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1 William S Kowalski [702520safety (Land-Rovers???)
2 Wdcockey@aol.com 17Re: Taylor? Taylor? ANYONE?
3 John Antram [rewt@sover.22Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
4 rover@pinn.net (Alexande57Mid-Atlantic Rally
5 CarDoctor@gnn.com (Rober22Help!! Clutch question.
6 D Jordan [djordan@neptun51Enquiry
7 Michel Bertrand [mbertra29Re: 1961 2.25 engine colour
8 David Place [dplace@mb.s25Re: Taylor? Taylor? ANYONE?
9 Faye Ogilvie [ogilvi@hge39Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
10 lopezba@atnet.at 31Re: Accidents in L-R's
11 lopezba@atnet.at 32Re: Springs for SI's
12 Michel Bertrand [mbertra23Black gunk on body panels
13 rover@pinn.net (Alexande27Safety in Aluminum Cans
14 Andrew Steele [ad158@day28Alternate diesels in 88
15 rover@pinn.net (Alexande16Mid-Atlantic Rover Rally
16 rover@pinn.net (Alexande25Aluminum cans, redux
17 Steve MARGOLIS [sim1@cor25Re: Safety in Aluminum Cans
18 m.belik@uws.edu.au (Miro51Re: My Land Rover is going
19 Gregspitz@aol.com 15Hi Lift Jack
20 dolf van mil [dolfvmil@c30Re: Taylor? Taylor? ANYONE?
21 David Bothe [bothe@itz-k17V8 runs high
22 KLWatLWB@aol.com 24Re: Re. electrical problems & Lucas electric
23 O2BATSEA@aol.com 13Re: Hi Lift Jack
24 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em14Re: Frame enhancement
25 Don Scott Wallace [swall40Want to Buy, But Need Information on 1990 to 1993 Range Rover County
26 Jon Nyhus [bmc@syspac.co15Re: Range Rover Wheels
27 "Jan Wagemaker" [wagemak11maiden voyage
28 "Alan Logue" [logue@a01117Re: 109 Station Wagon frame


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Date: 28 Sep 96 09:23:53 EDT
From: William S Kowalski <70252.1204@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: safety (Land-Rovers???)

A good, cost effective, source for inertia seat belts for the Landy is J. C.
Whitney, Chicago, Illinois, USA , ph 312-431-6102, FAX 312-431-5625. Request
their catalog, it will entertain you just as much as the many L-R parts catalogs
you have already memorized. They also have a good source/selection of single and
double channel stainless steel window guides in 6/8 foot lengths with nylon
runners to solve the L-R rusty window guide problem forever. Plus, lots of odd
tools and other useful junk.

Your'e on your own from this point on----.

Bill Kowalski   (Not associated with J. C. Whitless, just an occasional local
customer)
'67 L-R 109" IIA
'63 Austin-Healey BJ-7
'53 RR Bentley "R"

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:45:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Taylor? Taylor? ANYONE?

What sounds like a simple question but isn't:
>Another newbie question:
>If no designation as to steering wheel location is given, how does one
>determine which side the passenger side is? Rob M Concord, MA USA

Some items are referenced left or right, while others are passenger side or
drivers side. The reason is some don't change with which side the steering
wheel is, while others do. Example, the right door is always the right door,
while the steering relay is always on the driver's side, right or left.

David Cockey

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:55:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Antram <rewt@sover.net>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

	Re: scrapping of seatbelts; if your looking for good belts, find 
a car that has NOT suffered a major impact; the belts ( if they were in 
use ) will have stretched and lost thier ability to stretch in another 
accident. I speak of the nylon cross-woven belts found in most vehicles 
today. In an impact they stretch to absorb some of the force.

	I have a set from a Subaru which I'll be installing sortly - the 
subaru died from a cracked head/bad turbo unit. The Subaru also 
eventually donated its registration to our Discovery; somone at the local 
quick lube shop looked up the plate and exclaimed 'If this is what old 
subarus turn into, I'm going to buy two!'

