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2 "Jens Vesterdahl" [jve@p44Windshield testing - joke (no LR's)
3 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us9Re: alpine window
4 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us12Re: alpine window
5 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us9Re: alpine window
6 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u37Re: Windshield testing - joke (no LR's)
7 Rob MacCormick [Rob_MacC40Long trip report
8 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us15Re: Rally -Preperation
9 twakeman@scruznet.com (T19Re: Long trip report
10 "Christopher H. Dow" [do30I was again blessed by Mr. Lucas
11 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us51Fwd: PA Trip Report (Disco Psychos)
12 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A5Re: I was again blessed by Mr. Lucas
13 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@aae.wi26Re: Seloing into MA
14 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us33You can't get there from here...
15 Nathan Dunsmore [dunsmo126Re: I was again blessed by Mr. Lucas
16 "Jens Vesterdahl" [jve@p23Re: Transfer box woes
17 kelliott@intranet.ca (Ke12Ottawa and Lucas
18 ben@bell-labs.com 35water pump blew up on my v8.
19 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@aae.wi27Re: Transfer box woes
20 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@aae.wi36Re: Lug wrenches-Broken breaker bars
21 David_R@interramp.com (D24Re: Yikes, tough crowd
22 Paul Oxley [paul@www.adv39Re: I was again blessed by Mr. Lucas
23 [DV043@OASIS.CALPOLY.EDU23Uncl: Solex or timing etc?
24 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us15Re: Uncl: Solex or timing etc?
25 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us52Fwd: VBMC Fall Rally & Bike Show
26 Michel Bertrand [mbertra20Re: Series Database
27 "fisk.spencer" [fisk@gen18Windscreen Wipers
28 johnliu@earthlink.net 22Re: Seloing into MA
29 Richard Maynard [101723.10Lug nut torque
30 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em27Stowe (very short form)
31 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em12RoverWeb / FAQ / OVLR web sites...
32 Heather Dixon [hldixon@t12Fall Foilage Tour
33 "il01 tower gateway 1%T111Undeliverable Mail
34 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em31Re: selling into Mass.
35 Ray Harder [ccray@showme20brake shoe relining and suppliers...
36 "il01 tower gateway 1%T111Undeliverable Mail
37 "johnsonm (wk)" [johnson14Cam and header question
38 johnliu@earthlink.net 16Re: Uncl: Solex or timing etc?
39 Uncle Roger [sinasohn@cr22Shore don't look like a Disco...
40 "Trevor Talbot" [fc101@m30Formula for Springs
41 ASFCO@aol.com 17Re: brake shoe relining and suppliers...
42 Uncle Roger [sinasohn@cr28Re: selling into Mass.
43 [@lucent.lucent.com 11Salisbury axles = Dana which??
44 Gordon Rea [grea@net.gov12Two 88s for the Seiries Database
45 eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heit17Marsden needs a proofreader
46 Wdcockey@aol.com 36Re: selling into Mass. (No title needed)
47 Daryl Webb [dwebb@waite.31Re: water pump blew up on my v8.
48 David Place [dplace@mb.s12Re: Formula for Springs
49 wleacock@usa.pipeline.co8[not specified]
50 dareguy@sierra.net (Russ14Valve stem seals
51 ericz@cloud9.net 30Re: roof racks
52 scooper@scooper.seanet.c12Roof vents
53 "Jan Wagemaker" [wagemak12the LRO
54 Jody Scharrenborg [jody@14Re: Valve stem seals
55 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u15Re: Marsden needs a proofreader
56 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000421Re: Removing Viscous Fan
57 "Stefan R. Jacob" [1000423Re: T-shirt logo's - bad news.
58 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M14Re: You can't get there from here...
59 Paul Nash [paul@frcs.alt13Land Rover databane


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 13:11:41 
From: "Jens Vesterdahl" <jve@phaseone.dk>
Subject: Windshield testing - joke (no LR's)

Hi all.

I just got this one in my mail. Though the joke is on the Brits, I can't believe 
it's true. Anyway it had me chuckling and giggling for some time, so here goes:

****************************************************

     FYI. - An ABSOLUTELY TRUE STORY

       In a recent issue of "Meat & Poultry" magazine, editors quoted from
     "Feathers," the publication of the California Poultry Industry
     Federation, telling the following story:

       It seems the US Federal Aviation Administration has a unique device
     for testing the strength of windshields on airplanes.  The device is a
     gun that launches a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at
     approximately the speed the plane flies.

      The theory is that if the windshield doesn't crack from the carcass
     impact, it'll survive a real collision with a bird during flight.  It
     seems the British were very interested in this and wanted to test a
     windshield on a brand new, speedy locomotive they're developing.

      They borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded the chicken and
     fired. The ballistic chicken shattered the windshield, went through
     the engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel and embedded itself in
     the back wall of the engine cab.  The British were stunned and asked
     the FAA to recheck the test to see if everything was done correctly.

     The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and had one recommendation: "Use
     a thawed chicken."

*****************************************************

Happy Rovering

Jens Vesterdahl
1972 109 STW
Copenhagen, Denmark

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 8:13:07 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: alpine window

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph owner.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 8:09:06 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: alpine window

How does it go in those Bud Light ads on TV... "I love you, man" !
You have made my day.
I will be there on Saturday 
Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph owner.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 8:09:38 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: alpine window

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph owner.

