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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com> Subject: RE: Misc. Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 23:38:24 -0400 It must be the last one or close to it! I ran a locater on the LRNA = computer system 6 months ago and there were only less than 8 left!! And = most of these were dealer demonstrators with some thousands of miles on = them!! Somebody got lucky. The handful of `95 Classic's we've had turned back in sell = immediately... as do ANY Defender 90s! LRMW has a 1995 SW (Arles Blue) #2/500 in stock w/3500 miles w/AC and = brush bar/running boards. Not cheap. But is as-new condition. We had an Alpine White D90 ragtop w/8800 miles and a C. Green w/lotsa = equipment on it 8500 miles (both `95's). Both sold same day. One local, = one upstate NY. There is a rumor that NAS D110 #464 is on the market w/4500 (!!) miles = and factory winch setup. I'll post if I find out anything about it Post me for further info on the D90 SW. BTW, the 1997 D90s will be allocated on a fairly limited (surprise) = basis. `97 SW start arriving at dealerships in November. Ragtops in = January. What's new in colors?? Station Wagons: Alpine White, Arles Blue, Coniston Green, Portofino Red. Ragtops: Alpine White, Beluga Black, Monza Red, AA Yellow, BRITISH = RACING GREEN (!!) and POSSIBLY a new Blue color (brighter). cheers Jim ---------- From: KKelly6788@aol.com[SMTP:KKelly6788@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 1996 12:42 AM Cc: Chris_Browne@us014-boston-minet.ccmail.compuserve.com Subject: New Range Rover Classics >consider-dumbos included the RR Classic! Less than two months ago I was in Walnut Creek (near San Francisco) and = the dealer still had a new never sold white RR Classic. Is it the last one = in the U.S.? Kevin Kelly ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 10:00:59 -0400
Subject: Wiring colors...
Bill Leacock supplied the "standard" British wiring colors. If they are truly
"standard" then I most heartily applaud this practical application of
intelligence!!! Are there any other wiring color code standards for British
vehicles?
see 'ya on the old road...
Jim '60 P5 Mk1 LHD 4 spd w/OD (628000165) "Olive(r)"
'61 LR 88" SW w/ 16's, OD 1 Bbl weber (econobox?) "Nicky"
LR...quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised!
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]From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 10:07:20 -0400 Subject: you've been unsubscribed from the lro lists >to: Gregspitz@aol.com posting commercial content is not acceptable. ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ASFCO@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 10:21:34 -0400 Subject: Re: you've been unsubscribed from the lro lists ME?? Whats going on?? Rgds Steve ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 12:55:06 -0400 From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice) Subject: Re: you've been unsubscribed from the lro lists Steve gets nervous.... >ME?? Whats going on?? >Rgds >Steve I think Bill Callocia's action resulted from someone posting an add from Renewed Traditions. You weren't unsubscribed.. looks like Gregspitz@aol.com was.. Cheers Mike --------------------------------------------------- From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 10:07:20 -0400 X-To: Gregspitz@aol.com Subject: you've been unsubscribed from the lro lists X-Cc: lro@playground.sun.com X-edited-by: LRO-Lite posting commercial content is not acceptable. ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 12:55:04 -0400
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: Wiring colors...
>Bill Leacock supplied the "standard" British wiring colors. If they are truly
>"standard" then I most heartily applaud this practical application of
>intelligence!!! Are there any other wiring color code standards for British
>vehicles?
If you can call them "standard"... After 20 years all the wires look the
same! Anyway, I think Dixon had a list of color standards... may be on the
FAQ somewhere...
