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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 19 Jun 96 16:14:58 MST
Subject: ? I "could" sell my 109...

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
I hesitate to even post this note, but have been enticed by the "looking
for a 109" traffic lately... I have a 1970 IIa 5 door station wagon,
safari top and O.D. that I've been planning to do a frame-up restoration
on. It's an 11 passenger, with a rear heater (dual heaters). The only
problem area is the frame (big surprise) but I have a replacement frame
sitting in my garage. Body is very straight, sandstone color. Really,
the frame isn't that bad, but it does have several holes in it. It
could be fixed, and I have seen worse. G-box was rebuilt about 10K miles
ago, engine puffs smoke when you start it (valve guide seals).

So, if I do sell it now, it's in "kit" form, running, and was a daily
driver for my roommate until about a week ago. In addition to the frame,
I have JUST received: all new brakes, new wiring harness (just because),
new u-bolts, Rancho 5000 shocks, poly bushings, 2 new side steps, new
rear step, and various other bits. It has all interior panels (deluxe
interior) and is in good condition except for one rear seat cushion
split, one rear seat back torn, and a small "L" shaped tear in the
headliner- about 1-inch for each "leg" of the "l" shaped tear.

James Howard and Gery Elam have seen it if you want to get an opinion on
it.

If seriously interested, I could sell, and avoid all the fun of
restoration. Otherwise... You'll no doubt be hearing all about it over
the next year or so. What kind of "offer I can't refuse" would you make?

Dave Brown       debrown@srp.gov
                         ------------------ This one!    (DUUH!)
                        /
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 |___|__\___     |___|__|__\___       //__/__|__\___
 | _ |   |_ |}   | _ |  |   |_ |}     \__/-\_|__/-\_|}
 "(_)""""(_)"    "(_)"""""""(_)"         (_)    (_)

 1971 "88" IIa   1970 "109" IIa        '87 Range Rover
 LIC: LION B8    Historic plates        rear Lock-Right  Bilstein shocks
                 Will be restored...    Crane cam        Optima battery
 Dave Brown                             OME HD springs   SSB CB radio
 Phoenix Arizona USA (602) 820-8052     Hella lights (6)
 Books, tools, knowledge, lodging, coffee...  Pager: 602.275.2508 #6486

#=======#         _________         "What lies behind us and what lies
| _|  |   |_ |}  \__/-\_|__/-\_|}  to what lies within us."

"(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)                     Ralph Waldo Emerson

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From: Robot10@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:36:32 -0400
Subject: Wha happened?

Where'd everyone go? I miss the horror stories of LR ownership! They always
made my day...

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From: Ross & Kay Fairclough <fax.rescue@hunterlink.net.au>
Subject: resend; Thanks for torque settings help/ brush paint job
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 08:06:15 +-1000

heres hoping the list is back
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From: 	ROSS & KAY FAIRCLOUGH[SMTP:fax.rescue@hunterlink.net.au]
Sent: 	Saturday, 15 June 1996 9:00
Subject: 	Thanks for torque settings help/ brush paint job

>Except for said rocker gear bolts, my head bolts are three quarters..
>Next move please..
thank you for help. the head went on and started first go etc [fluke - or 
skill? we'll never know], so our 3 day weekend away (first in a long time) 
was wonderful. i updated the 'Castrol' log accordingly + added pics
'Castrol' is brush painted. It is practical and looks okay...from 6 ft away 
at least. It does however look daggy parked beside something that is shiny, 
like a new R**** R****. Maybe it is not so much the paint difference- maybe 
it is the different  wheels, the glass, the CD, the carpet, the ....
PS where are you now Leigh?
"Castrol" '64 Ex-Army 11a 88 Regular.
NEW HOME PAGE feat. 6x6 SASR brochure etc.
(I can exch brochures)
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~derf/swb/index.html
All claims for driveway stains to
Mssrs Smudge, Leek and Scrubbit
Po Box 814 Charlestown NSW 2290
...........................................

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:35:16 -0400
Subject: Billings '96

We plan to be at Billings on Friday, 19 July (sans LR). Is there a location
and time planned for a LRO Net gathering? Hope to see you there.

David Cockey
Rochester, Michigan, USA

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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 13:25:05 
From: "Jens Vesterdahl" <jve@phaseone.dk>
Subject: Busted diff - false alarm

Hi all.

I don't know if anybody can see this, 'cause I don't get digests anymore (what's 
going on?).

Anyway, a few days ago I posted a message about my rear diff being busted and 
asked if anyone had experience in home servicing a Salisbury diff.

It turns out that the fault is a busted axle after all. The splines of the left 
rear drive shaft are crushed causing the shaft to rotate in the drive flange. I 
have bought a pair of new axles and flanges and I figure I'll be back on the 
road during the weekend.

Happy Rovering

Jens Vesterdahl
Copenhagen, Denmark

P.S. Is there anybody out there? Where are all the digests?