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Windshield testing - joke (no LR's)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 13:24:25 BST

> Hi all.
> I just got this one in my mail. Though the joke is on the Brits, I can't believe 
> it's true. Anyway it had me chuckling and giggling for some time, so here goes:

This particular version is actually apocryphal. The original version
(as published in New Scientist and similar magazines years ago) refers to
the Gas Turbine APT in the early '70s. The FAA have nothing to do with it.
The BR research place is Derby, and the big gun is loaned from British
Aerospace "up the road" who test cockpit windscreens with it.

The chicken went into the leading carriage, through the middle "power" unit,
and exited out the rear carriage. The result was a few million pound
(70s prices) gas turbine being written off.
A rather expensive hole, as they say.

Standard embroidering of the story includes "oh we just pop out to 
Sainsbury's get this chicken - and fire it at our plane" and the like.

Think about it, why would BR even talk to the FAA? British Aerospace is
a tad more likely, isn't it?   :-)

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

 
> ****************************************************
>      FYI. - An ABSOLUTELY TRUE STORY
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>      gun that launches a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at
>      approximately the speed the plane flies.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:48:51 -0400
From: Rob MacCormick <Rob_MacCormick@Harvard.Edu>
Subject: Long trip report

We just returned late last night from a weekend on Martha's Vineyard (Island
off the coast of MA, USA).....We took our dormobile and were happy to
utilize several of its features...Took to the sand on Saturday for a tour of
South beach...This was the first off roading we had done in the LR and I was
eager to learn the differences between this vehicle and other 4x4's I had
driven....I confirmed some theories I had... sand increases you turning
radius (hard to believe anything could increase the turning radius  of a
leaf sprung 109) "turning on a dime" wasn't a characteristic that came to
mind....Graceful arcs however were sufficient to get us where we were
going....The narrow track of the LR barely "fit" established troughs through
the sand...(all the more reason to stray from the established
track)...During one sweeping turn I started to sink (the product of spinning
wheels and a lack of motion)... As visions of waves crashing against the
side sprung to mind low range crawled us back out...I later told my wife
inexperience got us stuck and experience got us out.....All in all a very
relaxing venture onto the sand....Further reduced pressures would have
improved performance, but the trade off for pavement manners was worth the
compromise.....I reinforced my love of floating through sand, where the
bumps are spongy and the harshness of potholes and the like are nonexistent
(boingboingboooiing vs. slam slam SLAM).....Not unlike skiing bumps in deep
snow....Other highlights included thanking the hosts of the wedding
reception that we attended and walking the 30 or so steps to bed. We fiddled
the curtains into place and it turned out to be a pleasant departure from
sun-up get-up....Coming off the ferry in a downpour we had the opportunity
to perform leak location verification, Hmmm maybe easier to take stock of
non-leak areas.......Sightings  for the weekend included a handful of D90's,
a couple of Discos, a few Range Rovers, and a series 88"...a wave was
returend by one of the Rangies and we followed a Disco last night around
midnight for about 15-20 miles in a downpour....

Still chin scrathin' on a name......The "inducer" or "efacer" came to mind
as the harsh ride might just speed up delivery of our first child (only a
couple more monthes to go!)

Sorry for the long winded post....Rob M Concord, MA USA

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 9:21:53 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: Rally -Preperation

A vehicle that's been sitting for ten years probably needs the following:
New battery
New tires, unless it has been stored on stands
Change out of ALL fluids, especially driveline
Thorough greasing of all zerks

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph owner.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 06:25:19 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Long trip report

At  8:48 AM 9/23/96 -0400, Rob MacCormick wrote:
>...Further reduced pressures would have
>improved performance, but the trade off for pavement manners was worth the
>compromise..
;
Rob
The ARB air pump can double/or be used exclusivly to inflate tyres.  The
pump is rugged and very small.  Its often mounted under the bonnet.  It
would allow you to properly air down for sand and air up as soon as you get
out.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 06:50:12 -0700
From: "Christopher H. Dow" <dow@thelen.org>
Subject: I was again blessed by Mr. Lucas

	On Labor Day weekend (1st weekend of Sep. here in the U.S.), I had an
electrical fire which took out my headlamps.  I posted about this, as some
of you may recall.  I've been pretty busy at work since then, so I took it
to my mechanic to fix (besides, I was not sure I was ready to deal with
Lucas electrics).  He fixed it up ok.  On Saturday night, I was returning
from dropping my son off at a friend's house for a sleepover, when I
smelled that smell again.  The next thing I knew, my "Main Beam" light was
on even though I hadn't depressed the switch, and I became certain that I
had a fire.  When I pulled over, I (again --this is just like last time!)
found no evidence of a fire, but now my "Main Beam" light is always on if
the lights are--although I don't think the high beams actually are on.  The
mechanic replaced the wiring for the light and replaced the switch on the
floor, but I think I have a more systemic problem since I keep having these
fires.  One thing to note is that the vehicle is now negative ground (I
converted it thanks to the note on the Rovers North web page, some notes
from Bob Boylen, and notes from a friend).  Any suggestions (other than
getting a fire extinguisher and carrying around spares for all the parts
that are frying)?
	I've never had a vehicle that gave me such trouble, yet retained my love
and affection as this one does.

Thanks,
Chris
'65 IIA 88" SW
'96 Disco

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 10:01:30 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Fwd: PA Trip Report (Disco Psychos)

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph owner.

