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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:46:51 -0700
From: "Franklin H. Yap" <FHYap@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: July LRO Mag

> July AND August. 

Thanks for your responses. Wouldn't you know it - I got the July issue 
today.  It seems to be the same size as usual. (I'll probably get the 
August issue next week.)

FHY

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Subject: Re: RoverWeb, FAQ and OVLR pages 
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:52:20 -0700
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@ridgecrest.ca.us>

In message <199607251511.IAA24591@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us>you write:
> > Don't know about anyone else, but I STILL can't access the pages, at 
> > either www or www1!
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> either. I suspect that the domain hasn't been replicated to the 
> nessasary name servers, or it hasn't been listed properly.

	It worked for me last night.  I checked before I posted.  The
names server for that network is 199.120.150.1.  www1 has been assigned to 
199.120.150.7 for over a year now.  www used to be 199.120.150.1, but now
is supposed to be mapped to 199.120.150.7.

lo-pan2:nslookup www1
------------
Name:    lo-pan.ridgecrest.ca.us
Address:  199.120.150.7
Aliases:  www1.ridgecrest.ca.us

lo-pan3:nslookup www
------------
Name:    lo-pan.ridgecrest.ca.us
Address:  199.120.150.7
Aliases:  www.ridgecrest.ca.us

	When I started this email, the web server didn't respond.  Now it
does.  I'll drop the Admins som email so that they can look into the problem.

Ben

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Benjamin Smith----------bens@ridgecrest.ca.us----------1972 Land Rover SIII 88
"...If I were running such a contest, I would specifically eliminate any entry
 from Ben involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere.  He'd drive it up the
 Amazon basin for a half can of Jolt and a stale cookie..."  --Kevin Archie

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Subject: Any LRO's or Off-Roading in Orlando ?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:58:04 -0400
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>

Looks like I'll be there from monday for better than a week.

What do Mickey and Minnie drive ?

-B

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From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com>
Subject: RE: Discovery Rentals
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 96 16:23:00 CDT

Actually, the US won a silver last night in show jumping or some such   
equestrian event.

One of the women from the Australian team was riding with a broken leg,   
and I heard the reason for her broken leg was an off-roading injury   
involving her new Land Rover 110. - of course, they didn't say which   
model...  (Maybe she was jumping her horse over the Land Rover, and her   
horse stopped to admire the alpine windows.)

I guess that just goes to prove a point: horses and Land Rovers are   
related.  Well, not really. :)

Douglas Boehme
'95 Red D90 #2767
 ---------------------------------------------
 ----------
I heard that NBC wasn't covering events where Americans were not
        going to win anything, so for equestrian, doubt these chaps
        would get anything on cable anyway... :-)

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:33:59 -0400
Subject: -

subscribe lro-digest

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From: QROVER80@aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:41:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Dormobile for sale

Sorry about the posting of my "for sale" add on the (non commercial) list. 
NOT my idea.
Rgds Quintin Aspin

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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:48:15 +0100
From: rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A. Virzi)
Subject: Possible Dormobile faux pas

Sorry to any who may have been offended by my forwarding of the post
regarding a doormobile for sale.  Didn't realize it was a commercial rover
- I was just trying to pass on the info.  I'll try not to let that happen
again.         -Bob

  rvirzi@gte.com             Think Globally. ===
  +1(617)466-2881                            === Act Locally!

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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:55:21 -0700
From: tspoto@az.com (Thomas Spoto)
Subject: Re: Discovery Rentals

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
>	going to win anything, so for equestrian, doubt these chaps
>	would get anything on cable anyway... :-)

Sorry about the lack of Rover content. It's nice to live on the Canadian
border and watch CBC which gives much better coverage than NBC. Who needs to
watch Katie Couric work in a short order cafe?
Tom Spoto
tspoto@az.com
        2 x 72 88's
        1 x 67 88   a truely international project

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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:55:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: rovah@agate.net (John Cassidy)
Subject: Rear wiring help needed!

Well, I'm finally getting back on track with the IIA project!  I need some
help with the wiring hook-ups in the rear.  The orange lights have a green
and a black wire coming out of them.  The red lights have a red wire, a
black wire, and a green/purple wire coming out.
     The harness that I have(from Rover's North) has two ends(don't know
which goes to the left and which to the right!).  One side has; a red wire,
a green/purple wire, a green/red wire, and a green/brown wire.  The other
side has; two red wires in a double connector, two green/purple wires in a
double connector, a green/brown wire, and a green/white wire.
      They told me that the green/brown wires are for back-up lights.  Can
anyone walk me through the other connections?  I am assuming that the
green/white wire is for the liscense plate light, but I'm not sure!

