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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:05:58
From: CarDoctor@gnn.com (Robert Davis)
Subject: just a test of email no message

Hi
  This is only a test of the email system.
 

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 05:54:25 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: wanted 109 3door

>I got a lot of replies to this post and have passed them on. How ever the
>person wants's only a three door
;(or a pick up) 109 not a five door. ( I think he is goinng to try annd make
>it a dormmoble out of it.)
; H_ll I would like a dormmoble but just can't find one at the right price
>Can't think of a better camper.
;So thank you all who replied. But Still looking!

A primer for people who have friends who own Dormobiles and want them to
remain friends:

With one poorly documented exception all Dormobiles were based upon the 5
door 109.  An important feature was the seats that fold down into a double
bed.  Also the wide front seat is reversable alowing it to face a rear seat
with a table placed between the seats.  This setup allowed them to sleep 4
people.

They only built about 500ish Dormobiles world wide so they do command
higher prices.

I know its just symantics, but a Land Rover Dormobile is a very limited
edition camper based upon a 109 five door made by Martin Walters.  A two
door set up for camping is a two door set up for camping, even if it makes
extensive use of parts from a Dormobile like my 109.

On the other hand, I elieve that if you want to sleep only 1 or 2 inside,
you can fix up a 2 door 109 to be a better expidition car than a Dormobile.
But even if you use all the standard Dormobile parts its still not a
Dormobile.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com   <- NOTE NEW ADDRESS

Celebrating my tenth year on Usenet/Internet

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From: Gregspitz@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:09:56 -0400
Subject: Re: ? Securing Equipment to D90's 

CB antenna should go to rear side fender above and rear to the wheel flares.
 By the way my D90 air conditioner is excellent and sometimes I wish I could
turn it to a lower fan setting because it is too cold.  Also you should
attach fire extinguisher with zip ties to the roll bars..they usually come
with a bracket that lets you remove the extinguisher.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 10:24:20 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@INETMAIL.ushmm.org>
Subject: More verbal incontinence about my frameover

This one never got through, tried it just after the Major bit the big one.
Originally dated 6/13, I've come a bit further now...

-----------------------------original message-----------------------------

Progress so far...

Last night I installed new seals in the old steering relay. Quite an interesting
task really, the whole time I felt like I was toying witha loaded weapon. I 
cleaned all the surfaces and replaced the seals and the gaskets top and bottom, 
although in retrospect I should have maybe put some gasket goop on the lower 
screws. I drained out as much of the old oilas possible, but it really only 
seemed to want out whenever I was trying to kkep it in...
When I reinstalled the relay, after painting it with primer and black spray 
paint, I coated the entire lump with normal grease, then inserted it into a 
plastic supermarket bag. I coated the inside of the relay hole with the same 
grease, and then dropped in the relay/bag "assembly". After bolting the whole 
bloody mess down I trimmed the excess plastic away. As I said before, in 30 
years we'll know how well it worked. Or sooner if I can't replace all that oil 
that leaked out...
I then set about trying to seperate the motor from the gearbox, not having much 
succes and nearly tipping the lump over on myself. Finally got them apart, and 
after disconnecting the line from the slave cylinder (oops! it's always 
something) I was able to completely seperate them. The gearbox is now resting 
comfortably on some 2x4's and the motor is a little more precariously perched, 
(yet held by the hoist). I've ordered all the gaskets and whatnot (rear main 
seal, etc..)for the engine and tonight I'll set about removing the fuel pump and
oil filler neck and oil filter and maybe the oil pan if I can get it tipped up. 
Not having done this sort of thing is it practical to work on it if it's on its 
side or should I do it upside down? I intend to replace front and rear seals as 
well as check (plastigage and inspect)all the bearings. 

This all only if I can figure out why my hoist was making scary creaking sounds 
last night...

Got the gearbox mounts in, just waiting on a replacement for the spring shackle 
I stripped, then the chassis will be complete.

Lot's of other little projects going on, I've got new support rails for the bed 
which will be painted in Tnemec, which for all you who don't know is cement 
backwards, and is supposed to be pretty darn tootin good stuff. If it's good 
enough for handrails at the Holocaust Museum it's gotta be good enough for a 
Land Rover...

Oh yes and the "damaged" lower fascia from Rover's North came in today, not bad 
at all really, there's a small crack in the vinyl on the bottom section, 
underneath where the steering wheel will be. Out of sight and out of sunlight.
And the heater box won't be full of rust and holes like my old one (at least for
the next few years. Is it okay to waxoyl in there or will it stink up the cab?

Ok time to go...

