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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:03:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Running Problems-It's not the Carb!

 You need to check for vacuum leaks. The method I use is effective but a
little dangerous. Get a can of carb cleaner, the old flammable stuff works
best, and with the engine running, spray the carb cleaner at all the joints
and hoses connected with the intake manifold. Pay particular attention to the
intake manifold gasket. If you find a leak the engine note will change, most
likely a increase in rpms. The other thing to try is to check the brake
booster, if fitted, for vacuum leaks. Failing all this check: Valve
adjustment, Ign timing, and ign advance, both mechanical and vacuum. 
Rgds Quintin Aspin

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:50:00 +0100
From: "Geoffrey Said" <Geoffrey.Said@magnet.mt>
Subject: NADA

Sorry for the silly question but could someone tell me what NADA stands for?

geoffrey

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: The scam-Truncated
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 08:20:00 DST

Oops, I forgot to take out the "forwarded" tags. But you got it from Bruce 
anyway.
BTW please call me at 809-555-1313. Miss Golightly needs an infusion of cash

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 18 Oct 96  8:11:59 EDT
Subject: Re: NADA

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:06:12 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: NADA

>NADA = North American Dollar Area - basically that was the LR export
>classification for the US and Canada.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>classification for the US and Canada.
>     ajr
I beleive its also Spanish for "nothing".Draw your own conclusions:-)
Mike Rooth

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From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@bestinforsg.com>
Subject: RE: reluctant shift 1st to 2nd
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:05:00 PDT

For me, I get the smoothest shift from 1st to 2nd at 2000 RPM.

Douglas Boehme
'95 Red D90 #2767

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From:  LRO-Owner[SMTP:LRO-Owner@playground.sun.com]
Sent:  Wednesday, October 16, 1996 11:03 PM
Subject:  Re: reluctant shift 1st to 2nd

Rich wrote:
> I'd be interested to know what the shifting patterns
> of other LRO's are.

I usually shift my D90 at around 3100-3300 RPM.  I read that maximum
torque is generated at 3100, so I don't usually see a need to push too
far beyond (execept maybe when getting on a highway). I haven't had
problems shifting from 1st to 2nd.  I used to have a catch when shifting
into 4th which would keep the gears from fully engaging, but as the
transmission has broken in (now at 16,500 miles), that seems to have
gone away. I do have the earlier transmission, the LT77.  I think they
switched to the R380 somewhere in the middle of the 1994 production run.

Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
rruffer@world2u.com
'94 D90 (#634 with an LT77)

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:41:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: NADA

On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Geoffrey Said wrote:

> Sorry for the silly question but could someone tell me what NADA stands for?

	North American Dollar Area.

	Technically all vehicles sold over here were NADA's, but the term
	is generally reserved for the 811 6 cylinder 109 station wagons 
	that were sold here in the mid/late 1960's.

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:23:07 -0400
From: David_R@mindspring.com (David Russell)
Subject: Safari Guard/My wife made me do it

Does Safari Guard make parts for Series Vehicles? If so, how can I get more
info about them.

After attending the Mid-Atlantic Rally (THANKS again, Sandy)with me, my
wife is making me buy a 1969 SerIIA 88". I'll post more info when the Rover
has arrived. This is not a joke.

David Russell
soon-to-be first-time Land Rover owner.

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:32:10 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: Safari Guard/My wife made me do it

David Russell wrote:

> After attending the Mid-Atlantic Rally (THANKS again, Sandy)with me, my
> wife is making me buy a 1969 SerIIA 88". I'll post more info when the Rover
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> David Russell
> soon-to-be first-time Land Rover owner.

