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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 06:01:24 -0700
From: Jon Nyhus <bmc@syspac.com>
Subject: Re: Range Rover overheating/generic 3.9L water pump

At 06:47 PM 6/22/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Has anyone experienced an intermittent overheating problem with a 3.9L. I've
>checked the thermostat, the radiator flow, upper & lower radiator hoses, and
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>While on the subject of cooling systems, does anyone have a generic water
>pump, or another inexpensive solution to water pump failure.
It sounds like your problem might be water pump related with the overheating
problem.  If you live in a large city you can find someone ot rebuild the
water pump with new seals and bearings.  The overheating I think you will
find will go away after replacing the water puimp.  I speculate that air is
building up inside the block because the water pump is permitting air to
seep into a closed system.  

Regards,   Jon
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British Motor Classics, Ltd.,  
8828 N. Black Canyon Hwy #1
Phoenix,  AZ  85051  USA
602.995.2028     FAX 602.995.1909     
E-Mail  bmc@syspac.com  
British auto restoration for all marques,
Car sales & locating service, Spares sales

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 09:13:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Series IIA Parts Catalog (ue)

An inquiry on parts manuals for a IIA:
>1. Are there different catalogues out there, or only one? (This is a IIA)

LRO Shop lists a IIA parts manual (their #304) which is LR #RTC9840 (April
1987). This covers IIA from '61-'72, but does not cover II. It shows the
usage and part numbers circa '87. Some parts have changed over the years and
some are listed simply as NLA (no longer available). LRO Shop also lists a
II/IIA parts manual (their #303) which appears to be LR #605957 (December
1968). This covers both II and IIA through vehicle suffix "F" only. Some of
the part numbers are now obsolete. A third possiblity for a II or early IIA
is a reprint by Hydro-E-Lectric (800-448-6244) of LR #4656 (July 1964). This
covers only II and early IIA.

LR service parts for a particular application have new numbers due to a new
part replacing an old part, and LR also changed numbering schemes several
times due to mergers, etc.

Is there a sub-cult for collectors of LR manuals?

David Cockey
Rochester, MI

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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:18:30 -0400
Subject: ? coil related problem

Fred Ellsworth asked about faulty running and if that could be a bad coil. My
suggestion would be to first clean up the coil itself. I've found that on
'Nicky', oil vapour coming from the rocker cover breather cap (not connected
to carb or manifold) is blown back towards the bulkhead and covers everything
with a very fine, almost visibly undetectable mist. When moisture is
introduced to this surface, it is adsorbed, and can cause misfiring. Simply
cleaning it up might solve the problem. One night mine was so bad in the
rain, that after limping home, I stood there gawking at what I saw- there was
some kind of bluish plasma running around and about the  plug/coil wires.
Hollywood special effects could not have done better! It was beautiful, but I
wiped everything up and applied a silicon spray to it all (which now doesn't
look too nice), and all has been well. Wiping off the bottom of the coil at
the connections has become a routine maintenence procedure, as well.
see 'ya at Owl's Head- I'll be in the green LR...
see 'ya on the old road...
Jim '61 LR 88" SW  w/ 16's, OD 1 Bbl weber (econobox?)  "Nicky"
 LR...quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised!  

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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 07:26:10 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: RE: Billing LR meet

At 11:41 AM 6/23/96 +0100, C.J.Short@ste0418.wins.icl.co.uk wrote:

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 21 lines)]
>         bits and pieces for sale. A word of advice though get there early.
>                        Maybe see you there.  Chris
>         Series III SWB (Winifred)

Chris, Thnks for the info, its what I was hoping for when I noticed my
frequent flyer miles had piled up.  My camp site info says Thurs . Fri.,
and Sat nights.  So I will get there Thursday

Any ideas about when they open Thursday?

I'm going to be hanging out in London the first part of the week.

Any thoughts as to the best way to get from London to Billing via public
transport??

Thanks!

