Lancaster 
As of the moment he has no e-mail.
These parts have nothing to do with me I am only posting them here as a
favor.
Rgds Quintin Aspin

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 16:23:26 -0500
From: Brad F Worls <bworls@ovnet.com>
Subject: Re: Back off!

If the tailgater is close enough to the hitch, one might ask one's
passenger to open the safari door and relieve himself on the ofenders
bonnet.  Preferably not the kind that would resemble window cleaner, but
instead resembles brown paste wax!  That ought to at least confuse them
depending on who ones passenger is and what they look like. (ie One Big
A** Hairy verticle smile spitting paste wax.) >;)
		Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!
			Brad
bworls@ovnet.com

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 16:26:01 -0500
From: Brad F Worls <bworls@ovnet.com>
Subject: Re: Chassis and bulkhead FS in PA

Hello,
	would OVLR possibly be short for Ohio Valley Land Rover???? If would
someone please give me some contact info.
	Thanks in advance.
		Brad

bworls@ovnet.com
Wheeling

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 22:35:56 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: Norway

lopezba@atnet.at wrote:
> If I may add my 0.02 to Adrian's excellent proposal:
> Try and include Svartisen (north of Mo i Rana - largest glacier on the
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)]
> Envious in Vienna
> Peter Hirsch
> Series One 107in Station Wagon (in bits and pieces)

Hi Peter - thanks for the mail

have you the address for the uk-lri net - is that run by major too? How
does one subscribe?

Any chance of your 1000 yr old series making it to Scandinavia?

I am glad for any help or advice you can offer! Thanks!
-- 
adrian redmond

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CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
tel: +45 86 57 22 66  e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk

1:	Series III 1976 109" D Pick-up
2:	Series III 1979  88" D Hard top (Icelander)
---------------------------------------------------
"Two SIII Land Rovers are more reliable than one!"
---------------------------------------------------

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:00:12 -0500
Subject: Birmabright Brotherhood List

Trevor: Got the list. Thanks for your efforts and dilligence in maintaining
the list.(applause here). Reading it I was struck by the thought that an
interesting travelogue (not to mention psych. case study) could be made by
visiting each member, their locale, biography etc. A fantasy vacation.
Cheers. Andy Blackley 

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:16:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Chassis and bulkhead FS in PA

On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Brad F Worls wrote:

> Hello,
> 	would OVLR possibly be short for Ohio Valley Land Rover???? If would
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
> bworls@ovnet.com
> Wheeling
OVLR.....old virgins love rum????  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers to some....
I see that you are from Wheeling...Hmmmmmm Wheeling is quite close  to
Pittsburgh..1 hr or so??. There are about 8-10 active owners
here in town...how many there in Wheeling???

Russ W.
67 rhd 88
P-burgh

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:19:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Back off!

On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Brad F Worls wrote:

> If the tailgater is close enough to the hitch, one might ask one's
> passenger to open the safari door and relieve himself on the ofenders
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
> 			Brad
> bworls@ovnet.com
Hmmm I usually just gradually slow down....slower, and slower and
slower...  People can be such idiots when driving.  I'm slow I know it
that's why I stay in the right lane and let others pass.  But there is
always one chump in every crown who just has to ride your bumper.

Russ W.

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From: MHKINGER@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:44:33 -0500
Subject: Re: hydraulic fluid

When mineral oil is specified it is usually due to insure seal compatability
need. Some hydraulic fluid can cause seal damage in pumps, valves and
cylinders. You can contact a reputable oil supplier and they can help you get
the correct fluid per the spec.
Mike

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 16:51:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: "G. Warren Smith" <gwsmith@selu.edu>
Subject: Tires for 109

