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1 MHKINGER@aol.com 8Re: Mail
2 Olafur Agust [hmo@rvik.i33Charging problem!!
3 ricky@drift.demon.co.uk 10SIII springs (A whiff of spring)
4 ricky@drift.demon.co.uk 16ban on leaded petrol
5 landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mi27Re: Spare Parts to carry
6 landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mi23Re: Dormobile roof for 110
7 faurecm@halcyon.com (C. 23RE: Hot Diesel: White smoke=possible trouble
8 faurecm@halcyon.com (C. 13Alpine Windows
9 hilltop [hilltop@advanta14Re: Pinking
10 lopezba@atnet.at 14Rover 400/600
11 harincar@internet.mdms.c26zenith mixture screw
12 hilltop [hilltop@advanta32Re: Series I 80" or 86"
13 Gregspitz@aol.com 104Renewed Traditions
14 "William L. Leacock" [7516Rear light wire colors
15 Wdcockey@aol.com 24Diesels
16 Jim Pappas [roverhed@m3.14Eagle has landed
17 Wilbert [smee@ix.netcom.12[not specified]


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From: MHKINGER@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:10:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Mail

I seem to be getting most of mine but I'm told some has been sent thou I have
not received it. May be a problem.

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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:25:52 GMT
From: Olafur Agust <hmo@rvik.ismennt.is>
Subject: Charging problem!!

Hi !!
Im still trying to get my S2a =B466 to running condition - well it is really
running but i have a few things left to worry about. The one that is
bothering me now - is the charge/ignition light on the "dashboard" - it wont
go out - so the dynamo is most certainly not charging the battery!! - clever
guy i am!! I have tested the dynamo as prescribed in the Haynes manual - it
looks OK - also the wiring going from it to the regulator/cut-out (what
ever!) - it also looks ok - though the dynamo voltage reading was a bit high
(according to Haynes) - 19.5V - Now Haynes says i should check the regulator
- but i cant see anything wrong with it (i may be blind!! - who knows?) -
Does anyone know if i can skip the regulator to test if anything happens???
- Any suggestions at all??

Also!!  - unrelated! - when i push the accelerator pedal a bit quickly - the
engine seems to "sufficate" - and kill it self!! - probably ignition timing
- but i dont seem to able to fix it - well not with the timing screw at the
distributor cap anyway!! - any suggestions???

Help me!!

Thanx   Olafur Agust 
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| hmo@rvik.ismennt.is       =B466 SIIa SWB                               |
| "If corrupt people will join forces!! - honest people must do the    |
|  same!!  -  ...it is as simple as that!!"                            |    =

|                                 War and Peace                        |
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:44:23 GMT
From: ricky@drift.demon.co.uk (Rick Turner)
Subject: SIII springs (A whiff of spring)

If you can't source your springs in the US, you can get them shipped
from Paddock here in the UK. Phone is +44 (0)1629 584498. Cost is about
40 GB pounds each for rear springs.

Rick Turner

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:51:12 GMT
From: ricky@drift.demon.co.uk (Rick Turner)
Subject: ban on leaded petrol

Even if the Eurocrats (I'm sure the penultimate letter should be a
'p' and not a 't') manage to ban leaded petrol, I for one am not
bothered. I have two petrol SIII's and will either change them
over to unleaded heads, or simply shove diesels in both. The increased
fuel economy of the diesel would pay for the conversion in a year in
the one vehicle, and maybe two years in the other.

I suspect the proposed ban would affect us rover owners rather less
than other classic car owners.

Rick Turner

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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:29:31 -0400
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: Spare Parts to carry 

Bill Adams hits the nail on the head....

>You'd have to be nuts to haul around all this stuff all the time.
-

Besides tools, I carry a set of points, cap, rotor and condensor. A couple
of quarts of 90W, A gallon of water/antifreeze, a bottle of Castrol LMA, a
can of WD-40 and a 1 lb coffee can of assorted nuts and bolts.

For long trips I throw in the spare axel shafts, spare distributer,
carburator and fuel pump (if I remember where I left them last!)