All help is greatly appreciated!

Cheers!  John

John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA

2 Wheels: Ducati M900, Velocette Thruxton, Moto Morini 350S
4 Wheels: 1995 Discovery, 1987 Range Rover, 1966 Series IIA

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Date: 26 Jul 96 12:03:59 EDT
From: Alain-Jean PARES <75240.2021@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: RE: Hot Diesel: White smoke=possible trouble

>White smoke may be caused by coolant leaking into one of the cylinders. 
>Diesel smoke should never be white. Blue or black, yes. White usually 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>Bill Adams
>3D Artist/Animator

Thanks, but I have no water leak !

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:07:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: 12/4/95 <rsloan@titan.liunet.edu>
Subject: Lights! Camera! Action! (fwd)

Dirk,

Have you gone through any mud or a lot of water lately?  Because if you 
have, you might be experiencing what I'm going through now.  About two 
days after I drove up the "unpassable" muddy trail that serves as a 
friend's driveway (it's about two miles long into deep woods) my rear 
signal lights ceased to function.  Both left and right front signals were 
clicking double time however, and when I went and opened the rear lights 
a ton of crap and mud spilled out.  My assumption is is that those rear 
wells that the lights sit in are a perfect trap for whatever gets kicked 
up by the rear wheels.  I constantly have to clean out those wheels and 
make sure the lights are connected and not full of goop.  I'm 
thinking of rigging some kind of flap or something to block debris from 
entering those wells.  Otherwise, every other day or so I have to jiggle 
the wires so I can turn or change lanes without receiving the finger for 
my efforts.

Rich
95 D90, no name yet, just a number-#2948
 

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:29:50 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Subject: Re: Today's handy $10 off road tip

If you frequently travel around with diving gear, there is a very handy 
tyre inflator attachment available which fits onto the low pressure BC hose. Of 
course it needs some common sense not to keep on inflating up to the first stage 
intermediate pressure (130psi for my regs).
Allan
St. Lucia

On 25 Jul 96, Richard Brownlee <101360.3273@CompuServe.COM> wrote:

>Hi all
>Rather than use those mini air compressors for re-inflating tyres, I use a 

scuba
>diving cylinder which has a 3000 psi capacity.  They only cost a few pounds to
>get refilled at a diving shop with dry air. My one has a different valve
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
>Richard
>Surrey UK
>77 Range Rover

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:19:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Lights! Camera! Action! (fwd)

On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, 12/4/95 wrote:

> Have you gone through any mud or a lot of water lately?  Because if you 
> have, you might be experiencing what I'm going through now.  About two 
> days after I drove up the "unpassable" muddy trail that serves as a 

	Sounds like grounding problems to an extent.  When I rewired the rear
	of the 109 I ran the ground all the way back up front to the battery.
	Ground point on the frame was just too susceptable to corrosion
	and caused to many problems.

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 13:23:37 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Frameover progress.....

As it stands...

I have the engine back in, and the gearbox is stripped down. The tally of 
replacement parts is:

1st gear 
2nd gear
Reverse slider
Layshaft Cluster
1st and 2nd Synchros
3rd and 4th synchro
all bearings and seals

Total about 700 bucks, not bad as long as I get it put back right...

Should beef up the RN restoration credit a tad. I decided to pay RN prices, the 
only other vendor I would trust is BP. But they were only a few $$ cheaper and 
not Genuine LR. 

I ran the brake lines for the front wheels and the main line to the rear. I have
no idea how these "really" go and they seem to always be either too long or too 
short. Not a fun job, that's probably why I put it off for so long. I need to 
get the proper clips since I let DAP con me into buying the palstic type that 
are meant to hold the line away from the chassis. They don't work properly in 
that application as they seem too easy to pull out. 

I also started to rebuild the rear tub, I've got the new floor set into it, all 
I need is a pop-riveter (thought I had one). For the lengthwise stiffeners, I 
got 1/8" wall 3/4" square aluminum tube from McMaster-Carr, about 10 dollars for
a 6 foot section. The crossmembers I got from RN and had them painted with 
Tnemec here at work. Nice stuff that Tnemec...

Alittle bit of soldering and then it should be ready to go back on the frame. 