John Antram	rewt@sover.net     RR 3 Box 888 Middlebury, VT  05753
Member "Green Mountain Land Rovers" http://www.gmlr.org
1972 Land Rover Series III 88", sunrooves (badly improvised by PO), Red
1995 Land Rover Discovery, 5-speed, sunrooves, Roman Bronze
1987 Mercedes-Benz 300SDL, Anthracite Gray

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 12:01:05 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Mid-Atlantic Rally

OK, gang, the Mid-Atlantic Land Rover Rally is a week away, and if you are 
planning to attend, I need to hear from you *NOW*.  The site is *way* out in 
the sticks, and the nearest (only) store is six miles away and its selection 
is, shall we say, limited.  So, if you are planning to attend and especially 
join us for either the box dinner at the theater Saturday or for brunch 
on-site Sunday, we need to know ASAP.  The caterer gets a call Tuesday with 
hard figures, so after that....

Some of the events:

        -Tech sessions Saturday morning (Series as well as Disco, Def. & RR)
        -Teeter-totter.
        -"The Aluminium Man Triathlon"  Vehicle scrutineering, mechanical 
         task, ARC-style RTV trials course, pioneering task.
        -Convoy to Fork Union Drive-in for a box dinner and a showing of
         what else, "The Gods Must Be Crazy."  Sure, you've seen it.  But 
         have you seen it on the big screen, sitting in your Series I?
        -50's style rock and roll (live band).
        -Tech sessions Sunday.
        -Brunch.
        -Blindfold obstacle course.

Throughout the event, there'll be a silent auction, the "feeley-meeley" box, 
*6 color print* T-shirts (design by Sand Toler), with lots of prizes, awards 
and give aways.  80+ vehicles have pre-registered.  There is an event fee of 
$15/vehicle, the box dinner is $9/person with $10 for the brunch.

The rally is held at Penlan Farm, Buckingham County, which is very close to 
the geographic center of Virginia.  The site is just off US RT. 15 about six 
miles south of the James River bridge.  Turn west on Rt. 671 - look for the 
signs, unless they get pinched like last year (and if I find out who it was 
you're dead meat) - and drive two miles to Penlan Farm.

There is plenty of room for camping on site.  (Porta potties and an ex-USMC 
water wagon.)  Virtually unlimited four wheeling on logging roads in *every* 
direction.  Triple-C and other vendors will be there with lots of Waxoyl.

So, if you are planning to come...e-mail me back before Monday.  There's no 
time to send in registration fees, but you can pay at rally control.  (And 
if you *say* you're coming for the meals and don't show up, one of our 
members who is in the Military Vehicle Preservationist Assoc and has just 
acquired a 106mm recoilless he can't wait to try out...well expect a 
"visit.")  Don't miss this event!  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:39:55
From: CarDoctor@gnn.com (Robert Davis)
Subject: Help!!  Clutch question.

Hi All,
 I am putting in an IIA engine (2.25 P) which has a III clutch into a Late 
IIA trans. The clutch looked strange to me but was working in a 1964 II 
(88).  My old clutch had spring fingers with a disk at the end of the 
fingers & the new clutch has the same fingers but no disk at the end.  The 
problem is that the clutch throwout does not seem to reach the clutch. Does 
a III clutch conversion require special parts?  I expected to adjust the 
clutch but this seem beyond that range.
  
Rob Davis_Chicago

Failure is not an option
Not on my watch.......

1971 (88)  Treeweaver
1965 (109SW)  OX
1968 (109 three door)  Dad's toy (only the caretaker)

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:41:01 +0200
From: D Jordan <djordan@neptune.dbn.lia.net>
Subject: Enquiry

To all very knowledgeable types:

I've received a letter with lots of questions I can't answer and want to
call upon the vast knowledge of all things Land Rover which resides on this
list.

The questions come from a would be purchaser of either a Series 3 or
Defender 110 Turbo Diesel who is asking for info to help him chose the best
option.