I was looking for a 109" when my wife saw the blue brick.  She was
instantly
in love and insisted that I should get it.  Never argue with your wife ;
> After attending the Mid-Atlantic Rally (THANKS again, Sandy)with me, my
-- 
Nate Dunsmore
88" SIIa ("The Blue Brick" http://members.aol.com/naddmd/first.htm )
dunsmo19@us.net

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:04:58 -0400
Subject: Tropcial roof, Warn winch, rack

>>Congratulations with the new aqquisition, I guess you will keep the
Tropical roof and Brownchurch rack, but if you want to find a new home
 (snip)>>

Keep the tropical roof?  Why would I need an extra lining here in the middle
of Arizona?  :~)

Have started going through the vehicle and attempting to put a "fix-it" list
in some sort of priority.  Have ordered oil filters, one windshield glass,
replaced the plugs, obtained oil for replacement of all, etc.

The brakes grab violently to the right.  Jacked up the front of the vehicle
yesterday.  Front right brakes adjust easily and the wheel turns easily.
 Left front:  brakes don't seem to adjust and the wheel doesn't turn
easily.... it's like there's a constant brake.  James Howard is coming down
from the mountains tomorrow and we'll attempt to sort it all out.

Other than that,  the  "Soldado Sangrando" runs fairly well.  We went out
yesterday for a quick errand during a period of low traffic.  I decided to
park her until the brakes are sorted out.  They work well... on the second or
third pump ... as long as you compensate for the right pull.  Maybe the name
should have been "RushLimbaugh"

Gerry Elam
PHX  AZ
'64 "88    "Soldado Sangrando"
'95 Disco "Great White"

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:39:11 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Lucas and Vlad

Larry Smith asked:

>or does Lord Lucas meet Vlad the Impaler?

because he found some tractors where Lucas had been replaced by Polish 
electric stuff. Well, Vlad was actually Transsylvanian, which would be in 
Romania today, far from Poland. I would guess that these parts are 
definitely low-tech, and pretty much everybody can make them, and the 
average Pole makes about one tenth of the average Brit, plus the 
environmental impacts are maybe not taken so seriously in Poland. Just a guess!
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:21:51 -0700
From: Luc Rokegem <defender@belgonet.be>
Subject: Re: are 2.3 injector the same as the 2.5s ?

Franz Parzefall wrote:
> Hello folks,
> I need new injectors for my 2.5D (norm. asp.) and a friend has
> lying around a set he bought for his SIII 2.3D. My manual says
> CAV injectors BDNO/SPC 6209 or BDNO/SP 6209 (btw. what's the difference?)

I looked in my manuals and found for the 2.25 D :

- 564332  Injector (new)
- 564332E Injector (exchange)

for the 2.5 D :

- 564332  Injector (new)
- 564332E Injector (exchange)

This partnumbers are the same, so you can use your friends injectors.
Partnumbers change all the time so don't bother.
regards,
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:28:44 -0500
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: Stowing Jacks

I found a really easy indoors place to secure the high-lift jack in my swb
88" IIA (seats six fully armed). Mine has the fold-down back seats over the
rear wheel wells. The seats project just a little beyond the wheel wells,
and that makes a neat stowage spot for a four-foot jack. Turn the top piece
to the perpendicular position and take off the base. Then hold the jack
against the wheel well, with the bottom jaw and the top jaw resting on the
floor. Run a half-inch bolt through the aluminum (aluminium? birmabright?)
skin, through one of the holes in the jack, and through the loose
baseplate. Secure with a wingnut. With one bolt you have the jack stored
with three points of secure contact against your car, no rattles, no
ballistic bits during a roll.  I secured my half-inch stainless bolt with a
washer on both sides of the aluminum and a nut on the inside, which fits
nicely behind the jack.

By the way, high lift jacks are down to forty bucks apiece at the Central
Tractor chain.

My staff appreciate the jack, even though it is stowed in their space. It
beats digging the car out whenever a heavy dew turns Delaware clay into
quickmud.

By the way, are there any web pages with pictures of the new Land Rover
Lite that is supposed to be introduced by Herr Rover at the British auto
show?