Cheers
Dave "yeah yeah yeah, Im sure you all really care" B.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:35:00 +0200
From: jody@cyberlab.nl (Jody Scharrenborg)
Subject: Re: Brake problems

>pump the  brakes  a few times
Hi all,
I seem to have a simmilar problem on my '55 S1.
When I start it up I always have to pump the brakes 2 or 3 times to have
normal braking power.
But in my case I'm afraid there is ghost in the machine who decides when
and how much
brakingpower I get. Sometimes I've got 100% and 100 meters ahead I've got zip.
This I can understand but the strange thing is that when I've got no brake
at all,
don't pump, drive on, suddenly when I expect I will need to pump my brakes
they are there! 100%.
Anyone know how to make my ghost listen to me?

Jody driving a S1 1955 SWB in Holland.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 10:44:50 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: I have no life...

Ok, so I haven't made that much progress. Not too bad though.

Replaced left rear wheel studs. Sealed up rear axle drive members. They were 
still loose, awaiting above work.

Ran some brake lines on the chassis, some were the wrong part#

Stripped all external junk off engine, 'cept for timing cover, water pump, fan 
and manifolds. Stripped grime and gunk from block, and wiped with laquer thinner
to get ready for paint. Krylon Jade Green 2003, 2 bucks a can at Sears or order 
from the friendly folks at BP for a bit more, or buy the ones I bought from BP 
before I saw it at Sears...otherwise I'll just send it back. Yes I am CHEAP!

Checked main bearings, clearance just under .0002 or whatever it's supposed to 
be. Phew. Left connector rods alone. Replaced rear main seal, will redo cork T's
when the second set gets here. Any tips on how to get those in w/o the funny 
wedge things they use in the book? Removed front main seal, found scoring on 
pulley so i got tyhe speedysleeve kit...aren't they all that way? What happens 
when my speedi-sleeve gets scored? Do I buy a speedi-sleeve-sleeve?

Replaced 2 frozen (!) wheel cylinders up front and cleaned up back plates 
rerouted front wheel brake pipes to match new cylinders. Thanks Ron.
Removed front left shoes which had all  of about 1/64" of lining left (gasp)
Will replace with one of several sets of used shoes acquired at Bowie British 
Car Day. 

Cut out old rear tub floor, too many spot welds to even think about. Ugh. Cut 
new floor from misappropriated (sssh!) road sign.

Flushed everything that can be flushed, no jokes please :). Radiators (I have 2)
heater core, engine block, water pump and...frame. Out came several pounds (no 
kidding) of cotton batting and other assorted rodent friendly material. 
Obviously some sort of nest. In both rails. I'm sure there's still som left. 
Yuck. Came back the next day and noticed there was a dead, somewhat mummified 
mouse in the pile. Nate, we must compare pictures...
So the small mammals theory proves itself true...ha!

Bought a nice 3 drawer toolbox from Sears for 39.99. Now I can pretend I'm being
organized. 

Discovered large order had been sent to wrong address, so still waiting for:
Speeedi-sleeve
Brake shoe springs
Brake adjusters
All engine gaskets
Thermostat
Used fan shroud
1 rear shackle and bolt

Back to work tonight, not sure what I'll be doing.

Cheers

Dave "And the Honda needs a new muffler to pass inspection" B.

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From: slade@sisna.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:50:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Sighting

Sandy wrote...

>Saturday while driving through Everett Wa. (Washington state) I spotted a
>military colored 109 pulling a small military trailer!!  I could not wave as
>I was on the overpass above the vehicle.  This was a fine example, and from
>the appearance I`ll venture a guess that it is privatly owned.
>John Cooper 1969 11a

Sandy, you might have seen Stefani Cushing's '88.  It's painted miliatary
camo, and she's known to drag around a military trailer on occasion.  She
also lives in Everett WA with Gord'n Parrot, local LR guru (who's mother
happens to drive an ex-mil lightweight).

Later,

Michael Slade
'70 109 Station Wagon
Portland, OR
slade@sisna.com

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 10:59:11 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: Re[2]: Brake problems

>>But in my case I'm afraid there is ghost in the machine who decides when
and how much
brakingpower I get. Sometimes I've got 100% and 100 meters ahead I've got zip.

>>Anyone know how to make my ghost listen to me?

Aye, squirt 'is arse out the bleed screw...

I had the same problem on my Honda Accord. It means somehting is wrong with the 
brake sand should be fixed. There is probably air in the lines somewhere. 
Maladjusted brakes are always low until you pump them. Air in the lines is 
sometimes a problem, sometimes not. Check each part of the circuit by clamping 
off the flex hoses one by one until you get solid pedal.
When (if) you get solid pedal, then your best bet is to replace the cylinder at 
that corner, since it is most likely the place where air has entered. Do check 
the flek hoses as well please. on the rear, you will have to determine which 
wheel cylinder it is since both feed on the same flex hose. I would just replace
'em both unless one was new, since it could then be (most likely) eliminated.

