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1 "E D O'BRIEN" [bt5179@qm16 Re: LightWeight over heat?
2 JDolan2109@aol.com 33Re: Roverland (New Land Rover Parts Supplier)
3 JDolan2109@aol.com 24Polarizing Dynamos?
4 "Steve Methley" [sgm@hpl26Re: LightWeight over heat?
5 ofiara@albany.net 17Owl's Head Rally
6 landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mi32Re: Squeaky steering wheel
7 Wdcockey@aol.com 14Clutches: 9" & 9 1/2"
8 "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa27Re: plus 35 badge
9 Rick.Crider@trellis.net 19My LR for sale.
10 slade@sisna.com 17LR Sighting
11 jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (22Re: Back door support shim
12 ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi25RE: In the pink
13 David William Scott [bir12Zenith Carb linkage
14 Solihull@aol.com 21Re: ATF in Manual Transmissions
15 Jim Pappas [roverhed@m3.71RE: John Cassidy
16 Jim Pappas [roverhed@m3.62RE: More Camel Trophy bashing
17 "Leon H. Akong" [akongj@36[not specified]
18 harincar@internet.mdms.c38Brake Adjusters & misc
19 rover@pinn.net (Alexande11Tractors
20 rover@pinn.net (Alexande22The right tool....
21 ROB MODICA [rmodica@east26CB in a Disco??
22 wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter d42Camel (Cigs) Ad
23 bcotton@lia.co.za (Brian18Diesel's on strike !
24 Ian Robinson [ian@fourx429Re: LightWeight over heat?
25 "T.Stevenson" [gbfv08@ud19The last gasp
26 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u21Re: Gurkhas
27 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M14Re: Diesel's on strike !
28 Richard Clarke [CLARKER@12Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
29 "Dave McKain" [MCKAIN@ce21 Re: Need covers for Jackbox/toolbox
30 Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A5Re: Brake adjusters and electric fans:


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From: "E D O'BRIEN" <bt5179@qmw.ac.uk>
Date:          Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:20:57 GMT0BST
Subject:       Re: LightWeight over heat?

> conversion.  The problem is that it runs quite hot on the guage. I have checked
> the system for the normal problems (leaks blockages etc) but can't find anything
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> Any help?
> AJ..
Probably a stupid question but I assume that you have checked that 
there is not a problem with the coolant/radiator etc. because a leak 
or blockage in the heater matrix causes similar over heating problems.

Ed.O'Brien (SIIA SWB 1963 (849JPX))

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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 10:31:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Roverland (New Land Rover Parts Supplier)

I recieved a solicitation from a "Roverland" in Salt Lake City, Utah (selling
parts for Land Rover vehicles), as I sure many others on the LRO list have as
well. Is there a connection of this establishment with the *original*
Roverland in Leeds, UK, as operated by Mr. Adrian Bailey? (For perhaps well
in excess of 20 years). I have procurred bits and necessities from Mr.
Bailey's Roverland for a while now, and recommend his services for Rover
_automobile_ parts. His knowledge, enthusiasm, and dedication merit respect
for his business and it's unique name. If there is no affiliation between the
two, I heartily suggest that the new Utah establishment derive another, more
original name for it's endeavor, while convience is afforded in it's infancy.
I myself would have a very difficult time supporting a LR business that is
not standing by it's own, individually earned merit, and in loyalty to
Adrian, would encourage others to do the same.
see 'ya on the old road...
Jim '60 P5 (628000165)
       '68 P6 SC Auto
       '68 P6 TC
       '60, '61, '64, '64, '68, '71    LR's, 88"
       '84 RR
LR... quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised!

P.S. "Real" Roverland address (parts for P2, P3, P4, P5, P6, SD1):
Roverland
Unit 12, Tower Works, Globe Road,
Leeds, LS11 5QG, West Yorkshire
Telephone= 0113 245 9569
Fax= 0013 233 2570

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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 10:31:51 -0400
Subject: Polarizing Dynamos?