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  To: dc-cycles@cs.umd.edu
  From: "Gil M. Nissley" <gnissley@pafosu1.hq.af.mil>

  Hi all,
    I just got back from my vacation in my hometown in PA(Telford,if
anyone has any idea where that is).It had it's ups and downs.
    UPS:The weather was pretty good for the most part.Not much rain
and not too hot.The roads were way cool.Lots of backroad twisties
with little/no traffic and nice sceanery.Most of them were even in
good shape(amazing for PA).I also got to go to my first hillclimb in
Freemansburg.I'd only ever seen them on TV before.After looking up
the hill I made up my mind that I was not going to try hillclimbing
for my next hobby.It was almost straight up!The surprising part was
the bikes that made the best runs.They were 2 stroke singles.There
were only 3 Harleys,and one of them didn't even make it up.A couple
of the bikes were also running mixtures with model airplane fuel.
Phew.Every gnat within a five mile radius was dead by the end of the
day.ESPN was covering the event.I don't know if it was live or if you
can still catch it on TV.
    DOWNS:I had a couple close calls with some BDC's.If you're on the 
and see a pair of Land Rover Discoverys(one white,one green)pull over
and let 'em pass.They're psychos(they also have VA tags with close
#'s).I reported them to the cops,but don't know if they got them.I
also had the neg lead on my battery snap twice.Once at a light,once
when comming down I95 at about 70mph in the pouring rain.Not fun.Can
you say 'time for another recall'? :-P
    Well,I'd like to say it's nice to be home again,but I'd be lying
to you all.Anyone notice a difference in local drivers since that
guy got convicted for the GW Parkway mess?

The official Wash HD BuellBoy Genes model.

gnissley@pafosu1.hq.af.mil   Buell S1 Ltng   GATB#1121    HSB#38DT 

"Always mount a scratch monkey."    Vax Tech   

"But pessimism IS realism!"    D.L.Bahr 

"Auto-Darwin the ignorant."    D. Sorenson

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 23 Sep 96 10:15:29 EDT
Subject: Re: I was again blessed by Mr. Lucas

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@aae.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:25:37 -6
Subject: Re: Seloing into MA 

Mark worries:
> Anyone in Massachusetts help with this ????
snip
> Can anyone give the low down on selling into MASS. 
snip
> I'm sort of put off about this, as I think the buyer may be an attorney !!!! 
> Last thing I want is a law suit. 
-
If I recall rightly, as long as you disclose to the buyer anything 
that you know about that is wrong with the vehicle, you should be 
safe. But I'm not a lawyer.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@aae.wisc.edu                

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 10:22:15 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: You can't get there from here...

OK, I guess I have been lucky long enough. This weekend was one of those 
where everything I touched turned to s**t, at least as far as the truck 
is concerned.
First of all I busted an alpine window. Heartbreak.
Then I decided to check into a sluggish starter. My first time at this 
chore.
For those interested in diesel starters (the Schwartzenegger of 
Lucas-dom), I can tell you that removal of one of these monsters is no 
fun at all. First of all, the bolts are placed so that you cannot 
possibly reach them. Second, in order to get it out you have to remove 
the intake and exhaust manifolds and the dipstick!
Who dreamed that one up!
Alright so now the unit sits on my bench and I begin to tear it apart. 
Armature is cruddy so I decide to take it all down and clean it out. A 
marginal brush wire gave up its fight for life. A brush spring does a 
half-gainer into outer space and I spend ten minutes looking for it. 
Black greasy slime is everywhere.
Suffice it to say that it took a good part of the day to get it  cleaned 
up and put back together. Should run great now eh?
Put everything back together, hit the key and.......nothing, just the 
plaintive click of a worn-out solenoid.
Now the truck is more or less out of commission until I can get a part 
from RN that will take a week to arrive. Ain't this stuff great?

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph Trophy owner?

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:21:06 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: I was again blessed by Mr. Lucas

Christopher H. Dow wrote:
>  On Saturday night, I was returning
> from dropping my son off at a friend's house for a sleepover, when I
> smelled that smell again.  The next thing I knew, my "Main Beam" light was
> on even though I hadn't depressed the switch, 

> but now my "Main Beam" light is always on if
> the lights are--although I don't think the high beams actually are on.  The
> mechanic replaced the wiring for the light and replaced the switch on the
> floor, but I think I have a more systemic problem since I keep having these
> fires.  One thing to note is that the vehicle is now negative ground 

Two words spring to mind: Voltage Regulator

It may be worth replacing it to see if it fixes the problem.  It could
cause
your generator to go out if you let it go (it did mine).
-- 
Nate Dunsmore
88" SIIa ("The Blue Brick" http://members.aol.com/naddmd/first.htm )
dunsmo19@us.net

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 15:22:57 
From: "Jens Vesterdahl" <jve@phaseone.dk>
Subject: Re: Transfer box woes

Hi all.

Erik van Dyck wrote:

- Any hints on putting this thing together?  I've got my piece of string and 
- fish scale ready for the setting of the preload this time, after finding it
- was much too low last time. That will teach me to just reinstall the original
- shims. Any other hints that will save me from having to take it all apart
- a third time would be appreciated!

I'm all ears too! My rear bearing is loose and I can't make up my mind if I 
should fix it before winter. If there's nothing to it, I might actually do it 
soon.

Happy Rovering.

Jens Vesterdahl
Copenhagen, Denmark

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:49:19 -0400
From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott)
Subject: Ottawa and Lucas

Hi all...

        I took a tour of the new Canadian friget the HMCS Ottawa this
weekend and burst into laughter when I saw an electrical box with the name
LUCAS in big letters on it. Jeesh I guess us Canuks will never learn! :)

Keith

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From: ben@bell-labs.com
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:44:10 -0400
Subject: water pump blew up on my v8.

what a weekend..  went to Cape May hoping to camp/surf/sail this
weekend,  ended up working on the Landie most of it.

