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1 Lodelane@aol.com 16Re: Can of Worms
2 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob37Frameover: Green Car gets a bulkhead
3 "Steve Reddock" [steve_r61V8s, webers & SUs
4 "Boehme, Doug" [dboehme@17No LRO list since 8/13
5 "John P. Casteel" [jcast56Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
6 "Bobeck, David R." [dbob20Re: No LRO list since 8/13
7 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em41Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
8 "Boehme, Doug" [dboehme@31RE: No LRO list since 8/13
9 "John P. Casteel" [jcast24[Fwd: Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!]
10 "Boehme, Doug" [dboehme@26RE: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
11 myk [johnsonm@borg.com> 14Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
12 myk [johnsonm@borg.com> 13Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
13 "Jens Vesterdahl" [jve@p26Re: Engine Temp Thermal Switches
14 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u17Re: Engine Temp Thermal Switches
15 Wdcockey@aol.com 29Re: CDR Action: Appropriate Topics
16 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@aae.wi26RE: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
17 "Tom Rowe" [trowe@aae.wi24Re: CDR Action: Appropriate Topics
18 VizionTeam@aol.com 15V8 Engine Options
19 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em14RE: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
20 Steve Rochna [75347.452@9Speedo
21 Steve MARGOLIS [sim1@cor60Land Rovers in movies
22 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us16Re: V8 Engine Options
23 Nathan Dunsmore [dunsmo136Where the rubber (insulation) hits the road
24 "T.F. Mills" [tomills@du24Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
25 Wdcockey@aol.com 20Land Rovers and Log Houses
26 FOSTERLOHR@aol.com 21Carb conversions for the V8
27 twakeman@scruznet.com (T25Re: V8 Engine Options


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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:21:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Can of Worms

I, for one would be interested.

In fact, I was contemplating doing something similar thru the DMVs.  Writing
to them to get just the VINs and years to be able to do a comparison to what
we "KNOW" was imported by Land Rover

FWIW,

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 08:31:31 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Frameover: Green Car gets a bulkhead

Finally!!!

As of yesterday, the Green Car has her firewall, and a pretty sight it is. The 
repairs were done by a fellow from Baltimore, to the tune of $200 US. A small 
dent in the wallet considering. He cam down to the garage where Im doing the 
rebuild, with 20 foot mobile welder truck and all the gear... The footwells were
already installed, so we put the lump up on the chassis and mounted the doorpost
sections to their holes. We measured 3 or 4 times and then cut the doorposts 
down, upt 'em back on and lined em up, with doors attached so that we knew the 
doors would close properly. Many a time I had inklings of dread, but Peter is an
excellent welder and metalworker, and he tossed the whole lot together in about 
1 1/2 hours. After the doorpost I made him patch some other areas which he had 
"forgotten". The result is that I now have a solid, albleit not so pretty, 
bulkhead. Well, it's pretty to me but to those finicky "coccours" types it might
be considered a hack job. I ground down the most offensive globs of weld goop 
and then cleaned it. Then I stripped it. Then I cleaned it again. Then I primed 
it. Then I cleaned it again. (Where I hadn't got all the stripper off, oops). 
Then I primed it again. Then I primed it again. Then I got my spray gun out and 
slapped a couple a coats of Pastel Green on that bad oscar and 
ba-da-boom-ba-da-bang or wing-dang-noodle or whatever... After all was said and 
done I was finished at 10 pm, having started at about 12:30 with an hour for 
lunch. After clean-up and feeding the bosses cat it was about 11:30.            
Needless to say, I was a little late for work today...
Oh and I should be able to retrieve my newly "unleadeded" cylinder head this 
afternoon.

Cheers
Dave "Not a morning person" B.      

or:

Dave "I'll sleap when I'm dead" B.

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:04:09 EDT
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: V8s, webers & SUs

3 friend's of mine (yep I really know more than 2 people!) manage to get
125 BHP at the wheels of an A-series engine whilst using one 1.75 inch
SU HIF carb. This probably equates to about 150 flywheel BHP. If you can
flow this must air through one, you can surely flow twice as much air
through 2. IE no problem with V8s under 300 BHP.

