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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 08:17:43 -0400
Subject: Wrenches

     The absolute *BEST* Wrenches I have ever used are Metrinch....
These wrenches fit everything I have come across so far andas a result are
the only ones I carry in the L-R.
   Just Ask Spencer Norcross...SPENNY @ aol.com, when he broke his half shaft
up in Canada at the OVLR Party..he tried every wrench he could find including
vise grips to remove the rear drive shaft, not one fit, he was attempting to
use vise grips to grab the severely rounded off nut when I walked over to my
Rover and came back with a metrinch and within 20 seconds he had the nut
off...
     Or when we were up at Mark Talbots in NH Changing and
alternator...couldn't get the thing off with anything we had there got the
Metrinch...Off.... ask Mark, Spencer, or Alan Richer
     Just stripped off the swivel balls on My lla..those bolts that hold the
swivel ball to the axle, the ones everybody drills and busts with a cold
chisel to remove..... YEP I sprayed some stuff called Blaster PB on 'em, (a
penetrating Catalyst) used the Metrinch on the nut and a standard Craftsman
on the bolt head and...They all came off 
    So IMHO...METRINCH is by far the best, yeah they are a little pricy but
they have saved me lots of time and aggrivation and have found no equal to
them , especially in the field when nothing else will fit 
Just thought You'd like to know
Rgds
Steve Bradke      72 S lll 88 ( For Sale )
WA2GMC          68 S lla 88
                         96 Discovery SE-7

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 08:30:31 -0100
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: Spare tire bonnet mount

The standard bonnet on my 68 IIA SWB needed new round rubber things, which
I was able to get from one of the parts mail order shops. My IIA also came
with factory installed rear door and seat-back bulkhead spare mounts. To
use the spare on the back door, you need to reinforce the door. An
acquaintance welded extra struts in the door. I bought an extra bottom
hinge from RN and put it on the middle, where they have them on the
Defender 90. The third hinge made the back door spare mount work without
disfiguring the door. However, the spare mount is too low on the door. LRO
magazine ran an article a few years ago on moving the mount upward to a
more convenient place on the door. For my part, I just lowered the trailer
hitch out of the way.

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Camden       =(O)-----(O)=  Our impeccable taste in off-road vehicles is
DE 19934   """""""""""""""" excelled only by the quality of our work and
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(302) 697 1789              modesty.

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:14:02 +1100
From: Ross <fax.rescue@hunterlink.net.au>
Subject: Heroics of the old days
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The 20th of August is the 30th Anniversary of the finish of the amazing 
1966 "West-East Crossing of Australia Expedition".
This, and other expeditions of the 50's, 60's, 70's, make an interesting
contrast to the Camel Races.

Some details:
It took 36 mths of dreaming, planning and trials: this trip was a first.
It began May 3 66 at Steep Pt near Shark Bay WA (the most western point 
of the Australian mainland)(Indian Ocean).
It finished Aug 20 66 at Cape Byron NSW (the eastern most point)(Pacific 
Ocean).
Waypoints along the 26th parrallel included Meekatharra, Wiluna, 
Carnegie, Gibson and Stony Deserts, Giles, Ayers Rock, Finke, Andado, 
Simpson's Desert (crossing took 22 days, 1105 sand ridges) Birdsville, 
Windorah, Cunnamulla, Goondiwindi, Lismore: 111 days of travel, 4248 
miles at 17mpg (best road) and 3mpg (desert slog and 500 miles of mud in 
Queensland).
Results and crew:
The first successful crossing ever achieved!
(A)2000 insect and 300 reptile specimens collected for Australian Museum
Naturalist Keith Davey.
(B)Documentary 16mm Film released "Wheels Across A Wilderness"
Cinematographer Mike Leyland.
(C)Photography and "in progress" Press Releases, book "Where Dead Men 
Lie" Mal Leyland.
(D)Cook Pat Leyland.
(E)Mechanic Ted Hayes.
Vehicles: a 1963 petrol 88" Land-Rover hard top (9.00x16 aero sand 
tyres)
a 1958 petrol 6 cylinder Station wagon (Michelin Sahara 7.50 x 16) 
fitted with capstan winch, HF radio, safari roof.
a 1966 Bridgestone 90 Mountaineer motorcycle.
a heavy duty (overloaded) 4 wheel trailer hand built with Land-Rover 
parts.
No roof racks.
Understatement pg 194: "A startling number of breakdowns (mainly on the 
older vehicle) was both surprising and annoying, but a thorough 
understanding of the vehicles by the mechanic and the added safety of 
the second vehicle lessened the possibility of a disaster. Any one of 
the the breakdowns could have been a major catastrophe to anyone with no 
mechanical knowledge..."
pg 143: "we were sick of broken diffs." (Simpson Desert)

