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1 | Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-m | 87 | trip report Corsica (long) |
2 | Rob MacCormick [Rob_MacC | 15 | who's drivin' this bus? |
3 | "Niel J. P. Fagan" [NF@o | 21 | Re: Galv chassis & Waxoyl. |
4 | rover1@sky.net (Steve Pa | 18 | Re: who's drivin' this bus? |
5 | Proto777@aol.com | 21 | springs |
6 | Proto777@aol.com | 13 | springs |
7 | "Adams, Bill" [badams@us | 14 | Re: Disco Purchase... |
8 | twakeman@scruznet.com (T | 23 | Re: stowing and using a Hi-Lift on a D90 |
9 | Andy Woodward [azw@aber. | 13 | stowing and using a Hi-Lift on a D90 |
10 | Andy Woodward [azw@aber. | 17 | Re: Safety in Aluminum Cans |
11 | Andy Woodward [azw@aber. | 18 | Re: Accidents in L-R's |
12 | "Steve Reddock" [steve_r | 20 | Fuel tanks |
13 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 11 | lr trivia... |
14 | "Adams, Bill" [badams@us | 24 | Re: Alternate diesels in 88 |
15 | Jeff Berry [jaberry@i202 | 26 | Re: Series fuel filler (JB) |
16 | jim@kidd.com (jnk) | 28 | sprung spring |
17 | Uncle Roger [sinasohn@cr | 16 | Re: J.C.Whitless (was seatbelts) |
18 | 12/4/95 [rsloan@titan.li | 27 | a jack by any other name... |
19 | jouster@rocket.com (John | 14 | Re: Alternate diesels in 88 |
20 | jouster@rocket.com (John | 17 | removing Black gunk on body panels |
21 | Mike Dryfoos [mikedr@MIC | 11 | Series database entry |
22 | Mike Dryfoos [mikedr@MIC | 17 | need source for free-wheeling hubs |
23 | Adrian Redmond [channel6 | 22 | Re: removing Black gunk on body panels |
24 | "Robert Fisk" [sfisk@hot | 10 | [not specified] |
25 | "David Lee" [DJFLee@msn. | 21 | Re: Hi-Lift Jack |
26 | QROVER80@aol.com | 16 | Re: Tr3 |
27 | paarch@ix.netcom.com (Pa | 40 | #%*&@~ City ordinances |
28 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 30 | Good news/bad news |
29 | RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.Compu | 18 | Re: Re: Alternate diesels in 88 |
30 | ole jørgen vikanes [ovika | 7 | no more mail please!!!!!!!!!! |
31 | "David J. Mercer" [merki | 28 | RE: thanks for info |
32 | Jeremy Bartlett [bartlet | 51 | Re: #%*&@~ City ordinances |
33 | Russell U Wilson [ruwst+ | 21 | Re: sprung spring |
34 | "Gonzalez del Cid." [jtg | 10 | Range Rover Wheels |
35 | "Gonzalez del Cid." [jtg | 11 | Range Rover Wheels |
36 | "John P. Casteel" [jcast | 55 | Series Database |
37 | "John P. Casteel" [jcast | 16 | Re: lr trivia... |
38 | Michel Bertrand [mbertra | 43 | Re: Range Rover Wheels |
39 | Greg Moore [gmoore@islan | 18 | Re: sprung spring |
40 | ericz@cloud9.net | 38 | Difficult Announcement... |
41 | ericz@cloud9.net | 9 | Re: #%*&@~ City ordinances |
42 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 13 | Re: lr trivia... |
43 | Jon Nyhus [bmc@syspac.co | 25 | Re: Jon's Range Rover Wheels |
44 | Michel Bertrand [mbertra | 74 | Re: #%*&@~ City ordinances |
45 | Mike Johnson [johnsonm@b | 26 | Re: #%*&@~ City ordinances |
46 | brazelle [brazelle@iques | 25 | original upholstery ? |
47 | ericz@cloud9.net | 82 | Re: #%*&@~ City ordinances |
48 | twakeman@scruznet.com (T | 33 | Re: Tr3 |
49 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 24 | Re: Tr3 |
50 | rover1@sky.net (Steve Pa | 33 | Re: Difficult Announcement... |
51 | paarch@ix.netcom.com (Pa | 30 | Re: Tr3 |
52 | rover1@sky.net (Steve Pa | 22 | Re: Hi-Lift Jack |
53 | rover1@sky.net (Steve Pa | 18 | Re: #%*&@~ City ordinances |
54 | uf974@freenet.victoria.b | 28 | turbo on a 2.25 diesel |
55 | "Christopher H. Dow" [do | 59 | Re: original upholstery ? |
56 | rover1@sky.net (Steve Pa | 30 | Re: original upholstery ? |
57 | Greg Moore [gmoore@islan | 15 | Re: original upholstery ? |
58 | Jeremy J Bartlett [Bartl | 24 | Re: original upholstery ? |
59 | ericz@cloud9.net | 16 | Re: turbo on a 2.25 diesel |
60 | rhodesia@juno.com (Chris | 7 | [not specified] |
From: Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-muenchen.de Subject: trip report Corsica (long) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:05:15 +0200 (METDST) Hello Rovers, perhaps some of you are interested in some details about my recent climbing trip to Corsica. We (my girlfriend and I) started friday (Sep. 13th) 15:30 from Rosenheim in manifold cooking while going up the Brenner pass. This steak was delicious. Even my Angelika who was very sceptical at first, found it good. We took the ferry at 8:15 and landed in Bastia 5 hours later. We first headed west to the Desert des Agrigates which despite of the name is no desert in the normal sense, but farely remote. We sleeped in the Rover and took a nice unpaved road down to the sea from the Bocca di Vezzu. This one is nothing searious, but can't be driven with every normal car since it's somewhat rocky. There is a second _off road_ in the area leaving the D81 at Casta which I was told is more searious, especially after rain. We spent the day on the beach and then drove south to the Asco valley and hiked up the Muvrella (2148m) the next day. You have a good view on Monte Cinto (2706m) the highest mountain of the island from there. Wednesday we spent sport climbing in Caporalino. Thursday we took a stroll in Corte in the rain (not recommended!). The only good thing there was a SIII 109 truck cab with a monster of a winch, obiously used for towing wood. On Friday the weather was good again, so we went climing in Ponte Vecchio. Saturday saw us driving the D69 to Zicavo and climbing there all the afternoon. In the evening we headed on southward and camped just befor Zonza. In the night we had several thunderstorms with rain that sounded like it would wash my Rover away. Having breakfast beneath the bakery in Zonza, we met two people from Berchtesgaden in a VW bus who reported that the weather was very bad at the Bavella pass, the place we wanted to go next. So we changed our plans and visited the prehistoric site at Cucuruzzu and then went south to Bonifacio, which is a nice old city and stands on chalk rocks. They look like those in Dover, but are much harder. After the visit with two more thunderstorms we took the N169 up the east coast to Conca. On Monday we went climbing at Punta Calcina near Conca and headed on to Solenzara in the evening. The next day we sent some our at the crag at Monte Santu, but it was very hot and the climbing there was not that good, so on we went to the Col de la Bavella (Bavella pass). There we had a hard strom. You could feel the wind while the truck was parked. After a 15 min walk tio the sportclimbing area we decided that it was much to cold to climb the next day and so we went down on the west side of the pass. The next two days saw us driving up the west cost to Calvi and laying in the sun on farious beaches. On that way we met Brummls brother, an exmilitary 110, but with softtop. In Calvi we came across two German guys with a exmil. 1983 SIII that looked like it was just out of the showroom (no, it was NOT clean!). The owner was a real Rover fanatic. He told me that he just bought this one from the British forces in M"onchengladbach. Having some good Rover talk, he told me about a very good unpaved road that leads from Conca to Zonza over the mountains. He had driven it some years ago and seriously got stuck there. After a several hour walk in the dark he arrived in Zonza at 3 h in the morning, found a hotel, where they celebrated the cooks birthday and though were still awake. The next day a 80 year old man pulled his Land Rover out with a farm traktor. We had a lazy day on the beach on Friday and grilled some fish on the manifold. On Saturday we went on the ferry at 2pm and landed in La Spezia at 7:30pm. Being hungry we wrapped the two steaks we bought in Bastia in tinfoil, attached them to the manifold and brumm! onto the autostrada. I got somewhat nervous, but the parking places had exactly the right distance. We sleeped near Verona and got home at 3 pm on Sunday. I didn't have any technical problems despite of a dirty plug on the oil pressure switch, that went back on duty after I cleaned it. And now the statistics: We saw about 10 Series vehicles (mostly SIII), 50 90/110 (Defender and Pre-Defender), 20 Discos and 30 Range Rovers. About 80% where locals, the rest tourists. Sadly almost non waved back. Corsica is the only land despite of the UK that I've been to that has more Land Rovers than J**ps. Most of the local 110s had a truck cab and where clearly used as work vehicles. the highlights where a D130 with camping cabin (German), the above mentioned SIII 109 with the monster whinch, a SII 88 in Bonifatio and the 2 mentioned exmil. trucks (both Germans). If anyone is interested in info on climing in Corsica, please contact me. Cheers, Franz --------------------------------------------------------------- Franz Parzefall tbr1102@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de _______ [____|\_\== [_-__|__|_-] Brumml, exmil. 