They do thin the butterfly, butterfly shaft & butterfly bolts to do
this, along with a little smoothing inside. Without the smoothing they
lost 2-3 BHP so you don't have to do it. The rest of the engine is
lightly modified to produce this much power, but that doesn't affect
this.

The cost of going to a weber, with the set up costs, manifold, etc is
huge.

A pair of 1.75 SUs, correctly tuned, with efficient air filters, etc.
will not restrict a V8 until it is heavily modified.

Fitting a large weber will possibly make the engine seem more powerful
as the low speed running could be worse, so when the power kicks in as
the mixture finally sorts itself out seems more viscous, but it could be
less power than before.

A large carb will not flow as well as a small one at low engine speeds.

When the weber from the 3l Ford strangled the engine slightly at high
revs it would have been making the mixture weak which can only lead to
detonation, closely followed by a engine meltdown.

If you do any mods to a carburettored engine take it to a rolling road
to get the full benefit.

When I modified my first engine I spent ages tuning it. I thought I had
it quite close, I had even used the needle recommended for that level of
modification. When on the rollers I had about the same power as a std
engine, but more noise & worse economy. After spending 70 quid on some
of Pete Baldwin's time I had 15% more power and slightly better economy
than before.

For more information on SUs read David Vizzard's guide to Tuning the
A-Series engine. It is a very useful book on how to make engines more
powerful or more economic, with a focus on the A-Series.

BTW, to make 125 BHP at the wheel an engine needs to suck as much air a
7 VAX vacuum cleaners!!!! So to boost your engine I suggest 15 Vaxs and
a loooooooong extension lead :-)

Have fun, Steve

This weekends goal: 1st coat of primer on the chassis, unless something
more interesting comes up.

Steve Reddock, Xyratex        |  "NEVER QUESTION AN
Ext.(01705) 486363 x4450      |   ENGINEER'S OPINION,
IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P)            |   YOU THUNDERING MORON !"
Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com  |     - Dogbert 1996

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From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com>
Subject: No LRO list since 8/13
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:34:00 CDT

My e-mail system here has been screwed up and I haven't been receiving   
the list since August 13th.  Have I missed any exciting or important   
topics?

BTW, today (8/23) my e-mail was fixed, but I didn't realize it was broken   
until I was told it was fixed.  I had assumed that the LRO list was down,   
so I apologize if my downed e-mail system has caused any problems with   
the list.

Douglas Boehme
'95 Red D90 #2767

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:56:31 -0500
From: "John P. Casteel" <jcasteel@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!

KKelly6788@aol.com wrote:

> The new smog laws are real, and I hope people will skip over
> some of the far right wing stuff that is included in some of these 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>My dad is lucky and it was not a big
> deal for him to just buy a new van for $20K.

KKelly, I don't want to take a lot of digest bandwith but a couple of 
points on what you said.

1.  I am most closely aligned with the libertarian party so if I must be 
labeled after this post I prefer to be labeled far centrist.  If you 
listen to me long enough however you might label me as "far right wing". 
I believe that the government has three very specific purposes.  
Anything other than those purposes is an aberration and should not be 
tolerated.  However, most people don't think about it or if they do then 
they don't give a damn.  So, I sit here and bitch into the void.

2.  "far right wing".  What exactly does this mean.  It is a term 
created by the far left wing (hey this is easy!) media to be used 
against those people that are nuts AND want the government to leave them 
alone in their little worlds AND who take a position that the user of 
the phrase disagrees with.  The current political landscape is not one 
dimensional.  You are not either far left or far right or somewhere in 
between.  Instead, our political makeup is multi-dimensional.  Hence we 
have liberals that drive old cars which arguably pollute more.  Assuming 
that liberals are for strict environmental laws then liberals would 
drive only the greenest cars or, better, they would walk.  The guy that 
wrote the memo cannot be labeled simply "far right wing".  A few bricks 
shy of a load more closely describes him or her.

Side note, have you ever heard of the una-bomber refered to as "far left 
wing"?  Ask why.

Second Side note, even idiots if they talk enough say something worth 
repeating.  So, there are some things that the author said that we need 
to worry about.  