 If you don't get solid pedal then check for leaks. Is the fluid level dropping?
If not then its probably the seals in the Master Cylinder, worn out and letting 
the fluid go past. Replace the master cylinder to remedy. I don't advise rebuilt
cylinders, that is what is known as "throwing good money after bad". They will 
never be as good as a new one.

>>Jody driving a S1 1955 SWB in Holland.

Im jealous...

Dave B. 
Arlington VA SIII 88"

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From: "William Dan Terry" <wterry@netpubsintl.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:57:04 +0000
Subject: Barter, sell, buy

I'm interested in changing a few things on La Rana (the frog - NATO 
green with frog eyes - early IIA). This means that there are some 
things I want to get and some things to pass on. Trades, sales and 
purchases are all options.

Have:  mil. tailgate and liftgate (tailgate is missing cotton straps, 
but has cloth tool "bumpers")
Want:  rear door w/o tire mount

Have:  2 mil. fuel tanks (1 1yr old)
Want:  civ. under seat fuel tanks

Also looking for two civ. fuel tank filler  side body "frames". Don't 
know what they're called. The piece attached to the body that the 
filler tube sits in.

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From: "Mr Ian Stuart" <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:20:10 +0000
Subject: Trip around Europe...

As of Saturday, I will be off around Europe - for 3 weeks...

If anyone sees a white 109 with a red line just above the capping-line, on 
the UK plate LCS 210 W - it's me!

The booked bit of my trip is Hull <-> Rotterdam, the rest is "follow the 
bonnet" stuff with a vague plan to drive around the Alps.

If we meet, I'll try to gather some group photos and put them up on my web 
site...

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

Quote of 1996: "A.L.S. is a good example of scottishissityness"

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:08:39 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: I have no life...

Bobeck, David R. wrote:
 
> Flushed everything that can be flushed, no jokes please :). Radiators (I have 2)
> heater core, engine block, water pump and...frame. Out came several pounds (no
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> mouse in the pile. Nate, we must compare pictures...
> So the small mammals theory proves itself true...ha!

> Dave "And the Honda needs a new muffler to pass inspection" B.

You know what they say... "Build a better mouse trap..."

Nate Dunsmore
You all know the rest

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:27:21 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Trip around Europe...

>If anyone sees a white 109 with a red line just above the capping-line, on
>the UK plate LCS 210 W - it's me!

Bit like a travelling jam sandwich eh,Ian?

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: "Mr Ian Stuart" <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:48:48 +0000
Subject: Re: Trip around Europe...

Quoting Mike Rooth, from 25 Jun 96

> >If anyone sees a white 109 with a red line just above the capping-line,
> >on the UK plate LCS 210 W - it's me!
> Bit like a travelling jam sandwich eh,Ian?
Strange you should say that....

Other driver do tend to be more careful around LuCaS than other Landies..

(For those that don't know the in-joke: a jam-sandwich is the nick-name 
for a police vehicle)

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

Quote of 1996: "A.L.S. is a good example of scottishissityness"

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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:04:31 -0700
Subject: OVLR Birthday

Well, it seems that all the 'net resident folks at OVLR's Birthday Party have 
each offered their take on the events....I guess its time for me to enter the 
fray:

Thursday night:  
Drinking in local pub....not what you want to do before an eight hour trip in a 
Rover.

Friday morning (early):
Jeff Meyer (professional Rover photographer and my driving companion) on the 
phone: "hey, Eric..."
"huh?"
"you ready to go soon? I'm leaving my house now"
"huh?"

About an hour later, I remember the conversation: quick shower, industrial size 
mug of coffee...

By 9:30 we were loaded and ready to go.   Wait a minute...  Map? 90wt? Passport? 
 Money (yeah, I brought the Monopoly board)? 

Ok guys, lets go back and try this again.

By 10:30 we were loaded up an ready to go. Wait a minute....  Too much coffee, 
I've got to piss....ah, aren't road trips fun?

After quite an uneventful trip through New York (at least nothing happened that 
I'm going to tell you folks about :) )  we hit the Canadian border.
First stop....obligatory house "o" sin:  the Duty Free.  Couple cases of beer, 
various spirits and random tobacco products later, we were back on our way.
Next stop: Customs.

Citizenship?: U.S. (at least for the time being)

Where are you staying?: Silver Lake (some God forsaken mud hole in the middle of 
nowhere)

Carrying any alcohol?: A couple cases of beer (not nearly enough).

Any tobacco?: Couple cartons of cigarettes (can you say Camel Trophy?)

Any firearms?: No (she said nothing about explosives).

Any other weapons?: No (define "weapon")

How long do you plan to stay?: Couple days (depends how stuck I get and how many 
parts I break)

Do you plan on leaving anything in Canada?: No (aside from whatever falls off 
the Rover and a few million brain cells...)

Carry on.  Eh?