Since I only have seats on one side in the back of my 88, all of this stuff
except the axels fit nicely on the other side - which has been boxed in with
plywood to make a storage bin.  

Cheers
Mike Loiodice
166 W. Fulton St.                  1965 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Faded Green     
Gloversville                       1972 SerIII 88 Petrol - Fern Camo
NY  12078  (USA)        7          1971 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Red and Blue
                     #:-}>         1964 Triumph Spitfire - BRG

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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:29:33 -0400
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: Dormobile roof for 110

Simon Ward-Hastelow asks...

>Is it possible to fit a doormobile roof to a 1985 110 CSW and if so where
>could I get one from.
-

I'm assuming that you want to swap out an entire roof from a 109 Dormobile
for the roof on the 110. The only thing that won't fit is the windshield
since the 110 windshield is about 2 inches taller than the 109 windshield.
You would have to modify your 110 roof to take all the hardware from the 109
roof.

Cheers
Mike Loiodice
166 W. Fulton St.                  1965 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Faded Green     
Gloversville                       1972 SerIII 88 Petrol - Fern Camo
NY  12078  (USA)        7          1971 SerIIa 88 Petrol - Red and Blue
                     #:-}>         1964 Triumph Spitfire - BRG

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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:22:48 -0700
From: faurecm@halcyon.com (C. Marin Faure)
Subject: RE: Hot Diesel: White smoke=possible trouble

Back in the late 1960s, I worked on a ranch in Colorado before going to
college.  We had a diesel road grader than was first started on gasoline,
and then switched over to diesel fuel when the cylinders were warmed up.  I
remember when we would first make the switch, the exhaust was almost pure
white for a minute or two.  Doesn't relate to the Land Rover, but thought
it might be interesting.

A white exhaust in a gas engine generally means coolant is getting into a
combustion chamber, either through a faulty head gasket or a crack in a
cylinder wall, which is what happened to me once with my Ford F-250.
However, I have seen diesel cement trucks started in the morning at a plant
on my way to work, and I've noticed that the exhaust is sometimes quite
thick and is a milky white or light gray.  Obviously this goes away fairly
soon, as I don't see it coming from any of the trucks on the road.

Marin Faure
1973 Series III
1991 RR Vogue SE

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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:27:45 -0700
From: faurecm@halcyon.com (C. Marin Faure)
Subject: Alpine Windows

I'm still hoping someone can supply me with a paper template of the roof
cutout for the Alpine windows as used on a Series III.  If anyone has
access to a Series Land Rover with the Alpine windows removed and is
willing to make a quick tracing of the cutout, or at leat one end of it, I
would be eternally grateful.  Thanks.

C. Marin Faure
        author, Flying A Floatplane

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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 02:00:50 -0500
From: hilltop <hilltop@advantage.ca>
Subject: Re: Pinking

Advanced ignition timing, lean fuel mixture, carbon deposites (or any 
other sharp edge which can hold heat and act as a glow plug) and/or 
excessive engine temperature can contribute to this situation.
   Try a tank of high test petrol with a good dose of fuel treatment 
that claims to remove carbon deposites and watch your guages to make 
sure the engine is not running too hot (if it is check your cooling 
system- rad level, belts, thermostat, hoses, etc.). If this doesn't 
clear up the problem start into the mechanical adjustments others have 
mentioned.

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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 21:32:30 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Rover 400/600

Sorry for the non-LR-content, but I hope you will help me. I am looking for 
a car, daily driver, and looked at the Rover 400 and 600 models, among other 
makes. I am thinking of the 2 liter turbodiesel. Anybody have any first- or 
secondhand knowledge about reliability, reputation, etc.? They are rather 
rare over here, so I can't think of anybody to ask.
Thanks in advance
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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From: harincar@internet.mdms.com
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 15:01:17 -0500
Subject: zenith mixture screw

Yet another stupid carb question. I'm still fighting with an over-rich mixture,
the screw never did seem to do anything. So I have the carb (3 years old) all
apart on my bench. I was looking at the port that the mixture screw goes in
to, and it seems that its just a port fo additional air to enter. True? Now,
I just recently bought a new bleed screw. Both the screw that was in there
and the new one have a slot in them, but in both slots there is a piece of
greenish plastic. 