3. Your dad (and granted I don't know him) is not LUCKY.  He worked hard 
to put himself in a position so that "it was not a big deal for him to 
just buy a new van for $20K.".  Your father probably put in long hard 
hours and took calculated risks.  Even if it was your father's father 
who did the hard work, then your father made the correct decisions that 
enabled him to retain much of the inheritance.  If your dad won the 
lottery or became wealthy through a bogus jury award then please 
disregard this third point.

I just have to get this stuff off of my chest sometimes,

John Casteel

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:03:27 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: No LRO list since 8/13

My e-mail system here has been screwed up and I haven't been receiving   
the list since August 13th.  Have I missed any exciting or important   
topics?

Not much exciting or interesting, you know... mostly just some talk about Land 
Rovers. Oh and I think the other day somebody mentioned something about a 
Land-Rover. Oh! I forgot, there was something the other day regarding a couple 
of Land Rovers. As a matter of fact, I do recall the subject of Land Rovers 
popping up here and there as well...

HA HA

Cheers

Dave "Did somebody say Land-Rover?" B.

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:30:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!

On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, John P. Casteel wrote:

> I believe that the government has three very specific purposes.  

	Er, defence, the post office, & everything else required to run
	a modern industrial economy?

> 2.  "far right wing".  What exactly does this mean.  It is a term 
> created by the far left wing (hey this is easy!) media to be used 
> against those people that are nuts AND want the government to leave them 

	Again, this isn't exactly true.  The terms right wing and left wing
	come from a couple hundred years ago, long before fascism or
	Marxism were developed.  What constitutes "far" all depends on
	where you place the middle.  The previous Tory government in
	Canada would be considered left wing by American standards, the
	Democrats in the USA consider pretty right wing by Canadian standards
	in many of their policies.  Only the USA has managed to take a term
	(liberal) and turn it into a nasty slur.

> The current political landscape is not one dimensional.  

	Never was.  Always two dimensional.  Basically the easiest way to
	draw this out is as a circle.  Possibly more if you want to try and
	fit nihilists, anarchists and the like.  Now, where do we fit the
	Political action committees, the big corporations and other "interest"
	groups that seem to think they can better direct government than
	the populace that elected them?

> Side note, have you ever heard of the una-bomber refered to as "far left 
> wing"?  Ask why.

	Er, because he isn't from anything I have seen...

	Hmmm, how to we put in some LR content?  Oh yeah!  Used under every
	political system in the world!

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From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com>
Subject: RE: No LRO list since 8/13
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:43:00 CDT

As many of you may already know, a day without the LRO mailing list is   
like a day without sunshine.
Imagine 11 days without the mailing list?  Kinda like the "dark ages".   
 :>

Douglas "Information deprived" Boehme

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 ----------

Not much exciting or interesting, you know... mostly just some talk about   
Land
Rovers. Oh and I think the other day somebody mentioned something about a   

Land-Rover. Oh! I forgot, there was something the other day regarding a   
couple
of Land Rovers. As a matter of fact, I do recall the subject of Land   
Rovers
popping up here and there as well...

HA HA

Cheers

Dave "Did somebody say Land-Rover?" B.

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:57:42 -0500
From: "John P. Casteel" <jcasteel@mindspring.com>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!]
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Wdcockey@aol.com wrote:
> You posted a message dated 96-08-23 09:57:04 EDT to the Land-Rover-Owner Net
> which I have included the start of below. It appears to be part of a private
> dialog. 

My sincere apologies to the Land-Rover-Owner Net community.  

And to make this message socially acceptable...

I have received some good suggestions as to the building of the LR 
Series database.  It is surprising that more folks aren't asking to 
include different information.  I will take this, for now, as showing 
that I covered all of the bases.  On monday, I'll describe how to send 
the information and soon perhaps we'll have an idea of how many Series 
Land Rovers are still on the road.