TeriAnn

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com   <- NOTE NEW ADDRESS

Celebrating my tenth year on Usenet/Internet

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From: C.J.Short@ste0418.wins.icl.co.uk
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 16:38:04 +0100
Subject: RE(2): Billing LR meet

         Teri, the easiest way to get there will be to catch a train from 
         Euston to Northampton and then catch a bus to Billing Aquadrome of 
         which there should be plenty. I`m affraid I haven`t got the time 
         tables but a phone call to Britsh Rail should be able to help, and 
         the buses in Northampton run fairly frequent. As for when to 
         arrive, I`ve never been there on a Thrusday but would imagine that 
         mid afternoon you will find people starting to arrive. Hope this 
         helps, I will only be going on the Saturday this year due to work 
         commitments, but you never know I might see you there, I`ll be 
         driving Winifred my SIII swb with the purple front end.     
         
                                  Chris

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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 09:46:11 -0700
From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net>
Subject: UniMog For Sale

I saw an ad in the local (Los Angeles) Truck Trader for a 1960's
Mercedes-Benz UniMOg for sale at $4,800.  The photo shows a hardtop UniMog
and gives a Sacramento phone number, 916 333 1419.

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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:51:30 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: L-R restoration

So - is there anybody who is interested or is doing or has done a 
restoration of her or his L-R? Not a frame-over or an engine swap, but an 
effort to bring the car back to the original as close as possible? Or does 
anybody know of a good group on the net dedicated to car restoration?

Please mail me directly!

Thanks in advance
Peter Hirsch
Vienna, Austria
Peter.Hirsch@atnet.co.at

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From: LRRobDog@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:05:40 -0400
Subject: help

Help I need to resubscribe
LR Rob Dog @AOL.com

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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:31:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: Electric Fuel Pump

Does anyone out there know about a fuel pump made by Harting.  It is is a 
Pu 14.1111-1161 I think.  The problem is that the points have burned and 
it now requires a good hit to make the pump work.  I have been driving 
the past week with my son hitting the firewall with a pair of pliers to 
get the thing to work.  I once had this happen in my first Land Rover up 
in the Rockie Mountains and I rigged up a running shoe and a string.  I 
used the rubber sole like a spring and let the shoe hit the pump each 
time it quit.  This got me home over 400 miles, but I don't recommend it 
:-)   Does anyone have a good source of electric fuel pumps or a "good 
one" to sell?  By the way, I finished installing my 79 GMC rear heater 
from an STX Rally Van, and I think it is wonderful.  It fits on the rear 
wheel arch and it has perhaps three times the output of the Land Rover 
heater.  I am sure anyone could get one in a wrecking yard for under $50 
with the harness and three speed fan switch which can be mounted on the 
dash. I wish I had had this in last winter when we set the all time 
record for average lows for Manitoba. Does anyone have a new Weber or 
Zenith carb, or near new they want to sell.  I see I can get one for 54 
pounds for Webber and 56 for Zenith from Paddock Motors in the U.K.  Has 
anyone imported from them?  Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 22:43:17 GMT
From: Andy Purser <apurs@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Ser.III 88" 

Hello,
     I'm considering selling my 1973 Ser. III 88". I have the original hard
top with rear door, complete headliner, padding, rear seats, etc. I also
have a pickup cab which is currently mounted. A rear crossmember w/18" ext.
which needs to be welded on. Everything else is complete, daily driver. Any
offers over $5000.00, receipts for everything. LR is in North Carolina.
Thanks
Andy Purser
apurs@worldnet.att.net

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From: Daryl Webb <dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Busted Salisbury differential
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:22:23 +0930 (CST)

Jens Vesterdahl writes:
> SO - I have on my hands a broken Salisbury differential.

Jens, are you *sure* its a busted diff?  Did you check the axle flanges 
and splines?  Its not uncommon for the splines to strip in the flanges.

cheers and best of luck

-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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From: John Putnam <jdputnam@pacifier.com>
Subject: Weber 2 Barrel
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:56:37 -0700

Greeting All,

Good to have the list back in operation again.  Now down to business.  =
I'm about to rebuil the carberator on my '70 SIIa, It is a Weber 2 =
barrel.  Does anyone out there have a good idea on what jets and =
emolsion tubes I should be using to get that mistical 14 to 1 ratio (I =
think those are the right numbers).  I live at sea level and rarely get =
above 4,000 feet.

Thanks in advance
John Putnam
'70 SIIa SWB
Beaverton, OR

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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 04:35:02 -0700
From: Paul Oxley <circ@aztec.co.za>
Subject: Re: Military vehicles mailing list.

RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM wrote:
> I don't know if anyone would be interested, but a mailing list for
> ex-military vehicles has been setup. If you're interested eMail to
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> Ralph,
> 101 FC.