Cheers
Mike Loiodice
166 W. Fulton St. 1965 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Faded Green
Gloversville 1972 SerIII 88 Petrol - Fern Camo
NY 12078 (USA) 7 1971 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Red and Blue
#:-}> 1964 Triumph Spitfire - BRG
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]From: ASFCO@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 13:16:39 -0400 Subject: Re: you've been unsubscribed from the lro lists me nervous Nah...I just pushed the wrong button here as usual, msg should have gone direct...I can see what happened... Steve ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 10:21:09 -0700 (PDT) From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: you've been unsubscribed from the lro lists On Sun, 28 Jul 1996, William Caloccia wrote: > posting commercial content is not acceptable. Dear Bill: I offered the name of a company that makes alternatives for the plywood cubby of the NAS D90 in response to a question posted to the list by another member. If you think that constitues "commercial content" I suggest that you *need* a vacation. Did you receive messages from others that my post was "not acceptable" or was the decision to "unsubscribe" me yours alone? I've enjoyed the list tremendously during the past 1 1/2 years - I read it always and respond frequently. If mentioning the name of a company constitutes "not acceptable" content, I think that the volume of material will certainly decrease - if that is what the list administer wants, I suggest that the question be put up to the list membership. Why not make a THIRD list: in addition to LRO and RRO you *could* make an "absolutely no mention of any brand name except Land Rover" list and I suspect that you would be the only subscriber: easy to administer, eh! David Rosenbaum '94 D90 W**n winch H**la lights H* L**ft Jack B*G Mud Terrain tires M*bil 1 Synthetic oil and lube P*nasonic radio S*even-11 Coffee cups Some Land Rover accessories have been bought from: R*overs North, Land Rover S*attle, BR*TPAC, E*roparts, Land Rover M*tro West. Well, bye folks, I guess I'll be banished forever for the "commercial content" below my signature. ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Gregspitz@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 13:30:50 -0400 Subject: Re: you've been unsubscribed from the lro lists I only wanted to see if these people were on the up and up.....I apologized and will never make this mistake again. Please accept my apology...I love the Mailing list! I have no connection with this company and received this "ad" and only included it in my email to show what I received unsolicited and wanted comments. ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 11:00:53 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re[4]: you've been unsubscribed...
David Rosenbaum,
You're not the one who's been nixed! I'm sure the entire list thought
it was. In his usually criptic messages Mr. Bill unsubscribed some
unknown person at <Gregspitz@aol.com> for posting and ad from Renewed
Traditions.
Personally I thought some of the information in the ad was interesting.
Mr. Bill's action is more showmanship than effective, in that ????????
at <Gregspitz@aol.com> can merely resubscribe to the automated list to
receive mail again, and of course anyone can SPAM the list by writing
messages to the LRO, RRO, etc addresses if they are subscribers or not.
Cheers,
______
Michael Carradine [__[__\== Rumpole of the Bay
510-988-0900 [________] Land-Rover Roughmobile
cs@crl.com __________.._(o)__.(o)____...o^^^ '65 IIA 2.235m (was 88")
_______________________________________________________________________
Land-Rover 4x4 Connection WWW page: http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html
____________________________________________
On Sun, 28 Jul 1996, William Caloccia wrote:
> posting commercial content is not acceptable.
Dear Bill:
I offered the name of a company that makes alternatives for the plywood
cubby of the NAS D90 in response to a question posted to the list by
.....snip........
Rover" list and I suspect that you would be the only subscriber: easy to
administer, eh!
David Rosenbaum
.....snip.......
Well, bye folks, I guess I'll be banished forever for the "commercial
content" below my signature.
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]From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:08:11 -0400 Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Olafur has another problem: >Also!! - unrelated! - when i push the accelerator pedal a bit quickly - the >engine seems to "sufficate" - and kill it self!! - probably ignition timing >- but i dont seem to able to fix it - well not with the timing screw at the >distributor cap anyway!! - any suggestions??? First suggestion: this is a fuel problem, not an ignition problem. The carburettor is not richening the mixture sufficently when you quickly press the accelerator. Exact cause depends on the carburettor: Solex and Zenith have systems to squirt in extra fuel when the accelerator pedal is depressed, while SU and Stromberg depend on the oil in the damper keeping the piston/diaphram from rising too quickly. Your carb may be in need of an overhaul, or there may just be some dirt causing a ball not to seat. David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:21:57 -0400 