When was the Series 3 introduced.
Which engines were used in the Series 3
Which engine is regarded as the most successful
Was the 2.6 engine used in the R6 suitable for application in a Land Rover.
If not in what respect were they unsuitable and what problems were experienced.
Was only the R6 supplied with a factory galvanised chassis, or were other
models also available with galvanised chassis's
Is any Series 3 model suitrable for conversion to turbo diesel.   If yes,
what would such a conversion entail, which model is most suitable and which
turbo diesel engines can be used in such conversion.

He also asks the following about 110 Turbo Diesels - should these questions
be asked in the CSO list?

What is the difference between the 100, 200 and 300 TD engines
One author describes the 100 engine as a flop as it was plagued with
reliability problems - what were these - is it possible to overcome them and
at what cost.
Although the 200 engine was an improvement on the 100 engine, it seems as if
problems were also experienced with the 200 engine.   What were these
problems, is it p[ossible to overcome the problems and at what cost?
Is it possible to upgrade a 100 and 200 engine to the level of the 300
engine and if yes, what has to be done?
How does one distinguish between a 100, 200 and 300 engine (eg appearance,
serial number, model vehicle etc)
What gearbox is fitted to 110 Turbo Diesel and is this the same as the
gearbox fitted to the 110 with the V8 motor.
Can the gearbox fitted to the Series 3 R6, or any other gearbox be fitted to
a 110 turbo diesel.

The gentleman (who obviously likes detail) also asks for information on
books or articles dealing with Series 3 and 110 Land Rovers.

Any help in answering the above would be greatly appreciated.

Denese Jordan (Secretary LROC of SA : KZN)

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 13:04:39 -0400
From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@InterLinx.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: 1961 2.25 engine colour

At 19:08 96-09-27 -0400, you wrote:

>Engine color seems to have varied over the years. I cleaned all the black
>deposits from the block of our '60 SII PU, and found the original color to
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>was also under the valve clearance plate.
>David Cockey

Thanks! I like the elkectric blue colour cos it means that the engine got a
renuilt at some point in its life.

Thanks again, 

Michel
Michel Bertrand
						______
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, 		       /    __
					      /        \
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)	   		     | Lucas    |
1968 109 SW (in the works)		     |  Inside  |
1973 88 SW (21st century project)	      \        /
					       \______/

mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca <<---- Note new address!

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:44:52 -0700
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Taylor? Taylor? ANYONE?

Rob MacCormick wrote:
> Another newbie question:
> If no designation as to steering wheel location is given, how does one
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> If no designation as to steering wheel location is given, how does one
> determine which side the passenger side is? Rob M Concord, MA USAI just went through this with Merseyside Land Rover when I ordered my 
springs.  His answer was drivers side, passenger side is how they are in 
your country and not left or right as in England.  The spring formula 
sent to me by Trevor Talbot shows passenger side as supporting 580 lbs 
and the drivers side as 690 pounds.  I think they just expect that more 
often than not the passenger side is empty so they compensated.  The Free 
camber is 6.75 on the passenger and 7.42 on the drivers.  One thing not 
mentioned in any manual is, do these specs only refer to the front 
springs or do they also refer to the rear.  I can tell you, that 
installed the way Merseyside told me to do it I can go about 1/4 mile on 
hardtop without touching the steering and it goes die straight.  By the 
way, my spring builder company said he didn't have the rubber bushes for 
the shocks anymore but that they were the same as used on lod 
International 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks in the 50s.  Does anyone know a part 
number or common source?  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 07:53:40 -1000
From: Faye Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Aloha:
        My 19