1989 Land Rover 110 2.5D ___.._(0)..._.(0)__..- ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:16:38 -0400 From: Rob MacCormick <Rob_MacCormick@Harvard.Edu> Subject: who's drivin' this bus? ...snip 'mericans drive on the left side of the vehicle, Brits drive on the right side of the vehicle. ......snip If this is true, perhaps I have the 4 speed forward/16 reverse variant???? How rare is this?? Rob M ser.IIa RHD dormobile living, driving, and leaking in the USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Niel J. P. Fagan" <NF@orc.soton.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:38:29 GMT Subject: Re: Galv chassis & Waxoyl. Do it, and do it good, esp. on the inside of the box sections either end of the main rails. My replacement (L-R) chassis was galv'ed, but there's rust starting to show in the spring hanger boxes and my brothers front rails rusted through on his. Dads rear cross-members rotted away as well, but we put that down to the Bull-sh-t & salt water.... SI 88 diesel (mine) SIIa 109 6cyl (brothers) soon to be replaced by a SIIb F/C diesel SIII 88 diesel (dads) Rgds Niel Views expressed are personal and not those of the University, unless otherwise & expressly stated. ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:05:22 -0300 From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian) Subject: Re: who's drivin' this bus? > 'mericans drive on >the left side of the vehicle, Brits drive on the right side of the vehicle. [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] >If this is true, perhaps I have the 4 speed forward/16 reverse variant???? >How rare is this?? Oh, not so rare as you might imagine, I have 4 or 5 sitting in the back yard right now. The only reason I don't drive them is that I'm currently useing them to store my collection of hens teeth. Steve Paustian 95 arles blue D90 SW 95 coniston green D90 SW Scitex Prismax II ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Proto777@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:07:09 -0400 Subject: springs Ahoy the list, I'm looking for a pair of used rear springs for my '64 IIa, 88". The current set has fanned and siezed to the extent that they seem welded. Cold fusion? Someone that went to a coil conversion, perhaps. Also, I have a safari top and I'm looking to work some type of trade for a truck cab. Going to mid-atlantic. It's 20 miles from home. Almost walking distance..... you never know. Thanks, Coleman ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Proto777@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:20:48 -0400 Subject: springs All, Sorry, I forgot to include email address. Coleman Proto777@aol.com Thanks ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 9:18:09 -0400 From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov> Subject: Re: Disco Purchase... If they're looking for a grocery getter, avoid the Land Rover. The Volvo is safer, more fuel efficient, more reliable, less complex, and better suited to the chore of parking-lot roulette. I'd buy one in a moment. Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel. Soon to be Triumph Trophy owner ? ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:25:10 -0700 From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Subject: Re: stowing and using a Hi-Lift on a D90 At 8:11 PM 9/29/96 -0700, Michael McKeag wrote: >So much for the Hi-Lift as a truck decoration, how to use it? The jack >nose fits securely under the square profile of the front bumper, but .what about jacking the rear? There's nothing but round tubing back >there, and the tow points on either side of the fuel tank. I can imagine .lots of possible arrangements with slings and hooks, etc., but I'd be >interested to hear what actually works the field. >. >Mike ; Mike, you can do what I did, have jack points welded to the rear crossmamber. Worked great for my car. TeriAnn twakeman@scruznet.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:59:49 +0000 Subject: stowing and using a Hi-Lift on a D90 >While I'm at it, I should get a piece of heavy gauge steel equal in >width to the height of the wheel well, to secure behind the jack, >against the wheel well, for use as a Hi-Lift "big foot" when jacking >on soft ground. Otherwise, I may need another appliance from Hi-Lift >Jack Company, the Post-Popper, to extract the jack from the mud. Use yer spare wheel - it's what theyre for........ ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:59:49 +0000 Subject: Re: Safety in Aluminum Cans >This same fellow told me about a friend of his who gotten sideways on >a hill in the Rockies that was more than 45 degrees, and the Land >Rover rolled over and over down the hill. When the dust settled, it >had landed right side up, and the bruised and battered occupants >drove out to civilization on four flat tires. There wa a great picture of a film crew who had done something similar on an ice slopein Iceland. The 110 (bog standard - no roll bar) had rolled comlpetely over end ended up on its roof looking all pathetic and embarrassed with its little wheels in the air. Oh yeah. Damage? The windscreen was cracked. ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:59:49 +0000 Subject: Re: Accidents in L-R's >:On a slightly different track, a head on impact test several years >:ago on several 4x4's showed that the transfer of forces to the body >:was sufficent to kill, due to a torn aorta mainly, because of the >:lack of crumple zones. The tests I saw found one factor vastly overruled everything else. WEIGHT. The heavy car decellerated slower than the light one. Crumple zones and stuff were only second order effects. The much vaunted Volvos were actually only average in protection for their weight. (It's all advertising hype....) Landrovers are HEAVY....... ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 04:50:28 EDT From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com> Subject: Fuel tanks Someone mentioned keeping some air space in a tank for a buffer. This doesn't work. By leaving air space in you create a nice explosive mixture with the fuel vapour. By filling the tank to the brim you don't leave enough room for much vapour. All this is irrelevant in a moving vehicle as the fuel is usually going down. But it's good to know when you are working on the vehicle. Play safe, Steve Steve Reddock, Xyratex | "NEVER QUESTION AN Ext.(01705) 486363 x4450 | ENGINEER'S OPINION, IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P) | YOU THUNDERING MORON !" Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com | - Dogbert 1996 ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 11:10:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: lr trivia... Regarding the usual debate on how many LR's were sold in NA, another number to add to the mix. Between 1955 and 1960 the two dealerships in Newfoundland sold approx 1,000 Land Rovers (about a dozen survive) Rgds, ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:09:37 -0400 From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov> Subject: Re: Alternate diesels in 88 Look for either and older Isuzu P'up with the Diesel or (even rarer) an old Trooper 2 with the turbo diesel. Perkins Marine diesel engines are top-quality units but are expensive due to their demand by the yachty crowd. Mercedes-Benz and Audi/VW engines are engineered for passenger vehicles and don't really meet the requirements for off-road trucks, unless you can find the commercial truck 6 cylinder somewhere. If you wish to go all-out and build a monster Rover, go with the GM 6.2 liter as fitted to Suburbans, Cadillacs and some older Safari station wagons. This is a really big V8 engine that will need modifications done to the engine bay. You'll need to get the Stage 1 or Defender grille and a larger radiator as well as heavier-duty-er springs. I think there are some people in the UK that have adaptor kits for these. Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel. Soon to be Triumph Trophy owner ? ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:07:30 -0400 From: Jeff Berry <jaberry@i2020.net> Subject: Re: Series fuel filler (JB) rscholl@lib.com wrote: > Jeff: > A gentleman that just moved from MA to VT (last year) has a pile of [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)] > rscholl@lib.com > 70 SIIa 88" Thank you RFS for Mikes number he was very helpful, had the filler neck and is drilling out the rivots as we speak. He is located: Bit of Britian Chelsea Rd Cornith VT 05039 802-439-5815 He said he was open 24 hours a day ....at least thats what it seems like to his wife.. Jeff Berry 94 D90 (with a few Series parts here and there) Richmond, VA ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:19:59 -0400 From: jim@kidd.com (jnk) Subject: sprung spring hello everyone, help... my rover is a 1960 SII 88". i noticed a funny rubbing noise yesterday while off-roading. on inspection i noticed that the front left leaf spring had patially seperated. two of the leaves were fanned out. what made it worse was that i could move them back into place with my hand. when i got home and checked again, one of the leaves had worked its way forward and is about to come out. the retaining band is pushed up around where the top leaf is rounded and connects to the frame. what gives? can i hammer these back into place? should i replace the spring it or have it repaired by a spring shop? by the way, drunk redneck types get real friendly when: their $20,000 chevy z-71's sink up to their axles, their snatch rope breaks four times on four attempts by a toyota pickup, the truck won't budge and you happen to be there in your land rover with a winch even though they were hollering out to their friends before they were stuck "hey... there's kangaroo bob. you go huntin' for elephants and sh*t in that thing don't ya kangaroo." jim karantinos tallahassee, fl ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:55:51 -0700 From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Re: J.C.Whitless (was seatbelts) Somebody mentioned J.C. Whitney as a good source of stuff... Their catalogs are definitely worth getting. They also have a bit of a web page at <http://www.catalogsite.com/Gen/JCWhitney_P1.html> where you can request a catalog. They also have a presence on Compuserve I think. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:48:34 -0400 (EDT) From: 12/4/95 <rsloan@titan.liunet.edu> Subject: a jack by any other name... Someone asked me how i fit a high lift in the back of my D90, and the answer is, I don't think I did. I just assumed that the jack I had from my old Bronco was one but now that I've seen the real McCoy I now see I was mistaken. I don't have either jack at hand to compare, but here's how I had it...my old jack was pretty big and I had it installed along the gunwale, on top of the rear wheel well. It stretched from the rear speaker to the triangular piece of tubing behind the front seats. I never had my rear seat installed while the jack was there, I only carried it in my D90 twice. The Bronco had a mount for the jack on the spare tire carrier, a set up that was ideal because it kept it out of the way and freed up a lot of space on the inside of the truck. I'm not sure if such a set up could be fabricated on a D90, but I'm sure some industrious soul has found a way to do it. The other option, of course, is to mount your jack to a roof rack. I've seen just about everything on a roof rack, and it seems a logical place to put something that's too big for the back of the truck. Well, good luck and let me know how you're dealing with it. As I'm going to get a hi lift I'd like to know what you've decided on and how it worked out. Rich D90 # 2948 Dried clay=waxoyl? leave it on or take it off? ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 11:50:40 -0700 From: jouster@rocket.com (John Ousterhout) Subject: Re: Alternate diesels in 88 Doug Shipman had a complete Mercedes 300 diesel w/ conversion kit. What's wrong with a stock 2.25 in good condition, or (my ideal) a 2.5? John O '64 109 deezil 5-door >Question - does anyone have an 88 powered by a Mercedes or Isuzu diesel? If >so, would appreciate your comments about this foolhardy venture. One yard >offered me a VW Jetta diesel today, but I rejected it thinking it would be >even slower and more undered powered than a Rover diesel. ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 11:47:32 -0700 From: jouster@rocket.com (John Ousterhout) Subject: removing Black gunk on body panels Conventional paint stripper, applied and scraped several times, will eventually remove the black asphault adhesive that glued the horse-hair to the aluminum. It helps A LOT to have the surface laying flat, ie; unbolt it and lay it horizontal. I DO NOT recommend sandblasting aluminum sheet metal as it will warp. OTOH, I may be the only one who cares. JohnO >How do you remove the black gunk stuck on the interior panels of the Series >truck. I have removed the original vinyl/moist/smelly carpet/sound deadening [ truncated by lro-digester (was 19 lines)] > \______/ >mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca <<---- Note new address! ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Dryfoos <mikedr@MICROSOFT.com> Subject: Series database entry Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:29:19 -0700 Here is the info on my Rover: 24441713G,1971,IIa,88,noname,Poppy Red and Limestone,Washington,USA,dd,unk,mikedr@microsoft.com,lro-net,overdrive; Warn winch; tropical roof; electronic ignition; unleaded head ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Dryfoos <mikedr@MICROSOFT.com> Subject: need source for free-wheeling hubs Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:34:16 -0700 My Rover ('71 88") is fitted with Dualmatics free wheel hubs, which are beginning to wear out. Can anyone recommed a source for decent used FW hubs? I'm particularly interested in a pair of Warn M11, if there are any out there for sale. Alternatively, anyone know about availability of parts to rebuild the Dualmatics? Thanks. mikedr@microsoft.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:21:23 -0700 From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk> Subject: Re: removing Black gunk on body panels I did this a couple of years ago on my 88" - I think I used petrol, or was it Xylene thinners? Could have been cellulose or turpentine - but I am sure it was removeable with a solvent! Good luck -- adrian redmond --------------------------------------------------- CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK (Adrian Redmond) tel: +45 86 57 22 66 e-mail channel6@post2.tele.dk 1: Series III 1976 109" D Pick-up 2: Series III 1979 88" D Hard top (Icelander) --------------------------------------------------- "Two SIII Land Rovers are more reliable than one!" --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Robert Fisk" <sfisk@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:34:17 -0700 subscribe land-rover-owner --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 20:41:16 UT From: "David Lee" <DJFLee@msn.com> Subject: Re: Hi-Lift Jack Before the thread dies, can anyone advise me on the wisdom of jacking the front bumper of a standard civilian 109 SW with a Hi-Lift? All the literature I have read says do not jack under the bumper, but: a. I cannot see how else to do it with a Hi-Lift. b. The recently discussed LRO article has a picture of an enthusiastic young lady doing just that - albeit on a Military bumper. Incidentally, a Hi-Lift in the UK seems to cost about twice the prices quoted from the US. Serves us right for having access to cheap Landie spares I s'pose. Thanks for the tyre info by the way - It's Trac Edge for me. Dave Lee Kinloss Scotland SIII 109 Safari Another sidescreen TR owner (TR2) - Do landies and TRs naturally go together? Is this an unexplained phenomena? Should I call Agent Scully? ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: QROVER80@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:51:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Tr3 Dave Lee said SIII 109 Safari Another sidescreen TR owner (TR2) - Do landies and TRs naturally go together? Is this an unexplained phenomena? Should I call Agent Scully? I don't know about Sculley BUT I have a Tr3a. On the road and legal but still in brown primer. Rgds Quintin Aspin ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:50:23 -0700 From: paarch@ix.netcom.com (Paul Archibald) Subject: #%*&@~&# City ordinances I have been planning a frame-replacement on my 88" for a couple of months now. The last month or so I have been stripping all the parts bolted onto and welded on-to the replacement frame in preparation of adding left-side(passenger ;^) ) fuel-tank mounts and possibly roll-bar mounts. I than had planned on having the whole thing Galvanized or powder-coated. Last week I received a ticket for the chassis(abandoned, non-operating vehicle) in my drive-way! I talked the officer into giving me a couple of weeks to finish my work, before getting it out of sight. Now after talking to code inforcement officers, I have found out that I can not do a frame swap in residential Fremont. I can't do welding, I can't do any sort of painting, I can't co any bodywork etc. etc. What do I do? any ideas? I am really pissed off and am going to looking into changing the stupid ordinance if possible, The cop hinted that it was possible but had "a considerable fee" attached. My options are, as I see them: A. ignore ordinance-risk fines-penalty, possibly have vehicle inpounded(according to cop) B. move to the country (farmers are allowed to work on their vehicles) C. find somewhere in S.F. south or east bay to do the work. (Lynn Helm's shop would have been perfect, but he is closing shop :^( D. Take it to an approved Fremont body-shop ( owners probably give the ordinance-writers a kickback!) spend mony I don't have etc... ( if I had that kind of money, I would trade it in on a D-90) E. sell all my "old clunkers", buy #%*@*#&$ Jap-trash like all the other people. NEVER! F. any realistic suggestions from y'all Thanks for any ideas. Paul Paul Archibald paarch@ix.netcom.com (parch@smmff.com during the week at work) (510)353-1320 or wk. (408)487-1336 '58 88" RHD 2-litre ....uh oh Lucas strikes again :^( '87 Range-Rover-over 160,000 miles-back from the dead "going strong" (Squeak) ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:08:03 -0400 From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Good news/bad news WRT the Mid-Atlantic Land Rover Rally. First the good news: We should have one of the Camel Trophy Discos on-site. Now the bad news: My college friend who works at RJR had the Camel Trophy distribution warehouse in Europe (Brussels) send a bunch of stuff over for give-aways. The shipment contained 50 Camel Trophy hats...and the whole bundle is now languishing in Customs in Greensboro, NC. Seems that the hats were made in China, and that there is an *import quota* on Chinese-made baseball hats! (I'll bet that reactionary geezer Sen. Jesse Helms is behind this! or maybe it's Strom Thurmond.) So customs has to check to see if the quota is being exceeded. And the invoice didn't have what the hats were made of.... That's liable to get another half-dozen gov't bureaucracies involved. These are HATS for crissakes not Chinese-made assault rifles! ...and you thought that hosting a rally was simple. Cheers *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd. | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) | | 757-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 757-622-7056 | | | *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---* ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM Date: 30 Sep 96 17:06:39 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Alternate diesels in 88 Bill, You recommend the GM 6.2 litre v8 for a conversion. Is this engine all it is made out to be. It seems that it would be the perfect diesel equivilant to the Petrol v8, especially in the newer 6.5 litre TD flavour. I have however heard rumblings about the reliability in the long term of this engine. I ask specifically as a potential conversion for my 101Fc expedition camper. Any comments? Ralph 101 Fc. ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 02:13:14 +0200 From: ole jørgen vikanes <ovikanes@sn.no> Subject: no more mail please!!!!!!!!!! -- -dont send more mail!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "David J. Mercer" <merkin@sierra.net> Subject: RE: thanks for info Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:24:03 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where is this guy parting out the S1s? and is that 88" also being parted out? Thanks in advance. ---------- David Mercer PO BOX 3713 Olympic Valley CA 96146 ph 916-583-4829 fax 916-583-4829 merkin@sierra.net 53 S1 80" IN REBUILD "THE HOON" 57 S1 107" SW, FOR SALE "THE BUS" 63 SII 88" 65 SII 88", FOR SALE 66 SII 88" 69&71 MB U900s 86 MB 280GE 88 SAAB 9000 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBAEF5.C84F95A0 ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:43:28 -0700 From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net> Subject: Re: #%*&@~&# City ordinances Paul Archibald wrote: > snip > Last week I received a ticket for the chassis(abandoned, > non-operating vehicle) in my drive-way! I'm not clear on this. Is it a ticket based on the Fremont ordinance? If not I'd guess (wrongly?) that it's inappropriate because the non-op/abandoned regs. apply (to the best of my knowledge) only to public "higways" (i.e., streets). > Now > after talking to code inforcement officers, I have found out that I can not > do a frame swap in residential Fremont. The key is you can't do one they know about. How flexible is your garage situation? I sympathize with this. I've been checking neighborhoods in WA and look into covenants etc. that might restrict even parking vehicles in the driveway (regardless of "condition"); some neighborhoods are pretty anal and plastic. Mind you I also have some (limited) sympathy for some of my neighbors who have to view my "wreck" and I wouldn't want a neighbor with 3 rusting hulks parked exposed in the road. > F. any realistic suggestions from y'all > Thanks for any ideas. > Paul If you're truly stuck try camouflage. After all such ordinance aren't really based on the auto repair special interests ( :) ). It's all down to appearances. One "trick" is a mock form (plywood or PVC - the white irrigation piping stuff from the hardware) around the frame, etc. in turn encapsulated by a by a car cover (not a tarp) - presto - a fancy expensive late model something that any yuppy would be proud of parked neatly in the driveway. They'd never know what was underneath and the neighbors wouldn't have anything to complain about ... might even raise the property values :) Hey you could even put a BMW or Porsche emblem on it to give the right impression. How much driveway space do you have? Is a temporary structure an option (for example some of these temporary carports)? A bit more involved but convenient than the above. Storage space places sometimes have powered units that accept vehicles (there's one in Oakland). Unfortunately this falls into the category of $$ (just under $200/mo.). Check with Jory Bell, he was talking about getting people together to rent shop space in SF (once again $). cheers Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:56:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu> Subject: Re: sprung spring On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, jnk wrote: > by the way, drunk redneck types get real friendly when: their $20,000 chevy > z-71's sink up to their axles, their snatch rope breaks four times on four [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)] > jim karantinos > tallahassee, fl If you did in fact pull them out you are a better person than I. There would have to have been much, much, begging and the exchange of some cash before I would help out a prick like that. Let him call a tow truck or one of his redneck pals, who probably owns the towtruck by the way. If it were life and death and the guy was alone I would help him out even if he was a jerk but since his buddy was there...screw 'em. Russ W. Often drunk but tries hard not to be a jerk ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Gonzalez del Cid." <jtge@guate.net> Subject: Range Rover Wheels Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:02:57 -0600 To Jon: I want you to send me the price of the wheels or your phone number to contact you. Thanks. ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Gonzalez del Cid." <jtge@guate.net> Subject: Range Rover Wheels Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:04:54 -0600 I was sent some e-mail concerning a set of Range Rover Wheels in canada, but somehow I lost the information. If it's no trouble, please send me the contact again, Please, Jose Gonzalez jtge@guate.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:34:38 -0500 From: "John P. Casteel" <jcasteel@mindspring.com> Subject: Series Database This information is based on 78 vehicles reported. I have limited information on some vehicles so the totals may not be equal Vehicles by Year: Vehicles by WBase: 1948 - 0 1967 - 1 80 - 3 1949 - 0 1968 - 2 86 - 2 1950 - 0 1969 - 7 88 - 48 1951 - 2 1970 - 2 107 - 2 1952 - 0 1971 - 9 109 - 22 1953 - 0 1972 - 8 1954 - 0 1973 - 3 1955 - 1 1974 - 1 Vehicles by Series: 1956 - 1 1975 - 1 I - 6 1957 - 2 1976 - 1 II - 4 1958 - 0 1977 - 1 IIA - 41 1959 - 3 1978 - 1 II1 - 25 1960 - 0 1979 - 0 III S1 - 1 1961 - 3 1980 - 0 1962 - 1 1981 - 1 1963 - 6 1982 - 2 Condition: 1964 - 8 1983 - 0 dd - 54 pc - 3 1965 - 6 1984 - 0 dr - 7 dd/ur - 1 1966 - 4 1985 - 0 ur - 11 unk - 1 destroyed - 1 Vehicle by Country: North American Importers: UK - 5 Arizona ? Australia - 3 Daum Imports - Madison, Wi Austria - 1 Boston ? Canada - 12 Copeland Motor Car, Co Holland - 1 Shell Oil Israel - 1 Fred Deely (Vancouver BC) New Zealand - 1 Burnell Motors Winnipeg South Africa - 2 Baker Auto Sales Atlanta South Australia - 1 British Northwest Land Rover USA - 47 New York (HDO Murphy) West Indies - 1 Knievel Imports Butte MT Unknown - 2 Rover N.A. Houston Land Rover Atlanta Ltd. Cowie Motors Halifax Rootes Inc in LA California Rover Cars Ltd. (New York) Fredricks in Seattle Is there any information that you are interested in that I can add to the database?? It is easier to add now than it will be in the future. Cheers, jc ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:40:36 -0500 From: "John P. Casteel" <jcasteel@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: lr trivia... Dixon Kenner wrote: > Regarding the usual debate on how many LR's were sold in NA, > another number to add to the mix. Between 1955 and 1960 the [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] > (about a dozen survive) > Rgds, Does this mean that they have succumbed to nature or what? All 988 of them? How very sad. Cheers, jc ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:37:28 -0400 From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@InterLinx.qc.ca> Subject: Re: Range Rover Wheels At 19:04 96-09-30 -0600, you wrote: -I was sent some e-mail concerning a set of Range Rover Wheels in canada, -but somehow I lost the information. If it's no trouble, please send me the -contact again, Please, -Jose Gonzalez -jtge@guate.net Well, here it goes again: Don't know if that helps you out, but there is a guy in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, who sells anf fixes Jaguars. At one point, he bought out a Jag dealer that was also selling Range Rovers. He had a bunch of wheels with tires of 1990-1993 Range Rovers. Montreal customers wanted some kind of fancy mag wheels so the dealer kept the original ones. His phone number is 514-444-2900 and he was selling them fairly cheap. Don't know the country code, though. Hope it helps, >I live in Guatemala, so I would shipp the wheels to Miami, and then to >Guatemala. If from Montreal, it might be simpler to ship direct to Guatemala, on a boat. Good luck!! Salutations, Michel Bertrand ______ Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, / __ / \ 1963 109 PU (Rudolph) | Lucas | 1968 109 SW (in the works) | Inside | 1973 88 SW (21st century project) \ / \______/ mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca <<---- Note new address! ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:23:21 -0700 From: Greg Moore <gmoore@island.net> Subject: Re: sprung spring jnk wrote: > on inspection i noticed that the front left leaf spring had > patially seperated. two of the leaves were fanned out. what made it worse > was that i could move them back into place with my hand. when i got home > and checked again, one of the leaves had worked its way forward and is > about to come out. Better have another look. The leaf must be broken. There is a center bolt that goes through all the leaves. I suppose the bolt could have disintegrated leaving all the leaves loose but that is not nearly as likely. Cheers, Greg ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ericz@cloud9.net Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Difficult Announcement... Dear all, As you may know, over the past few months I created Overland Motors as an independent supplier of Land Rover parts and accessories. It is with difficulty and a heavy heart that I announce that Overland Motors, Ltd. will be ceasing the majority of its operations immediately. Educational opportunities (grad school) and family obligations have made it clear that I cannot effectively pursue the Land Rover parts business. There are only 24 hours in a day and I believe my efforts are best directed elsewhere. Additionally, Land Rovers started as a hobby for me and I want to keep it that way. I am truly sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused. All pending, paid orders will be filled expeditiously. In addition, I have a small stock of parts, accessories and books that I will be bringing to Rover events to sell. If there is something in particular that you want or need, please e-mail me directly and I'll get back to you as time permits. I have truly enjoyed my eventful (if short-lived) foray into the commercial side of Land Rovers, I sincerely thank all of you for your support and encouragement. I look forward to seeing you all soon! Regards, Eric Zipkin President _______________________________________________________________________ OVERLAND MOTORS...."EXPEDITION SPECIALISTS" 1075 Washington St. Land Rover - Range Rover - Discovery - Defender Peekskill, NY 10566 USA http://www.OverlandMotors.com Fax: (914) 734-4352 Phone: (914) 734-4333 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ericz@cloud9.net Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: #%*&@~&# City ordinances Property rights? What's that? Eric ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:01:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: Re: lr trivia... On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, John P. Casteel wrote: > Does this mean that they have succumbed to nature or what? All 988 of > them? How very sad. Nature, broken up. Climate there is brutal, the roads a mess, lots of salt, road along the Atlantic and Gulf, an economy that has been in the dumps for 30+ years... ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:47:59 -0700 From: Jon Nyhus <bmc@syspac.com> Subject: Re: Jon's Range Rover Wheels At 08:13 PM 9/29/96 -0600, you wrote: >I would like to know the price of the 4 wheels, and the form of payment. >I'll also need to know if you can shipp that to Miami. [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)] >Jose Gonzalez >jtge@guate.net I'll have a look at them tomorrow and see just what shape they are in. Shipping them is not a problem. Regards, Jon -------------------------------------------------------------- British Motor Classics, Ltd., 8828 N. Black Canyon Hwy #1 Phoenix, AZ 85051 USA 602.995.2028 FAX 602.995.1909 E-Mail bmc@syspac.com British auto restoration for all marques, Car sales & locating service, Spares sales ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:49:34 -0400 From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@InterLinx.qc.ca> Subject: Re: #%*&@~&# City ordinances As a future lawyer, and Eric Zipkin could also answer you, and with the help of my fiancee working for the city hall doing bylaws and going to court on behalf of the municipality, there must be a way to get yourself out of this: 1) Go to the city hall and get a copy of the bylaw that says that a) you can't have trash lying in your backyard and b) you can't weld, work in your own garage. 2) It is possible that the cop is wrong. After all, he didn't write the by-law and might be confused by ingesting too many donuts. 3) From your post, I understand that you live in a residential zone. Therefore, you can't have any commercial activities, except exceptions. It is possible that the cop thought that you were running a business, which, if it was the case, would probably be illegal in your residential zone. 4) For the "rubbish" in your driveway: It is possible that there is not much that you can do. Most cities have severe bylaws for regulating nuisance. In the Nuisance by-law, there must be a definition of a nuisance, what does it consist of. Usually, a car that is 10 years old or older and is unplated/registered is considered a nuisance. Th municipality can order you to remove it. They should give you some time to do so, though. Try to find a solution with them (not the cop, but somebody at cityhall with some kind of authority) to solve the problem. They are not interested to go to court on this issue. You are a taxpayer and you will vote on the next election. If one of your neighbours complained (must be a jealous J**p owner), it could be more difficult. You just need a few weeks, right? 5)Instead of paying some storage for your parts and going through the pain of moving the parts around, it might be a cheaper solution to get the ticket, tell them that you will go to court on the issue, and, as soon as you got the parts cleaned up, pay the fine and you don't have to go to court. Might be cheaper to pay the 50$ fine than to move the stuff around. 6) For the welding/working on your Rover at your home, again, you have to consult the by-law. What does it say? If it does prohibit working on your own vehicle, I think that the by-law is illegal. Working on your own vehicle is an "accessory usage" to owning a property in the Common-law. Actually, that concept is from the San Francisco area, they should understand. It would be different if you were running a business. You are supposed to have the right to work on your vehicle. 7) If it doesn't work, tell them that you are not working on your Rover, but washing it extensively. Washing your car is apermitted, I'm sure about that. 8) If it doesn't work either, tell them that the dead frame is sculpture, just a form of art. 9) Last thing to do is to consult a lawyer. 10) I do not take any responsability in all of the comments/advice that I wrote in the last 9 paragraphs, as I am not a lawyer (yet) in the province of Quebec, and have no right to practice in California either. I am just giving some pointers, hoping that it helps a fellow Land Rover enthusiast. Hope it helps, Michel, (having also a land Rover in pieces in the driveway) Michel Bertrand ______ Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, / __ / \ 1963 109 PU (Rudolph) | Lucas | 1968 109 SW (in the works) | Inside | 1973 88 SW (21st century project) \ / \______/ mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca <<---- Note new address! ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:47:12 -0400 From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com> Subject: Re: #%*&@~&# City ordinances At 04:50 PM 9/30/96 -0700, Paul wrote: > I have been planning a frame-replacement on my 88" for a couple of >months now. The last month or so I have been stripping all the parts bolted [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)] >do a frame swap in residential Fremont. I can't do welding, I can't do any >sort of painting, I can't co any bodywork etc. etc. <<SNIP>> I feel your pain. I'm a HAM radio operator and have problems in my development with antenna restrictions. In your case I think maybe the press (paper or tv) might like to know as well as any attorney friends you might have. I can understand not having a car on block for months at a time, but get real. Mike Johnson N7WBO 74 SIII 88 (Chester) 175k daily driver 73 SIII 88 (Jezabel) everyone's gettin a piece http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm ------------------------------[ <- Message 46 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:07:40 -0500 From: brazelle <brazelle@iquest.com> Subject: original upholstery ? I have run across a gentleman who does upholstery work in his spare time as a hobby. He saw my rover and offered to re upholster it for a very good price. I thought: What the heck, why not! My rover is a 1966 109 IIa sw green in color. Do I need to keep all colors and material original to maximize the resale value or does it matter? Does anyone know the original color of the seats, headliner, trim pieces, doors, etc.? RN catalog lists the headliner material as oatmeal ( is this a shade of tan or gray ?) It looks as if my seats were gray at one time and have been painted black. My door trim are presently black , headliner painted tan, trim pieces around the top are in a pile in my garage bare metal without a clue of the color of material once on them before I purchased the rover? Do they need to match the color of my seats? I am new to the digest so forgive me if I am bringing up a matter which has been dicussed prior to this time. Thank you in advance for any guidance you could give. ROVER ON!!!!! Bryan Brazelle brazelle@iquest.com Madison, AL. '66 109IIa sw ------------------------------[ <- Message 47 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ericz@cloud9.net Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: #%*&@~&# City ordinances On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Michel Bertrand <mbertran@InterLinx.qc.ca> wrote: > As a future lawyer, and Eric Zipkin could also answer you, and with the >help of my fiancee working for the city hall doing bylaws and going to court >on behalf of the municipality, there must be a way to get yourself out of this: Well, it seems I have been put to task... >2) It is possible that the cop is wrong. After all, he didn't write the >by-law and might be confused by ingesting too many donuts. Absolutely true...the police have the most discretion of any party in the entire justice system. If they understand a law to be applicable a certian way, they will enforce it as such. It is then up to you to address the issue in court. My recommendation would be to address the issue more fully with the police first. If indeed the ordinance does bar what you're doing, then proceed outherwise. If however, it is being inaccurately applied, a little polite information will go a long way. Also, find out who originated the complaint. The cops have an enormous amount of discretion in what they chose to enforce (witness speeding) and they probably wouldn't zealously enforce in your situation if not for a private party creating a stir. Perhaps addressing the situation with them directly might rectify matters. You just need a few weeks, right? >5)Instead of paying some storage for your parts and going through the pain >of moving the parts around, it might be