Arrive at the OVLR site to find Dixon, Spenny, Al Richer et al. gathered around 
the "Beverage Conveyance" (beer trailer) doing quite a job of tasting the 
available home brew.
Pitch camp and dusk falls.
Enter into a game of: who can accurately identify arriving vehicle (including 
owner) by engine sound and headlights.  Enter Mike Loidice:  the bagpipes heard 
from 10 miles gave it away.  Spenny promptly jumps up on roof rack and unloads 
all gear onto bonnet.  Mike decides to move Rover.  Spenny's Rover is in the 
way.  Spenny's Rover now has a new dent.  Poetic justice.

Heard around the beverage conveyance later that evening: "Dixon's Rover is the 
only one I've seen that makes me feel good about mine." Or something pretty 
close.

Also heard: "Please use the porta-potty for solid waste only" ....  "Define 
solid waste"

Saturday morning:
Bagpipes, rain, coffee...in that order.  Somebody hand me the tylenol.  
Everybody pitches in to set up an additional awning by the club trailer....rain 
promptly stops.

Light Off-Road:
About half a mile of light green-laning and then a mother of a mud bog.  About 
half the convoy made it through (only two without outside assistance.... 
S****is" when it was deicded to return for lunch.  

Light-to-Medium Off road:
Sufficiently fortified by a hearty, delicius, gourmet lunch (yes, I want to get 
fed next year) we set off again.  This time, the convoy set off over about ten 
miles of some great trails.  All quite challenging but not so much that damage 
was done (although my Rover now sounds like a hot rod).  There are, however, 
quite a few angry beavers.  The two highlights were the beaver dam climb and the 
deep water crossing.  Mike Loidice takes the cake for stalling in the middle of 
the deep water, re-starting after a couple minutes, and climbing up the opposite 
bank.  Open rear door and watch a flood of water come out!  Not So Desperate 
(any more) Dale also had a bit to show when he parks his diesel in the middle of 
the water crossing....just waiting he says.
Heard after the off-road: "I though I signed up for the light off-road"
Dixon's response: "that was the light off-road"

Saturday Evening:
Swim in the lake, shower (translation: feel human again) fix Russ' timing (oh, 
the points are supposed to be in contact with the cam all the time?)  Watch 
Spenny tackle a broken half shaft. Dinner of a great roast, home fries and 
salad.  Birthday cake to boot.  Argument about the merits of Scotch over Irish 
whiskey....call in a peacekeeping force.  Banjo and guitar music around the 
fire.  The "Land Rover Blues".  Marathon bout of "lets see how much Monty Python 
we can quote".  Hideous rendition of "I'm a Lumberjack". Actually, is it ever 
any good?  Pointing out the constellations.  Merits of P.C. vs. Macs...call in a 
peacekeeping force, again.  What's you perfect Land Rover (Dixon: one that runs) 
 Run out of wood, burn Al Richer's walnut (gasp!) dash.  Various comments about 
farm animals and not-present members....something that boggles the imagination 
(or is that fills with urge to wretch)  Various technical tips.  Heckle 
no-so-desparate-any-more-Dale....in his tent.  Enjoy the company of a great 
group of Rover folks.

Sunday Morning:
Repeat of Saturday morning sans rain.  After breakfast, the annual auction was 
held.  Spenny now has an outstanding warrant in three provinces for child labor 
offenses. That Land Rover model was for children only, not for you to find a kid 
to bid on your behalf.  Heard afterwards:  "I can't believe I bought this....I 
don't even own a Series Three! Oh well, its only Canadian money"

Afterwards, a few die hards were out back to tackle the mud hole that had 
troubled us so much on Saturday.  Well, my winch works..that's all I can say 
about that.  Word of advice:  DO NOT play out all your winch cable on a 101FC.  
Second word of advice:  Lock your center diff before hand.  After finally 
winching my way through and climbing the opposite bank I hear a voice: "you 
know, those branches are a little low"  There's Jeff, who had riden the roof 
rack during the whole ride.  Those leaves look pretty good impaled in your 
camera like that, Jeff.

Finally, time to head home.  Where best to wash off the Rover than the local 
boat launch ramp....unless you get stuck.

All in all, a great time was had by all.  The comraderie and good nature of this 
event is hard to top.  The site is superb, food is excellent and best of all.  
Everyone is accepted for who they are and what they drive...

See you at the Downeast and Virginia and next year!

Eric
_______________________________________________________________________
OVERLAND MOTORS...."EXPEDITION SPECIALISTS"	    1075 Washington St.
Land Rover - Range Rover - Discovery - Defender	    Peekskill, NY 10566 USA
http://www.OverlandMotors.com  Fax: (914) 734-4352  Phone: (914) 734-4333
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:58:41 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: A tale from long ago...