Aloha:
        The gearbox in my 1965 '109' pops out of third gear on overun.
Unfortunately or fortunately it does not seem to be the usual worn synchro
causing the problem.  The truck has less than 35,000 miles on it.  When you
hold it in third gear with the shift lever, there is a vibration that is
noticable enough to you encourage you to not to do it.  If you hold it in
with the overdrive engaged, there is a VIOLENT vibration.  There is no
problem with the synchro on upshift or the gear in normal running and all
the other gears are fine.  
        Any ideas what to look for before I tear into it.  Also, what are
the gotchas in either taking apart and/or putting it back together.  
        Is there a compendium of advice/tips/special tool
substitutes/techniques/substitute parts, etc. that have come across this
list and if so how do you retrieve it?  I'm sure a few years of the advice
on this list would make a Haynes manual look like a kindergarten primer on
calculus.
        I have a double engine pulley that I'm not using.
        For the Dormobile beer refrigerator.  You can get refrigeration
systems from boat sources that will run off of A/C compressor pumps, They
are pricey, however.  You would have to fabricate the box.  You could make
your own system out of off the shelf parts with a little help from anyone
who understands refrigeration.  I did it on our boat with the biggest
expense being the fabrication of the holding plates.  An automatic control
might be a bit of a problem.  A lapse in manually controlling the system
would probably make the beer a bit frosty on a freeway trip or after an hour
or two of four wheeling.  Of course you would be the envy of any 7/11 ICEE
flavor.
Mahalo
Peter Ogilvie
'109' 1965, slime green
'88'  19770, naked

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 20:04:47 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Accidents in L-R's

Since we are on this subject:

-As I've posted before, I saw the remains of an accident where a local 
-farmer had done what local farmers do and pulled out of a sideroad in 
-front of a Volvo Battletank doing about 60mph. The Volvo was 
-identifiable from teh turret backwards, the front looking as if it 
-had been thru a crusher and extending about 1 foot in front of the 
-windscreen (hole....). The 110, which was t-boned amidships was badly 
-dented. Looked like several hours work in the barn with a lump 
-hammer..........

:On a slightly different track, a head on impact test several years 
:ago on several 4x4's showed that the transfer of forces to the body 
:was sufficent to kill, due to a torn aorta mainly, because of the 
:lack of crumple zones. 

I think this sums it up. Our vehicles will be a lot less damaged than us in 
a head-on collision; the Volvos and MB's and most other saloons will be 
total wrecks, and their drivers will not be hurt too badly. The only 
positive thing about a Series L-R in an accident is it's lack of speed. If 
an impact is destructive, I'd prefer the vehicle to be destroyed and not my 
precious self.
May we never have to find out
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 20:04:50 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Springs for SI's

Ian Harper asked:
>While we're on the subject of springs, is there a difference between S1 
>86" springs and 88" springs?  Can I pop on a new set of 88 springs in my 
>55 or do I have to get ones specially, ie from Craddocks?

>Also, apart from putting them in a previously booked container from 
>England, has anyone shipped them over (to Canada) separately? and if so, 
>from where, how and howmuch?

Ian - no difference between SI 86 and 88" springs. I have no idea whether 
there is any difference between SI and later springs. SI numbers are:
86 + 88, petrol, front, driver's:       238207
                        passenger's:    238208
                 rear, driver's:        241445
                       passenger's:     241446
Maybe somebody with an SII or SIII parts catalogue can find out whether the 
numbers are the same.

If you want to avoid trouble, try and avoid Craddock. They have quite a 
reputation for shipping the wrong parts, too late, and in the wrong 
quantity. To make up for it, they are somewhat complicated about refunds. If 
II, IIa or III springs fit, try L-R Supermarket; if not, try Dunsfold's. No 
connection with any of those except as a customer, needless to say.
Regards
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 14:26:38 -0400
From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@InterLinx.qc.ca>
Subject: Black gunk on body panels

Hello all, 

How do you remove the black gunk stuck on the interior panels of the Series
truck. I have removed the original vinyl/moist/smelly carpet/sound deadening
material from the seatbox the removable lids that go on it. 

Is sandblasting the only solution? Thanks a lot, 

Michel Bertrand
						______
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, 		       /    __
					      /        \
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)	   		     | Lucas    |
1968 109 SW (in the works)		     |  Inside  |
1973 88 SW (21st century project)	      \        /
					       \______/

mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca <<---- Note new address!