Its time to get some new tires for Lurch, my 1965 Series IIA Dormobile 109.
Since purchasing the vehicle in 1967, I've used only Michelin 7.50x16 XY
(original eqiupment) and XZY.  However, some of my spares are now 25 years
old and the rest aren't in great shape anymore.  The problem is that these
tires don't seem to be made anymore (dealer located a handful somewhere in
Texas at $ 255 each).  What has been anyone's experience with the Michelin
XPS?  How do they compare with Goodrich AT?  Any recommendations,
alternatives, or advice from the net would be appreciated. Happy Rovering!
Dr. G. Warren Smith,
Honors Professor of Arts and Sciences
Southeastern Louisiana University
SLU 942
Hammond, LA  70402

gwsmith@selu.edu

(504) 549-3695
(504) 549-3595 FAX

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:55:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Norway

Did a trip from Bergen up the coast to Artic Circle, back to Mo i Rani, over
to Sweden and back down thru Denmark to Germany in 1981.  BEAUTIFUL!!

Just for a kick, we had to stop in Hell, on the west coast of Norway.  Yes, I
have postcards from Hell.

While the Autobahn in Germany is designated a European highway and is up to
eight lanes in some places with unlimited speedlimits, some parts of the "E"
system in Norway are two lane gravel roads with roadtrain trucks kicking up
lots of windscreen breaking rocks.

FWIW,

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:55:36 -0500
Subject: Re: English

Problem is probably from the SudTirol where the citizens are actually
Austrian and German under Italian occupation.  Boy was it ever fun to see a
native "screw" with someone from Milan or Turin by answering in German when
spoken to in Italian.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA 

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:08:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Back off!

I always liked what Johnny Carson had in one of his monologues some 20 years
ago.  He wanted to install a life sized manekin (sp) of John Wayne in Marine
battle dress with a flame thrower (ala "Sand of Iwo Jima") in the trunk
(boot) of his car.  When someone was tailgating, Carson wanted to be able to
press a button which would cause "John" to rise from the boot and light off
the offending driver.

Couldn't we fit something of the same on all the unburnt exhaust of our
2.25s, something like an afterburner?  Maybe would only require a sparkplug
in the final exhaust?????  A glow plug (preheater) from a "waddy oiler"
(always wondered what the term meant and where it came from)????

Course, you could always go for the "pilots' relief tube", ala fighter
aircraft.  Instead of venting into a reservoir in the airframe, it could be
vented out thru the rear cross member.  Would give new meaning to "pissing
off" errrr "on" the tailgater.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 01:19:23 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: hi bernating?

Hi

i know you folks have got snow already, but are you really hibernating?
will I hear from you before the thaw?

hope so, really do!

I miss the poet from paris Road!

ada

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:33:21 -0500
Subject: Re: OVLR initials

Brad posted:

<<Hello,
 would OVLR possibly be short for Ohio Valley Land Rover???? If would someone
please give me some contact info.
 Thanks in advance.
  Brad
bworls@ovnet.com>>

Yeah, not to be confused with the Ohio Valley Leftist Republicans, or the Old
Vintage Lamb Roasters...

Actually it is the Ottawa Valley Land Rover club. Contact Dixon at:
dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:33:10 -0500
Subject: Danish on the lro...

For the benefit of Danish LRO's, Bent wrote:

<<Moedet imorgen i reg. OestSjaelland bliver flyttet fra Dani s til 
spejderhytten i Broendby Vestskov.
Kontakttelefon for koerselsvejledning mobil : 40 380 150>>

Does that come with a side of fries and a medium coke?

pat.
93  110

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:33:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Back off

Brad wrote:

<<If the tailgater is close enough to the hitch, one might ask one's
passenger to open the safari door and relieve himself on the ofenders
bonnet.>>

I have a similar, *dealer installed*, option on my 110. The 110 has a rear
washer/wiper on the rear door and when I got it from the dealer, the black
thingy above the door, on the back of the roof that hold the water
squirters-- was broken. So when I push the wash button on the dash, I see a
8-10 foot stream coming from my roof.