 _______
 |___|__\__==
 | _ |  |  --]   Ned Heite, Camden, DE 19934        <DARWIN><
 =(O)-----(O)=                                        "   "

                             

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From: EvanD103@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:50:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Super Dynamat

A week or so ago I reported some disapointment at the level of noise from my
Series III transfer box dispite new bearings, asked if anyone had experience
with Acoustikit type sound deadeners.  John Dillingham E'mailed the
suggestion to try "Superdynamat".
This is similar to the Dynamat put behind speakers to prevent panels from
vibrating, but has a shiny aluminum outer surface.  Dynamat is available in 1
sq. foot sheets, priced at about $10 a pair.  Superdynamat is a bit more
expensive at $30 for a 4 sq. foot piece - available in the US at the
installation department of Circuit City stores, or by mail order from The
Eastwood Company for about the same price.
Thanks for the suggestion, John, I bought two pieces - enough for the engine
side of my lower firewall as well as the underside of the covers for the
bellhousing and gearbox, and the seat base center section.
It made a marked improvement to the noise level.  I'll now need to buy a
tachometer so I'll know when to shift ;).  Well, it's not that quite, but it
was worth the effort and I recommend it for someone who's doing a frame over
or has the above panels off to do clutch or gearbox work.   The aluminum
surface has "Superdynamat" printed all over it, but this can be removed with
some spray on carb cleaner and a rag, if you're pickey about how your
firewall looks - like I am.
  erik
Erik van Dyck
Stone Mountain, Georgia
'73 Series  III   88"

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:39:04 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Elephant hide

FWIW, Chris "the Badger" Laws had a bolt of elephant hide in his shop a few 
years back; I think he bought the last one that RN had.  As upholstery is 
his business (Badger Coachworks), he'd not likely to sell any, but he does 
an excellent job reworking your seats.  He did mine a few years back and 
they still look great.  Incidentally, he found a Mercedes fabric that looked 
kinda like elephant hide, so he may have a supply of that as well.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:39:07 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: The ghost of Nigel

Dave B. wrote:

>The left one goes blink...blink...blink...blink and the right one goes
>blinkblinkblinkblink....why this?

Damn...mea culpa...looks like *I* invoked "Nigel's disease" this time with 
*my* blinker problems.  Say Dave, I'll trade you my left for your right, and 
we'll both be synchronized! ;-)

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:33:47 -0400
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Lucas! OH Lucas?!  (electrical problems, go figure)

Thanks Mike.

This will help me get this thing on the road this weekend.  With a lot more
amps!!!  I bought on at Parts America.  It's an 80Amp for a '77 chevy PU
350ci. No mod required ( I think).

Mike Johnson  N7WBO

74 SIII 88 (Chester)  175k daily driver
73 SIII 88 (Jezebel)  everyone's gettin a piece

http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:35:38 -0700
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Super Dynamat

EvanD103@aol.com wrote:
> A week or so ago I reported some disapointment at the level of noise from my
> Series III transfer box dispite new bearings, asked if anyone had experience
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 26 lines)]
> Stone Mountain, Georgia
> '73 Series  III   88"On our local Discovery Channel there was an article on an electric noise 
cancelling system that used headphones or speakers to feed an oposite 
polarity noise into an area that was noisy.  Does anyone have any info on 
where to get more info, and would it work in the Land Rover cab using the 
stereo as a source of the "white noise"?  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:27:57 -0700
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Running Problems-It's not the Carb!

John Cassidy wrote:
> Well, I took the brand new Weber off the IIA and put it on the III to see
> if the trouble I've been having with idle and acceleration are in Zenith or
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 23 lines)]
> 4 Wheels: 1995 Discovery, 1987 Range Rover, 1966 Series IIA 88", 1974
> Series III 88"Intermitant problems are hard to find however, I had the same problems 
plus I found that when the engine was hot it was worse.  I tried putting 
on more than one carb.  I even went to the Rochester only to find it 
still needed some choke to keep the thing running properly.  I finally 
solved the problem with an electric fuel pump.  The original just didn't 
put out enough fuel to keep the thing running right even though the tin 
can fill test and a pressure gauge said otherwise.  Now I don't even need 
the choke to start unless it is very cold.  Dave VE4PN