(These adventurers' home-town is the Hunter Valley NSW.)

Cheers.
Ross.

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:18:33 +1100
From: Ross <fax.rescue@hunterlink.net.au>
Subject: Heroics of the old days
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/  _  \ | | | | | | (_) | |_| | | | | (_|  __/ | | | | |  __/ | | | |_
\_/ \_/_| |_|_| |_|\___/ \__,_|_| |_|\___\___|_| |_| |_|\___|_| |_|\__|
     
The 20th of August is the 30th Anniversary of the finish of the amazing
1966 "West-East Crossing of Australia Expedition".
This, and other expeditions of the 50's, 60's, 70's, make an interesting
contrast to the Camel Races.

Some details:
It took 36 mths of dreaming, planning and trials: this trip was a first.
It began May 3 66 at Steep Pt near Shark Bay WA (the most western point
of the Australian mainland)(Indian Ocean).
It finished Aug 20 66 at Cape Byron NSW (the eastern most point)(Pacific
Ocean).
Waypoints along the 26th parrallel included Meekatharra, Wiluna,
Carnegie, Gibson and Stony Deserts, Giles, Ayers Rock, Finke, Andado,
Simpson's Desert (crossing took 22 days, 1105 sand ridges) Birdsville,
Windorah, Cunnamulla, Goondiwindi, Lismore: 111 days of travel, 4248
miles at 17mpg (best road) and 3mpg (desert slog and 500 miles of mud in
Queensland).
Results and crew:
The first successful crossing ever achieved!
(A)2000 insect and 300 reptile specimens collected for Australian Museum
Naturalist Keith Davey.
(B)Documentary 16mm Film released "Wheels Across A Wilderness"
Cinematographer Mike Leyland.
(C)Photography and "in progress" Press Releases, book "Where Dead Men
Lie" Mal Leyland.
(D)Cook Pat Leyland.
(E)Mechanic Ted Hayes.
Vehicles: a 1963 petrol 88" Land-Rover hard top (9.00x16 aero sand
tyres)
a 1958 petrol 6 cylinder Station wagon (Michelin Sahara 7.50 x 16)
fitted with capstan winch, HF radio, safari roof.
a 1966 Bridgestone 90 Mountaineer motorcycle.
a heavy duty (overloaded) 4 wheel trailer hand built with Land-Rover
parts.
No roof racks.
Understatement pg 194: "A startling number of breakdowns (mainly on the
older vehicle) was both surprising and annoying, but a thorough
understanding of the vehicles by the mechanic and the added safety of
the second vehicle lessened the possibility of a disaster. Any one of
the the breakdowns could have been a major catastrophe to anyone with no
mechanical knowledge..."
pg 143: "we were sick of broken diffs." (Simpson Desert)

(These adventurers' home-town is the Hunter Valley NSW.)

Cheers.
Ross.

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'Castrol' 1964 Ex-Army 11a 88 Regular
        
                 _____\___    
                l._;|__|/-% 
                `(*)~~~'(*)  notepad LR

http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~derf/swb/ 
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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:05:31 +0900
From: Alan Logue <Logue@a011.aone.net.au>
Subject: Re: Wrenches

I would have to agree. I've used a set of these for some 12 months now, and
they are great.
There were nuts on a trailer that nothing would get off because they were so
rounded on the heads - the Metrinch worked brilliantly. 