a cheaper solution to get the [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] >you got the parts cleaned up, pay the fine and you don't have to go to >court. Might be cheaper to pay the 50$ fine than to move the stuff around. Quite pragmatic, although there's nothing to stop the cops from issuing the same ticket over and over again. If you believe they won't, then this will be your cheapest option. >6) For the welding/working on your Rover at your home, again, you have to >consult the by-law. What does it say? If it does prohibit working on your [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] >would be different if you were running a business. You are supposed to have >the right to work on your vehicle. That right, however, must be balanced by the community's right to live free of nuisance. Look objectively at what you've got showing out there to the community...if a reasonable person (don't ask another Rover owner, they're not reasonable people by definition) would deem your yard as an overt nuisance, then the statute would probably stand. If however, it just an overly anal neighbor who wants to cause you trouble, that's complaining about your chassis in the yard from time to time then you've probably got grounds. Whether or not you want to challange the statute, however, depends on how much time and money you're willing to spend. >7) If it doesn't work, tell them that you are not working on your Rover, but >washing it extensively. Washing your car is apermitted, I'm sure about that. Stretching.... >8) If it doesn't work either, tell them that the dead frame is sculpture, >just a form of art. That's it, just turn it into a first amendment issue...the ACLU might just pick up your legal bills ;) >9) Last thing to do is to consult a lawyer. Good God, man....whatever for? Seriously, a legal assault will be costly and might not yield anything...if you feel genuinely wronged, however, it might be worth a consult. >10) I do not take any responsability in all of the comments/advice that I >wrote in the last 9 paragraphs, as I am not a lawyer (yet) in the province >of Quebec, and have no right to practice in California either. I am just >giving some pointers, hoping that it helps a fellow Land Rover enthusiast. Ditto on the disclaimers...I'm no lawyer either. My experience derives more from being involved in a fair amount of litigation and knowing what it can cost. Rgds, Eric ------------------------------[ <- Message 48 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:33:54 -0700 From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Subject: Re: Tr3 At 4:51 PM 9/30/96 -0400, QROVER80@aol.com wrote: >Dave Lee said ; >SIII 109 Safari >Another sidescreen TR owner (TR2) - Do landies and TRs naturally go together? ; >Is this an unexplained phenomena? Should I call Agent Scully? ; >I don't know about Sculley BUT I have a Tr3a. On the road and legal but still >in brown primer. >Rgds Quintin Aspin ; As a TR3A and 109 pwner, I think the two marques complement each other well. You can have common spare parts AND no matter which car you're in you know which way to open the windows assuming you have the side curtains mounted on either. As an asside, Playing about once I noticed that the LR 2-1/4L petrol head's intake ports line up with the TR3 intake manifold and a couple of the mounting oles ven line up. I wonder how a 2-1/4 L petrol engine would perform with a pair of 1-3/4 SUs? Unfortunatly for those of us with left hand drive, the sterring box is in the way. Otherwise I would have tried it. TeriAnn twakeman@scruznet.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 49 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:42:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: Re: Tr3 On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: > As an asside, Playing about once I noticed that the LR 2-1/4L petrol head's > intake ports line up with the TR3 intake manifold and a couple of the > mounting oles ven line up. I wonder how a 2-1/4 L petrol engine would > perform with a pair of 1-3/4 SUs? Unfortunatly for those of us with left > hand drive, the sterring box is in the way. Otherwise I would have tried Swan neck intake manifold, then ditch the dual SU's and put on a 45DCOE Weber... :-) Well, I'll wait fo Wade to do that up here. Should be amusing... BTW, am told that this intake was advrtised in a recent LRO, but have not found the advert yet. Rgds, PS. Why is it just the Mini owners that can get 16 valve, crossflow double overhead cam heads for the 1275cc engine... :-( Would go great on my '68 S though... :-) ------------------------------[ <- Message 50 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:19:45 -0300 From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian) Subject: Re: Difficult Announcement... If there is something in particular that you want or need, >please e-mail me directly and I'll get back to you as time permits. >I have truly enjoyed my eventful (if short-lived) foray into the [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] >of Land Rovers, I sincerely thank all of you for your support and >encouragement. Eric, You've touched the dream that most of us just gaze at from afar. Sorry to hear you will be giving it up. My wife, Lorri, and I have considered a LR based company for some time. Is there any way we could tap into your knowledge and experience for our own business? We both have a great deal of experience and enthusiasm, having started the Flatland Rover Society here in K.C. two years and having acted as Pres. and Sec./Treas for the entire time. I am in advertising/marketing and Lorri is an accountant. How did you get started and how did you set up your wholesale accounts with the English suppliers? Anyway, thats not really what I wrote for... Just wondering if you had any D90 stuff left for sale. Off-Road and recovery items, Steel wheels, workshop manuals, etc. E-mail me a list if you have one. Again, sorry to see you leave before I even knew you were around! (this internet posting was the first I'd heard of your business) you can lead a horse to water, but if the silly beast drinks till he bursts, all you have to show for your good intentions is a dead horse. Steve Paustian 2- 95 D90 SW's (LandRover obsessed for over 25 yrs and loving it!) President, Flatland Rover Society ------------------------------[ <- Message 51 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:43:24 +0100 From: paarch@ix.netcom.com (Paul Archibald) Subject: Re: Tr3 TeriAnne, I had a similar idea, but had not pursued the experiment yet. I have a set of SU's from my old Magnette parts car(for the now-gone-MGA ) I had wondered about trying them on the 2.25 engine when I actually build a torquer one to put in the 88". I thought about trying it on the 2-litre, but remembered a trick dirt-bike mechanics use to get torque. Use a smaller carb at a higher velocity (smaller venturi in small carb) gives them good low end grunt, like the tiny solex/zenith/weber-single barrell on our vehicles from the factory. On the other hand this carb setup along with a good header/muffler set up to match the intake, along with the 2.5 litre cam, would probably make a good highway cruiser. If I could keep the great low end torque and get the top end power, this would be a cool idea. I knew there was a good reason to get a rhd Rover :^) Paul >As an aside, Playing about once I noticed that the LR 2-1/4L petrol head's >intake ports line up with the TR3 intake manifold and a couple of the [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)] >TeriAnn >twakeman@scruznet.com Paul Archibald Parch@smmff.com (510)353-1320 or wk. (408)487-1336 '58 88" RHD 2-litre ....uh oh Lucas strikes again :^( "87 Range-Rover-160,000 miles-"going strong" (Squeak) ------------------------------[ <- Message 52 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:43:19 -0300 From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian) Subject: Re: Hi-Lift Jack >Incidentally, a Hi-Lift in the UK seems to cost about twice the prices quoted >from the US. Serves us right for