It would seem to me, that this bit of plastic is defeting the purpose of the
screw - i.e. to allow air in along the screw body. Why else would it be there
(the slot, that is)? I had originally though that the screw controlled *fuel*.

Any insight? Send a copy to me, too, since I don't really trust the major right
now. Thanks,

Tim
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tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com
'66 IIa 88 SW

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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 05:22:29 -0500
From: hilltop <hilltop@advantage.ca>
Subject: Re: Series I 80" or 86"

Hello Simon and crazy Mrs.

In regards to a S1 , 80 or 86; is this a hobby or a means of 
transportation? I have been driving one on and off for my daily 
transportation for 5 years now. It's not for the faint of heart or the 
man in a hurry. Needs alot of muscle in the leg and the arms to stop and 
steer. Maximum speed it can be driven at for extended distance by any 
person with a sympathetic ear for engine components is about 45 m/h on 
the speedo, with 32" tyres this gives me about 50 m/h actual speed. I 
don't know what newer Rovers do - S1's don't accelerate they gather 
speed. Many people argue they were built for agriculture, more of a 
tractor than a vehicle; I wouldn't go that far. Every bad thing you've 
heard about the heating is true.
   On the other hand, it's given me lots of priceless moments, 
experience, freedom to be impulsive and joy. Off road it's nearly 
unstopable with the right tyres.
   I've run mine for all this time on unleaded petrol. Last week I had 
the head off, the exhast valves looked fairly pitted but the seats 
looked great. On both of the two 1997cc engined I've had apart number 4 
exhast valve is BURNT, 3 is bad, 2 is O.K. and number 1 is great. Might 
be something to watch for.
   In the 5 plus years I've owned mine I've only seen one other S1 and I 
bought it for parts, needless to say you really stand out in a S1.
   In short, think model T ford with 4WD.
   If you want more info contact me at hilltop@advantage.ca re:rovers

                          Happy Rover hunting;      Ronald

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From: Gregspitz@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 18:14:18 -0400
Subject: Renewed Traditions 

I received this "ad" from a place in Atlanta and it sounds interesting...any
comments?  Does this vehicle sound to good??

We at Renewed Traditions are proud to offer you volume one of : THE MONTHLY
SAFARI.  This is a one page memo put out once a month to keep all of our Land
Rover enthusiast friends up to date on some of our current specials and
monthly sales. 

WHATS NEW:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------Time to turn a couple of our
personal demos.  These vehicles have been with us since March and now it is
time to say good bye.

(1) Series/Defender hybrid
This vehicle is a Defender 90 look alike.  The vehicle is Defender dark green
with a limestone top roof, full Defender front end including Defender grill,
hood, wings, lights, etc.  She also has an interior roll cage, highback cloth
defender seats, center console, Full Defender streering system including
column, steering wheel, and all turn signals.  She has new 31/10.50/15 wheels
and tires on color matched limestone wheels.  Left hand drive, full wrap
around front bull bar with swing out light guards.  Rear light guards,
sunroof, front spot lights mounted on bull bar, rear fog lights, new
transmission, full new brake system, new road springs, shocks, fuel tank,
full windows on hard top, AND best of all...She has an all aluminum Rover 3.5
litre V-8 with twin side draft SU's, full headers and free flow exhaust in
rear.  We spent $18,000.00 building this vehicle to take to LR shows. She has
little or no off road use and is in PERFECT condition.  Looking for the right
buyer to give this vehicle the respect she deserves.
FOR SALE  $15,000.00
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(2) Series III spec 88''
For those of us with a more traditional Land Rover in mind, this vehicle is
for you.  She is red with a white roof cap and color matched 16" LR wheels
(hard top has full rear window package)  Brand new low back vinyl interior
with three seats across in the front and facing benches in rear.  Complete
sound deadening kit with new interior carpet and door linings. This vehicle
has a 2.25 liter 4cylinder engine that runs with the best of them.  She can
sustain 70mph on the highway. She is left hand drive complete with a front
bullbar.  This vehicle is a cherry LR in search of a good home.
FOR SALE  $9,900.00
-----------------------------------