The other bonus is you do not need to carry 2 sets of sockets (metric and
AF) because these sockets fit all sizes.
At 08:17 18/8/96 -0400, you wrote:
>     The absolute *BEST* Wrenches I have ever used are Metrinch....
>These wrenches fit everything I have come across so far andas a result are
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 31 lines)]
>WA2GMC          68 S lla 88
>                         96 Discovery SE-7
  |          |
  |          |				Alan Logue
 _|__________|_____			South Australia
| |  _____   | |    \   _____		Ex Australian Army
| | |_____|  | |_____\_|_____|		Fitted For Radio
| [] 4MP COY []|     |        |  	Military Police
|   ____       | FFR | ____   |		Long Wheel Base
|__//  \\______|_____|//  \\__|		1978 Model
    \__/               \__/

No matter where you are bogged, the RED CAPS will find you!!!

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 10:26:42 -0600
From: Tony Bonanno <tbonanno@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Spare tire on bonnet

Thought I'd ad my experience to the topic.  Bought my '71 Series IIA  SWB
new and it came from factory (still have the factory "work list") with a
standard (non-dished, no lip) bonnet with spare tire carrier installed and
four round rubber tire supports installed at 10, 2, 4, & 8 o'clock
positions.  Also came with carrier behind bulkhead and rear door carrier.
I've driven the beast for years with tire on bonnet without ever having a
problem.  Carried tire also on rear door for a couple of years, but that was
a long time ago.  Lately, have decided to keep just one spare behind
bulkhead.  Visibility improves in rough terrain and its obviously a lot
easier to work under the bonnet.

Cheers!

Tony Bonanno, Santa Fe, NM

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 10:56:59 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: RE: Land Rover Music

Well I've ignored this thread as long as I could but if it won't go away I
might as well join it.

My favorite Music for heading out in The Green Rover is "Going to the
Country" by canned Heat.  Of course now its also my favorite music for
going home from work which is in the big city of Cuprtino.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 10:57:16 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Spare tire on bonnet

Let me see if I can summerize this thred and expand it.  If you feel that
there are mistakes or that other information shopuld be added, please make
corrections.

First, it is common for series II & III Land Rovers to come with multiple
spare tyre mounts.

The standard bonnet (no rolled lip at front) was optionally fitted with a
spare tyre carrier.  A carrier can be added to a standard bonnet at any
time without problems.

There are two kinds of Deluxe bonnets (rolled front edge).

One has a depression in the centre and has dual reinforcment ridges running
lenghtwise under the centre of the bonnet.  This bonnet comes with a spare
tyre mount.

There is a Deluxe bonnet that does not have a depression nor a spare tyre
mount.  This bonnet does not have the reinforcement under the centre.
There may be a strength issue if a spare tyre is added.

88s may have a spare tyre mount at the top center rear of the seat bulkhead.

109 two doors may have spare tyre mounts on ether or both side benches
behind the seat bulkhead, in front of the rear wheels.  These tyres are
mounted vertically lenghtwise to the body.

Land Rovers fitted with rear doors, may have a tyre mounton the rear door.

The bonnet mounted spare reduces forward visibility  closest to your car
where it comes in handy while off roading.  It also cuts down on the air
flow through the scuttle vents.

The rear door mounted tyres can cause problems off road.  They have been
known to cause door damage.  Some people have added a third hinge to
reinforce the door.  Rear tyres mounted low on the door are apt to run
aground on rough terrain.

Spares mounted inside the body seem the best bet for off roading but take
up usful packing space for trips.

Anyone have any corrections or points that should be added??

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 10:23:31 -0700
From: Heather Dixon <hldixon@top.monad.net>
Subject: Re: Spare tire mount on bonnet

When Ray bought his 1969 Ser. IIa 88 from the dealer it was equipped with 
a tire mount on the bulkhead and one on the rear door. As optional 
equipment he got a hood (bonnet) with the spare tire mount. It had no 
depression and no lip.

Somewhere in the depths of our paperwork, Ray believes lie the evidence, 
the window sticker. If we find it in a short time will post.