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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:31:27 -0700
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: I miss you guys...

Just a test to see if the list works at all....   These days, I'm 
actually having to do work at work instead of reading e-mail.  Blech!

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:53:46 +0200
From: wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter de Waal)
Subject: Series IIA Parts Catalog (ue)

Hi all

I need a parts catalogue. The one with the exploded drawings and lotsa
little numbers, and the tables cross referencing those numbers to what the
thing actually is. Questions:

1. Are there different catalogues out there, or only one? (This is a IIA)

2. If there are different ones, which one's the best?

3. Who do I get it from? From LRO magazine, it seems I can get one from LRO
themselves, from LR supermarket, probably from Cradocks or Paddocks, any
recommendations?

Thanks!

W

--
Wouter de Waal ZS1KE  GE>AT d-(pu) s+:-- a- C++$ UL+ U*+$ P>++ L++ E- W N+++>++
Argo 505 / FT200      !o K w(--) !O !M V(--) PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP>++ t 5? X? R?
                      tv>--- b+++ DI+ D+ G e+++(*) h--- r+++ y+++(*)

'72 Puma - 1700 FI Type IV engine                          Perseverance my son,
'6? Series IIA LR SW - factory fitted Lucas immobiliser       it's a   Land/
                                                                       /Rover
"All journeys end when we reach our destination but the journeying
remains a thing apart, unique unto itself. Most of us make life's journeys
without understanding that the journeying is a separate thing." -- Bob Hoover

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From: Mark.Maslar@software.rockwell.com (Maslar, Mark)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:42:18 -0400
Subject: subscribe LRO-Digest mark.maslar@softwar

subscribe LRO-Digest mark.maslar@software.rockwell.com

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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:36:35 -0700
From: uf974@freenet.victoria.bc.ca (Clinton D. Coates)
Subject: Helloooo out there?

The Major is dead, long live the Major?

To add my plaintive cry to the multitude, the Mailer Daemon
claims that the Major no longer exists.  I guess if you get this,
it is lying...but no digests since the 11th.

Hope y'all come back soon.

Clinton

--
 __x___x_  /    Clinton D. Coates  uf974@freenet.victoria.bc.ca    
|__|__|__\/__   
|     |   |_ |  *Emerson* 61 lwb pickup.....mostly runs
  (_)"""""(_)"  *If it doesn't leak, its not a Land Rover*

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:15:43 -0500
From: Fred Ellsworth <fellswor@camb-lads.loral.com>
Subject: Damp weather performance

Is poor performance in damp weather usually due to a faulty coil?  The 'ol
88" has lately seemed to be harder to start, have less power, and to idle
quite rough when it's raining out.
Any thoughts?

=============================================================================
  Fred Ellsworth                               fellswor@camb-lads.loral.com
  Lockheed Martin ADS                          Phone: (617) 441-2113
  Cambridge, MA  USA                           Fax:   (617) 441-2059

  Quote of the day:       Full nakedness! All joys are do to thee,
                          As souls unbodied, bodies unclothed must be,
                          To taste whole joys.
                                                -- John Donne, c. 1600

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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:03:19 PST
Subject: Re-LRO net
From: rhodesia@juno.com (Chris R. Whitehead)

What has happened to this list, or is it my computer again??

Cheers

Chris

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:13:14 -0700
From: Bruce.Curtis@sun.com (Bruce Curtis)
Subject: Re: Wha happened?

> Where'd everyone go? I miss the horror stories of LR ownership! They always
> made my day...
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]

> Where'd everyone go? I miss the horror stories of LR ownership! They always
> made my day...
The Major was caught in the playground's quicksand on the 11th of June,
the Major has escaped ... Stay tuned for further details.

The T1 for Land-Rover.Team.Net (aka playground) has been acting up since
the 11th, lot's of finger pointing, no resolution that i nor the merry
band of volunteer sysadmin's is aware of but during an impromptu check
a few minutes ago it appears to be working ???

So, i'ave turned back on mail, so be prepared for a flood of E-Mail. I'll
send out a final status when i get it.

Later, Bruce.
'95 Disco
--
Bruce W. Curtis                     brutus@Eng.Sun.COM
SunSoft, Internet Engineering       http://www.badrc.org/~brutus
2550 Garcia Ave, MS MPK17-202       (415)786-5147
Mountain View, CA 94043-1100        FAX:(415)786-5896

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From: "John J. Tackley" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:14:17 -500
Subject: Digest

If this gets thru to the list, can someone e-mail me privately to 
advise if the LRO Digest is operating?  I have not rec'd in a week 
and several messages to team.net have not been answered.
TIA
John J. Tackley, Richmond, VA"
'89 FLHS "OINK" (That'l do, pig)

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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:47:10 -0700
From: cascardo@ix.netcom.com (Lucas Andres Cascardo)
Subject: subscribe

subscribe

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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:37:43 -0700
From: cascardo@ix.netcom.com (Lucas Andres Cascardo)
Subject: subscribe

subsrcibe

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From: bobnsueb@maxinet.com (Bob and Sue Bernard)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 06:20:28 -0700