Sure I'm interested (are'nt ALL old Landy's ex-mil?). I've got a '72 IIA 
(some people refer to it as a IIB but, of course, this designation 
actually belongs to the Forward Control, because it is a typical British 
Leyland combo of late model IIA and III bits) - see a photo of it in the 
article on Mabibi (a remote beach on the Northern Kwa_Zulu Natal coast 
just south of Mozambique) in the articles section of my site: 
http://www.adventures.co.za.

Regards

Paul Oxley

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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 04:48:16 -0700
From: Paul Oxley <circ@aztec.co.za>
Subject: Re: Waving - blame LRNA?

Jeff & Laura Kessler wrote:
> >From reading the digest it appears that more Series LRs are being waved to
> by the drivers of newer coil sprung LRs.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 21 lines)]
> 1988 Range Rover
> Newport NH USA   603-863-7883

Hi all,

Yup, this about parallels my experiences. New (yuppie puppie) Disco and 
Defender HiLine owners sometimes have to be reminded of their proud 
ancestry. I had the occassion a couple of months ago to try the closest 
LR dealer (Sandton LR) for parts for my IIA; a very snooty salesman 
informed me that they "...only stock spares for Rangies, Discos and 
occassionally Defender HiLines." It took an hour long tongue lashing on 
respect for elders (my Landy, not me), proud heritage, etc to restore the 
required atmosphere of awe.

Ah well!

Regards
Paul Oxley

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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:40:13 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Re: Weber 2 Barrel

John,

>Good to have the list back in operation again.  Now down to business.  =
>I'm about to rebuil the carberator on my '70 SIIa, It is a Weber 2 =
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>think those are the right numbers).  I live at sea level and rarely get =
>above 4,000 feet.

Try sending your question to Steve Hedke at British Pacific (parts supplier
in Burbank, CA); e-mail address:  <BRITPAC@aol.com>  Britpac also sells the
rebuild kits for those carbs.

If you don't get the answer you are looking for, try Bob Bernard
<bobnsueb@mailserv.maxinet.com> (he's running a Weber 2-bbl).

Also, did you know that there is a West Coast Land-Rover mailing list?  It
has several Portland area LROs on it already (Michael Slade, Loren
Stelzenmueller, and a couple others plus some wannabes).  If you're
interested, e-mail to Ben Smith at <bens@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us> and just
ask to be put on the list (not completely automated).

Cheers,

Granville "Granny" Pool
Redwood Valley, CA USA
'73 SIII 88 (the Snark)

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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:40:13 -0600
From: Mage <mage@cia.com>
Subject: Engine swaps

Anyone have an opinion on what is the best engine to swap into a 
'74 Series III?  My current 2.25 is running OK, but I wouldn't mind a 
bit more power so that highway speeds are not so painfull.  I find that 
90km/hr is about the best I can do.  Is that normal?  Basically my goal 
is to have my Landie be a daily driver that can travel comfortably (for 
the Landie, not me) in the 0 - 110 km/hr range.  Any suggestions are 
appreciated.

Rick Robinson
'74 Series III
Beautiful British Green

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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:45:49 -0700
From: kelvinc@terrestrial.com (Kelvin Crezee)
Subject: The Digest

I haven't had anything for over a month and this was like manna from heaven
-- just to feel connected again!  Thanks so much.  However, since this is
packaged differently and with several different letter dates on the save
package I assume this means all is not well yet at the Major. Is this true?
Is the deamon still at work? I sure hope to see you again tomorrow!
Kelvin Crezee

kelvinc@terrestrial.com

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Daves Mot - the triumphant failure............
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 8:43:20 BST

> 'I've got to fail it on the missing seatbelt and the fuel filter - run it
> back in next week with those done and I'll give you a ticket' - 'it's a bit
> of a trek, I live miles away' - 'ok, give the failure sheet to your mate and
> if he assures me you've done the work that'll be fine'  

Just hope there are no MoT inspectors reading this, and they track you down!
:-)

I had a garage blanket-fail my lights (cos they didn't know how to work them)
and that was a SIII!

Richard
(ex-Gurkha SIII FFR 109 retrieved from the fens AND WORKING!!)