I originally wrote:
>Have a Rover product that was acquired with battery incorrectly connected
for positive ground. With battery correctly connected (negative ground), the
charging light stays on. It has been suggested the dynamo (generator) is
"polarized".
And David Cockey replied:
Actually when acquired the LR probably had the battery correctly connected
(positive ground) as LR's through SIIA suffix C (mid '67) were built with
positive ground. Try connecting the battery properly (positive ground)...

Actually, the vehicle is a negative ground 1968 2000 TC, and was hooked up
incorrectly for positive ground. I thought I'd ask this list, as many here
have probably encountered this situation with their LR's. It's even the same
dynamo in use. If anyone can help, direct e-mail is OK, and then bandwidth
won't be wasted on a non-LR topic.
see 'ya on the old road...
Jim '61 LR 88" SW  w/ 16's, OD 1 Bbl weber (econobox?)  "Nicky"
LR...quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised!  

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From: "Steve Methley" <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:36:44 +0100
Subject: Re: LightWeight over heat?

Ashley Charlwood writes:

>I have just moved on from a 1967 SIIa to a SIII lightweight with a V8
>conversion.  The problem is that it runs quite hot on the guage....

Change tha 'stat before you do anything else.  You can get a summer
stat which runs cooler.  Of course this won't help if your radiator
isn't up to it in the first place; either thru' blockage due to mud
outside or scale inside - or because it's still a SIII rad which won't
work well with the V8 anyway.  Also a knackered V8 gets much hotter
than a good one - do you have lots of blow-by?

>From your message it sounds as tho' it cools OK on the move but
overheats quickly at standstill - classic signs of a stuck 'stat on a
normal car.

This advice is worth what you paid for it, but I hope it helps!
--
Best Regards,
Steve.

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From: ofiara@albany.net
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:04:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Owl's Head Rally 

Greetings:
        I just signed back to the List after the Great Crash of Spring '96.
I notice that there is some talk about the Owl's Head Rally in Maine.  I
have some questions.
1. What are the dates of the rally?
2. What is the schedule of activities?
3. What is Miles Murphy's phone number?
4. Will East Coast Rover be sponsoring the barbecue and Off Road Rally like
last year?
                                                Thanks
                                                Dave Ofiara

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 12:28:40 -0400
From: landrvr@blacdisc.com (Mike Loiodice)
Subject: Re: Squeaky steering wheel

Michel Bertrand sez...

>Hello all, there is a squeek that appears everytime I turn the steering
>wheel. This is not a Discovery, it's a Ser IIA...
-

Easy to fix, Michel.. If it is the phenolic bushing at the top of the
steering column. The bushing dries out, accumulates dirt and grime and can
squeak and bind up.

Get some powered graphite - the kind used to lubricate locks. Mix it with
some lightweight machine oil (I used Marvel Mystery oil). Remove the
steering wheel and you may want to remove the directional control switch (if
you have one) to make things easier. 

What you need to do is get the oil and graphite mixture worked into the
bushing. The easiest way I found was to heat the center part of the steering
column (the part the steering wheel bolts to) and then drip the oil mixture
into the bushing area. You don't want too much heat - it only has to draw
the oil mixture down along the shaft. Put the steering wheel back in place
(temporarily) and turn the wheel left and right to work the oil into the
bushing. 

I did mine last year and it has been fine since...

Cheers
Mike

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:15:30 -0400
Subject: Clutches: 9" & 9 1/2"

Do the 9 1/2" clutches use the same bolt holes in the flywheel as the earlier
9" clutches? Or did later flywheels have two sets of holes?  I may need to
replace the clutch on our SII and I have a 9 1/2" clutch. The SII's had 9"
clutches and the 9 1/2" clutches were not optional until later.

David Cockey
60 SII PU
60 SII SW

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 10:26:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: plus 35 badge

On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Lloyd Allison wrote:

> I missed the start of a thread a few days ago about stage-1's in
> Jamaica, I think.  These weren't the long-rumoured SWB stage-1's
> that may or may not have existed were they? Or were they the
> common LWB variety?