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 15:54:33 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Safety in Aluminum Cans

The worst vehicle/vehicle accident that I've seen was Robert Davis' one a 
while back.  As he was making a left turn, a girl (16 yrs old) tried to pass 
him on double yellow lines at speed.  Impact sent Robert over a 9' ditch 
into a field...where all would have been fine - if an off-road bucket 
excavator with a bulldozer blade hadn't been parked there. :-0

In the initial impact: Rover - virtually unscathed, with bits of door 
trim/sheetmal from other vehicle imbeded.  Other vehicle: totaled.

In the second impact:  Bucket excavator: unscathed.  Rover: engine/tranny 
mounts broken.  Front bumber displaced 6".  Right wing crumpled.  Both 
occupants (Robert and his wife) had cuts/bruises but were firmly bolted in 
by three point belts.  Hope this helps.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:27:17 -0400
From: Andrew Steele <ad158@dayton.wright.edu>
Subject: Alternate diesels in 88

Hello,

Starting to work on the 1973 series III 88 and have found that the engine is
not to be salvaged.  I had hoped for minimal repairs to have a "driver" but it
is not to be.  (engine found to have sat at least 5 yrs with water in it.)  

Chice is to part vehicle (some corrision, heavy salt damage and no usable
springs) axles + overdrive ok  ***or*** pursue a personal interest in Diesels
and use a local junk yard engine to repower it.

Question - does anyone have an 88 powered by a Mercedes or Isuzu diesel?  If
so, would appreciate your comments about this foolhardy venture.  One yard
offered me a VW Jetta diesel today, but I rejected it thinking it would be
even slower and more undered powered than a Rover diesel.

Thanks,

Andrew Steele
Dayton, Ohio
87  RR
73  Series III88

**wanted Defender 90**

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:56:54 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Mid-Atlantic Rover Rally

Did I mention the *three* kegs of micro-brew?  Pilsner, porter and brown ale 
from "Legandary Brewing" in Richmond.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:57:01 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Aluminum cans, redux

I'll take that back...the *worst* accident was Sand Toler's three or four 
years ago.  He was center-punched by a *tractor trailer* coming down a hill.

According to him, he was "rolled three times and bounced twice" down a 
hillside.  Despite the spin-cycle effect imparted by various bits of camping 
gear, a case of clay pigeons, shotguns, cooler, etc., he and his dog Scotch 
survived virtually unscathed. The police/paramedics/wreckers came to cart 
off the bodies/vehicles, but Sand hopped in and *drove* it - up an 
embankment mind you - to a safe spot so it could be towed later.  The 
constabulary (as well as the tractor trailer driver) couldn't believe it.  
Though every body panel was dented, the vehicle has been rebuilt.

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *---1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:34:27 -0400
From: Steve MARGOLIS <sim1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Safety in Aluminum Cans

A few years back, the Rovers North newsletter had a picture of a Land Rover
owned by the son of an old friend of mine in Maine, Bill Vallerand, who has
a pasture full of Land Rovers.  His son hit a moose with his Land Rover.
His bumper and left fender (fender and left wing) were damaged.  He was
fine, the moose wasn't.  Every year when I was living in Maine there were
stories of people who were killed when they hit a moose.  With the long
legs of a moose, an ordinary vehicle would go under the moose, and the body
would clean off the top of the car.

For a Land Rover, a moose is a much less formidable object than a rhinocerous.

This same fellow told me about a friend of his who gotten sideways on a
hill in the Rockies that was more than 45 degrees, and the Land Rover
rolled over and over down the hill.  When the dust settled, it had landed
right side up, and the bruised and battered occupants drove out to
civilization on four flat tires.