The pump blew up on the way from the camp to the shore first thing Sat.
Seems like the front seal went.  Take-off - 30 mins., look for parts
("Range what???") - 5 mins, just to say I tried.   Tried to remember RN
number, no good.  Found Eric's number, maybe he had one in stock.  But
the guy is out partying somewhere... no luck.  A local parts store found
a rebuilt one they could get for me on Monday - $220  !!  The parts guy
tried not to chuckle, but then lost it and started laughing out loud.
Honest.

So I borrowed a car, drove home (130 miles, tore the pump off the
spare'91 RR motor, drove back).  Sunday we packed up, went to the truck,
and I installed it.  Everything is A-OK now, except for the slight
pulley mismatch, better get the spare belt, I guess...

Here's what I was thinking, though...  As the front seal on a pump
breaks, the water comes out the little 1/4" hole on the bottom side.
Every pump I've seen has that - why?   Why bother dumping the coolant
when the seal goes?   And if I tapped/plugged it, could have I made it
back?  I seem to remember epoxying that hole on an Alfa many years back.
It lasted a couple of weeks until the new one arrived.

Also, has anyone try to rebuild one?  Any spare v8 pumps out there??
Eric? 

Still, LR is the best :)
Jan

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@aae.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:48:55 -6
Subject: Re: Transfer box woes

Erik van Dyck asks:
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> shims.    Any other hints that will save me from having to take it all apart
> a third time would be appreciated!
-
It won't keep you from having to do it in the future, but will make 
it easier if you ever need to rebuild it, or another one.
Save the transfer box output shaft front bearing outer race. 
Grind down the OD a bit, then cut a slot in it slightly larger than 
the shaft diameter. This sort of tool is the only way to get the 
front bearing out without damaging it. I painted mine bright yellow so 
I wouldn't acidentally throw it out with junk bearings.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@aae.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@aae.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:06:00 -6
Subject: Re: Lug wrenches-Broken breaker bars

I must admit, all this talk seems a bit silly. True, the people at tire 
shops too often over tighten lug nuts. Solution? When you get home 
loosen them and torgue them properly (90ftlbs).This will prevent suprises
in the field This is especially important for disk brakes, as unevenly 
torqued lug nuts will warp your rotors. 

Lug nuts also don't self tighten, so you should never have difficulty 
loosening them in the field if you've checked them at home. The only 
thing that might cause that is rust. The solution to that is NeverSeeze.
I recoat my wheel studs about once every five years and I can scew the 
nuts all the way down by hand if I want.
IMPORTANT! If you have white spoke wheels don't 
use NeverSeeze, it's hard enough keeping the nuts tight with white 
spokes. The wheel material doesn't crush (like regular stamped 
wheels) to cause a locking force on the nut.

I've been using a ratchet for a wheel brace for over twenty years 
with never a problem, in all kinds of condidtions. Having your 
vehicle properly prepared is the name of the game when off-roading. 
That includes properly torqued lug nuts.
Well, that's *my* two cents worth.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@aae.wisc.edu                

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:14:29 -0400
From: David_R@interramp.com (David Russell)
Subject: Re: Yikes, tough crowd

Chris, Thanks for the support ;-)
 I *really* am looking for an 88" in the Maryland area so that I can become
a *full* member of the list.

David

>Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:53:41 -0400 (EDT)
>From: cmw@tiac.net (Christopher Weinbeck)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>you
>done with them?

snip, snip

>Chris
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>    (o)    (o)  '69 109" RHD OD 2.6 Dormobile        professional
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:23:49 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <paul@www.adventures.co.za>
Subject: Re: I was again blessed by Mr. Lucas

Christopher H. Dow wrote:
>         On Labor Day weekend (1st weekend of Sep. here in the U.S.), I had an
> electrical fire which took out my headlamps.  I posted about this, as some
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 27 lines)]
> '65 IIA 88" SW
> '96 Disco

Hi Christopher,

OK, first things first, I'm assuming that it's not the Disco that's ill
(although I'm sure thats conceivable - it also being "blessed" with the
factory installed Lucas vehicular immobilising system).

You'll probably find that if you can't trace the short ('cos on a '65
model the electrics are so simple that's all it really can be), then
it's probably the main wiring harness that travels down inside the
chassis to the rear of the vehicle. On this vintage vehicle the
insulation has probably been rubbed through allowing one or more of the
taillight wires to deadshort on the chassis. I've had this happen on a
'74 SIII as well.

Easiest solution is get a coupla metres (yards for the colonials) of 7
core cabtyre (the type you use to wire trailers), find where the
existing harness goes into the chassis (either end will do, although
it's better to choose the end that provides easier access), cut the
harness straight through, bind the end of the harness to the end of the
7 core (neatly, without making a big join), and pull the old harness out
the other end (and the new 7 core with it). Now connect up the wires
again using a crimping tool and lugs and voila.

Much luck

Paul Oxley
paul@www.adventures.co.za

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Date: 23 Sep 96 09:49:07 PDT
From: <DV043@OASIS.CALPOLY.EDU>
Subject: Uncl: Solex or timing etc?

From: John W. Henricks, Programmer/Analyst
      Institutional Studies
      01-309

Something's wrong.  Yesterday Ulysses stopped.  My 62 SIIA 109 died on a
overpass.  I was able to start it and get home using the choke, but when
I use the accelerator it coughs and dies. I went through the carb, it
appears to be fine, but...