having access to cheap Landie spares I [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] >Thanks for the tyre info by the way - It's Trac Edge for me. >Dave Lee David, What do they cost in Scotland? Maybe we could do some trading of parts and accessories? Might be worth looking into. I could send you the best of the Yankee stuff and you could send me Landie stuff... Screw the tax man... up the Rebels! you can lead a horse to water, but if the silly beast drinks till he bursts, all you have to show for your good intentions is a dead horse. Steve Paustian 2- 95 D90 SW's (LandRover obsessed for over 25 yrs and loving it!) President, Flatland Rover Society ------------------------------[ <- Message 53 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:52:02 -0300 From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian) Subject: Re: #%*&@~&# City ordinances >My options are, as I see them:......... >F. any realistic suggestions from y'all > Thanks for any ideas. > Paul Paul, Look into a collectors license, or even pursueing a Museum peice status. Maybe claiming it as a peice of Art that you are restoring would appeal to the politico snobs. Steve Paustian 95 arles blue D90 SW 95 coniston green D90 SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 54 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:00:35 -0700 (PDT) From: uf974@freenet.victoria.bc.ca (Clinton D. Coates) Subject: turbo on a 2.25 diesel A while back, someone from Oz mentioned they had put a turbo on a 2.25 deisel with interesting results. I have lost that posting. Are you still out there? If so, I would love to get a repost of the technical details. Speaking of turbos, wouldn't the 2.25 petrol stand turboing as it is "seriously overbuilt?" Regards Clinton P.S. In regards to the VW 25D? diesel, I thought someone earlier had mentioned that it was used in the Pinzgauer. The swedish supplier in LROI also has kits for these motors. Perhaps someone from Norge or Sverige can comment? Lykke til! -- __x___x_ / Clinton D. Coates uf974@freenet.victoria.bc.ca |__|__|__\/__ | | |_ | *Emerson* 61 lwb pickup.....mostly runs (_)"""""(_)" *If it doesn't leak, its not a Land Rover* ------------------------------[ <- Message 55 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:57:34 -0700 From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org> Subject: Re: original upholstery ? Resale value? Selling his Land Rover? Burn him at the stake!! Actually, I've thought about this a bunch. I've got several long-range plans for my Rover, and many of them aren't 'original'. One of the things I like the most about Series Land Rovers is their simplicity, versatility, and maleability. If I were a poetic sort, I'd say something like "LR Restoration is my medium--my Rover is my canvas", but I'm not, so I'll just say that I used to build small-scale models, and now the scale has just grown (my model is a IIA ;-). I chose to get new, more comfortable seats, painted the inside a totally different color from the outside, and put in a center console. It's certainly the case that stereos arent 'original'. Neither are ARB lockers, electric winches, coil springs, V8s (with, of course the Stage I exception), most brands of heaters, roof racks, compressors, carpet, inertia shoulder harnesses, two-barrel Weber carburetors, overdrives, auxilliary lights, electronic ignitions, soundproofing kits, and many, many, more things that make our Rovers more to our individual liking--or maybe even better vehicles. Hell--even the Doormobile conversions aren't strictly 'original'. The questions I always ask myself are: Is this going to be fun to do? Is the total enjoyment I get out of it going to be worth what it costs? Will it make the vehicle more reliable? Will I like the vehicle more by doing it? Will I enjoy the vehicle more after doing it? If enough of these are 'Yes', then I do it. One day, I got a whim and painted the roof with white rustoleum, and all the cappings and bumpers with flat black rustoleum(which, BTW, is what I used on the inside, too!)--it loooks great, and I have only gotten positive feedback. Another thing I learned from looking at LROI, is that it seems like in the UK, LRs are mainly thought of in roughly the same way we here in the US tend to think of old Broncos, Je*ps, and Scouts. They're just old trucks (lorries?). WRT Resale value: I've never known anyone who restored/remodeled an old 4x4 anything and had any hope of getting their money back. All my FJ40 buddies have $20K-$30K invested in them, and they will never see that back. Frankly, I'll probably end up spending that on my IIA in the long run. I do it because it's fun, and I don't care if someone thinks it's not 'original'. Chris '65 IIA '96 Disco At 10:07 PM 9/30/96 -0500, you wrote: >I have run across a gentleman who does upholstery work in his spare time >as a hobby. He saw my rover and offered to re upholster it for a very [ truncated by lro-digester (was 25 lines)] >brazelle@iquest.com >Madison, AL. >'66 109IIa sw ------------------------------[ <- Message 56 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:12:47 -0300 From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian) Subject: Re: original upholstery ? Do I need to keep all colors and material >original to maximize the resale value or does it matter? It doesn't really if the vehicle isnt showroom new looking to begin with. LR's aren't really collectables in the traditional automotive sense. >know the original color of the seats, headliner, trim pieces, doors, >etc.? The seats were probably gray "elephant hide"(appropriate, no?) most of the rest of the upholstered peices can be the same material. >RN catalog lists the headliner material as oatmeal is really a good description of the color. >oatmeal ( is this a >shade of tan or gray ?) It looks as if my seats were gray at one time [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] >before I purchased the rover? Do they need to match the color of my >seats? Please yourself in all things Rover, but please steer away from chrome and candy apple paint. Steve Paustian 95 arles blue D90 SW 95 coniston green D90 SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 57 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:04:11 -0700 From: Greg Moore <gmoore@island.net> Subject: Re: original upholstery ? Christopher H. Dow wrote: >I > do it because it's fun, and I don't care if someone thinks it's not > 'original'. > Chris healthy attitude, IMHO Greg ------------------------------[ <- Message 58 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:29:39 -0700 From: Jeremy J Bartlett <Bartlett@slip.net> Subject: Re: original upholstery ? brazelle wrote: > snip >Does anyone [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] > shade of tan or gray ?) It looks as if my seats were gray at one time > and have been painted black. Oatmeal is a light tan (sort of a tweed like look). The door liners and seats would have been grey/gray "rhinohide" /"elephant" hide vinyl, now no longer available (at least for those with mortal incomes and knowledge). Reasonably close matches can be found though. Most of the later liners and seats are black vinyl. Of course you could go for leather; that might increase the resale value :) cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 59 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ericz@cloud9.net Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 01:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: turbo on a 2.25 diesel On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, uf974@freenet.victoria.bc.ca (Clinton D. Coates) wrote: >P.S. In regards to the VW 25D? diesel, I thought someone earlier >had mentioned that it was used in the Pinzgauer. That vehicle uses a flat 6 diesel of VW origin...I've got the exact specs around here somewhere if you want them Rgds, Eric ------------------------------[ <- Message 60 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 961001 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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