Hopefully it will be a productive weekend.

Cheers
Dave B.

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:23:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Spare Parts to carry 

On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Adams, Bill wrote:

> You'd have to be nuts to haul around all this stuff all the time. Let 
> common sense dictate what to carry in the way of spares. For errand 
> running around town, you certainly don't need to have half shafts bonking 
> around in the tub. Or oil or anything else for that matter. The farther 
> afield you travel, the more stuff you'll need. 

	With the middle seat pulled from my 109 wagon, I have old apple
	crates with a good pile of this junk sitting on the floor behind
	the front seats there all the time.  Less effort than putting it 
	in and out all the time.  Tools don't reside there all the time,
	but the gas, oils, etc do.

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 13:53:59 -0400
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: A whiff of spring

I think I'll begin my research now for replacing the rear springs on the 
truck. Anybody out there have, or know of a source for rear 109 SW 
springs please email or otherwise notify me. I won't be doing this chore 
till the fall when it has cooled off, but I want to line up the parts.
Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
Clunking in the corners

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 14:21:18 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re: A whiff of spring

I think I'll begin my research now for replacing the rear springs on the 
truck. Anybody out there have, or know of a source for rear 109 SW 
springs please email or otherwise notify me. I won't be doing this chore 
till the fall when it has cooled off, but I want to line up the parts.
Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
Clunking in the corners

There's a place in Vermont that makes springs...

 Leaf Spring         Young's Springs, Inc., Rutland VT Tel. 802-773-7237

Davifd McKain bought a set for his 88, but then he sold it. He claims to have 
liked them. I do recall talking to the guy that makes 'em, and they are 
different than the Rover spring in that they have thicker leaves and less of 
'em, thereofre less articulation, but firmer ride and possibly more wieght 
carrying ability. My 88 was fitted with similar springs in the rear when I 
bought it. Certainly was a firm ride...

Otherwise RN or BP would be my guess, for originality and quality. A good set 
oughta last a while so 200 clams apiece aint too bad. Or get a "used" set liek I
did...and hope they last a while. I paid approx 30 bucks for all four, plus $60 
to get the bushings out and press one of 'em back into shape. 

BTW, Ron O'day's 88 was diagnosed earlier this week with a serious case of 
bushing death. Seems somebody didn't do such a great job installing his springs.

Dave "..." B.

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 20:40:57 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: ARO

Andy Purser <apurs@worldnet.att.net> wrote a while ago (but the major wnt on 
vacation:

>Hello,
>     Sorry to take up space on the Rover net, but has anyone heard of a
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>Thanks in advance,
>Andy Purser
>apurs@worldnet.att.net

Andy - over here, somebody started importing AROs about ten years ago and 
promptly went belly up about nine years ago. The ARO is not supposed to be 
one of the better choices, and you will see very few on or off the road in 
Western and Central Europe, although you will see quite a lot of Russian 
cars. 3,750 probably is too good to be true - for the seller!
Sorry
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 20:53:32 +0100
From: whastelow@atlas.co.uk (Simon Ward-Hastelow)
Subject: Series I 80" or 86"

Can anyone help . . . we are looking around for a second car to accompany
our 1985 110 V8, we definately DO NOT want a new car, after considering
practical classics in UK, Morris Minors etc, which we've owned before, we
decided the absolute MUST BUY was a Series I after visiting the club stand
at Billing '96.

This is not a romantic blurry eyed thing, I'm lucky in that my wife is just
as mad keen on cars and especially Landrovers as I am (I've seen her
remove, strip down and rebuild an A series engine from a mini!)

I would like to hear any pro's and con's that people have about the series
I's and particularly about what will happen if I can no longer get leaded
4* in UK as the government is planning to ban after 1999.

Any comments will be welcome, including what to look for when buying one.

THANKS

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Simon Ward-Hastelow

Orpington, Kent, U.K.

whastelow@atlas.co.uk

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 20:53:48 +0100
From: whastelow@atlas.co.uk (Simon Ward-Hastelow)
Subject: Re: Spare Bits List

I too am slightly paranoid about what spares and tools to carry . . .

but I think I'v finally got it right; I will not trouble you with a list,
i'm sure it's the same for everyone, but I got my dad to build me two steel
framed boxes that fit exactly between the wheel arches in the bac of my 110
SW (no rear seats are fitted at the moment), these boxes are the same
height as the wheel arches so when in the back I put a bit of old carpet
over the lot which provides a place to sleep for kids etc

I've got TWO boxes because I can carry everyday items in one with a basic
tool kit and replacement bits, fluids etc, and when going further afield I
fill the other one up with the other bits (that never seem to be used, but
the first time i don't carry them! . . .)