Any ideas?

Replies appreciated.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Net:  jhenrick@calpoly.edu
Tel:  (805)756-5408
Fax:  (805)756-5292

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 13:20:11 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: Uncl: Solex or timing etc?

Just a thought...dirt.
Running well and then suddenly stopping is symptomatic of lack of one of 
the three basic ingredients of fuel, air and spark. 
Since you have air and spark, you must be short on fuel.  Choking helped 
the 'draw' enough to get some fuel into the carb.
Try clearing the fuel line and checking inside the float bowl for crud.
Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph Trophy owner ?

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 13:29:30 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Fwd: VBMC Fall Rally & Bike Show

For those who'll be in the area for the Mid Atlantic Rally and need an 
infusion of MORE british mechanical wackiness, see below....

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel.
Soon to be Triumph Trophy owner ?

* * * * * * ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS * * * * *

  To: thumper@dorje.com, clubhouse@kickstart.com, brit-iron@indiana.edu
  From: jwc@interactive.visa.com (Jim W. Carr)

                 VIRGINIA BRITISH MOTORCYCLE CLUB

                  BRITISH & EUROPEAN MOTORCYCLES

                      Sunday, October 6, 1996

                         Richmond, Virginia

                         10:00 am - 4:00 pm

                           rain or shine

                           - Swap Meet
                           - bike show
                  (judging at 1:00 awards at 3:00)
                   - trophies, awards and prizes
              - classic motorcycle parts, new & used
                    - food, accessories, t-shirts
                         - motorcycle games

                         ADMISSION $ 5.00
                      Children under 12 free
                       no pets or camping

                        Location of Rally:

          East of Mechanicsville (same location as last year)
                1/4 mile south of hwy 360e and rt 615
                 from I-95 follow I-295 toward I-64E
       Exit hwy 360E & go ~ 4 miles to intersection 360E & rt 615
                   Follow signs to Rally site entrance

                       Info: (540) 730-7724
         

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:15:27 -0400
From: Michel Bertrand <mbertran@InterLinx.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Series Database

25414857C,1963,IIa,109,Rudolph,limestone,Quebec,Canada,dd,unk,
mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca,lro-net, LHD;  P-U cab and full length canvas
top;Neg ground;headers;overdrive;1-ton  suspension;deluxe bonnet
w/tire;owned since 1991; restored in 1994;changed everything

Michel Bertrand
						______
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, 		       /    __
					      /        \
1963 109 PU (Rudolph)	   		     | Lucas    |
1968 109 SW (in the works)		     |  Inside  |
1973 88 SW (21st century project)	      \        /
					       \______/

mbertran@interlinx.qc.ca <<---- Note new address!

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From: "fisk.spencer" <fisk@gene.COM>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:15:20 -0800
Subject: Windscreen Wipers

Hello all,

  I need to replace my windscreen wipers, and seem to recall that MG wiper
blades are a match, but can't remember what year/type to get.  I can
remember seeing a post from Dixon, but can't access my mail archive. 
Can someone pont me in the right direction??

TIA,

Spencer Fisk

1965 IIA 109 2dr

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From: johnliu@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:51:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Seloing into MA

If your buyer is a lawyer and already making noises about possible claims
under the Mass law, I would steer clear.  Whether or not his future claim or
lawsuit is justified, it can cause you a lot of grief and why bother with
someone like that.  You are selling an old Land Rover which is bound to have
things wrong with it that someone can make a fuss about.  If you want to
proceed, you'd better know what the Mass law says (read the law, don't rely
on others) and precede the sale with a letter clearly telling the
prospective buyer everything that is or may be wrong with the car and then
adding that it is a 30+ year old British car which may have plenty more
problems that you do not know about, and that he is buying at his own risk
and after having had the opportunity to have a professional inspection.  If
he writes you back to argue, then he is definitely trouble.
John Y. Liu johnliu@earthlink.net or 101670,2635@compuserve.com
via HP20OLX, Nettamer, and acCIS

Net-Tamer V 1.06H For HP100/200 & OG700 - Registered

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Date: 23 Sep 96 14:52:26 EDT
From: Richard Maynard <101723.414@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Lug nut torque

Dear All,
Just a quicky. What figure should I torque the lug nuts up to on a SIII LWB 
using standard steel wheels with 7.50 x 16 tyres?
Cheers,
Rich.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:13:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Stowe (very short form)

	British Invasion at Stowe Vermont this past weekend.

-	38+ Series Land Rovers on the field, a few outside parked
	was the most represented vehicle there, outdoing the second
	greatest, the chrome bumbered MGB's. (No idea on number of post
	1984 Land Rover products).  3 LR clubs there (GMLRC, BSROA, OVLR)

-	Tug of War was won this year by the Mini owners over the traditional
	winners, the Land Rover owners.  The Mini owners this year, 
	unknown to us at the time, tied a Moke to their end, put five 
	guys in it and locked up the brakes.  LR owners still pulled them
	forward until the Moke fired up its engine and started trying to 
	drive forward.  Moke was carried off by LR owners afterwards.
	Mini owners declined the opportunity to carry off a LR of any type.

-	Concours award to a '62 88" used for agricultural spraying 
	continuously since new (chap has an 86" before that).  In excellent
	condition (never used in the winter), though been through three
	gearboxes etc.  

-	Stainless steel 109 there (Frame, petrol tank, doors, bulkhead,
	etc.), pair of lightweights.  Lots of 88's.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:27:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: RoverWeb / FAQ / OVLR web sites...