Hi Lloyd, 
Just a bit of background, as I've been folowing this with some interest-
Several people have picked up on this question of Stage 1 88s they are
88s, not 109s) and have requested serial numbers or VIN IDs.  They were
posted, I think, and hopefully the requesters are following up and will
post their findings. And my recollection is that they are in
Trinidad-Tobago, not Jamaica.  Close, but not the same. 

Rgds,

Walt          * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
              * Walter C. Swain         | wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us       *
              * Davis Community Network |                               *
              * Davis, California       | 1988 Range Rover- "Lady Jane" *
              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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From: Rick.Crider@trellis.net
Date: 2 Jun 1996 16:16:34 EDT
Subject: My LR for sale.

Greetings:
Have had several inquiries about the 109" that I mentioned for sale in
a recent signature.    Rather than waste the groups bandwidth here with
a lengthy posting with self-gratifying capitalistic intentions, I have
prepared a simple text document that I will send to anyone interested. 
 Just email me and I'll write you back and attach the text file.  
Thanks.
Rick Crider  KD4FXA
Monroe NC
'65 SIIa 88"    'Virgil'    .........Rough, but runs......and for sale.
'66 SIIa 109"  'Hugo'    ......and also for sale.......
'73 SIII  88"   'Jesse'   .....too nice for its intended purpose.....
'88 Range Rover    .....no name....just my daily mule......

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From: slade@sisna.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:02:10 -0700
Subject: LR Sighting

Spotted on The Learning Channel just now:

Aetna insurance now has a commercial featuring an archaeological dig
somewhere.  It shows a SIII 88 hardtop in the background momentarily, then
it drives by a retired gentelman who is part of the expedition.

In case you wanted to know....

Michael Slade
1970 109 5-door SW
slade@sisna.com

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:07:27 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: Re: Back door support shim

You wrote: 

>Does anyone know the exact (more or less) thickness for the 
>shim for the safari door wedge support thingy?  

>Thanks in advance
>CDC

If I understand the part you're referring to the thickness is variable 
depending on the state of the door.  
Mine is currently wedge with the equivalent of three of the standad LR 
"E" shaped wedges as used in the body to frame connections.  (This is 
what was on the "wedge support thingy" when I disassembled it.

cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 18:23:53 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: RE: In the pink

>Mike:
>It never ceases to amaze me how the internet works. I have made an =
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>cheers
>Jim

        Guess you should have told Myles to keep his big mouth shut then.
He told me you'd have it here for the DownEast.
        Won't mention it again. Sorry, I was told it was for public consumption.
        Good luck with it.

        See ya

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More
        Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 17:35:16 -0500
From: David William Scott <birddog@mindspring.com>
Subject: Zenith Carb linkage

my early 67 88 had a solex carb, swithed to a zenith carb but the linkage is
exactly opposite,  down opens it up.  Seems like this was covered by haynes,
but I don't have my manual.  Can someone in digestland help?  Otherwise I
will just put my foot under the gas pedal and get a strong spring.  May
really be moot as I haven't started the wiring yet which may flame the whole
operation anyway.  Prince charles made alot of progress this wkend, but oh
so far to go. Thanks...have a great day.  birddog

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:01:39 -0400
Subject: Re: ATF in Manual Transmissions

My old SD1 five speed used ATF in the gearbox. When that trans was first
introduced, so the legend goes, it used 90wt. but because this trans has its
own oil pump, operating through a length of key stock on the layshaft, and
since its kind of a wimpy pump anyway, but vital to lube the front pinion
bearings, the word went out from Lode Lane to use ATF, instead. Seems to work
great. Think about all the loads and temps ATF has to endure! Lighter
viscosity doesn't have to mean lower strength. I wonder if I could use ATF in
my 88, but I'm not *that* desperate for anothe mpg.  :-) Cheers!!
John Dillingham, Woodstock, GA 
73 s3 SWB
72 s3 SWB rusted parts truck, mostly picked over
66 s2a SWB soft top "Red Rover" being minded for friend/customer 
Vintage Rover Service
"Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!"
 