Subject: Re: you've been unsubscribed from the lro lists Bill sent the list a message probably intended for an individual, which stirred things up: >posting commercial content is not acceptable. Prehaps it is time again for a BRIEF discussion of what constitutes "commercial content" and whether the policy is "zero tolerence" . Generic commercial advertisements should not be acceptable. Specific responses to requests for sources of HARD to find parts and services should be acceptable whether the poster is a "disinterested" third party, or the provider. Single annoucements of new businesses should also be acceptable. Infrequent ads for specific vehicles and parts from indiviuals should be acceptable. If a commercial concern OCCASIONALLY has a special/unusual vehicle or parts to sell, then a brief note should be welcomed. After all the folks on this list are frequently looking for that sort information. David Cockey Rochester, MI (No Land Rover related commercial connections) ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM Date: 28 Jul 96 15:13:26 EDT Subject: Re: Superchargers, Big V-8s and a rusting Daisy Bill, You asked if the Salibury axle was the same as the Dana 44. I have to wonder in what respect you mean. The Salisbury's are fantastically strong, probably more like a Dana 60, have 4-pinion diffs, but are heavy, have large diffs (less ground clearance) and have integral swivel balls, which can be a pain if the chroming goes. As for size, if that is what you mean, you'll have to get one of the Series 3 people to crawl under their vehicle to measure it up for you. I'd be interested in this as I'm wondering if there are any suitable replacement axles for when mine go (I have dual salisbury's) and am looking to find something more commonly available. What are the Dana axles used under? Regards, Ralph Pyne. 101 FC. ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM Date: 28 Jul 96 15:13:17 EDT Subject: Re: Trac-Edges on Disco Mark, I read your strong recommendation of the Trac edges, do you know if they come in the 35x12.50x16.5 size. I can't find a listing of their sizes anywhere. Regards, Ralph Pyne. 101 FC. ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM Date: 28 Jul 96 15:13:09 EDT Subject: Re: Re: If only I'd had a ... Someone mentioned the Hummer solution (airlift hooks) to getting stuck, if this is what you want, get a 101, they've already got them. Regards, Ralph. 101 FC. ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM Date: 28 Jul 96 15:13:35 EDT Subject: Size of LWB roofrack? I know this is a bit of a wierd question, but exactly how big is a Series 3 LWB roofrack, I want to get a rack to modify for my hard top 101, and this looks about the right size and are relativly easily available. Thanks in advance, Ralph Pyne. 101 FC. ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: MathewPS@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:01:56 -0400 Subject: SIIA or SIII ?? I have a 1968 ex-RAF SIIA SWB, but I think that it is suffering an identity crisis. It has SIII door hinges, grill, and front lights, but definitely an SIIA gearbox, and dashboard.It also has a blatantly SIIA bonnet(the one you just lift off, with the non-rounded end. What I'm trying to say is, are the door hinges, lights and grill expected to be SIII spec on a 68 ex-RAF. I believe it was build to used on the Isle of Man but I could be mistaken. Thanx in advance for what I'm sure will be a huge response, Mathew (and Bertha the ID-crisis struck Landy ) ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: safari@iafrica.com Subject: Broken Layshafts Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 20:03:54 GMT Hi All Please help! I have a series III with a IIa box mated to a 1990 Turbo Diesel with intercooler. I have standard 4.7 diffs plus overdrive. I must only have done approx. 6000km with this combination. I have broken 2 layshafts already and it looks as if I have just broken my 3rd. The first shaft had the shoulders that retain the gears along the splines stripped off. The shaft had not broken. The other shaft had broken cleanly near the rear bearing. I still have to open the box to find the present problem. It used to also jump out of 2nd gear. The last time the box had been put together with new parts by a competent Landy specialist. I'm told that the motor is to much for the box but I don't buy it for two reasons; Others have done the same conversion and have used their vehicles more but have not had any problems. I used to run a Chevy 4.1 litre 6cyl motor with the same type of box with no problems. This has a lot more torque than the diesel. Have you guys any advice. I enjoy this Landy and want to bury this problem. Cheers. -- Rob Symons safari@iafrica.com Durban South Africa ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 22:19:13 +0100 From: whastelow@atlas.co.uk (Simon Ward-Hastelow) Subject: SERIES I . . . to ronald Ronald . . . thanks for your posting. We are going to look at a couple for sale later this week, the prices vary enourmously in UK =A3500-=A35000! depending on condition etc. but there seem= s to be a few available. I've talkes to CRAZY MRS. and she's adamant that this is what she wants, the fact that it has a top speed of 50mph seem to be a positive bonus! she's a menace on the roads and will NEVER drive on the motorways (freeways) unless