Steve Margolis - Ithaca, NY
1957 107 Station Wagon, Series I, Still in kit form in Maine (Damn!)
        serial number 13470093 engine number 114707468

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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 07:41:42 +1100
From: m.belik@uws.edu.au (Miroslav Belik)
Subject: Re: My Land Rover is going

Hello again LROs and Daryl
>Not that i am aware of.  when you get the slave reconditioned make sure
>that you get/already have a slave cyl foir a stage 1.  They have a larger
>bore than the std LR,  though they look the same.  Mixing them up is
>supposed to be a no - no...
Yes it is the larger bore size. I know this for a fact as the clucth expert
was questioning its extra mil or so.

>Is the clutch working OK ?  it never ceases to amaze me how light the
>clutch is on my stage 1 compared ....clutch to be like the brakes and
>steering......

The clutch is working, but I have to change gears very slowly and carefully
(maybe thats the way it will have to be). Now that you mention it the breaks
and steering are pretty heavy, I was just about to try and do something
about that this weekend.

>Yes but...  Its most likely the swivel pin pre-load  ( a favourite topic
>of mine)  You probably need to pull a couple of shims from out the top of
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>pre-load is done and the wheels have been balanced (and any US tie-rod
>ends have been replaced) then look at the steering damper.

Well someone told me that its most likely the bush inside the swivel. This
sounds about right. I actually thought that the swivel itself was moving
while the car was shaking, but its pretty hard top determine this whikst
driving.

What exactly needs to be pre-loaded and how is this done. The manual I have
shows nothing on this (I should get the actual factory manual though).
Anyway, as the swivels were stuffed I have ordered a recoed set of swivels,
bushes, seals etc. Should be here next week, so that will give me something
to do next weekend ...... I am sure my wife will be happy about that.

By the way, the dampner is rusted through and alligned in place by fencing
wire. I have tried to get the thing of but the nuts are rusted onto the
bolts, how do I get it off. Would a hack saw through the dampner help?????? 

Bye For Now
Miroslav Belik                    Email: M.Belik@UWS.EDU.AU        
UWS, Macarthur               Phone: 018-028-708 or 61 2 823 9445
P.O. Box 555                     FAX:   61 46 203025              
Campbelltown, 2560                                                             
NSW      
Australia.
         

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From: Gregspitz@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 19:14:32 -0400
Subject: Hi Lift Jack

I recently ordered and received a "Hi-Lift" Jack from Rovers North and the
first time I was familiarizing myself with it the base which seems relatively
flimsy cracked.  To ad insult to injury I went to the local "Farm and Fleet"
store today and say the official "Hi-Lift Jack-Deluxe" for only $40...the
Rover North Version was $84 before shipping.
The official Hi-Lift was much sturdier and built so much better....Anybody
else have similar complaints.  
I have no connection to Farm and Fleet
Greg

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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 01:36:12 +0200 (MET DST)
From: dolf van mil <dolfvmil@cistron.nl>
Subject: Re: Taylor? Taylor? ANYONE?

At 11:44 28-09-96 -0700, you wrote:
>springs.  His answer was drivers side, passenger side is how they are in 

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>often than not the passenger side is empty so they compensated.  The Free 
>camber is 6.75 on the passenger and 7.42 on the drivers.

The difference in the springs is related to the mounthing of the engine and
the gearbox.
The heavy side of the gearbox is on the left side => thats why the springs
are different. 
 
> By the way, my spring builder company said he didn't have the rubber
bushes for 
>the shocks anymore but that they were the same as used on lod 
>International 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks in the 50s.  Does anyone know a part 
>number or common source?  Dave VE4PN

I have some of these parts here. I'll lookup the partnumber for you later.
My girlfriend is sleeping now  => searching the parts now will make lots of
heavy sounds.

C.U.L.

Dolf....

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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 02:57:14 +0100
From: David Bothe <bothe@itz-koeln.de>
Subject: V8 runs high

The V8 - engine in our 1983 SIII 109 (Herbert) has one main problem: When it gets 
hot, it starts running high, when Herbert stands. The thing is, that if I remove 
the connection between the vacuum-ventil of the engine and the brake-servo, 
everything runs fine. But when I put my finger on the vacuum-ventil on the engine, 
it starts running high.