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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: RE: John Cassidy
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 22:01:54 -0400
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John:

Please email me soonest - I need to discuss something with you - your address got lost during my xover to a different ISP...

cheers
Jim Pappas
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From: 	John Cassidy[SMTP:rovah@agate.net]
Sent: 	Friday, May 31, 1996 7:18 PM
Subject: 	Camel Trophy bashing

Micael Carridine wrote,

>Some say don't buy their products, a concept that doesn't work for
>owners of Land-Rovers of pre Camel Trophy vintage.  Someone remarked
	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 6 lines)]
>products and get our young to buy and use GE weapons by shoving
>appliances in our face.

I don't buy this last bit Michael...Just because a company does not
disclose it's other commercial enterprises to certain groups of consumers,
does not mean that that company, or the product that you're buying is
"good."  I mean good from an ethical/moral standpoint, which is what I
think you're implying.  I read from the above that if I buy a Discovery
because I see it in the Camel Trophy, I am indirectly supporting the sale
of cigarettes by RJ Reynolds by association.  But if I go down to the store
and purchase a washer from GE, I can sleep soundly at night because I am
ignorant of the fact that most of GE's income is due to weapon systems
sales?
      I have yet to see a package of Camels whipped out by a CT competitor,
who with a smile on his face, looks into the camera and says...buy a Disco
and smoke Camels and you'll look as good as I do.  I do not see how
watching a bunch of yellow and black trucks slogging through the
forest/jungle is going to encourage any youngster to run to the local
corner store for a pack of Camels.  Money for these events have to come
from somewhere...perhaps we would all "feel," better by having another
sponsor take over the Trophy, but I bet that if you dug hard enough, you'd
find questionable practices in any business.  I guess it makes it ok if no
one tells you though....
        A personal example of product endorsement which upset me.  I wear
ties made and sold by the "Save the Children" foundation.  I liked the
designs, and some of the money went to the fund.  I saw a news documentary
a couple of months ago showing how hardly any money reaches the children at
all.  They profiled a Native American community that was promised funds
years ago, yet hasn't seen any.  I continue to wear the ties(I like the
design), but I no longer tell those that comment on them that they are made
and sold by a group that fails to help children.  We all make the best
decisions about purchasing and using products that we can, but that does
not insure integrity of that product.

Just my 2 cents!  John

P.S.  I seriously never knew(up until a few years ago..that the Camel in
the CT was Camel Cigarettes!

John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA

2 Wheels: Ducati M900, Velocette Thruxton, Moto Morini 350S
4 Wheels: 1995 Discovery, 1987 Range Rover, 1966 Series IIA

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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: RE: More Camel Trophy bashing
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 22:11:22 -0400
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Hey Mike:

Am currently reading the driveling thread whilst enjoying a really fine =
Macanudo... Cheers!

Does anyone have a gun to anyone's head and force them to smoke? If so, =
you should move to a different country!

Don't want `em? Don't buy `em. They are a product, like anything else! =
Some people get addicted. My only addiction is Land Rovers!! Just as =
dangerous and infinitely more expensive!!!

Agree - anti-smoking crusade on the digest probably doesn't thrill too =
many LROs... Next it will be politics, morals, values, etc.... There are =
other digests for all of that...

Begood...
Jim

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From: 	Mike Loiodice[SMTP:landrvr@blacdisc.com]
Sent: 	Saturday, June 01, 1996 10:59 AM
Subject: 	Re: More Camel Trophy bashing

>	I don't care if the sponsoring company sells Camel Adventure Gear or
>Camel Condoms. It is still carrying the logo and name of a company =
dealing >in
>dangerous carcinogens and adding to the untold expense and misery =
caused by
>cigarette smoking.
-

Yumpin' Yiminy.. Ya don't read any mail for a couple of days and all the
bozos get on thier high horses. So, I'm sitting here, puffing away on my
PIPE reading all this drivel. I sould have just deleted it all. Grumble,
grumble, bitch, bitch. I got better things to do with my time.