The list is arriving empty, so it must be working but no one is submitting
anything.
So here is a test message.
Bob B                                                     
 __________________________________________________
|>>>>>>>>>>>  bobnsueb@maxinet.com   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|
|Robert and Suzanne Bernard -  Paradise, California|  
|'69 88 SW Sherman, '60 88 P/U Stubby, '51 80 Nelly|
|__________________________________________________| 

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 22:24:36 +0100
From: Jonathan Badger <badger@tipcote.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Overdrives

Dear Landie types,

Having just fitted an overdrive to my SIII 109 six-cyl petrol beast I
can heartily agree with all the recent comments about the advantages of
having one. Despite the higher gearing I find that I am now keeping up
with most average A-road traffic, rather than holding it up! It is good
to know that at nearly 65mph I'm only revving at my previous 50mph rate.
With a bit of dexterious lever pulling you can change up through all 8
ratios available in either range if you want, but that can be seen as
being silly.

I managed to get a second-hand unit, which appears to be good. Fitting
was very easy, despite initial worries about the castleated nut on the
main shaft. As said by others the centre punch/cold chisel approach
works just fine. Don't do what I did & drop the punch into the gear
box... Luckily it was recoverd from the drain hole, so I didn't have to
take the bottom plate off of the box - thanks goodness for my colleagues 
small fingers!

Fuel consumption is still under review, but intial finding seems to
point to getting 20mpg on a long cruising run - I'm running a rebuilt
top end, Kenlowe fan, free-wheeling hubs & now the overdrive, so I ought
to be getting somewhere.....

Another current subject, sound proofing - mine has just arrived today.
It is one step down from the top of the range, being the vinyl/barrier
option. Anyone ordering one of these will probably be struck off the
local Parcelforce drivers' Christmas card list - the kit weighs a ton -
well, a lot anyway..... I'll probably lose all that extra mpg 'cos of
this weight.

I'll keep you informed about "the silence of the landie".

Jonathan.
************************************************************
  JONATHAN BADGER - 1981 2.6lt SIII LWB Safari - YNM 300X
                   Shepton Mallet - UK 
                badger@tipcote.demon.co.uk
************************************************************

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:50:50 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Ibex Home Page News

I got this from Peter Bradley and thought I'd share it:

>Yes, the Ibex Owners Web Site has been re-vamped at last !
>Four pages of shots from Mull ..... and the whole site
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
>tell your cousin's next door neighbour's cat !
>FOERS IBEX - THE ULTIMATE (NO ROT) LAND ROVER !!!!!

Enjoy,

Granville "Granny" Pool
Redwood Valley, CA USA
'73 88 (the Snark)

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From: NCITIZEN@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:22:11 -0400
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Two consecutive Daily digest containing no contents, Thurs. June 23, Friday
June 21. (no attached text  file either)
                                       ncitizen@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 11:23:26 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Billing LR meet

I have some questions for people who have attended previous Billing Land
Rover meets.

Which venders usually show up?  Are any of them used parts specialists?
Anyone have any idea how likely I am to encounter a good used pair of D110
Two door seats for sale?  Anyone know if CarAnnex might be there?

Soon to be camping in a blue tent at the Billing Land Rover meet

Glad the list is back

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com   <- NOTE NEW ADDRESS

Celebrating my tenth year on Usenet/Internet

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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:20:31 -0500
From: Jeff & Laura Kessler <lmkessler@srnet.com>
Subject: LR articles

ROAD & TRACK's occassional SUV magazine, OPEN ROAD, latest issue has 2 LR
articles.

A comparison test between the D90 SW and the new Jeep for the coil list and
an article on the 1948 LR No. 1 for the leaf list.

My favorite thing about the ROAD & TRACK/OPEN ROAD road test is the test
data sheets.  They often provide a nice profile line drawing of the vehicle
showing engine, seating, etc locations in the vehicles.  Nice pictures here too.

(Too bad AUTOCAR stopped doing profiles drawings some years ago, their tests
just seem lacking.)

Oh... I almost forgot!  The summer 1996 issue of OPEN ROAD also has a 4 page
write up on the 87-95 RR>  Buying, cost of repair, what to look for...that
kind of article.  Like we don't already know.

Jeff Kessler
1988 Range Rover
Newport NH USA   603-863-7883

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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:55:58 PST
Subject: The LRO-net
From: rhodesia@juno.com (Chris R. Whitehead)

Is the net down again, or is it just very quiet?

Cheers

Chris

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:59:15 -0500
From: doncastr@ns.acadiacom.net (Peter C. Doncaster)
Subject: Is The Major Sick Again??

Is the Major sick again?

No Messages in 24 hours?

Peter Doncaster

doncastr@acadiacom.net <<<<<NEW ADDRESS!!!