it's a matter of life or death. So it look like we'll definately get one. It'll be a bit of a change from my 110 V8! There's a new book out in the UK next week . . . Original Landrover Series I The Restorers Guide to all civil and military models 1948 -1958 by James Taylor So I'll probably read that first thanx again SEE YA! '85 110 V8 _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_ Simon Ward-Hastelow Orpington, Kent, U.K. whastelow@atlas.co.uk _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_ ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:27:28 -0700 From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Subject: Back from Billing & UK I just got back from Billing and it was amazing! They evidently had about 2000+ Land Rovers of all kinds and conditions there. About half or more came towing caravans. At first glance it looked like there were a lot of Land Rovers at the caravan meet. I never realized how much the British love to caravan. There seemed to be a lot more Defenders than series cars. The Range Rover registry was there with lots of Range Rovers, many of which looked very well used in greenlaning and off road trials.There were easily three dozen 101s and large numbers of lightweights. I noticed 4 109 cab forwards, including one converted to a Rover V8. There were about half a dozen of the series I prototypes there including one with a Willeys stationwagon like body. There were two very nice series I fire engines. The Dormobile club was there for the first time and 8 cars showed up including Walter Swain's new red Dormobile driven by Richard Brownlee, one from Germany and one from Switzerland. Among the unusual was an amphibious Land Rover complete with its pontoons (It went for a swim), the #1 Range Rover prototype, two 6X6 Range Rovers, one 6X6 series III 109, a 1967 88 that was one of the V8 test cars, a 100 inch wheel base Military Land Rover, a factory 2 wheel drive series III 88, the Llama prorotype, 8 Camel Trophy 110s and 2 Camel trophy Discoverys, a Land Rover with tracks under all fours and much much more. Dakar was there with 3 of their Range Rover conversions. Looked to me like the ultimate short range off road car, There was a few 130s and a 110 that was converted with a shortened 130 body. A lot of the 101s were in process camper conversions. The Ford V6 seemed to be the most common petrol engine conversion. I never realized how compact that engine is. It looked tiny inside a series engine bay. There was lots off room to spare. The car I got a ride to Billing in had a Discovery frame, widened, shortened 109 body, and Jag V12 engine! Thanks Don for the ride!!!! The off road track was about the same level of difficulty as the one in the Portland All British Field Meet but had a water section. Many dealers were there along with several second hand parts companys. There was a place that seemed to specialize in just about any Land Rover toy, some at very dear prices. In the main arena, there were giving lessons in recovery techniques when not having clubs come out and display their cars. I was there Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Thursday camping out in a little blue tent that quickly filled up with parts. On Saturday, I ran across Walter from Sacramento. We chatted and had dinner together. On Sunday, I ran across John from Spokane in the series I area. Sunday I got a ride to Surry in Walter's new Dormobile driven by Richard Brownlee. THANKS RICHARD!! And Thanks for holding onto my purchases untill I was ready to return to the U.S. A couple of people had a roof top tend that went over the side and provided a large tent like space along side the car as well as twin bunks on the roof. It is made by a German company. Also, there was a German who made a tilt top camper conversion 88 that could sleep 3. This was an amazing bit of ingenious engineering. All in all I had a wonderful time, picked up a few odds & ends, met some nice people and never walked past so many Land Rovers without paying attention to them in my life. I plan to have pictures at Portland. I loved some of the prices I came across, like the mounting hardware for a shovel and pick axe for 6 pounds. At 2.50 pounds for a pair of genuine Land Rover gloves, I couldn't pass them up. I wonder what the airport X-ray people thought when the took a picture of my duffle and found things like a new exhaust manifold, and my 6 pound outrigger for the front aux. petrol tank? I couldn't fit a 101 in my luggage, nor could I figure out a legal way to get one home. But the LRO photographer did take a picture of me behind the wheel of a 101. But I do wonder if it is possible to get a new coil frame built up for a 109 cab forward with Rover V8 engine mounts?? If you get a chance to go to Billing next year, by all means go. It was very impressive and a lot of fun. Of course a lot of the fun is meeting and chatting with so many nice people!!!! Thanks again to Don and Richard for providing transportation. It was a BIG help!! Take care!! TeriAnn twakeman@scruznet.