Ya know, once, when I was in Turkey I came around a turn in a mountain =
pass
in my Fiat and almost ran into a Camel. Now, that would have made one =
hell
of a trophey, wouldn't it.

Oh yeah, I was smoking my pipe at the time.

All hail lady Nicotine!

Cheers
Mike

Notice - absolutely NO Land Rover content - more waste of bandwidth!

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Date: 2 Jun 96 21:53:14 -0400
Subject: Re: V8 and unleaded fuel
From: "Leon H. Akong" <akongj@tstt.net.tt>
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I would also like to know if these are factory built/modified.  
The chassis number is SALLBAAH1AA159962 and the engine
 nmber is 11G01928.  I believe the 'H' signifies a 2.25l petrol 
engine.  
Where would the ID #s on the LT95 gearbox/xfer and on the 
front and rear diffs. be located?  I have not been able to locate
them.  I will try and get a photo scanned within the next week 
or so.

Daryl:

>The 109's had a "salisbury" diff with a removable 
>rear cover plate,  quite a bit larger and heavier than the rover 
>banjo diff.
Mine does not have a removable rear cover plate.  Looking from
the rear, the area where the diff carrier is located is circular and 
about 9.5" in dia..  This tapers off to the axle casing which is
about 3" in dia..

>The stage 1 V8's share the same front shoes as the 6cyl.  11" x 3"
twin 
>leading shoe (two front wheel cyls.)
That sounds about right.

Jr 
akongj@tstt.net.tt
located in 
	http://www.city.net/countries/trinidad_and_tobago/

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From: harincar@internet.mdms.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:26:29 -0500
Subject: Brake Adjusters & misc

Got through two adjusters on the rear brakes of my 88 today (only ones that
needed fixing). It was pretty simple with the kit from RN, except that I wish
that LR would include at least a retrofit diagram with stuff like this. I
think this is the second time I've bought retrofit genuine parts that don't
match the original parts. First, there were 8 cams. I used the two that matched
the originals (obviously), I don't know what the other (smaller) ones are for.
And the springs on the new adjusters seemed to work better on the *inside* of
the backing plate, instead of outside as original. The new shafts were shorter
and there were no spacers.

Stuff like that. It took about 45 minutes each wheel, mostly because I had
to grind the heads off the old adjusters - the right-angle grinder worked
great; didn't mar the backing plate at all.

Amazing what properly adjusted rear brakes can do for your ability to stop
properly :-)

Did a bunch of other little stuff. Fixed my fuel guage - the float was hung
up on the feed tube. Oops.

Been running 'normally' now for about a week, or 60 miles or so. Haven't had
it out on the freeway yet. The old frame was worth enough to a scrap guy that
he came out and spent an hour dimembering it with a torch, then hauled it away.
He might have gotten $30 for it, I don't know. I had no ability to do anything
with it. Sort of an inglorious end to the poor bugger...

Tim "I've smoked my share of camels... No, I wasn't an A10 pilot in the 
Gulf War"
---
tim harincar
harincar@mooregs.com
'66 IIa 88 SW

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 23:14:58 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Tractors

Nathan Dunsmore wrote:

>Just got the Ford tractor back from the machine shop....

Did y'all know that a Ford tractor voltage regulator can replace the one on
6 cyl. Rovers?  Ask for part DONN-105-05A.  Cheers

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 23:14:26 -0400
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: The right tool....

Following the thread brought up by others, especiall Russ "back to the stone 
age" Wilson, the right tool for draining diffs and the T-box is one you make 
yourself from 3/8" flat stock.  Cut of 1" or so and weld it at right angles 
so it resembles an "L".