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 10:43:02 -0500
From: doncastr@ns.acadiacom.net (Peter C. Doncaster)
Subject: Is it working??

Is the list backUP??????

Is there anybody out there?

Peter Doncaster

doncastr@acadiacom.net <<<<<NEW ADDRESS!!!

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:33:23 -0700
From: Greg Moore <gmoore@comox.island.net>
Subject: list

test

sorry for the bandwidth, I haven't gotten anything from the list for some 
time and am trying to search down the problem.

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From: John Putnam <jdputnam@pacifier.com>
Subject: Mail
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 06:12:19 -0700

Is there anybody out there?
If so then I must be disconnected agian.

Please e-mail me at jdputnam@pacifier.com if you get this.

Thanks 
John Putnam

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From: John Putnam <jdputnam@pacifier.com>
Subject: Am I alone out here?
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 08:40:32 -0700

Help,
I seem to have been dropped off of the list agian, or is the list just not working.

E-mail me if you get this letter and the list is still working.

Thanks
John Putnam

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From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM
Date: 16 Jun 96 06:28:32 EDT
Subject: Military vehicles mailing list.

I don't know if anyone would be interested, but a mailing list for 
ex-military vehicles has been setup. If you're interested eMail to 
gerry@login.dknet.dk.

Regards,

Ralph,

101 FC. 

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 12 Jun 96  8:31:59 EDT
Subject: Good sandblaster in Boston, Ma., USA area?

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:26:17 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: Re: FC101

You wrote: 

>Jeremy Bartlett wrote
>"Unless this is delivery in Canada only, that would be a pretty handy 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>trick."
>There's ways and there's means. (Shhhhh BBIWY)
So care to elaborate on delivery to Calif? :)

cheers,

Jeremy

P.S.  FBB - reply privately if you're concerned :)

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 06:35:26 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Back from UK

At 10:19 PM 6/14/96 -0700, Chris Youngson wrote:

>. My only hestitation came after speaking
>with the fellow at Autopost in London.

Chris could you describe Auto Post's business.  Theur adds are a little
less than informitive.  I was thinking of dropping by their business next
month just to find out what they do.

Thanks

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com   <- NOTE NEW ADDRESS

Celebrating my tenth year on Usenet/Internet

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:58:17
From: IIIDmentia@gnn.com (WILLIAM ADAMS)
Subject: Care to caravan?

Looking for insane individuals who would be interested in caravanning up to 
the Downest rally with Dave "Look out Crabcakes" Bobeck (shotgun) and me. 
Advantages of mutual support and comeraderie, of course, as well as giant 
roofrack and interior space of the 109. AAA backup plan too.
Interested parties please call or Email me ASAP so we can plan. Thanks.
Bill Adams
3Dmentia computer animation
4016 Spruell Drive
Kensington, MD 20895
301-949-9475

'66 Land Rover S2A 109" Station Wagon Diesel  ...all there

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From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 12:21:00 CDT

I've been having problems recently in my 90 where after driving for a   
short period of time, it will lose power and stall and not start for 3 or   
4 tries, after which, it runs fine.  My dealer just called me and told me   
that it was a bad ignition control module.  Does this sound correct?  And   
if so, is it part of the ECU or is it something hidden within the dash?

(This is also meant as a "heads-up" in case any other D90 owners are   
experiencing this problem.)

Douglas Boehme
'95 Red D90 #2767  

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From: "S. Vels" <svels@dk-online.dk>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 20:18:50 +0000
Subject: Re: Brakes!!!!

ET wrote home:
 
> Brings to mind the immortal words from Ustinov's "Grand Prix of Gibraltar"
> "Brakes, brakes ? Don't talk to me about the brakes. Any fool can make a car 
> stop, it takes a genius to make her go fast.

Actually, these words where originally by Ettore Bugatti when some 
poor SOB commented the cable operated brakes on a Bugatti when 
everyone else had switched to hyd. When someone suggested to develop 
a more aerodynamic body for the racers he shouted: "Aerodynamic, HA!. 
Put in a bigger engine". 

Such a mild gentleman.

rgds
sv/aurens
 

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From: "David J. Mercer" <merkin@sierra.net>
Subject:  NEW ZEALAND LAND ROVERS
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:50:39 -0700

	There is a company in Pukekohe, which is just south of Auckland. The =
name of the place is Pukekohe 4WD. The two guys that own the place are, =
Neil and Philip, they are also the Series 1 club organizers. The Phone =
number is country code 64 9-2383383. They would be able to tell you =
about any Land Rover meets going on, and any other Rover stuff you would =
like to know. Have fun!

----------

David Mercer
PO BOX 2570
Olympic Valley CA 96146
ph  916-583-4150
fax 916-583-4829
merkin@sierra.net
53 S1 80"
57 S1 107" SW, FOR SALE
63 SII 88"
65 SII 88", FOR SALE
66 SII 88"
86 MB 280GE

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:13:21 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Brush painting

David Cockey wrote:

>I haven't tried it yet but I've seen several boats which were painted by a
>combination of roller and brush.