I never had it fixed since I have so much fun with it. I've shot over
convertibles' windshields, etc. ...  Next on the list of mods is a high
pressure pump (from headlight washers of audi/bmw/porsche) and maybe a
separate reservoir for (brake fluid?) some other liquid...

pat "giving free bonnet washes to taigaters" parsons
93  110

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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:58:59 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: hydraulic fluid

On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, MHKINGER@aol.com wrote:

>When mineral oil is specified it is usually due to insure seal compatability
>need. Some hydraulic fluid can cause seal damage in pumps, valves and
>cylinders. You can contact a reputable oil supplier and they can help you get
>the correct fluid per the spec.

Thanks for the response. The reason my tractor-owning and I hope 
soon-to-be-LR-owning friend asked is that he had called every supplier on the 
island and no one had any idea what mineral hydraulic fluid is. Are ordinary 
DOT3 & DOT4 brake fluids  "mineral" (as opposed to silicone) or is this a 
completely different type of fluid?  
Sorry for the ignorance but the oil/petrol/diesel distributors here are not 
given the background to their products. For example, Shell finally began selling 
a synthetic engine oil but chose the grade least suited to this climate, a 5W- 
something - I'll take some on my next Antarctic expedition, its good to minus a 
lot centigrade.

Cheers,
Allan

Allan Smith
Caribbean Natural Resources Institute
Vieux Fort
St. Lucia, West Indies.
Tel +(758) 454 6060
Fax +(758) 454 5188

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:06:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Parts Questions (Craddock) 

> #2  For those of you in the u.s., has anyone had any experience 
>  dealing with john craddock's in england.  i was told by someone to 
>  do everything by fax, but either my fax is not getting thru or 
>  they really don't care about my order.  Any suggestions?

Its been a year or so since I last delt with Craddock but have had good
experiences. My proceedure is to fax a request for quote first. Have always
had a reply witin a day. Then I've faxed the order and it has shown up
several days later. They don't reply separate of shipping the order. The
order just shows up on the doorstep. I'm sure a direct phone call will also
work. Just remember the time difference, 5 hrs ahead of EST. One caution with
Craddock and other suppliers; unless "Genuine LR" is specified don't be
suprised if parts are aftermarket ("pattern"). BTW, surface mail from England
can be very slow, literally months. Air is recommended.

David Cockey
Rochester, Michigan

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:34:04 -0500
Subject: 600 RPM Chicken

On Wed, 6 November you wrote: "A chicken or pig at 600 rpm or so.  This
would be quite a sight.  At the Birthday Party we have used a capstan winch,
a rear pto winch, and rear drum belt pto unit to do this in the past."

Dixon:

Could you possibly have mis-understood my admittedly terse instructions?
The Land Rover hand crank rotisserie is intended to be turned by hand!

600 RPM is too fast for chickens, pigs, jackalopes or dogs.  At this speed
all of the meat drippings would be flung away and lost.  What then would you
use to make the gravy?  Also please note that prior to serving the cooked
meat, you should remove the bailing wire which held the meat onto the hand
crank rotisserie.

You are, however, to be credited for your creativity in adapting a power
driven system.  You might wish to submit this design to the engineering
department of the Cafe Boeuf as an improvement.

Bon Apetit,

Paul Donohue
1965 LR Dormobile

"Life is too short to eat a bad meal"

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 21:03:18 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Steering stabilizers

I own a complete set of UAP/NAPA catalogues and while looking through 
them this evening, I came across a reference to the steering stabilizer 
used on Land Rovers.  This info may only apply to the Canadian stores so 
check it out if you want one.  In catalogue UNS-95, same as UNS-96 on 
page 159, is the stabilizer under part number 6802SE.  The bracked tit is 
part number 1322.  The same numbers are given for the Mitsubishi 1/2 ton 
Truck 1982 to 1983.  The Land Rover shows 1959 to 1981.  The Montero 1989 
is the same stabilizer but the bracket is different.  Isuzu Trooper and 
Rodeo uses the same stabilizer but a different bracket.  The JEEP 
Commando/Jeepster is also the same but a different bracket. The IHC Metro 
and the IHC Travelall, Travelette and Wagonmaster, and the GMC 1967-87 K 
and V series 4 x 4 Pickup and Suburbon.  There are more, but I have put 
these in just in case you have a wreck you can take the stabilizer off.  
The bracket is the same on the Jeep Gladiator and Pioneer 1947-83 the 69 
Scout and others.  All this means, that you should be able to go to a 
local wrecking yard and get a steering stabilizer without putting out a 
lot of money for a "real" Land Rover one.  I will try to find other parts 
that are a good swap.  Dave VE4PN