Heather Dixon
1970 Ser IIa 88  (Ellie)
1965 Ser IIa 88  (Betsy) Chevy V8 auto
1972 Ser III 88  (Rufus) the preverbial parts Rover

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 14:50:26 -0400
Subject: Re: "Stainless" exhausts

Sandy Grice posted a bit about "Stainless" exhausts and it ends:

"<...while the muffler has been welded twice.  In all but one situation, the
flanges separated from the pipe; once, the pipe broke through as neatly and
cleanly as if cut with a plasma torch...
...Anyway, the sysyem was supposedly "guaranteed for life" 
(whatever that means) but it ain't stainless.... a magnet sticks to it.>"

--There are a whole bunch of different "types" of SS. Some forms of stainless
steel are magnetic. I'm not an expert, and have since forgotten which exactly
but I think the 4-hundred series (412, etc.) is magnetic, as opposed to the
more common types 316 or 304 which aren't. Some types definitely more brittle
than others. Type of welding rod used and temp. of weld important for
structural integrity.

{There is also a common type with no numeric designator called "Taiwan
Stainless" that does infact rust as soon as exposed to light moisture.}

For stainless steel not to rust, it has to be passivated & polished. The P&P
process eliminates surface deposits from tool working (which rust) and brings
out a high lustre which means it doesn't have to be chromed. Passivating is
some kind of weak acid that "eats" surface impurities leaving "pure"
stainless as a surface.

It may be that the manufacturer used wrong grade for the application or a
repair was made without proper knowledge of what type of SS the pipe was. Was
the flange identical type of SS to the pipe or some other kind?

patrick
93  110 (with rust starting on exhaust sytem)
94 Audi S2 (with rust-free SS exhaust system)

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:57:19 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Wrenches

David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu> wrote:
:At a Seattle second-hand store, I found two double open-ended wrenches,
:"Made in England" with a trade-mark consisting of a circle with a line
:through the middle (dividing the circle into upper and lower halves).
:There is a 'T' in the upper half and a 'W' in the lower half.
:Each wrench says 'superslim' on the backside. One is noted as a 'B2' and
:the other a 'B5'. They have a black finish, with some RUST showing (so
:maybe LR related??):

:Sizes are stated as follows:
:1/2 W  9/16BSF  (seems close to 15/16 SAE)
:7/16W  1/2 BSF  (seems close to 27/32 SAE)

:3/8 W  7/16BSF  (seems close to 23/32 SAE)
:5/16W  3/8 BSF  (seems close to 19/32 SAE)

:Does anybody know who made these? Are my estimates of the sizes correct?
:I assume that 'W' stands for Whitworth, what is 'BSF'?

David - no idea who made them, but I can post your question on the UK list, 
if you want me to.

The W is short for BSW, or British Standard Whitworth (you guessed right!). 
BSF is British Standard Fine, since Whitworth was really too coarse in the 
"teeth" for steel and mostly used for softer materials like aluminium, where 
the coarser teeth would not strip the metal so easily. To make things a 
little more interesting, the sizes normally given have nothing to do with 
the head size, but with the diameter of the thread. If your wrenches are 
reasonably new, this table would apply:

               teeth/inch
diameter       BSW  BSF
1/4            20   26
5/16           18   22
3/8            16   20
7/16           14   18
1/2            12   16
9/16           12   16
5/8            11   14

Generally speaking, Whitworth heads and nuts are one size bigger than BSF 
for the same diameter, e. g. a 1/4 BSW will also fit a 5/16 BSF. However, if 
your wrenches were *really* old, they would be Whitworth old standard, which 
is one more size bigger, e. g. 1/4 BSW fits 3/8 BSF. 

Your size data make it even more challenging, apparently giving the 
Whitworth diameter and the BSF head size.
That's what you get for not going metric!
Good puzzling
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: 18 Aug 96 15:46:53 EDT
From: "Peter J. Gronous" <100617.1214@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Tee shirt design update

I have made the modification to my design to include the full web address for
the major

available at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gronous/teeshirt.htm

Regards
Peter Gronous 

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Date: 18 Aug 96 15:46:57 EDT
From: "Peter J. Gronous" <100617.1214@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Dunsfold Landrover Open Day

Thought I would let you all know that Dunsfold Landrover Museum open Days are on
the 5th and 6th of October. So if your coming to UK or here already it may be
well worth your while putting that in your itinary. Dunsfold is about 12 miles
south of Guildford which is about 25 miles SW of London. Each year it is the
only occaision when all the inventory of the museum is on display at the one
place. I'll be most likely going dependant on other committments since it is
only 15 minutes drive from home and I might take some photos and put them on my
web pages for the benefit of those that wont be able to see it in the flesh.