Indeed, it workd well, particularly when spray painting isn't applicable.  I 
painted the hull with a High Volume Low Pressure sprayer, but the deck 
(where the spray gun wouldn't work) was done with a roller and *foam* brush. 
 The trick is to keep a "wet edge" and when doing small panels on a Rover, 
this wouldn't be a problem...like it was when doing the foredeck.  (Besides, 
that Awl-Grip paint is some particularly nasty stuff to inhale.  Looks 
*great*, though.)  Cheers

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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:20:28 -0500
From: Jeff & Laura Kessler <lmkessler@srnet.com>
Subject: Waving - blame LRNA?

>From reading the digest it appears that more Series LRs are being waved to
by the drivers of newer coil sprung LRs.

Don't blame me, I have not seen a Series LR in real life since Mark Talbot's
NH Sarari!

But really, I just saw LRNA's latest 2 page ad in Sunday's NY Times
Magazine. It features a big mud covered LR green oval surrounded by pictures
of working LR Series and Defenders with the caption "Since 1948, we've been
selling 4x4s that are used."

By promoting the heritage of the newer vehicles these ads are probably
causing their owners to notice and recognize the older LRs.

This is an ad I would hang up in my garage.

Jeff Kessler
1988 Range Rover
Newport NH USA   603-863-7883

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Date: 	Fri, 14 Jun 1996 22:19:05 -0700
From: cyoungso@direct.ca (Chris Youngson)
Subject: Re: Back from UK

>Chris,
>  How about sharing some information on the Zeus conversion with us? I have
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>>at Solihull. If you ever get a chance to take it, do. It was very good. 
>>73, Chris

It seems like a very well thought out conversion to me. Very well machined 
parts. The 2.25L kit is only #205. My only hestitation came after speaking
with the fellow at Autopost in London. He said the London Taxis tried this
system and switched back. He didn't seem to know the specifics, but cause
for thought anyway. 73, Chris

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 19:05:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: Re: "More Electrics"

You can test the manifold gasket by squirting a little oil around it and 
see if it stops the problem.  If it runs better the gasket is leaking.  
If not don't touch it.  Dave VE4PN

On Sat, 10 Jun 1995, Kim Lewis ( Phil the Bear ) wrote:

> <<As people can probably guess, I've been having some serious engine 
> problems
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)]
> -- 
> Kim ( alias Phil the Bear )

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From: ROSS & KAY FAIRCLOUGH <fax.rescue@hunterlink.net.au>
Subject: Thanks for torque settings help/ brush paint job
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:00:25 +-1000

>Except for said rocker gear bolts, my head bolts are three quarters..
>Next move please..
thank you for help. the head went on and started first go etc [fluke - =
or skill? we'll never know], so our 3 day weekend away (first in a long =
time) was wonderful. i updated the 'Castrol' log accordingly.
'Castrol' is brush painted. It is practical and looks okay...from 6 ft =
away at least. It does however look daggy parked beside something that =
is shiny, like a new R**** R****. Maybe it is not so much the paint =
difference- maybe it is the different  wheels, the glass, the CD, the =
carpet, the ....
PS where are you now Leigh?
"Castrol" '64 Ex-Army 11a 88 Regular. 
NEW HOME PAGE feat. 6x6 SASR brochure etc.
(I can exch brochures)
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~derf/swb/index.html
All claims for driveway stains to
Mssrs Smudge, Leek and Scrubbit
Po Box 814 Charlestown NSW 2290
...........................................

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:59:45 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Across the pond

Peter C. Doncaster wrote:
>I remember reading a
>while back that Dunsfold is not a public museum, but that it is possible to
>get a tour. Is that true? If so, who do I call? Also, where is it?

>Can you suggest other places in striking distsnce from London that are of
>LRO interest?

>And most importantly, where are the best places to get PARTS???
>(If there is a FAQ, please direct me...)

Actually, I think Dunsfold would be a good place to get parts, too - not the 
cheapest, maybe, but as one of my contacts in the UK (the one with the five 
or six SI') said: "They (Dunsfold) are genuine, not like ... (name of big 
advertiser)". 

They are located at Dunsfold, which is a small place near Godalming, which 
is near Guildford, maybe fifty miles southwest of London. If you are looking 
for anything very special it might be a good idea to fax your order (+44 
1483 200738), the parts manager is Glen Blakebrough. Last time we were there 
we were lucky and Brian Bashall, the owner, took us to a barn with maybe 
fourty historical Land Rovers and gave us a short guided tour. This was on a 
Monday morning and I guess business was slow. We have never actually asked 
to be shown around, but maybe they would if you did.

I can also recommend the Gaydon Heritage Motor Center. This is about 70 
miles northwest of London, off the M40. Among other things you can find the 
first L-R ever sold here. They also have a small off-road course where a 
110D shows off.