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From: Deezilbob@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:14:32 -0400
Subject: removing steering relays

 the best way i have found to remove a steering relay or frame or spring
bushings is to use a press, either an up-right or a porta-power, i too have
used blaster(great stuff) and also spent many hours wailing away with a large
hammer and bushing removal drift, chisels, etc. you can take your springs to
nearly any garage and they can press your bushings out and put new ones in
for a nominal amount (3 bucks apiece). as far as the frame bushings go, try a
porta-power. the steering relay typically will fight you down to the last 1/8
in. if you try to drive it out and you will probably wind up damaging your
frame to some degree not to mention you may also injure your hands 

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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: USA 1997 D90s
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:38:33 -0400

Just got the 1997 official product literature in at Metro West on the 1997 lineup. More details to follow.

As a surprising aside, I noticed that the 1997 D90 WILL NOT be available in Canada!! 

That's wierd...

cheers
Jim

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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: RE: NADA
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:46:37 -0400

Correct. NADA in old LR terms is North American Dollar Area. Currently however, it stands for North American Dealer Association....

cheers
Jim

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From:  Alexander P. Grice[SMTP:rover@pinn.net]
Sent:  Monday, September 30, 1996 8:08 PM
Subject:  Good news/bad news

WRT the Mid-Atlantic Land Rover Rally.  First the good news:

We should have one of the Camel Trophy Discos on-site.

Now the bad news:  My college friend who works at RJR had the Camel Trophy 
distribution warehouse in Europe (Brussels) send a bunch of stuff over for 
give-aways.  The shipment contained 50 Camel Trophy hats...and the whole 
bundle is now languishing in Customs in Greensboro, NC.  Seems that the hats 
were made in China, and that there is an *import quota* on Chinese-made 
baseball hats!  (I'll bet that reactionary geezer Sen. Jesse Helms is behind 
this! or maybe it's Strom Thurmond.)  So customs has to check to see if the 
quota is being exceeded.  And the invoice didn't have what the hats were 
made of....  That's liable to get another half-dozen gov't bureaucracies 
involved.  These are HATS for crissakes not Chinese-made assault rifles!

...and you thought that hosting a rally was simple.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 00:13:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Speaker Rattle

On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Mike Johnson Responded to:
> Trouble is it could be anything from a misadjusted shiter linkage...
with:
>> Isn't that one of them fancy Dormobile things?

Mike:

Please do not tell people about the less well known Dormobile features.  Next
thing you know they will want to know about the swimming pool in the asement.

Paul Donohue
Denver
1965 Dormobile

"Honey, there is a squirrel in the hot tub."

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Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 00:48:52 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Re: Safari Guard/My wife made me do it

>Does Safari Guard make parts for Series Vehicles? If so, how can I get more
>info about them.

>David Russell
>soon-to-be first-time Land Rover owner.
Safari Gard's Ph # is 909 698 6114
Welcome to the club!

Steven Paustian
AKA Generalissimo Chaos  (Al U. Minium)
President, Flatland Rover Society
04/500 D90SW

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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:28:15 -0700
From: Michael McKeag <mmckeag@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: Hi lifts and lift offs

Just weighed my Hi-Lift: 26 pounds (11.8 kg).

I once served on a jury deliberating a case of assault with a deadly
weapon. Growing weary of the endless debate over whether or not a
commercial-duty mop wringer could be considered a deadly weapon, I
picked up the tagged evidence, lifted it over my head, poised to strike.
All conversation stopped as my fellow jurors considered the question
from their new perspective. Consider the Hi-Lift as a deadly weapon.
Mine is laying on the garage floor until I get around to bolting it
securely to the truck. The mounting hardware arrived a couple days ago.

-- 
Michael McKeag          Webmaster - Native Plant Society of Oregon
Portland, OR USA        http://www.teleport.com/nonprofit/npso/  
mmckeag@teleport.com    LRO - 1995 D90SW #143, alpine white

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Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 03:27:06 -0700
From: osmicr <osmicr@uslink.net>
Subject: unsuscribe

Steve Reddock wrote:
> Subject says it all!
> please unsubscribe

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