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:29:06 -0700 From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Subject: ? about fitting Mantec snorkle to series LR One of the asundry items I picked up at Billing was a Mantec Snorkle. These kits are designed for the current Defender & I have a series II with its oil bath filter. I was told I could remove the top plate and weld a sharp bend to the intake hole at the top of the filter. There is just one minor problem... The diameter of the pipe is greater than the distance between the filter intake with top removed and the bottom of the bonnet. It looks like the input should come into the side at about 90 degrees to the right of the output opening. So how have other people plumbed a standard Mantec snorkle into a series oil bath oil cleaner???????????? If memory serves, doesn't the series I oil bath air cleaner have a side tube input? Are the plumbing passages the same diameter as the series II air filter?? Suggestions???? TeriAnn twakeman@scruznet.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 22:41:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: Re: you've been unsubscribed from the lro lists On Sun, 28 Jul 1996 Gregspitz@aol.com wrote: > I have no connection with this company and received this "ad" and only > included it in my email to show what I received unsolicited and wanted > comments. >. Interesting bit about the advert is some of the stuff could end up getting confinscated by US Customs... They are a bit bold with the Series III lighweight page on their web site... ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 22:56:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca> Subject: Re: Superchargers, Big V-8s and a rusting Daisy On 28 Jul 1996 RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM wrote: > You asked if the Salibury axle was the same as the Dana 44. I have to > wonder in what respect you mean. The Salisbury's are fantastically >. The guts of a Salisbury are indeed a Dana diff. American, used in a lot of stuff over here. Not sure, but I seem to recall that the Salisbury is a Dana 44. Probably meaningless to someone in the UK, but to people on this side of the pond... ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:09:55 -0400 Subject: Re: SIIA or SIII ?? Matthew is concerned that Bertha is a cross dresser: >It has SIII door hinges, grill, and front lights, but definitely an SIIA >gearbox, and dashboard.It also has a blatantly SIIA bonnet(the one you just >lift off, with the non-rounded end. Both standard and deluxe bonnets were used on SII, SIIA, and SIII. The standard is flatter with a "knife" front edge, while the deluxe is thicker with the rounded front edge. There was also a version of the deluxe with a depression for the spare tyre. I believe SIIA and SIII bonnet hinges differed, but don't know the differences. What are the windscreen hinges: single metal thickness as on a SII & SIIA, or stamped as on SIII? This should identify the bulkhead as SIII or not. I suspect it may be a '68 SIIA with the headlamps in the wings, and later replacement SIII grille and doors. Nothing would have been SIII prior to SIII production, with the usual exception of the few items which were available and used early, but not 3 years early. David Cockey Rochester, MI ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Defendr90@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:19:41 -0400 Subject: Late model LR parts for sale or trade I've got a few extra parts that might be of interest to someone building a V8 Series vehicle or someone who justs wants a few spares. 1) R380 5-speed manual transmission 2) LT230 transfer box 3) Rover style differential carriers 4) Rebuilt V8 water pump Will consider trade for winch or something interesting. E-mail me for more information. Regards, Brian Cramer '94 D90 #1251 '90 RR County ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:29:45 -0400 Subject: Re: ? about fitting Mantec snorkle to series LR In a message dated 96-07-28 22:37:53 EDT, you write: >If memory serves, doesn't the series I oil bath air cleaner have a side >tube input? Are the plumbing passages the same diameter as the series II >air filter?? >From a parts book SI used an air cleaner with a side air intake through '54. I'd guess that those are tough to come by. I have a SII with a LR snorkle intake. The snorkle goes thorough the side of the wing, into an aircleaner with a side intake which is different than the SI. It is also shorter than the original SII air cleaner, and a different air cleaner / battery mount is used. Don't think this helps you, but though it might be of interest. One other thought: early Jeeps used a similar type air cleaner as did some farm tractors. Maybe something else has an air cleaner more suitable for modification. Also I've seen LR's with the snorkle going through the bonnet, presumable with a sponge rubber gasket sealing to an openning in the top of the air cleaner. ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:41:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: Misc. (digress to content discussion) This is not intended to get Jim in trouble with Bill nor start a major debate, but how would others construe the nature of the following edited and highly condensed portion of Jims message? Is it making some useful info available since D90's are tough to find, or a commercial advertisement, or both? >LRMW has a 1995 SW (Arles Blue) #2/500 in stock w/3500 miles w/AC and = >brush bar/running boards. Not cheap. But is as-new condition. ............... >Post me for further info on the D90 SW. I'm not looking to start a long debate, just a concise summary of the policy from someone. Personally, I appreciate Jim's updates on the state of new Land Roverdom. David Cockey Rochester, Michigan (Disclaimer: no commercial connection to anything Land Rover) ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:16:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff & Laura Kessler <lmkessler@srnet.com> Subject: NJ LR dealer plug Just returned from a trip to DC and NJ and had a chance to drop into my most convenient LR dealer, 15 minutes from my parents house and 6 hours from my house. Schneider & Nelson in W Long Branch NJ. Since it was only a month since my last visit the assist. sales manager, Linda Savino, recognized me and welcomed me in to browse and ask all I wanted. In the showroom along side the two Discos and 4.0SE was a new (reconditioned) 88" SIII Station Wagon. According to Linda, this SIII belonged to the owner and was the 2nd series LR he restored. Again (since last months plug)...let me say that I have never brought anything from them or had service there (and nobody ever said go take that 4.6 for a test drive either), but...a dealership that restores and displays series LRs says alot to me about their interest and their attitude about the product they sell. BTW, they had a used red 94 D90 with safari cage on the front lot. All I know. Sightings...lots (for me) of Discos and Classic and new RRs in that part of NJ. Some Discos and a few RRs around DC during my 2 days of commuting up and down Conn. Ave. No series LRs sighted on the road and only D90 was a yellow one west bound on the Tappen Zee bridge Sunday afternoon. I was in our GMC this trip, need some " My other vehicle is a ..." bumper stickers. Jeff Kessler 1988 Range Rover Newport NH USA 603-863-7883 ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 00:07:28 PST Subject: Distributor From: rhodesia@juno.com (Chris R. Whitehead) Hi I am looking for a distributor that can be reconditioned for my Series IIA. I am hoping that someone on the list can help me-I know I can always go to BP or one of those dealers (sorry for the commercial names mentioned), but would almost rather recondition one. Also anyone out there with a spare Series IIA steering wheel -spoked one-I am still looking. Cheers Chris W ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 00:26:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Misc. (digress to content discussion) On Sun, 28 Jul 1996 Wdcockey@aol.com wrote: > This is not intended to get Jim in trouble with Bill nor start a major > debate, but how would others construe the nature of the following edited and [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)] > I'm not looking to start a long debate, just a concise summary of the > policy from someone. Personally, I appreciate Jim's updates on the state > of new Land Roverdom. I strongly agree that Jim's messages are an asset to the list. He is clearly a Land Rover fanatic and his interest in Land Rovers is shown in part by the fact that he now works for Land Rover. His messages about what is coming from Land Rover are of interest to all enthusiasts. Further, I like to know what is out there and I feel that his posts regarding Land Rovers for sale are informative, brief and constitute another "plus" for the list. If a message comes across as "informative" regarding Land Rovers, I think that it is appropriate for the lists; if it comes across as "advertising" I think it is not acceptable. Although individuals are bound to disagree on what distinguishes the two, I suggest that Jim's approach enhances the "informative" side: his posts regarding Land Rovers for sale are brief, specific, and the reader is asked to contact him if they would like more information. I consider posts from British Pacific for example (say, announcing that they have fabricated a new roof rack) to be in a similar vein. After all, if such news is tastefully presented, we all learn about it before we might hear 'second hand' as when a list member writes that they have just installed a new diff cover made by Southdown or Safari Gard, etc. It is clear that the long-winded notices from "Renewed Traditions" come across as advertising - with all of the hype and questionable legality of what they are selling. OTOH, I wouldn't mind a brief message requesting anyone to who is interested to contact them for what is available. Making the distinction between "information" and "advertising" may not be easy - and brings to mind a debate occurring in King County, Washington State: the County Council (and Court) is arguing whether topless dancers performing on platform stages are expressing "art" or "lewd behavior." With that, I'll get off the soap box. Best wishes, David Rosenbaum '94 D90 (surrey top: is that more topless than not??) ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:39:56 +0200
From: Peter Kutschera <peter@zditf2.arcs.ac.at>
Subject: Re: Hot Diesel: White smoke=possible trouble
Hello!
My LR produces HUGE amounts of 'white' looking smoke when idle or
downhill.
It was told to me, that this isn't white but blue smoke,
maybe from one (some? all?) bad injectors.
I will try this when I get reconditioned injectors.
Next guess is valves, head gasket or head, timeing chain...:-(
I don't have an overheating problem.
BTW; There are different thermostats available.
Are you sure you have the right?
Maybe this helps you a little.