Hope this helps
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 96 12:14:02 
From: "Jens Vesterdahl" <jve@phaseone.dk>
Subject: Busted Salisbury differential

Hi all.

A few months back when I mounted my reworked cylinder head, I told a friend that 
the only place in the car where I hadn't had my hands was the differentials. 
Unfortunately my 109 must have heard me. This saturday I suddenly lost power on 
the rear axle (starting in 1st gear on a paved road!). The car is 24 years old 
and I have only had it for two years, so God knows what it's been through. I 
figured it was a broken axle, pressed the yellow knob and lumped home on the 
front drive with the occasional nasty clunk from the rear. At home I checked the 
rear wheel drive shafts and to my surprise (and disappointment) they are both 
intact. The transmission axle is also OK, but I can rev the transmission axle by 
hand with both rear wheels on the ground.
SO - I have on my hands a broken Salisbury differential.
The service manual has a long list of special service tools and 1/10 mm 
adjustments and this makes me somewhat reluctant to taking the damn thing apart. 
I don't think that my usual special tools (a hammer and a larger hammer) will do 
the job here.
My question is: Do any of you have experience with home servicing of a Salisbury 
differential? Can it be done with the basic tools such as a hex key wrench set 
and assorted spanners and such?

Please reply to me directly as well as to the list. I receive my digests at a 
very unregular basis.

Happy Rovering

Jens Vesterdahl
Copenhagen, Denmark

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From: Sharon & Patrick Mulheren <keelam@sol.racsa.co.cr>
Subject: Look at all the Rovers!!!
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:23:11 -0600

Thanks to all that responded to my cry for help regarding my =
newly-purchased '73 diesel SIII (that died two weeks later!).  It is now =
at the mechanic's shop, but I think they pretty much got it running O.K. =
 However, I'm not quite sure what the problem was (they don't speak =
English, and I still don't speak much Spanish...a bad combination)!   =
:-<

Anyway, I got a response from Jim Karantinos saying that, when he =
visited Costa Rica a while back, he was so excited to see all the Land =
Rovers here.  I guess I hadn't realized how scarce they were in the =
States (I was never into the 4WD thing in the States, so I can't really =
remember if I saw many LR's up there or not).  Are they really that =
scarce up there?  Man, I see 15 to 20 a day here (not even trying!), =
everything from SI's to SIII's (plus Range Rovers and a few Disco's), =
and the papers always have 3 or 4 LR's for sale (usually early '70s, =
mostly in the range of $3,000-US equivalent).  But they don't seem to =
regard them as prized objects here.  They put 'em to everyday use =
(although a 4WD is almost a necessity in some areas during the rainy =
season!).  I also got mine just for everyday use.  I figured, after =
having to forge 100-foot wide, foot-deep rivers in a 9-passenger rental =
van, why not get an LR for the same price as an early '70s Toyota =
Corolla! 

Again, I just thought it was interesting.  Also, just let me know if any =
of you want to come down and scope out some of these little beauties.  =
The drive back to the States would be unforgettable...maybe not as cheap =
as shipping from England, but a hell of a lot more fun!!!!

Patrick Mulheren  >>  Costa Rica
keelam@sol.racsa.co.cr

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:48:44 -0400
From: Jeff Goldman <jgoldman@xensei.com>
Subject: Re: Buying a GOOD LR

Paul Hanson wrote:

> As a past victim of RoverWorks I am looking to purchase a Good used
> LandRover.  There is a Mr. Marve Rosen in Cambridge Mass. who has a
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> advice???  I guess after loosing a substantial amount with Bill Klopping a
> am somewhat apprehensive.  Thank you.

 Hi Paul,

	I'm a Series owner in Newton, MA. I've heard a bit about Mr. Rosen, 
but unfortunately nothing good. Take it with a grain of salt, as I've never 
spoken to or dealt with Marve Rosen on a first hand basis. At least three 
people (avid Series owners) in the area gave me the advice to stay away when 
I was looking for my truck. 
	Though I'm sure you'll hear from some of them, the main problems I 
remember are Rosen's practise of advertising mint trucks just to get you "in 
the door", so to speak, and that point he'll push some other trucks which 
will either be overpriced, or in questionable condition.
	I've heard he rides around terrific looking Series trucks with For 
Sale signs. When contacted, it turns out the "For Sale" sign refers to 
another lesser truck.
	Again, please take this all with a grain of salt. Apparently he's 
not a crook, per se, but his business practises could be questionable. It's 
all second-hand info, but IMHO if anybody in the Series truck business has 
any negative reputation, they're not worth the potential hassle. There are 
plenty of nice examples and reputable people out there to waste your time on.
	Rosen's trucks can be seen at a gas station just outside of Harvard 
Square heading West on Mass Ave. The Lightweight has been there for over a 
year.
	Having said that, try British Bulldog down in Rhode Island (about 2 
hours away). Seth, the owner, is a real enthusiast. I went down there and 
spent the afternoon being entertained by his crew tearing into a Series truck 
for a frameover when I was searching. While I think his trucks may be 
overpriced, he does always have a few coming over from the UK, and you might 
find what you're looking for.
	If your looking for a high-end restoration job, check out East Coast 
Rovers in Maine. They have some very nice examples, though they command very 
big $$.
	If you just want an original truck in decent condition, keep your 
eyes on the local Want Ads. LRs do get advertised occasionally. That's where 
I found mine. I was pretty picky, though, and it took half a year to find 
what I wanted. Good luck. And, if you do decide to deal with Rosen, be sure 
to let us know how it goes. I'd hate to be passing around bad info...