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:02:57 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Over the Hill CT

>Can you run a 6 minute mile???

To which I would add "in the dark with a compass."  No, the CT is something 
for *young* knees.  If you have a copy of the Siberia CT, Fred Monsees 
stumbles across the finish line after one partucularly brutal run.  If you 
listen closely, you can hear him mutter, "...would rather go to the 
dentist...." before he collapses on the ground.

However, there is a US version that will probably be carried over for 
another year.  It's called "Trek '96" and is basically a mini-Camel with 
teams from dealerships around the country.  Get to be *real* good friends 
with the local Centre, and maybe they'll let you play.  Still plenty 
rough...nightime orienteering, etc.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 21:03:18 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Steering stabilizers

I own a complete set of UAP/NAPA catalogues and while looking through 
them this evening, I came across a reference to the steering stabilizer 
used on Land Rovers.  This info may only apply to the Canadian stores so 
check it out if you want one.  In catalogue UNS-95, same as UNS-96 on 
page 159, is the stabilizer under part number 6802SE.  The bracked tit is 
part number 1322.  The same numbers are given for the Mitsubishi 1/2 ton 
Truck 1982 to 1983.  The Land Rover shows 1959 to 1981.  The Montero 1989 
is the same stabilizer but the bracket is different.  Isuzu Trooper and 
Rodeo uses the same stabilizer but a different bracket.  The JEEP 
Commando/Jeepster is also the same but a different bracket. The IHC Metro 
and the IHC Travelall, Travelette and Wagonmaster, and the GMC 1967-87 K 
and V series 4 x 4 Pickup and Suburbon.  There are more, but I have put 
these in just in case you have a wreck you can take the stabilizer off.  
The bracket is the same on the Jeep Gladiator and Pioneer 1947-83 the 69 
Scout and others.  All this means, that you should be able to go to a 
local wrecking yard and get a steering stabilizer without putting out a 
lot of money for a "real" Land Rover one.  I will try to find other parts 
that are a good swap.  Dave VE4PN

------------------------------

From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:10:28 -0500
Subject: Re:what's that noise?...

On Friday, Nov. 8, Claculon from the crab neubla wrote:
"xr-LHi*]
xc"ssPQ^Bxi%a#|Qxj'x]eCo^R^YOiqe)AEh"xEaAU?ALo^Haom'?s,x=Axx^AUiw\yYYY//...."
 
>>Additional text deleted by Major Bromo<<

Hey! That lunar Rover you 'found' is official government property! Quit
chasing bunnies with the damn thing, and don't leave it with an empty tank!
see 'ya on the old road...
Jim '61 LR 88" SW  w/ 16's, OD 1 Bbl weber (econobox?)  "Nicky"
LR...quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised!  

------------------------------

From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:27:48 -0500
Subject: dead lumenition

Does the Lumenition have a plate that grounds to the inside of the
distributor? Because it sounds like a ground problem from your description.
Tighten all plates and grounds in the ignition system and see what happens.

Good Luck
Alex Maiolo
69 IIa
89 Rangie

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 21:32:13 +1100 (EST)
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: angels

Those interested in Angels and pins may like
to make pilgrimage to the birth place of William of Ockham,
map: http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeMML/Notes/Ockham.html
It's not far from Dunsfold.

And for some Land Rover content ... how does one mount a winch
onto a Discovery with crush-cans in the front of the chassis,
or am I in error about where these c.c.'s are?

Lloyd

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