Any suggestions?

Many Thanx,

David Bothe
(bothe@itz-koeln.de)

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From: KLWatLWB@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:16:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Re. electrical problems & Lucas electric

Thanks!  My restored 67 6cyl has the same problem with "automatic" parking
lights.  I will check it out to see if it is from the same cause.  You have
heard the Lucas motto before--"Get home before dark"

I am new to LRO.

I presently have the following Rovers:
'67 NADA 6cyl 109 sw
'65 88 sw (previously owned by (then Governer) Senator Jay
         Rockerfeller (but I won't hold that against the vehicle)
        with FACTORY customised bulkhead modification for a
        tall driver.
'63 3 litre P5 Saloon
'91 RR

Kendall Wilson 
Lewisburg, WV
e-mail KLWatLWB@aol.com

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From: O2BATSEA@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:19:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Hi Lift Jack

All I can say is "caveat emptor"  when it comes to Rover related things. I
>first< check with the fine folk of this list before going out and buying
anything. When you do need to purchase from suppliers, call around and shop
for the best price. It's your fault you paid too much. 
BTW, The farm stores don't charge an extra 20 bucks for the damn clamp
attachment, it comes with the jack. Keep that jack lubed and out of the
weather. If it rusts, it won't work.

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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:08:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Frame enhancement

On Fri, 27 Sep 1996 robot1@juno.com wrote:

> Just spent some time helping a friend work on his Harley. He'd gone to
> the trouble of sealing the frame carefully (welded) and used the frame as
> the oil reservoir for the hog. Anyone ever tried this on a Landie? think

	Triumph did this on their motorcycles for a while.  Seen it done
	on one homemade frame here (more to have some oil splash around
	to prevent rust.

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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:59:58 -0500
From: Don Scott Wallace <swallace@flash.net>
Subject: Want to Buy, But Need Information on 1990 to 1993 Range Rover County

Second Request 

I need more input!?!?!?!?!?!?

Thanks for your time.

I was told this was the forum to ask my questions.

Please send you responses directly to me "swallace@flash.net"

my first questions follow:

I am considering the purchase of a 1991 to 1993 Range Rover County, but
I have yet to find any substantial information on the auto.  As this
will be my daily driver, I need to know if there are any nagging
problems (electrical or mech.) with the vehicle.  

In other words "what's the dirt?"

I've heard that the Lucus electrical system was put into the auto up to
some year (which yr. I'm not sure) and could be a problem.  (true/false
& which yr.)

I also need to know what the vehicle and engine's life expectancy
is.

What type of work I can do myself (alternator, water pump) or is it best
left to professionals.

Can some or many of the auto’s parts be switched out with American part
from a local parts house?

Your help will be greatly appreciated.

:-)

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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 00:15:21 -0700
From: Jon Nyhus <bmc@syspac.com>
Subject: Re: Range Rover Wheels

I have a set of Range Rover wheels from that period of time.  Its the three
spoker type that you want, right?

Regards,  Jon

>I own a 1975 Range Rover.  I want to find  4 used wheels of a 1990-1995
>Range Rover, in the United States, so if any one knows or have the wheels,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Thanks
>Jose Gonzalez

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From: "Jan Wagemaker" <wagemaker@dataweb.nl>
Subject: maiden voyage
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 09:20:35 +0100

For the first time in my life i had the"pleasure" of driving a landrover, a
III/109/ST. If they all behave like this there must 100.000's of madmen.
The thing was swerving form one side of the road to the other. The owner
told this was quite normal.
Don't believe this or is it??

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From: "Alan Logue" <logue@a011.aone.net.au>
Subject: Re: 109 Station Wagon frame
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:02:21 +0930

Its probably the chassis mounting for a steering stabiliser

alan

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> From: G.Stoneham <agscsmps@mercury.kosone.com>
> To: Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)]
> (It looks like some kind of mounting bracket similar to an upper shock
> mount but it projects down)
> Thanks.

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