By the way on a recent trip to Portugal, totalling 3,000k (1,800 miles)
about a third of which was off-road or rough roads, the only thing from my
entire kit that was required was a replacement indicator bulb!

Another by the way! . . . total fuel consuption during the trip was
24mpg(UK) from a V8 (that's aprox 8kpl I think), yes I had to check my
figures twice to make sure I was right! Well I was pleased anyway.

KEEP OFF-ROADING!

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Simon Ward-Hastelow

Orpington, Kent, U.K.

whastelow@atlas.co.uk

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 20:53:40 +0100
From: whastelow@atlas.co.uk (Simon Ward-Hastelow)
Subject: Dormobile roof for 110

Is it possible to fit a doormobile roof to a 1985 110 CSW and if so where
could I get one from.

If not a doormobile roof, how about a higher roof, I've seen a GRP high
roof for sale in UK for hardtops but not for Station Wagons.

KEEP OFF-ROADING!

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Simon Ward-Hastelow

Orpington, Kent, U.K.

whastelow@atlas.co.uk

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:21:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Rosenbaum <rosenbau@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Spare Bits List

Especially if a breakdown makes one's Land Rover undriveable, and one's
spare bits & spare tools are not sufficient to make the repair, a
comforting addition to the Spare Bits List would be a quantity of
Guinness.

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From: paulc@postoffice.durango.mjt.com
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 14:27:24 -0700
Subject: re:Spare Bits List

In my humble opinion, Every off road vehicle should carry a "Swiss army" kn=
ife,
and a set of Vise-Grips.  On a recent trip into the mountains of Colorado
(@12,000 ft elevation), marmots got into the engine compartment of my truck=
,
while we were on a hike.  Upon inspection, the marmots had severed numerous=

electrical connections, pierced the radiator hose, and even punctured one o=
f
the
brake hoses.  My handy "Swiss army" knife (Victorinox), and a roll of Tuck
brand
Duct tape saved my, well I made back to town.  Evidently, marmots enjoy the=

taste of Anti-freeze (sweet?), until it kills them.

Paul Clay
Durango, Colorado USA

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:51:47 -0400
From: LRO Book Shop & The LRO Shop <lroshop@idirect.com>

W My concern though, speaking as a former welder who's 
seen an oxygen tank go through a block wall and wipe out a car, is 
that people who are not properly trained in the care & feeding of high 
pressure cylinders would try to emulate this practice and end up doing 
themselves or someone else great harm.

My thoughts exactly.  Those not trained should ignore these tips.

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Subject: Digest Services 
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 20:23:29 -0400
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>

Hi All,

	Well, we still haven't got Major back schedule, but that may be
fixed for tomorrow.  If not, hold onto your hats, as this might be the last
digest you see for a number of days. I'll be on a customer site and can't
guarentee time nor access to fix anything.

	I actually got the '63 inspected stateside today, after demonstrating
most of the lamps worked, adjusting the US headlamps, and connecting and
jiggling horn wires and relocating the license plate (so it was 'in range'
of the license plate lamps -- I bent the coat hanger to a different shape
and clipped it on top of the UK plate). The chap slapped a sticker on it.

	Then I bought a short stretch of fuel line from the chap, as the old
one was pissing petrol more or less onto the manifolds.

    Cheers,
        --bill  	caloccia@OpenMarket.com
                 http://www.Senie.com/billc/
       http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/~majordom/lr/
   R  1  3  2wd  H		  D
   +--|--|   o   |             L  3	Land Rovers First
      2  4  4wd  L             |  2	    because
   '63 SIIa RHD 88"            H  1	Land Rovers Last
      793-PTA            '90 RR County

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From: daviscar@cris.com
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 22:25:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Spare Bits List

Fuses
Wires w/alligator clips
Electrical tape
Duct tape
Baling wire ( the LR do/fix all)

>Misc.:
>First-aid kit
>CB

                A Cell Phone (with dc charger if you like)
>Anybody got anything to add? -ajr
>First-aid kit
>CB
Bruce
67 SIIA 88 Patches
WANTED pre 1968 109 In USA
Daviscar@concentric.net
        Or
BDaviscar@aol.com

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