							Jeff-->

Mint Green '71 88" Series IIA - 9843 BL (MA)
E-Mail: jgoldman@xensei.com

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:59:49 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: BJ Acoustics

Well, so I went and did it myself. And I always get upset when people forget 
that the major will mercilessly snip quoted messages...
Second round:

Ashley wanted to know about BJ Acoustics. This was on the UK list today:

Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:45:47 +0100
From: Jason Price <jasonp@parallax.co.uk>
Subject: soundproofing kits - a recommendation.

hi,

just thought I'd let people on the list know about this in case they've
been considering it.  I bought a soundproofing kit from BJ Acoustics Ltd.
(advertised in LROI magazine) to fit to my 110 at the weekend.

Well, it's fitted and I can happily say it's the best 70 quid I've spent in
a long, long time.  Bloody marvellous - I don't lose my voice trying to have
a conversation at 60mph any more!

I think their advert quotes a 45% noise reduction - it's certainly that at
60mph and I reckon a little more than that at lower speeds.  Anyway, if anyone
has been thinking 'are they worth it?' then I can say, without question,
very definitely.

I got very good service from them too - very helpful and friendly on the phone
and the fitting instructions are crystal clear.  they get my vote anyway.

now all I need is for it to be a weekend again.  *monday morning yawn*

Jason
--
Jason E Price                                     |\      _,,,---,,_
Parallax Group Plc.,                         ZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_
StoneCourt, Siskin Drive, Coventry, U.K.         |,@-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'
Tel: +44 (0)1203 514465.  Fax: 514401.          '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)
jasonp@parallax.co.uk                    http://www.parallax.co.uk/~jasonp

Needless to say, there is always a question about durability of both the 
material and the glue. Nice signature, though!
Hope it helps
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

------------------------------

From: HAMBLYDAVE@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 02:39:11 -0400
Subject: Daves Mot - the triumphant failure............

Dear All,

MoT time again and with all this rubbish flying around in England about
'should the 101 be a class seven goods vehicle' I decided to pick my testing
station very carefully.  My mate said - 'I've had a word with a chap I know
and he'll do it!'

So, off I went - about 25 miles away but, I thought, the journey will be
worth it!
I arrived - the boss of the garage looked horrified.  'What weight are you
running?'  - '1/2 a ton less than a Range Rover mate'  I replied which I
don't think he believed. 'Ok, drive it on the ramps then'

He went round firstly with a little hammer, hitting everything - I wondered
how he was going to check the windscreen - and then he came to my jerrican
holders.  Well, to be honest, if a pedestrian was hit by one of them, they
would not be brushed aside - in fact I think it would do the job properly and
would skin and fillet them in readiness for the upcoming post mortem.  'well,
I don't know - trouble is we don't have a manual for these special vehicles -
I haven't got a clue' - which didn't reassure me in the least.

We then went through the lights - I sat in because he didn't like the look of
the dashboard and 'what's that big knob for'  As I turned the tail lights on
I could hear some faint tapping as he encouraged the nearside one to come on.
 'Number plate light's not working' - 'hit the tailgate' - 'okay, it's on
now!'  Both brake lights worked ok - if someone tells me that one of my brake
lights isn't working, I take it as a compliment that one of them IS working.
 I then showed off a little and put the hazards on which impressed him no
end.

The lights at the front were in tip top condition!  The windscreen wipers
were checked but he didn't ask me to turn them on at all - I think he thought
I might have been embaraced.  I insisted that he saw the squirters because I
had just put the remains of a bottle of perrier water (kindly given to me by
Andrew Freeth at Chiltern Automotive in payment for half a days hard bloody
graft in his workshop - always have an excuse ready if he asks for a favour!)
in the empty bottle and I wanted to show off again.

Suitably impressed he went inside.  'Where's the other seatbelt?'  Awkward
question!  In my garage somewhere - I was lucky to find that one. 'I've got
to check the fuel lines'  I felt another embacement coming - ''well, I
haven't decided where to put the filter yet - it's sort of floating around
somewhere down there, pointing vaguely at the front of the 101.  'It'll have
to be fixed down mate' - 'ok' - 'Is the fuel cap secure?' - 'secure? - I
can't get it off even when I WANT to get it off!'