For those considering more power, I made a nifty auxillary fuse box out of a 
hard plastic soap dish.  Got a five fuse gang fitting at the marine supply 
store and fitted it on the firewall up under the wing by the heater.  It has 
fuses for the driving lights, rear spot, cell phone, rear wiper and CB/stereo. 

I've never broken a Craftsman wrench.  Just a few week back, I was 
attempting to remove a spring bushing bolt.  Put a 1/2" drive socket on the 
18" breaker bar and a 4' pipe on the end of that.  I was *bouncing* up and 
down on it (figured it was 1,000 ft. lbs easy) nad it held - both the socket 
:-) as well as the damned bolt :-( .  The red-wrench came out just after.

Cheers

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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 21:51:40 MST
From: ROB MODICA <rmodica@east.pima.edu>
Subject: CB in a Disco??

I need to tap the "Collective Wisdom" concerning putting a CB in my 94 Disco. 
A local shop will install the following at these prices.  The CB would be
mounted on a slide out mount on the passenger side transmission tunnel.  The
antenna magnet in the center of the roof.  I plan to just run the antenna line
up and throught the door seals.  

Any comments regarding quality, prices, installation, etc. would be greatly
appreciated ASAP.

CB unit --  Cobra LTDWX			$149.00
K40 antenna w/quick release whip	$59.95
magnetic mount for K40			$24.95
slide out mount for CB			$20.00
installation				$37.00

total including tax			$308.67

Many thanks!

Rob Modica	'51 SI 80"		'60 SII 109" Safari
Tucson AZ	'94 Disco 5spd	"Casper"

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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 96 14:34 GMT+0200
From: wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter de Waal)
Subject: Camel (Cigs) Ad

Hi all

Not entirely related to the "Bashing Camel Trophy" thread, but...

Went to the movies for the first time in a long while on Wednesday. Saw a
Camel Cigarette ad, the well known macho guy in khaki driving etc. around
the Zimbabwe Ruins. In a (Wrangler, I think) J**p!

Now this could be either a good thing or a bad thing. So I'm a pessimist,
but I think LR has more to gain by being associated with that rugged image
that Camel (Cigs and Trophy) puts forward, than Camel is gaining from LR
sponsorships. People see the ads, OK they're cigarette ads, but they also
see the LR (or Jeep :-( ). Now they know that cigs are bad for them, so
mebbe they don't start smoking, but when buying a large rugged vehicle,
maybe they consider the LR. IMHO.

As an aside - I like Camel shirts. They're more expensive than no-name
brands from factory shops, but they're also cheaper than the semi-boutique
stuff that seem to be endorsed by rap pop stars and worn by trendy
teenagers. Much cheaper :-) Also, they're nice & rugged, cotton type shirts,
go well with jeans. (well, generic denims from aforementioned factory shops :-)

BTW I don't smoke, never have, don't intend starting, ...

W      

--
Wouter de Waal ZS1KE  GE>AT d-(pu) s+:-- a- C++$ UL+ U*+$ P>++ L++ E- W N+++>++
Argo 505 / FT200      !o K w(--) !O !M V(--) PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP>++ t 5? X? R?
                      tv>--- b+++ DI+ D+ G e+++(*) h--- r+++ y+++(*)

'72 Puma - 1700 FI Type IV engine                          Perseverance my son,
'6? Series IIA LR SW - factory fitted Lucas immobiliser       it's a   Land/
                                                                       /Rover
"All journeys end when we reach our destination but the journeying
remains a thing apart, unique unto itself. Most of us make life's journeys
without understanding that the journeying is a separate thing." -- Bob Hoover

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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:51:17 +0200
From: bcotton@lia.co.za (Brian Cotton)
Subject: Diesel's on strike !

Howdy folks,

I had to go to work in a regular car today 'cos my '88 Diesel did'nt want to.

I stated ok and idled a while then suddenly died. I tried to start it again
but it didn't want to fire.

Then it started and almost immediately stopped, this it does each time.
It spent the last night outside (2 deg) (Riduclously cold in SA)
I suspect it must be fuel starvation of sorts ?