Regards
Peter Gronous
Surrey, England

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:45:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Spare tire on bonnet

TeriAnn has summarized the info on spare tyre mounting including:

>88s may have a spare tyre mount at the top center rear of the seat bulkhead.

One minor addition. My assumption based on observation and the "except
station wagon" notes in the parts books is that 88s except station wagons had
the seat bulkhead mounted spare carrier as standard, even if a bonnet carrier
and/or rear door with carrier was fitted. BTW there is a modification for the
seat bulkhead mount for use with pickup cabs.

David Cockey

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:57:44 -0400
Subject: SII Clutch Slave Cyl.: Manual is WRONG

The clutch slave cylinder on a SII mounts from below the bracket, not on top
as shown in the factory service manual (Figs. B1-32 and B1-35). Haynes is
also wrong since they just copied the factory manual illustration, and the
parts manuals also imply the wrong relationship. Prehaps the later IIA with
the "hydrostatic" system mounts the other way? With the cylinder wrongly
mounted on top adjustment of the push rod runs out before the clutch
releases. This has caused more than a reasonable amount of aggrevation. Does
anyone know of any other errors in the manuals? Is there a prize for finding
them?

The SII slave cyl. mounting arrangement is one of the worst features of the
vehicle. I've seen worst, but not recently.

David Cockey
Not thinking too many nasty thoughts about somebody who was at LR 30-some
years ago.

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Date: 18 Aug 96 20:44:29 EDT
From: Steve Rochna <75347.452@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Speedo thread

I resubscribed to the digest after being away and saw a thread about something
loose causing erratic speedo readings.  Sorry if it's a rehash but could someone
tell me what when loose will cause that - my speedo is erratic.

Thanks

Steve Rochna

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From: "Hugh Grierson" <Hugh.Grierson@trimble.co.nz>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:56:24 +1200
Subject: Re: SII Clutch Slave Cyl.: Manual is WRONG

> The SII slave cyl. mounting arrangement is one of the worst features of the
> vehicle.

I was once told that that when assembling landrovers the factory 
would start with a man in a white coat holding a clutch slave 
cylinder to which the rest of the parts were then bolted.  
-- 
hugh.grierson@trimble.co.nz

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From: redorman@plix.com (Dorman, Robert )
Subject: Re: Spare tire on bonnet
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:15:09 -0700

>Thought I'd ad my experience to the topic.  Bought my '71 Series IIA  SWB
>new and it came from factory (still have the factory "work list") with a
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)]
>easier to work under the bonnet.
>Cheers!
>Tony Bonanno, Santa Fe, NM
Hi, I'm new to the group. My 1964 LR (purchased locally last year from a
long time owner) came with the spare tire mtd. behind the seat, and had
mounts on the hood/bonnet (take your pick!) I found the added weight a pain
when I moved the tire to the bonnet, plus, it holds water, tending to make
the wheel rust unless you wipe it dry after every rain.  Why did I do it,
then?  I needed the extra interior space, and I guess I thought the tire on
the bonnet looked more macho!

Incidently, the movie, Close Encounters, opend with a desert scene where a
LR pulls up with a battery mounted on the front bumper, presumably a spare.
I guess there ain't much to run into in the dessert, but that battery sure
would make a mess if you tapped something around here!  Is that mounting
used for hot climates to keep the battery out of the engine heat?

A truly wise man will not be carried away by any of the eight winds:
prosperity, decline, disgrace, honor, praise, censure, suffering and
pleasure.  He is neither elated by prosperity nor grieved by decline.
                          ---Nichiren Daishonin

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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: RE: Commercial Plug
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:38:50 -0400
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I know that there's been this thread on whether or not to *advertise* or =
list anything that smacks of commercialism... Most have a variety of =
viewpoints. I think that a concensus might be lurking that it's o.k. as =
long as it isn't flagrant and endless... or too repetitive...