Hi all,

Sunday I had the whole family out for a drive over to a horse farm where my daughter's 
pony is being bred for a visit.  Delightful trip. The owner of the farm is an eclectic 
woman with a fascinating past.  Upon seeing the blue brick she commented:
HW (horse woman): "Wow! haven't seen one of these around here for years!  Ya know, you 
can't get 'em here anymore except for some tricked up version called a "Destroyer" or 
something like that.  Gotta go to Europe to find the functional work ones."

(Quite impressive knowledge for a woman who drives a 15 year old Dodge pickup!)

She went on to say:

HW: "Yea, my husband had one of these in Africa back in the Sixties..." (later 
referenced to the Peace Corps)
"There was this river crossing they'd have to drive over on occasion.  Twenty to thirty 
feet across and ten to fifteen feet to the river below.  The bridge consisted of two 
rough cut boards to drive on.  Only problem was, it was fairly rickety to walk across, 
so they'd send one person across, use leather straps to hold the steering wheel 
straight, and send the rover across by itself in case the bridge broke.  Then the other 
person'd walk across.  Quite exciting really."

(Camel trophy mid 60's style?):)

Next time we visit I've gotta ask if she has a picture.

Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

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From: LilRed90@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:35:26 -0400
Subject: Re: ? Securing Equipment to D90's 

I also have run into the same problem with installing equiptment onto my D90.
 For starters, I have put on an ARB bumper in place of the factory bumper so
that I could install a larger winch than the Warn 8000.  This bumper also
allows me bolt the 60" Hi-Lift (which I recommend considering the coil sprung
wheel travel, esp. if you add the Old Man Emu suspension) to the top of the
brush gaurd, and I placed my CB antennae onto the bumper.  By placing the
antennae in the front of the vehicle, you get more range from the large
surface off the hood since the top is cloth.  I would not place the antennae
to the rear or side since it may decrease your ability to move around in very
tight corners,  believe me from experience that even 1/2 inch may mean
difference between body damage and safe travel.  I would connect your fire
extinguisher to the roll bar with large hose clamps since they are strong
enough to hold the weight of the extinguisher during hard bumps.  I can also
give you the number for a friend that makes can carriers/shovel-axe carriers
that are custom made to attach the spare tire.  E-Mail if you have any
further questions or would like more information on the carrier.  As far as
essential equiptment, you are definitely on the right trail (no pun
intended).  Most important is the jack with necessary eequiptment for jacking
and using it as a hand winch.  Second, essential tools to fix problems on the
trail, and lastly a tow strap.

Good luck and happy rovering.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:37:04 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Dormobiles and Carawagons

All who are interested in Land-Rover camper conversions:

Lloyd Allison's AWD/4WD magazine Web site has a page covering 4x4 campers,
including a Dormobile (the one pictured is a two-door--Tudor-mobile?--such
as TeriAnn is building and therefore, if TeriAnn is right about this, not
actually a Martin Walters Dormobile but a Land-Rover which has been
retrofitted with Dormobile bits), a Carawagon (interestingly, on a 110 which
suggests more recent availability), and a mini-motorhome-type conversion on
a Land-Rover Series IIB(?) 110FC (have also seen such conversions pictured
on Pinzgauer 6x6s).  Only other 4x4 camper pictured on Lloyd's page is a VW
Vanagon-based camper.

The pictured Carawagon is pretty sleek looking (well, for a Land-Rover) in
comparison with the Dormobile top and with other Carawagon hardware I've
seen in photos.  I have yet to personally see a pop-top Carawagon in
person--are there any in the States?  Must be.

Cheers,

Granville "Granny" Pool
Redwood Valley, CA USA
Series III 88 (the Snark)

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From: Land_Rovers@learnlink.emory.edu (Sean P. Murphy)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:43:52 -0400
Subject: Re: ? Securing Equipment to D90's 

kelvinc@terrestrial.com,Internet writes:
> I would like some advice about securing the following items to my D90
> (its a
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> pieces needed:
>       48 inch high lift jack,

I have a 60" model mounted inside behind the rear seat.  I don't have a
bumper sufficient to hold it and I'm not sure how I feel about
externally mounting a jack which needs to keep it's lubrication.  <GRIN>

>   CB unit antenna,

Get a long fiberglass-coated one and mount it from one of the lugs on
your spare tire.  It will sit between the top and your tire when the
door is closed and will bump the top or the tire for protection, but
the fiberglass will cause damage to neither.

>   Fire extinguisher,

I have mine on the roll bar nearest the door, mounted with big hose
clamps.  It is reachable from the passenger compartment as well as
outside the vehicle.

>  handle for the passenger to hang onto while four wheeling,

Screw 'em.  <GRIN>  They can't hold onto all the roll cage pieces?

>  5 gallon gas cans (are there any larger size gas tanks for the D90?).

Haven't seen a good spot for these, although I have one.

> Recommendations (in your opinion)for required take along tools when 4
> wheeling.