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Military vehicles mailing list.
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 8:59:29 BST

> RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM wrote:

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
> Sure I'm interested (are'nt ALL old Landy's ex-mil?). I've got a '72 IIA 
> (some people refer to it as a IIB but, of course, this designation 

Sorry, missed the original posting, what is the email address, again?

Richard
(ex-gurkha SIII 3/4 FFR, but lusting after getting a 101 FC when I can
afford it!)

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Electrical Problems finally solved
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 9:24:59 BST

(touch aluminium)

About 10 days ago, I took the truck upto Cambridge (for a long weekend seeing
Uni. friends,etc). The problems hadn't been
solved completely. The change of distributor had made no difference
(therefore cabling and sparks?). Thought I could risk the trip, but it decided
it didn't like the M11. Had to be towed to Cambridge - so I arrived at
Formal Hall in time for the trifle  (a trifle too late??)

Then took it to a specialist in the area (Wicken 4x4) who replaced my
ht electrics with the civvie equiv. I also asked them to finish wiring my
Kenlowe fan (half fitted at this point). Collected it this weekend, and the
engine runs the best it ever has done, with the exception of a completely
cold start - where it tends to cut out after a second or so. Restarted once
or twice, and I'm fine.  (could be my bad starting habits re. accel. and
choke - gleaned from the previously bad electrics!)

I have the fan Kenlowe recommended (12" IIRC), but find I'm running warm.
Sure, I'd expect to be running warmer than previously, but coming down the
M11 was just under the red line - on the red line when giving it a bit of
stick whilst overtaking. This is even with the fan on over-ride - ie.
the fan and thermostat work, but cooling is not sufficient in this sort
of situation. Is this to be expected? They claim that passive cooling is
sufficient at 20mph  - is this a case of wind speed increases linearly 
(and hence cooling) whilst engine temperature doesn't?
I'm checking things tonight - a fan wired back to front does fit the symptoms.
If not, I guess a larger set of fan blades is in order?

Oh, and something in the region of the tranny is leaking oil more than usual.
Heat expansion of the oil?  How easy is it to replace the gaskets without
taking it out?
I'm thinking of a winter project of replacing the gearboxes, so would prefer
to wait 'til then...

Going to Scotland on Friday/Saturday! Longest haul and largest load I've
ever done (not quite upto 3/4 ton though).

Richard
(ex-Gurkha SIII FFR 109)

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From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM
Date: 24 Jun 96 05:37:16 EDT
Subject: Re: Re: Daves Mot - the triumphant failure............

Richard,

You say your Landie is now working, what was the problem in the end. I've 
fiddled around extensivly with mine and it is a lot better, but I still 
get faint traces of the problem.

Regards,

Ralph.

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From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM
Date: 24 Jun 96 05:37:22 EDT
Subject: Re: Re: Military vehicles mailing list.

Richard,

the address for the military vehicles mailing list is 
gerry@login.dknet.dk, ignore my previous message asking what you've done 
to your Landie, I just read your explaination. (You may get this one 
first as I'm sending it direct mail.) I would try and control your 
desires for a 101, it's an incurable deteriorating condition. If you feel 
the condition has already gone too far then you could yoin our support 
group (the 101 mailing list) where you can discuss this terrible 
affliction with fellow sufferers, eMail me if you're interested.

Regards,

Ralph

101 FC.

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Re: Military vehicles mailing list.
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 10:45:48 BST

> the address for the military vehicles mailing list is 
> gerry@login.dknet.dk, ignore my previous message asking what you've done 
> to your Landie, I just read your explaination. (You may get this one 

The *original* problem would appear to be bad leads/sparks, and the points
which had drifted.  The garage that civilianised the ht side of things seem
to think the cables often go. I'd already asked them to civilianise it, but
they told me that mil. spark plugs are about L20 each! Cheaper to
civvie it (they replaced coil, ht cables, sparks, and put a second-hand
Lucas distrib in).

> first as I'm sending it direct mail.) I would try and control your 
> desires for a 101, it's an incurable deteriorating condition. If you feel 
> the condition has already gone too far then you could yoin our support 
> group (the 101 mailing list) where you can discuss this terrible 
> affliction with fellow sufferers, eMail me if you're interested.

I have enough on my hands with this one. I'd like one, but its not practical
at the moment, and I definitely can't afford it.

(Ta for the email)

Richard

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