John "whipping myself for my sins" Casteel

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From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com>
Subject: RE: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:50:00 CDT

Actuall, aren't left wing and right wing those things on my 90 that cover   
the front wheels?  No, that can't be right, those are tires...   
  Hmmmmm...   :>

Douglas Boehme

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 ----------
> 2.  "far right wing".  What exactly does this mean.  It is a term
> created by the far left wing (hey this is easy!) media to be used
> against those people that are nuts AND want the government to leave   
them
 Again, this isn't exactly true.  The terms right wing and left wing
 come from a couple hundred years ago, long before fascism or
 Marxism were developed.  What constitutes "far" all depends on
 where you place the middle.  The previous Tory government in
 Canada would be considered left wing by American standards, the
 Democrats in the USA consider pretty right wing by Canadian standards
 in many of their policies.  Only the USA has managed to take a term
 (liberal) and turn it into a nasty slur.

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:57:32 -0400
From: myk <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!

>   Hmmm, how to we put in some LR content?  Oh yeah!  Used under every
>political system in the world!

I really need a new left wing,  My (or Chester's) is really banged up

74 SIII 88 (Chester)
73 SIII 88 (Jezabel) 

http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:04:56 -0400
From: myk <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!

>   Hmmm, how to we put in some LR content?  Oh yeah!  Used under every
>political system in the world!

I really need a new left wing,  My (or Chester's) is really banged up
74 SIII 88 (Chester)
73 SIII 88 (Jezabel) 

http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 16:28:19 
From: "Jens Vesterdahl" <jve@phaseone.dk>
Subject: Re: Engine Temp Thermal Switches

Hi all.

I like the idea with LEDs to indicate when engine temperature rises and the 
audible alarm when the temp is too high. For us LROs, I guess the audible alarm 
should be a PA speaker from a football stadium and located right behind the 
driver seat :-)

When I bought the 109 I have now, I saw a sII 109 where the owner had mounted a 
red and yellow LR tail light at the instrument panel and connected them to the 
oil pressure and charge lamps. He said it was because the small lights were easy 
to miss when bumping around the terrain. Makes sense to me. The car was used for 
heavy weekend offroading only and that's why I didn't buy it.

Regarding coolant temperatures, remember that if the temp gauge suddenly drops 
below normal operating temperature, you have probably lost all the cooling 
fluid. It happened to me once (not in a LR though).

Happy Rovering

Jens Vesterdahl
Copenhagen, Denmark

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Engine Temp Thermal Switches
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 16:11:45 BST

> I like the idea with LEDs to indicate when engine temperature rises and the 
> audible alarm when the temp is too high. For us LROs, I guess the audible alarm 
> should be a PA speaker from a football stadium and located right behind the 
> driver seat :-)

Speaking of which, has anyone invented a loud "clicker" for the indicator
switch. Its embarassing to notice that I've been indicating to turn left
for a mile or so...    :-)

Richard  (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)
PS: Call me slow, but I've just noticed that I drive a BMW III Series!  :-(

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:33:08 -0400
Subject: Re: CDR Action: Appropriate Topics

After reading John Casteel's posting this morning I sent him private e-mail
which included:

"I don't see any Land Rover relevant content so I do not think it is
appropriate for the LRO Net. The LRO Net is generally limited to subjects
relevant to Land Rovers. Actual information on regulations (which has not
appeared before) which would affect Land Rovers is appropriate. Discussion of
related political philosophies is not appropriate."

This of course is my opinion but I strongly suggest it to all subcribers.
Digression into political discussion can have several effects: the net is
clogged with length postings of interest to only a few, and the community
could devolve into "us vs. them" mentality. As much as I enjoy participating
in political dialogue and debate, I don't think this is the forum. Dixon and
I could go back and forth for days comparing Canadian and US politics, but I
don't think that is what this net is about. Maybe we'll do it as private
e-mail.

So let's keep LRO-Net Land Rover oriented, whether it is technical advice,
events, news, private for sale/wanted, or even humor.

David Cockey
Rochester, MI

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@aae.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:49:41 -5
Subject: RE: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!