'The brakes - is it four wheel drive?' - 'yes, permanent I'm afraid' - 'do
they work?' - 'yes, they're great' - 'that'll do then!'  I started to become
more optimistic at this point.  'What colour is it?' - 'I don't really know -
white and silver I suppose' - 'What's it got on the log book?' - 'green!' -
'shit!'  He didn't mention emissions at all, which was a relief.

'I've got to fail it on the missing seatbelt and the fuel filter - run it
back in next week with those done and I'll give you a ticket' - 'it's a bit
of a trek, I live miles away' - 'ok, give the failure sheet to your mate and
if he assures me you've done the work that'll be fine'  

And, No, I'm NOT telling you where it is!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you and good night,

Dave

------------------------------

From: daviscar@cris.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 19:42:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: to whom it my concern

Hi all

First sorry to anyone tring to get to me at the daviscar@cris.com address.
And to all of you who don't care about this post.
For all of you tring to send post to me you can send them to one of these
address as well:

daviscar@concentric.net
BDaviscar@AOL.com
OR send them to the cardoctor@gnn.com (he is my brother)

Once again I am sorry and you can bet I am going to have a talk with my
service provider.

Bruce
67 SIIA 88 Patches

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From: PZavaletta@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:49:40 -0400
Subject: Subscribe

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From: Defendr90@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:47:43 -0400
Subject: Range Rover overheating/generic 3.9L water pump

Has anyone experienced an intermittent overheating problem with a 3.9L. I've
checked the thermostat, the radiator flow, upper & lower radiator hoses, and
the water pump with no success. Someone mentioned that the distributor may be
overadvancing, creating detonation, leading to excessive heat. Any ideas?

While on the subject of cooling systems, does anyone have a generic water
pump, or another inexpensive solution to water pump failure.

------------------------------

From: "Hugh Grierson" <Hugh.Grierson@trimble.co.nz>
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:22:59 +1200
Subject: Re: NEW ZEALAND LAND ROVERS

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From: harincar@internet.mdms.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:25:19 -0500
Subject: tow hooks

Hi all, welcome back...

[Just want to say thanks to Dixion and Trevor and a few mystery guests of OVLR
for helping out with some timing things while the major was away. Hope the 
OVLR birthday party had the kind of weather we're having here...]

OK, tow hooks. My father in law wants me to help him pull a few tree stums
(medium small - from cedar trees) with my 88. Since I put the new frame on,
I haven't added any tow hooks or any recovery/towing appendages. So, where is
the best place to mount some of the little buggers, front and rear. I was
planning to use the bolt on kind, as opposed to having them welded.

I'd just like some feedback before I go drilling holes - I don't have much
experience towing things, and no experience doing anything like this with
the LR.

Tim
---
tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com
'66 IIa 88 SW

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From: harincar@internet.mdms.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:29:19 -0500
Subject: Adjusting mixture on Zeneth carbs

Stupid question #467: Which way to turn the mixture screw on the Zeneth for
richer? I assume that bringing the screw out, i.e. ccw, is richer, correct?

Doesn't seem to be making a wit of difference one way or another, I do have
a new screw, but I think I'll check the float again, too...

Tim
---
tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com
'66 IIa 88 SW

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 22:13:40 -0700
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Billings '96

At 10:35 AM 6/22/96 -0400, Wdcockey@aol.com wrote:
>We plan to be at Billings on Friday, 19 July (sans LR). Is there a location
>and time planned for a LRO Net gathering? Hope to see you there.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>David Cockey
>Rochester, Michigan, USA

David, I assume you mean Billing UK & not Billings Montana.
I've got a camp site reserved at the meet.  I'll be in a blue pup tent
without car.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com   <- NOTE NEW ADDRESS

Celebrating my tenth year on Usenet/Internet

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From: LilRed90@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 01:11:47 -0400
Subject: Re: No Subject

In regards to your starter, we have had ours replaced three times.  Each time
however, the starter went out after fording deep rivers and holes.  The old
starters will get wet and begin to corrode.  Finally, a Bosch starter was put
in by Land Rover, and the problem has subsided.  If you know of anything else
let me know at Lil Red 90 @ aol.com.  Maybe, it has something to do with the
color of the vehicle. :-)

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From: C.J.Short@ste0418.wins.icl.co.uk
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:41:05 +0100
Subject: RE: Billing LR meet

          Teri, Ive been to Billing for the last 2 years and can assure you 
         that if its anything like previous years you won`t be 
         disappointed. All the mjor advertisers in the LandRover Owner 
         magazine are there (many with special offers) including various 
         tyre suppliers who are geared up with a full fitting service. As 
         for used parts you will be spoilt for choice, you can get anything 
         from engines/gearboxes to a castle nut. It is also worthwhile 
         going for a walk around the campsite as many of the LR owners have 
         bits and pieces for sale. A word of advice though get there early.
         
                        Maybe see you there.  Chris
         
         Series III SWB (Winifred) 

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