Good luck
Peter
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]From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden) Subject: Re: Spare Bits List Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 9:06:02 BST > Especially if a breakdown makes one's Land Rover undriveable, and one's > spare bits & spare tools are not sufficient to make the repair, a > comforting addition to the Spare Bits List would be a quantity of > Guinness. Well, on Saturday, I needed to use my spare tyre (now to learn about changing valves, and repairing punctures...), Lucar connectors, wire, and soldering iron. The wire from the filter (FFR only) to the coil broke. Took longer to find the problem (not starting, but turning over => fuel or electrics), than to repair it. Currently the filter is out of the circuit, but if it stops raining, I'll wire it back in tonight. Don't know if the D90 trialler who stopped, is reading this, but thanks for stopping (a surprising number of Defenders didn't, but then you were obviously an enthusiast!), but we'd just found the problem when you stopped! A Discovery(!) also stopped, just as I was about to restart the journey (everything packed back in, seatbelt on,etc). "Now then, Now then..." Yes it was the Police! Explained we were okay and about to set off. Nothing about overloading either. 3/4 ton? I'd be interested to know how much I really had! Richard (ex-Gurkja SIII FFR 3/4 ton) ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 29 Jul 96 04:21:57 EDT
From: Alain-Jean PARES <75240.2021@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: RE: Hot Diesel: White smoke=possible trouble
>BTW; There are different thermostats available.
>Are you sure you have the right?
Even without the thermostat, I have overheating...
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]From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden) Subject: Re: Spare Bits List Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 9:22:51 BST > > comforting addition to the Spare Bits List would be a quantity of > > Guinness. > Well, on Saturday, I needed to use my spare tyre (now to learn about changing > valves, and repairing punctures...), Lucar connectors, wire, and soldering > iron. The wire from the filter (FFR only) to the coil broke. Took longer Apologies for replying to my own mail, but also add Christmas Decoration Tape to the list (couldn't find the insulation tape...). Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII FFR 109) PS: Hi Beth! The first CIXen I've seen on the list. ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Diesel-trouble / truck--stop!
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 9:54:02 BST
> Question to diesel experts follows:
Sorry, know nothing about diesels, but I'll list the obvious
(as everyone with twin tanks knows, the obvious [the changeover tap
being knocked] always takes an hour to find on at least one occasion! :-) )
> I have two theories ("Ah, clever [lan]DR[over] Watson..."): 1. The air
> cleaner needs an overhaul. 2. There is dirt somewhere in the fuel system.
With my (petrol) engine, I had a sudden drop to idle, whilst attempting to
accelerate out of a junction and climb a small hill.
Would start/stop okay, but the accelerator wasn't as springy as usual.
Checked the linkages below the accelerator - all looked okay. Under the
bonnet, a linkage to the carburettor had come undone. This I clipped into
place, and I was away (literally a 2 second repair).
In other words, have you checked your linkages? Does the accelerator feel
different (don't know how the diesel's linkage is sprung)
> PS: I hereby state my protest to referring to a Land Rover as a "truck" by
> some of you lads in the US. In my modest opinion, a Land Rover was, is and
> in eternity will be - a Vehicle.
Mine is a truck, but it says so on the vin plate.
"Truck Utility FFR 4x4 3/4 ton Rover Series 3" (Perhaps not in that order,
but the words are right!)
I decided "car" wasn't *quite* right. Although I haven't really named it
yet, it also sometimes gets called "Alice" (what else do you call a military
vehicle?)
Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII FFR 109)
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]From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM Date: 29 Jul 96 06:19:23 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Superchargers, Big V-8s and a rusting Daisy Dixon, Is the Salisbury definitly a 44 (a bit sad really if our reputedly heavy duty axle is merely a medium duty US one). I am interested in diff-locks, so this may make purchase a bit easier. The casings are different though I assume. What vehicles are the Dana axles used under? I wonder just to increase my list of generic parts and also if I need later to swap my axles, they might be on the list of ones I'd use, availability of spares is an issue. Regards, Ralph. ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11:51:14 +0000 From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth) Subject: Re: SIIA or SIII ?? >I have a 1968 ex-RAF SIIA SWB, but I think that it is suffering an identity >crisis. >It has SIII door hinges, grill, and front lights, but definitely an SIIA >gearbox, and dashboard.It also has a blatantly SIIA bonnet(the one you just >lift off, with the non-rounded end. As Dave Cockey says,the best clue is the windscreen mounting brackets. The 11A has flat brackets welded on the outer face of the bulkhead,the S111 has box sections on the front face of same.Lights could well be original,my '70 civvy 88" has the lights arranged so.Door hinges I think are interchangeable,and the plastic grill you can still get for about fifteen quid or so.(Bad move,in my view). The bonnet hinges for a 11A should be a horizontal pintle and gudgeon arrangement(ie to remove bonnet,you take out a split pin in one of the hinges and slide sideways)the S111 has a more complicated arrangement with a nylon bush involved. But then,its difficult to say with ex mil stuff. Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960729 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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