 Douglas Boehme writes:
> Actuall, aren't left wing and right wing 
Snip
> Actuall, aren't left wing and right wing 
I see them as kind of a circle. Go too far one way or the other, and 
you end up as the other. Sort of like coiling a 109. If you do it 
tight enough it will slip into another dimension. Like where the 
political discussion on this list should go.
Or at least keep it in the ARB lockers with those other items.
Let's keep it at least remotely LR related.
Sorry for my contributions.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@aae.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@aae.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:55:58 -5
Subject: Re: CDR Action: Appropriate Topics

David Cockey writes:
Snip
> could devolve into "us vs. them" mentality. As much as I enjoy participating
Snip
It already is.
Land Rovers vs the rest of the 4x4 heaps.
Now if *that* doesn't get some flames., I don't know what will.
Coil vs leaf sprung, maybe ;-)
Just kidding, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAsnort, cough, wheeze.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@aae.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: VizionTeam@aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:25:55 -0400
Subject: V8 Engine Options

I think I've blown the head gasket on my 1990 U.S. Range Rover, (130,000 hard
miles).  I am studying all the options and would love any suggestions.  New
engines, stroking and boring, other retrofits, etc.  If anyone can help, you
can reach me at VizionTeam@aol.com (note the Z in vizion) or post lro.

Thanks,

Mike Hickman
'90RR "Rocky" off-road the wrong way for now

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:10:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: RE: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!

On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Boehme, Doug wrote:

> Actuall, aren't left wing and right wing those things on my 90 that cover   
> the front wheels?  No, that can't be right, those are tires...   

	I can't believe I missed this angle...  Must be just getiing back
	inside after unloading a happy 1,900 pounds of LR parts, fresh
	off the boat from the UK... :-)  I love it when the garage resembles
	a LR candy store... :-)  (too bad none of it is for me...)

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Date: 23 Aug 96 13:42:58 EDT
From: Steve Rochna <75347.452@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Speedo

I just got back from a test drive and my spedo was perfect.  The flange nut
advice sent by Alan and others works great and takes about 30 minutes.  Thanks.

Steve Rochna '73 sIII 88"

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 14:08:45 -0400
From: Steve MARGOLIS <sim1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Land Rovers in movies

A couple of nights ago it was too hot to sleep and I stumbled on the last
half hour of a movie called Options on the Encore channel.  There were a
couple of 109's and a Forward Control in those minutes.  I have checked the
Encore schedule for next week and it is on three times that I have found:

Options * * (1989, Comedy) Matt Salinger, Joanna Pacula. A Hollywood
businessman finds himself out of his element in Africa when he attempts to
locate a disinherited princess. (V) (1:45) |ENC|
8/27 - 7:15 pm, 5 am
8/28 - 1:30 pm

I don't know if the Encore channel on American cable is related to the
Encore channel in th UK.
A review of the movie from
http://www.iguide.com/movies/mopic/pictures/31/31761.htm follows:
Our rating: 2
       In Hollywood, the word option refers to a producer's agreement to
purchase the
       rights to a book, a play, or someone's life story for the purpose of
turning it into a
       film. These days, competition for optioning material based on
real-life stories often
       resembles a feeding frenzy among sharks, and success is usually
determined by how
       far a negotiator will go to achieve a deal. In OPTIONS, Donald
Anderson (Matt
       Salinger) is dispatched by his smarmy boss (James Keach) to option a
prize life story.
       Armed with only his trusty briefcase, a laptop computer, and a suit,
Anderson flies to
       Africa to track down Nicole (Joanna Pacula), a Belgian princess who
has abandoned
       her sensational, tabloid-publicized lifestyle and failed marriage,
to serve and protect
       endangered elephants in the wilds of Zambia. OPTIONS has enough
basis in truth to
       make its premise potentially good material for satire.
Unfortunately, this
       comedy-by-committee's better moments occur primarily in its opening
scenes, leaving
       only the expansive African vistas, a clumsily developed love story,
and repetitive
       chases to fill out the movie. The performers do well enough, but
they can't quite save
       this picture.

Tape it and fast forward to the LR scenes.