Brian 'click, wojo wojo wojo vrooom .....silence...&*@#$%(' Cotton
South Africa 

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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:45:45 +0100
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LightWeight over heat?

In message <960601180049_101320.2736_GHW42-
1@CompuServe.COM>, Ashley Charlwood <101320.2736@CompuServe.C
OM> writes
>I have just moved on from a 1967 SIIa to a SIII lightweight with a V8
>conversion.  The problem is that it runs quite hot on the guage. I have checked
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>to move on to the "red" quickly when the car is stationary.
>Any help?
V8 conversions often give overheating problems because either the radiator
isn't up to the job or there is not much space around the engine bay to
allow for the passage of air. Firstly I would change your thermostat (part
number ETC4763) which *may* cure the problem. Then you say that the
fan is non standard but then what is on a conversion. Since your problem
is more noticable when stationary consider a Kenlowe. I know they're
pricey but they are the man for the job and you'll waste a lot of time if you
pratle about with lesser substitutes. Also perhaps a radiator flush/power
wash may improve cooling. You seem to need to improve the air flow over
the rad.

Regards, Ian
                FOREST LANDROVERS' 4 x 4 CENTRE
          The Royal Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, UK
                  http://www.star.co.uk/forest
Phone +44(0)1594 822606, Mobile(0)402 000132, Fax +44(0)1594 822634

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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:29:33 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: The last gasp

Whilst walking in the Lakes a while ago, I came across a bunch of squaddies
taking a rest/food stop by Stickle Tarn. I overheard the following exchange:

1st Squaddie:  You know Baz, I feel sorry for them as doesn't smoke.
Baz:                Why's that then?
1st Squaddie:  Well, how do they know when they're having a break?

 Tom
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Thomas D.I. Stevenson                          gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
SNL Mussel Fouling Project
University Marine Biological Station,      Tel 01475 530581
Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland.       Fax 01475 530601
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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Gurkhas
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 10:40:51 BST

> Richard, does you ex-Gurkha LR cut you every time you take it out :-)
> Steve Reddock, Xyratex       | Just as he thought he had
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> IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P)           | visited by the ghost of Usenet
> Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com | Postings Past.

Thankfully not!
The guy I live with, reckons I'll find shrunken heads in the fuel tanks...

Alas, the vehicle is sick (and at the garage), but when it comes back I
do have a replacement tank - so I'll find out...
(and it will probably cut me in the process!)

Richard
 

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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:01:09 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Diesel's on strike !

>I had to go to work in a regular car today 'cos my '88 Diesel did'nt want to.
>I stated ok and idled a while then suddenly died. I tried to start it again
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>It spent the last night outside (2 deg) (Riduclously cold in SA)
>I suspect it must be fuel starvation of sorts ?
Sounds like a split pipe in the fuel system,somewhere.....Either that,
or the result of too much aardvaark.(Sorry,couldnt resist..)
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 10:32:58 +1000
From: Richard Clarke <CLARKER@goldy.agvic.gov.au>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Does any body know if there's an anti-smoking computer list so that 
we can get back to a civilised number of messages on reasonable 
topics???Richard Clarke
Manager Internal Audit Services
Department of Agriculture, Energy and Minerals
Victoria 
Australia

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From: "Dave McKain" <MCKAIN@cemr.wvu.edu>
Date:          Mon, 3 Jun 1996 06:37:45 EDT
Subject:       Re: Need covers for Jackbox/toolbox

R. Pierce,
I've got the covers you want. Just tell me if you want them 
galvanized or not.
Later,

David McKain
1959 SII SWB
1972 SIII SWB (parting)
1970 SIIA SWB (parting)
1969 SIIA SWB (rebuilding)
1963 SIIA SWB (parting)
mckain@cemr.wvu.edu
(304) 599-0120
Morgantown, WV
USA                     

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  3 Jun 96  6:41:10 EDT
Subject: Re: Brake adjusters and electric fans:

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