Lately, I am reading of lotsa plugs- both pro and con of various =
establishments. I'm sure that I am safe in saying that ALL of the =
vendors have SOME satisfied clients and some, well, not-so-satisfied =
ones... This has always been true. Those who have NO satisfied ones go =
out of business.. Logical!

It is my hope that, rather than have the list serve as a tally sheet of =
yea or nay for a particular establishment, that each vendor be allowed =
to continue to have opportunities to get better, satisfy more people, =
and take care of problems satisfactorily.

Above is IMHO only.... Each of ends up patronizing those vendors who =
render good service, fair prices, and good followup. At least I do...

cheers
Jim

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From: 	Garret Scott[SMTP:scottgs@usit.net]
Sent: 	Sunday, August 18, 1996 12:04 AM
Subject: 	Re: Commercial Plug

I learned a long time ago (17 years), rather than send my money to AP,
it's far less aggravating to step into my bathroom and throw my money
in the toddy.  It's also a quicker, less painful way to dispose of it. 

I learned 10 years ago DAP is not much different, but if you hold their
feet to the fire, you'll eventually be satisfied.

RN and BP are the best.  Outstanding service.  Call Lanny for details..

Garret

~67 Air-Portable

------ =_NextPart_000_01BB8D50.F1F9CA40

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:34:11 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Parts Numbers

>Massey Ferguson and (I think) some of the old Ford tractors used Lucas
>generators.

I'm not sure about the 4 cylinder, but the crossover for 6-cyl (Lucas RB 
340) voltage regulators is Ford tractor #DONN-105-05A.  Cheers

      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.     |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056     |
      |                                                     |
      *----1972 Series III 88"------1996 Discovery SE-7 ----*

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:00:07 -0600
From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>
Subject: Re: Speedo thread

At 08:44 PM 18/08/96 EDT, Steve Rochna, wrote

>I resubscribed to the digest after being away and saw a thread about something
>loose causing erratic speedo readings.  Sorry if it's a rehash but could
someone
>tell me what when loose will cause that - my speedo is erratic.

I've been waiting for a answer to this as well.  My speedo bounces up and
down from 20 to 80 Mph constantly.

			Rick Grant

rgrant@cadvision.com	1959, SII   "VORIZO"
Calgary, Canada

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From: Daryl Webb <dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: disc brake conversions
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 14:48:56 +0930 (CST)

Lloyd Allison writes:

> Someone used to sell disc brake kits here (Melbourne) about 15 years ago,
> can't think who for the life of me.

I think the company was Lakes 4x4, I rang them in the mid 80's and they 
denied ever doing it...  Eventually I was put on to one of the 
"old-timers", yes they had, no the couldnt any-more.  Apparently the 
Caliper used in the conversion is/was no longer available. 

Oh well
-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)
k

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From: Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-muenchen.de
Subject: Re: Bonnet spare carrier
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:11:34 +0200 (METDST)

hello Clinton,

| Dumb question but here goes...
| Can the bonnet spare carrier be 
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| edge bonnets without the flat
| dished out area in the centre?

Yes!
A friend has recently bolted his rear spare mount onto the bonnet.
He said, a real Land Rover has to have a bonnet mounted spare.
He even got it licensed by the T"UV (german version of the MOT).

What's on with your 2.5D plans?

Cheers,
Franz
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Franz Parzefall                 tbr1102@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de
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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:19:02 -0700
From: faurecm@halcyon.com (C. Marin Faure)
Subject: Looking for British Rovers/Tom Gannon.

I am trying to determine the status of a longtime Land Rover parts supplier
in Lewiston, California (west of Redding).  The owner of the company is Tom
Gannon.  His operation was once part of Atlantic British, but in the
mid-1980s he split off to form his own company, which at one point was
called Britsh Rovers.  He was still in business as of April this year.