Other than what you have:  A recovery strap, Warn receiver shackle,
tools, duct tape (that's a tool), fuses (including one of the big 60A
engine fuses), grease, a spare set of wheel bearings ($20), ATF, gear
oil, engine oil, food and water.  That's all I can think of at the
moment.

> I have heard by many other D90 owners tht the airconditioner is
> marginal at
> best -- has any tried to swap in a different manufacturer?   

I've never used mine for anything but the electric fan.  Disconnect the
compressor wire and you can get extra cooling while offroad.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:09:18 -0700
From: Robert Bell <tradica@netzone.com>
Subject: Arizona People? and how to remove stickers           ***

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *

After years of fascination, I got my first Rover.  
           93 D90 - yellow.
Just looking to see if any Arizona people are on the list.
Also if you know of any solvent or anything that will remove stickers with
minimal or hopefully no damage to paint, I would most appreciate it.
thanx
Robert Bell

tradica@netzone.com
http://www.tradica.com/

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * 

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:26:59 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: Arizona People? and how to remove stickers           ***

Robert Bell wrote:
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> After years of fascination, I got my first Rover.
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> Also if you know of any solvent or anything that will remove stickers with
> minimal or hopefully no damage to paint, I would most appreciate it.

Congrats on the D90.  For stickers, there's all sorts of stuff but I use WD40, let it 
set for a while then remove the pieces.  Nice thing about WD40 is that it's gentle on 
the paint.

Nate Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:50:14 -0400
From: Rob MacCormick <Rob_MacCormick@Harvard.Edu>
Subject: operating temperatures

What's an appropriate range in temperature for the coolant to be? What's the
effect of changing the location of the temperature sensor? Where is the
coolant temperature measured? If starting from scratch, where should the
coolant temperature be measured? 
Rob MacCormick
Concord, MA

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From: Gregspitz@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:14:10 -0400
Subject: d110 price

 I have a 93 D110 available to buy...has everything...ARB bumper ,Warn 8000
winch 2 gas tanks,2 spare tires, air cond.,9 seater with belts with 26K miles
on it ..
Good Price..?? $38,500??

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From: Gregspitz@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:14:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Arizona People? and how to remove stickers ***

use a hair dryer and peel off gently

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:43:46 -0500
From: doncastr@ns.acadiacom.net (Peter C. Doncaster)
Subject: Re: Arizona People? and how to remove stickers           ***

>Also if you know of any solvent or anything that will remove stickers with
>minimal or hopefully no damage to paint, I would most appreciate it.
>thanx
>Robert Bell

Dont know how it will affect the paint, but I use Mineral Spirits to remove
the adhesive glooey stuff. It works great! Mostly use it on things made of
plastic.

Peter Doncaster
'64 IIA 88 SW
New Orleans, USA
doncastr@acadiacom.net

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:02:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Arizona People? and how to remove stickers ***

As regards Rover folks in Arizona, try the LROA directory (better yet, join!)
and ask the Cuevas brothers at Rovers West in Tucson. 
As regards the stickers, a bud of mine in the body shop biz uses a solvent
that smells just like lighter fluid (zippo kind, not charcoal) Yiou might try
that. Cheers!!
John Dillingham, Woodstock, GA 
73 s3 SWB  (770)926-8314
72 s3 SWB rusted parts truck, mostly picked over
66 s2a SWB soft top "Red Rover" being minded for friend/customer 
Vintage Rover Service
"Since 1994, over dozen satisfied customers!"

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:10:01 -0400
Subject: Re: d110 price

The price gregspitz found on the 93 d110 is well within the parameters here
in metro Atlanta. 'specially with all the stuff on it. Will these trucks
never begin to really depreciate? or is it a weak dollar? Regards!!
John Dillingham, Woodstock, GA 
73 s3 SWB  (770)926-8314
72 s3 SWB rusted parts truck, mostly picked over
66 s2a SWB soft top "Red Rover" being minded for friend/customer 
Vintage Rover Service
"Since 1994, over dozen satisfied customers!"

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:54:20 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: Stickers

If you really want to go hi tech. 3M makes a product called adhesive
remover. It will not harm paint or anything, works great, kinda costly for
one time use on a few stickers, but you know it can't hurt the paint.
See ya!

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More
        Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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From: SPYDERS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:50:37 -0400
Subject: FL to NM

Hello all,

I'm off to (northern) New Mexico for 5-ish weeks and was wondering if anyone
knew who to contact in that state re: trails and permits (if necessary) to
drive on them. I'll be solo in the LR from South Florida to New Mexico and
*hope* to sneak out of town without alerting the Lucas gremlin. I've heard
they lurk under freeway overpasses and drop onto the roofs of LRs passing
beneath... 

Anyone have any suggestions on good campsites/trails in northern NM?

Any info much appreciated. Either post or e-mail.