	Ridgecrest is in the process of being privatised from local
	government ownership.  As a result the web pages etc that were
	on www.ridgecrest.ca.us have had to move.  Both sets of pages are
	now located at:

	http://www.off-road.com/RoverWeb/	and
	http://www.off-road.com/OVLR/

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:30:49 -0700
From: Heather Dixon <hldixon@top.monad.net>
Subject: Fall Foilage Tour

Fall Foilage Tour; Ocotber 12; Keene, New Hampshire

Meet 10 am Dunkin Donuts (RT 101 & Rt 10)

Interested ???

Heather

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:01:27 -0500
From: "il01 tower gateway 1%T1MGW" <il01_tower_gateway_1%T1MGW@email.mot.com>
Subject: Undeliverable Mail

Message: Re: I was again blessed by Mr. Lucas
Sent: Mon, Sep 23, 1996 10:47 AM
On Server: IL01 Corp Quality
Date: Mon, Sep 23, 1996 11:54 AM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server 
could not be found.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:38:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: selling into Mass.

On Sun, 22 Sep 1996 JDolan2109@aol.com wrote:

> war of wits; they're all haunted in the least. My LR, 'Nicky', is the "Lemon
> from Hell", but I'll go outside and start it up with the crank, and drive it
> back up to Stowe. It's a good show, again. Dixon has his beastie there with
> 'new?' motor and a novel method of inspecting the coolant level without
> taking off the rad cap....

	The beastie made it to and from Stowe without a problem (besides
	leaving a bit of a trail of 20w50 from a leaking fuel pump)  Not
	too bad considering the engine only got built the previous week,
	dropped in on Wednesday, given life (sort of) thursday night,
	and timed (more or less, 180 degrees out) at 9am Friday morning 
	in time for the 9:30 departure for the bunch of us from Ottawa.
	Motor is a composite affair, that cost approx $43 in gasoline to 
	collect the shortblock (The stuff south of Sudbury I grabbed two
	weeks ago).  Actually used some new gaskets in the thing (but not
	in the thermostat housing (oops)).  Retorqued it on the showfield,
	but this didn't look too much out of place.  I noticed a number 
	of Land Rovers being attended to there... :-)

	Rgds,

	Dixon

	PS Thanks for the offer of help if it had died...

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:41:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ray Harder <ccray@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: brake shoe relining and suppliers...

there was a machine shop here in town that would
reline my brake shoes for $15.99 per axle -- they are
no longer in business.   rovers north gets $40 for a new
set and you throw away the old ones.  this is counter
intuitive to me as i like to recycle when possible.
the machine shop i go to has all the equipment, and he would 
let me reline my shoes at his shop (i have done
it in the past and it is a good stress reliever)  but he has run
out of supplies and doesn't know a good source.
i need a supplier for linings and brass rivets.  i have access
to the tools.  any ideas...

Sincerely,

Ray Harder 

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:10:12 -0500
From: "il01 tower gateway 1%T1MGW" <il01_tower_gateway_1%T1MGW@email.mot.com>
Subject: Undeliverable Mail

Message: Fwd: PA Trip Report (Disco Psychos)
Sent: Mon, Sep 23, 1996 10:47 AM
On Server: IL01 Corp Quality
Date: Mon, Sep 23, 1996 12:04 PM
Reason: Could not be delivered because the destination Microsoft Mail server 
could not be found.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:56:57 -0400
From: "johnsonm (wk)" <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Cam and header question

I was wondering if anyone has used a performance cam for a 2.25 P and/or
a set of headers.  I would be interested in knowing about your
experience with both/either.  I may go with a new performance cam if I
can't find a used one here on the net.
-- 
Mike Johnson N7WBO
74 SIII 88 (Chester)  Daily Driver?
73 SIII 88 (Jezabel)  Parts (just not the right ones)
http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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From: johnliu@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:14:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Uncl: Solex or timing etc?

Jon, (hi there), a somewhat similar thing happened to me with that truck
about 1 month before you got it, and the mechanics found and tightened a
loose jet in the carb.  It would start but giving gas would kill it.  Seems
unlikely it would loosen up again but worth a look.

How was the vacation?  Reply by email if you prefer.
John Y. Liu johnliu@earthlink.net or 101670,2635@compuserve.com
via HP20OLX, Nettamer, and acCIS

Net-Tamer V 1.06H For HP100/200 & OG700 - Registered

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:37:31 -0700
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Shore don't look like a Disco...

Was mucking around with Alta Vista's "Surprise" links (Great fun, really!),
and after the 2nd or 3rd time clicking on "wheels" I found myself at a Land
Rover page.  It was one of the many autoshop places that have popped up on
the web.  So I clicked on discovery, and found myself looking at a picture
of a D90SW with the heading "1996 Discovery".  To be fair, further down on
the page was a picture of a real disco, but still...

URL is
<http://www.photoad.com/autoline/new96/96htms/landrover/discovery.htm> for
them what's interested.

--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 21:24:32 UT
From: "Trevor Talbot" <fc101@msn.com>
Subject: Formula for  Springs

David
    These figures are copied from genuine Land Rover Workshop Manual for Right 
Hand Drive 88 petrol
 88 Petrol ,rear.                                  Drivers side                
   Passenger side

  No of leaves                                      11                         
        11
  Width of leaves                                  21/2 inch                   
     21/2 inch
  Static load (vehicle unladen)               690 lbs                          
 580 lbs
Camber under static load                      3 1/4 inch                       
 3 1/4 inch
Free camber                                        7.42 inch                   
     6.75 inch

   I'm not sure but I think you change the springs over for a Left Hand Drive, 
maybe some one can confirm this . Hope this is of some help.
   