Last week when I called the phone number I've been using I got a "number no
longer in service" recording, and the operator had no record of any company
with the word "Rover" in it in Lewiston.  I have left a message on his home
answering machine, but have received no reply yet.  I'm just curious if
anyone knows Tom and if he is still in the Land Rover parts business.  He
started his company in the early 1970s in Los Angeles, and I"ve been buying
parts from him since then.  Thanks-

C. Marin Faure
  '73 LR Series III 88
  '91 RR Vogue SE

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From: Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-muenchen.de
Subject: Re: Fluids
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:44:30 +0200 (METDST)

Hello David
| the engine-oil, cooling-water, brake-fluid. But whats about gearbox and 
| axles? Could anybody give me an explanation how to check the fluid 
| levels there? And which fluid is it? 
Should be W90 gearoil there. If it's up to the fillhole level it's ok.
At the axle diffs you can just look inside, at the gearbox and transferbox
I feel with the finger and at the swivelballs (this blank balls at the front 
axle) you have to have some light to see if they're full (at least on my
110. A SIII may be different here).

| at both sides of the front-axles, where the wheel is sticked on (the 
| part, which alows  the front-wheels to turn left and right). And there 
| is fluid coming out. Not very much, but if she stands for some hours, 
| you can see it on the ground. Any ideas? (Does anybody understand what I 
| mean?)
Looks like bad swivel ball seals. I heard that they are quite a bit of work
to replace, but I didn't require this so you may ask others.

hope this helps.
Franz
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Franz Parzefall                 tbr1102@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de
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      [_-__|__|_-]           Brumml  exmil. 1989 110 2.5D
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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:34:39 +0100
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Knocking Engine ?

Your knocking could well be a big end bearing on it's way out. When cold 
at startup, the oil pressure is low and if one bearing is worn then this 
will have the lowest pressure oil. When the engine gets warm and the oil 
is flowing freely the damaged bearing will become quiet. Until the wear 
becomes more significant. Then you will hear a very loud clattering 
noise which will be the con rod rattling on the journal, and the piston 
hitting the head!

I know because I am just rebuilding my 2.5 petrol after the same thing. 
Ignore this noise at your peril. Now is the time to have the crankshaft 
reground and new bearings fitted. If you wait until you get the noises I 
experienced you may have a crank worn below regrind limits (40 thou for 
the 2.5 crank, although the 2.25 can take 60 thou, I believe). This will 
be much cheaper than a recon engine. I see that you are only down the 
road from me (I am in Winchester), and if you would like to see the 
inside of a stripped 2.5, together with the damaged shells, ring me 
during the day on 01962-840769, or after hours on 01962-884789. I 
haven't had time to put it back together yet.

The timing chain tensioner on the 2.5 should still be good at that 
mileage, and is unlikely to be seized. The duplex chain is unlikely to 
be worn. My tensioner appears to be at it's factory setting still.

Regards
-- 
David Olley
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New Concept
PO Box 61, Winchester, SO23 0HA, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: fuel/temp guage problems
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 96 10:46:36 BST

> Have a SIII, which I am about to sell, that has a problem with the fuel and
> temp guages that I would like to sort out before passing it on.  Both do not
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> how to approach a cure?  If anyone does have a suggestion, be precise as I
> am "technically and mechanically challenged" according to my wife.  TIA.

Does the fuel gauge give a similar pattern to the water temp. gauge?

FWIR, the gauges have a common positive (or they do on the negative earth 
vehicles - (+) earth will have a common negative). Have you checked the
voltage between this common point and "earth"? Does this vary? Is it 12V?
(24V or more on mine, but I'm 24V).  If so, have you checked continuity?
Ie. are the connections good? I had to do this with my fuel gauge, and 
checked every connection from the tank sender to the gauge. In the end,
I found the gauge had an intermittent fault.
If you've got military style tanks, then fuel sender problems are "easy" to
find - measure resistance (or voltage), and stick your hand in the tank and
waggle the sender!!   :-)

Speaking of gauges:  I'm in the market for some temp. gauges for a Series 3
cluster. I know someone who has a number of bits from a SII. Looking Haynes,
it lookes like the water temp. gauge should fit my cluster? Does it?
I assume the water temp. senders are also direct replacements?

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR) 

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