Thanks,
pat "just-paint-over-stickers" parsons.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:35:36 -0700
From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: New Baby; Infant Seat In SIIA?

At 08:23 PM 6/24/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Here's a solution:
>Why not keep the 109, and get the Range Rover AS WELL.

Err, well, there's this small matter of filthy lucre.  I am very clean in
that respect.

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:35:40 -0700
From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: wanted 109 3door

At 05:54 AM 6/25/96 -0700, you wrote:
>I know its just symantics, but a Land Rover Dormobile is a very limited
>edition camper based upon a 109 five door made by Martin Walters.  A two
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>But even if you use all the standard Dormobile parts its still not a
>Dormobile.
Well, it is not just semantics.  There is genuine, and there is non-genuine,
and that is that.  For example you can convert any 289 Hi-Po 1965 Mustang
coupe into a Shelby clone with some readily available bolt-on parts and a
paint job.  It will be for all purposes identical to a factory Shelby.  But
it will not be a Shelby.  Same with Dormobiles.

Perhaps the word "Dormobile" is becoming like "scotch tape" or "J**P", a
generic term.  That would be too bad.

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:17:11 -0400
Subject: Re: d110 price

Greg:

     There is a 110 for sale here at the local dealer, price unknown but I'd
be willing to bet its more than 38k I will check and let you know.  The 110
here has 16k miles on it
Rgds
Steve Bradke

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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:42:02 -0400
From: Richard Ruffer <rruffer@interserv.com>
Subject: Re: Securing Equipment to D90's 

Kelvin Crezee wrote:
> I would like some advice about securing the following items to my D90: 48 inch high lift jack,  CB unit antenna,  Fire extinguisher, handle for the passenger to hang onto 
while four wheeling, 5 gallon gas cans (are there any larger size gas tanks for the 
D90?).

I attached my hi-lift behind the front seats. It rests on the wheel wells parallel to 
the dash. I bought two nylon web straps from a hiking store to attach the jack to the 
diagonal roll bar pieces that go from the side walls to the floor so that the jack 
won't roll around off-road. I attached my CB antenna on the left side behind the rear 
wheel. I used a mount designed for a flat verticle surface. Had to drill through the 
fender to put it in :-0 It doesn't stick out any further than the wheel arches, so I 
don't loose any noticeable clearance. I ran the cable up the chasis to the fire wall and 
through a rubber plug located under the floor mat to the left of the fuse box. I have a 
5' fiberglass antenna. Reception seems fine. I mounted my fire extinguisher (using the 
bracket that came with it) to the back of the cubby box. The box is made of wood, and 1" 
wood screws worked well with the extinguisher mounted horizontally. The extinguisher is 
easily accessible to both front seats. I don't have a back seat, so I don't have to 
worry about it getting kicked. No thoughts as to passenger handle and gas cans. There 
was a line on the coil sprung list once about installing the U.K. gas tank that mounts 
under the passenger seat. It sounded like a big pain, but someone may have kept the 
postings. Good Luck.

Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
rruffer@interserv.com
'94 D90 #634

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From: DMF55@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:26:21 -0400
Subject: Re: FL to NM

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In a message dated 96-06-25 19:50:42 EDT, you write:

<< I'm off to (northern) New Mexico for 5-ish weeks and was wondering if
anyone
 knew who to contact in that state re: trails and permits (if necessary) to
 drive on them >>

Northern New Mexico is a wonderful place for traveling.  Beautiful forests
and stunning scenery.  I'm most familiar with areas around Santa Fe, but plan
to visit Taos later this summer.  Attached is a file downloaded from the
Internet (GORP site) on the Carson Nat'l Forest, listing activities and phone
numbers.  I called today and like all Forest Service offices, they are most
helpful and will send lots of information to you for just a phone call.

You should know that as of now the situation regarding fire danger is quite
severe.  While they have not apparently closed any areas as of today, no open
fires or even bar-b-q style cooking is allowed, only propane.  Rain will
help, but there are severe problems in regards to this throughout the high
desert all the way into Colorado.

Also available are topographic maps in local bookstores of Santa Fe.  This
area, by the way, is covered by the Santa Fe Nat'l Forest offices, rather
than the Carson offices described in the attached file.  

Particularly beautiful is the area between Chama and the Cumbres Pass of
Colorado. Stunning mountain and meadow views.  There's a narrow gauge
railroad that people ride in the area.  Also available is plenty of river
running along the wild and scenic portion of the Rio Grande.  Lots of
backroads and jeep trails are available for your Rovering pleasure.

If you find anything of special interest, please pass on for my later trip
and future ventures.

Enjoy!!!