    Trevor      101 f/c  GS
                    88 swb
                    Series 1 swb   

         

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:44:46 -0400
Subject: Re: brake shoe relining and suppliers...

In a message dated 96-09-23 15:44:13 EDT, you write:

> rovers north gets $40 for a new
>set and you throw away the old ones.  this is counter
>intuitive to me as i like to recycle when possible.

Just thought you'd like to know
Rovers North now gets $ 57 for new shoes/axle
even more of an incentive to get them relined...
Rgds
Steve

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:13:10 -0700
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: selling into Mass.

At 09:58 AM 9/22/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Mark Talbot was inquiring about his pending sale of a 109 to a couple in
>Mass. I'd bag it, myself, they sound like what you describe, but what won't
[...]
>expenses?). In reality, tell them its a 1964 Land Rover, and it's guaranteed
>to break, piss them off, drive them crazy, and take over their lives. It's a

I agree.  I was at an auction of surplus Compupro computer equipment
presided over by Bill Godbout, and he offered one lot of used power supplies
-- "guaranteed broken; if you get them home and they work, bring 'em back
and we'll break 'em for you."  He then proceeded to drop them (just to make
sure) and the bidding went crazy.

I'd call 'em up tell 'em it's guaranteed to break down on the way home, and
the price just went up $2K.  Or, if they like, you can make sure it won't
even start, but that'll cost extra.

--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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From: <@lucent.lucent.com:ben@bell-labs.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:10:13 -0400
Subject: Salisbury axles = Dana which??

sorry sorry sorry... was snoozing anagin... what Dana R+P will fit
the Salisbury carrier again??
thanks and sorry for not paying attention.. sorry sorry...

Jan

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:38:33 -0700
From: Gordon Rea <grea@net.gov.bc.ca>
Subject: Two 88s for the Seiries Database

24416236B,1965,IIa,88,Sherpa,Leopard,Vancouver,Canada,dr,unk,grea@net.gov.bc.ca,lro-net,Warn
8k# winch;for sale
25902971B,1974,III,88,Feznal,Pastel
Green,Vancouver,Canada,dd,unk,grea@net.gov.bc.ca,lro-net,Galvanized
frame;WARN 8k# winch;OD;Galv Rack;dual batteries;late IIa grill
-- 
Cheers, Gordon

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:50:29 -0500
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: Marsden needs a proofreader

Peter Marsden was discussing impact drivers and then he said:

Also on my shopping list - a particularly long handled wench!

Mine, too, but how does this relate to spanners?   /;-)

 _______
 |___|__\__==
 | _ |  |  --]   Ned Heite, Camden, DE 19934        <DARWIN><
 =(O)-----(O)=                                        "   "

                             

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 19:00:06 -0400
Subject: Re: selling into Mass. (No title needed)

Heather writes:
>After a vehicle is 10 years old in the State of NH you no longer need a 
>title when selling it, just a bill of sale.

You may not need a title as far as NH is concerned, but other states have
their own ideas. Most states are far happier with a title.

We bought both our LRs from NH, and have titled both in MI. The first was
purchased from the son of the original owner. It had never been titled in NH,
but did come with the title from Penn. from when ownership was transferred to
the son. The folks at the Sec. of State in MI decided to ignore NH and use
the Penn. title.

The second didn't come with a title, just the NH registration and a notarized
bill of sale. The MI folks were confused by the verbage on NH in the standard
handbook of state motor vehicle registration/titling regulations. They were
talking about sworn statements, bonds, VIN number checks by the state police,
etc. for a while. Finally I found the phrase about older vehicles not
requiring a title, and a MI title was issued.

So life may be simpler if a valid title is provided, even if NH doesn't
require it.

Regards,
David Cockey
Rochester, MI
'60 SII 88" SW (ex NH, ex PA)
'60 SII 88" PU (ex NH)

 

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From: Daryl Webb <dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: water pump blew up on my v8.
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:20:45 +0930 (CST)

Big "bad" Ben writes Re V8 water pumps:

> A local parts store found a rebuilt one they could get for me on Monday 
> - $220  !!

Hmm, 220 US is around 280-300 AUD right.  When I *had* to get a pump the 
day before my wedding back in 1990 it cost me over $400 OZ, granted it 
was brand new but.....

> The parts guy tried not to chuckle, but then lost it and started 
> laughing out loud. Honest.

Mine just smiled....

Dont forget there are 2 (maybe more) different shaft lengths for the V8 
pumps, I think the factory stage 1 used the longer one.

P.S.  a 3.5" stroke crank with 2.5" mains weighs ~ 25 KG (55-60lb) and 
will cost about the same as a rebuilt water pump, + freight.

cheers

-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:24:49 -0700
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Formula for  Springs

Trevor Talbot wrote:
> David
>     These figures are copied from genuine Land Rover Workshop Manual for Right
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 27 lines)]
>                     88 swb
>                     Series 1 swb
> Thanks.  I knew there was someone out there with the info I needed.

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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:59:12 GMT
Subject: Models
From: wleacock@usa.pipeline.com (William L. Leacock)

Our local Walmart is carrying a 90 boxed with a ford explorer, cost $9.95.
The 90 used to be sold on its own at 4.99, they are made by Lanard and have
a string type wind up action. 
 Regards  Bill Leacock  Limey in exile.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 19:53:45 -0700
From: dareguy@sierra.net (Russ Potts)
Subject: Valve stem seals

As far as I can tell I am going to have to replace the valve stem seals in
my 1972 88. Is it possible to pump compressed air into the cylinder to hold
the valves in place while the springs are removed? How much air pressure
should I keep in the cylinder?