OTHER SPECIALS:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------
Series III spec limited editions
--2.25 (4 cylinder) 
--Left hand drive
--Brand new interior
--Complete new soft top convertible canvas with new galvanised hoops and rear
tail gate
--New Paint (you pick the color)
FOR SALE $8,500.00 includes shipping from UK to US

Series III spec 109"s
--2.25 (4cylinder)
--Left hand drive
--New interior
--New paint (you pick the color)
--Color matched hard top/ wheel combination
FOR SALE $9000.00 includes shipping from UK to US

Light Weights
--Ex MOD 
--Left hand drive
--Tarmac vehicles with low, low miles
--Mint condition
FOR SALE $7,500.00 includes shipping from UK to US

PARTS FOR SALE:
--Engine rebuild kit (incl: pistons, rings, main bearings, pins, all gasgets
and seals, available in .20 and .40 over) $250.00
--Tires 7.50x16
new Stanfords block tread $130.00
remoulded Olympics $110.00
--12 piece Sound Deadening kit $116.15
--Door Bottoms  $85.00
--Door Tops  w/out glass  $51.00
--Fuel Tank 88" SWB Saddle tank 10 gallons  $108.00
--Full Interior Kits (incl: 3 front seats, 2 side facing benches, door
panels, headliner, and carpets.) $515.00
--Weber Carb Conversion for 2.25 petrol engine  $220.00

Thank you for your patronage with Renewed Traditions.  It is because of you,
our loyal friends, that enables us to maintain the highest quality in our
work and extend that quality back to you the customers.  THE PROOF IS IN OUR
VEHICLES !!!
If you have any questions Please feel free to contact us at our North
American Head Quarters located in Atlanta Georgia.
Phone # (770) 379-9911
Fax # (770) 392-9773
E-mail  ATLANTA67@aol.com
WWW  http://users.aol.com/atlanta67/renewed.htm

Thanks again and hope to hear from you soon,
Sean Sinkule
John Duhig 

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Date: 27 Jul 96 18:31:03 EDT
From: "William L. Leacock" <75473.3572@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Rear light wire colors

Re request for rear light wiring colors.
Standard wire colors on british vehicles are :-
Red -                         rear lights and number plate light 
 Green / purple -     stop / brake lights
Green / red -            left hand indicator
 Green / white       - right hand indicator.
Black-		Eaarth / ground
the flasher / indicator lamps normally have a green wire for the feed. ( since
they will fit either side of the vehicle ) 

 regards  Bill Leacock   Limey in exile.

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 20:06:58 -0400
Subject: Diesels

This is a repost from two days ago. I think the original found a black hole.

We had a demonstration ride in a new RR by LR Experience at Billing on
Friday.  When we mentioned we worked for some of the competition, the reply
was along the lines of "we have no competitors, only those who think they
compete". The engineer who took us around mentioned that while the BMW 6 cyl
in the RR was very pleasant on road, and compotent off road, the TDi was
better offroad. Said he had been "caught out" on his first circut of the day
and had stalled the engine by not downshifting. Blamed it on demonstrating a
TDi 90 the previous day. Another interesting comment was that he had
experience with Ford trucks in Borneo while arranging the Camel Trophey, and
they were very strong but tended to lift a wheel.

BTW, we got the demonstration ride with just a polite inquiry. Very nice
folks.

David Cockey
Rochester, MI

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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: Eagle has landed
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 01:13:04 -0400

ex-SAS Pink Panther #10FG56 arrived intact and healthy today. 

I'm in love (again!).

Look to see its North American "debut" at Stowe and/or LRMW this fall.

cheers
Jim 

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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 02:45:05 -0700
From: Wilbert <smee@ix.netcom.com>

subscribe cso-digest

Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm
---OR---
Quote of my life:
When you love something....let it free..
If it comes back...it's yours...
If it doesn't, it was never meant to be....

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