DMF55@AOL.COM

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<b>Forest Service Building<br>
P.O. Box 558/208 Cruz Alta Road<br>
Taos, New Mexico  87571<br>
(505) 758-6200
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Named for Kit Carson, noted frontier scout, the Carson National Forest of=
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spectacular mountain scenery in the West including the Sangre de Cristo M=
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<A HREF=3D"../US_Wilderness_Area/nm_pecos.htm">Pecos</a> Wilderness, and =
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ndian =

cultures that flourished in the shadows of these somber heights were foll=
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than three centuries ago.<P>
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headquarters at Taos from where he oversees the activities of seven Distr=
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The high, cool country of the Carson National Forest is, geologically spe=
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San Juan and Sangre de Cristo Ranges of Colorado.<P>
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West of Tres Piedras is high plateau land from 8,000 to nearly 11,000 fee=
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virgin spruce-fir forests.  Far to the west the isolated Jicarilla Distri=
ct occupies a lonely land of high mesas =

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opportunities in any season.  The magnificent mountain scenery and cool s=
ummer temperatures lure =

vacationers to enjoy the peace and quiet, for fishing, hunting, camping a=
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include skiing, snowshoeing and snowmobiling.<P>
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Travel is restricted to foot or horseback.  No mechanized equipment is al=
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antelope, black bear, mountain lion, and bighorn sheep.  There are also m=
any species of smaller animals =

and songbirds.  Wildflowers abound.  Forest personnel work closely with t=
he State Game and Fish =

Department to provide the best wildlife habitat possible.<P>
<P>
The Carson has 400 miles of sparkling clean mountain streams and many lak=
es that offer outstanding =

trout fishing.  There are rainbow, eastern brook, German brown and cutthr=
oat trout.  Among the more =

popular fishing streams are the La Junta, Santa Barbara, El Rito, Rio Pue=
blo, Rio Hondo, Red River, Rio =

San Antonio and Rio Grande.  Better known lakes include Hopewell, Cabrest=
o, Trout, Canjilon and =

Lagunitas, all accessible by road.  The Wildernesses hold several more.  =
Many are stocked with native =

trout by the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish.<P>
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Opportunities abound for hiking, horseback riding, mountain bikinq, and 4=
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<P>
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winter.<P>
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Valley, Red River and Sipapu Ski Areas.  All are located within the fores=
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Rio Costilla Ski Areas are located on nearby private lands.<P>
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Tres Piedras to El Rito or Tierra Amarilla; and State 76 to Penasco and T=
ruchas.<P>
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Canjilon Ranger District<br>
P.O. Box 488<br>
Canjilon, NM  87515<br>
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El Rito Ranger District<br>
P.O. Box 56<br>
El Rito, NM  87530<br>
(505) 581-4554
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Jicarilla Ranger District<br>
Gobernador Route<br>
Blanco, NM  87412<br>
(505) 326-2036
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P.O. Box 68<br>
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(505) 587-2255
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Tres Piedras Ranger District<br>
PO. Box 728<br>
Tres Piedras, NM  87577<br>
(505) 758-8678
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Questa Ranger District<br>
P.O. Box 110<br>
Questa, NM  87556<br>
(505) 586-0520
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From: Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-muenchen.de
Subject: Re: Helloooo out there?
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:54:19 +0200 (METDST)

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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:33:38 GMT
From: Daniel McDonough <mcdonoug@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Caravan to '96 National Rally from NM, AZ, TX (and others)

I got myself signed up for the National Rally in Crested Butte and thought
it would be nice to see how many Rovers from the SW we can get together.

I live in Albuquerque and thought anyone from down south (El Paso, Las Cruces,
Tucson, West Texas, etc) could join up here. Then we head north and pick up
Santa Fe, Los Alamos etc. Are there any interested parties out there?

If there is a caravan already planned, let me know so I can join in.

Daniel McDonough

'95 D-90 Ragtop
'95 D-90 SW

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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:02:44 +0200
From: jody@cyberlab.nl (Jody Scharrenborg)
Subject: Re: Arizona People? and how to remove stickers           ***

>Also if you know of any solvent or anything that will remove stickers with
>minimal or hopefully no damage to paint, I would most appreciate it.
I removed some stickers and ugly modernish striping by heating them up a
bit with a "hairdryer/hot air gun for paint removal" (don't know the right
name for this tool). Be carefull not to overheat them. The plastic should
just be soft and it will come off easy.

greetings
Jody
driving a S1 1955 SWB in Holland.

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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:49:33 +0400
From: Alex Danza <danza@ropnet.cronyx.ru>
Subject: Manuals and service books

Dear Bill,

My name is Alex and I read your letter about manuals and microfiches.
My friends opened a car service in Moscow, Russia and they will be servicing
only Land Rovers and RRs. They used to work in the company AES Triplex that
used to be a Land Rover dealer and from that time they still have some books
bunow they are outdated.
Will you please advise where can we get microfishes  on Land Rover from 1994>,
New Range Rover, RR Classic, Export Price list, and the parts manuals.
I will really appreciate your help.

Best Regards,

Alex Danza

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