Thanks

Russ
1972 Series III '88

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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:31:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: roof racks

On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Harincar@mooregs.com (Tim Harincar-MS) wrote:
>Hi all,

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]

>Hi all,
>Anyone out there constructed their own roof rack? 

I've done it..and tought myself to weld at the same time.  Cost me about $100 
for the materials and you can get a small MIG welder for about $200 (rental, if 
available, might be cheaper).  I used 3/4" square tubing and just set it out on 
the garage floor in the shape/size I wanted and built up from there.
>Oh, and I can't weld. I was thinking of using galvanized pipe, but how to   
>attach it to the gutters?

Welding with a MIG (or even a plain wire feed) is relatively easy and its a 
great skill to aquire.  I used 2" wide flat stock for the uprights into the 
gutters with a clamp constructed out of the same with a bend in it.  A bolt 
between the two clamps it onto the gutter.

E-mail me direc if you'd like a more complete description.

Rgds,
Eric

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 20:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: scooper@scooper.seanet.com (Sandy Cooper)
Subject: Roof vents

Gudaye folks, just wondering if anyone out there has at hand the placement
measurements or exact location on the roof of an 88 hardtop to install the
roof vents??  I do not have the tropical skin as of yet, I do however, have
the vents and have been iching to put these guys in for a while.  Do not
want to place them in the incorrect location (it might be hard to open the
vents if they are not lined up with the top correctly!!  Perhaps I should
wait and find a tropical skin first.  Thanks          John Cooper 1969 11a swb

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From: "Jan Wagemaker" <wagemaker@dataweb.nl>
Subject: the LRO
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:50:41 +0200

As a new member of the Internet and nearly a new member of the LRO family I
have a question.
Am about to buy a 109/pick-up/6cyl, but am curious as to how sturdy the
thing is. Does it need a rolloverbar to drive safely since the hood is a
such a flimsy thing?
Comments?????

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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:45:47 +0200
From: Jody Scharrenborg <jody@cyberlab.nl>
Subject: Re: Valve stem seals

>As far as I can tell I am going to have to replace the valve stem seals in
>my 1972 88. Is it possible to pump compressed air into the cylinder to hold
>the valves in place while the springs are removed?

My LR-repairman told me that it is possible when you use the right tools.
Don't know how much pressure you'll need.
I remember a trick somebody posted last spring - putting a few inches of
rope into the cyl. to push up the valve- maybe this trick could be posted
again?

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Marsden needs a proofreader
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 96 8:55:39 BST

> Peter Marsden was discussing impact drivers and then he said:
> Also on my shopping list - a particularly long handled wench!
> Mine, too, but how does this relate to spanners?   /;-)

Talking about proof-readers, my name is *Richard*.

And I'm not guilty of Freudian slips - *ever*!   :-)

*Richard*     (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

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Date: 24 Sep 96 04:19:26 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Removing Viscous Fan 

>1. I know that its reverse threaded - It still will not move
>2. A couple of people suggested special tool number:(a hammer=!)
>   I thought of this but was a bit reluctant as the fan is attached to the

The hammer-&-chisel approach might be ok for the crankshaft pulley, but the
water pump is a rather delicate unit, and its aluminum casing won't take such
treatment kindly, either.
I know from past experiences that that fan can be a pig to get off. If all
else (except the hammer) fails, the last resort is to take off the entire
pump and hold the shaft/impeller from behind. *Don't* squash the impeller
into a vice, it will break.Fixate it some other way (use your imagination).
Must warn you though that I know of one case where even then the nut wouldn't
yield, it had to be sawed and cracked off...

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: 24 Sep 96 04:19:22 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: T-shirt logo's - bad news.

From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>

> I believe that by having your club join the ARC in the UK, you will be
> entitled to use the LR logo for non-profit purposes.  Apparently the
> ARC and its member clubs have been granted this right by Land Rover.

I know that the _ARC_ is entitled to use the logo, not sure about the
affiliated clubs, though. Try contacting Geof Miller of the RRR (Range Rover 
Register) via http://www.apricot.co.uk/hosts/arc/, alternatively by bla-mail 
(telly-phone) (+44) 1789 73 1669 . Geof is also ARC's press & publicity man,
so he should know (shouldn't he?)

> Of course, when in doubt ask Dixon :)
or if you're not in doubt and want to be given doubts... :-}

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:03:46 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: You can't get there from here...

 I can tell you that removal of one of these monsters is no
>fun at all. First of all, the bolts are placed so that you cannot
>possibly reach them. Second, in order to get it out you have to remove
>the intake and exhaust manifolds and the dipstick!
Why Bill? Is it because the wagon is LHD? I can get my starter out
by itself.Pull it forward,round the dipstick and lift it over the
generator.Incidentally,its worth earthing the thing to the chassis
with an individual earth strap,if one isnt there already.
Mike Rooth

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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:09:23 +1000
From: Paul Nash <paul@frcs.alt.za>
Subject: Land Rover databane

Yet another for the database

94818096C,1976,III,109sw,,baby-shit
yellow,Canberra,Australia,dd,unk,paul@frcs.alt.za,lro-net,Holden 202 motor
+ Nissan 5sp gearbox; Commodore seats

> VIN,year,type,size,name,color,current location,country,shape,original
>dealer,e-mail,lro-net,notes

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