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* 6 Winthrop Place
* Ithaca NY  14850-1741
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 12:41:49 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: V8 Engine Options

I strongly suggest a new head gasket. If you have too much money laying 
around, there are almost endless possibilities regarding performance 
improvement, from reworking the heads to a full-on rebuild. I think that 
at this point, you should pull the heads, check the bores for oval and 
taper, decarbonize everything, install new gaskets and put it all back 
together again. If this doesn't give you a satisfactory increase in 
performance, you can think about a new engine while still being able to 
drive the truck.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 14:58:17 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Where the rubber (insulation) hits the road

Hi all,

Thought I'd give you all the final update on the VR/generator problem.
Replaced both the VR and generator at the same time.  On its first
trip out, the charge light went out within a few seconds of starting
up.  However, the second time I started up, the charge light came
on and stayed on for several minutes (5-10) and then went out.  Each
time it was started after this, it stayed on for 5-10 minutes.

I tried recleaning the VR terminals with no improvement, then 
rechecked the connections to the generator.  Finally, I retraced
the harness to the generator.  

A section about 6 inches long was seriously melted with a 3/4 inch
section of bare wire showing through.  After patching in a new 
segment of wiring, all is now back to normal.

When a put in the new generator I had inspected the harness leading 
to it and it looked fine, but clearly had some melting under the black
plastic wrapping.  Continued driving with it probably caused low level 
shorting with subsequent heat and further melting.

The only thing I can think of which may of detected this problem short of
unwrapping the harness would be to have tested resistance across the two wires 
to the generator.

So much for the new harness.

Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Re: CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:24:54 -0600 (MDT)

< 	Hmmm, how to we put in some LR content?  Oh yeah!  Used under every
< 	political system in the world!

Or... Land Rovers have wings, one on the left and one on the right.  (and 
the driver is left or right of center,pretty much dependent on your 
country's former relationship with the UK--with the major exception of 
Canada).

Looks like our "libertarian" friend needs to study more history.  The 
concept of left and right comes from the French Estates General, with 
proto-parties sitting in a semi-circle on either side of the king.  And 
it is not only in the US that political labels have become meaningless:  
in Switzerland the "Radical" party is downright far-right reactionary.
What the ... -- some of them drive LRs too.

T. F. Mills
tomills@du.edu                               University of Denver Library
http://www.du.edu/~tomills                          Denver  CO 80208  USA

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:34:50 -0400
Subject: Land Rovers and Log Houses

Today's Wall Street Journal in "The Home Front" near the start of the feature
article proclaims:
"Like Land Rovers and Ralph Lauren denim, the new log megahouse has become a
status symbol of the get-back-to-the-landed gentry".

Okay, confess, who lives in a log house (actually, not just a house but a big
as in mega house)? Who wears Ralph Lauren denim (genuine only, no
knock-offs)? Should LRNA bring out a line of LR demin? How about the log
frame raising winch kit? Or do Series LRs go with cabins while Defenders go
with houses?

I wouldn't mind a log cabin, but Ralph Lauren demin?

David Cockey

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From: FOSTERLOHR@aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:16:33 -0400
Subject: Carb conversions for the V8

Re: carb conversions for the v8

I own a Stage One V8 109 PU here in the states.  When I ran into carb trouble
I pitched the Solex Carbs that were on the motor and replaced them with SU
HIF 44's.  They made a world of difference and since replacing them over a
year ago have never required much further adjustment.  I purchased them from
RPI Engineering (You'll find their ad in LRO).  RPI was an excellent company
to work with - on time delivery and the fit kit fit perfect.

I would highly recommend taking this route rather than the Weber's.  They are
a true switch out and make a world of difference - power, mileage, etc.

Ted Lohr

198? V8 109 PU

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:55:08 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: V8 Engine Options

At 12:25 PM 8/23/96 -0400, VizionTeam@aol.com wrote:
;
>I think I've blown the head gasket on my 1990 U.S. Range Rover, (130,000 hard
>miles).  I am studying all the options and would love any suggestions.  New
;engines, stroking and boring, other retrofits, etc.
<snip>
>Thanks,
;
>Mike Hickman

Gee Mike, I was going to suggest a valve job and new head gaskets..Untill I
read your third sentence.  What do you do if you get a flat, buy a new set
of tyres and Mags?

Have you considered throwing out that V8 that got tired and replace it with
a 2-1/4L petrol?  It would be just broken in at 130000 hard miles.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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