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msg | Sender | lines | Subject |
1 | "M.G.Forster" [cmtmgf@ma | 51 | Re: New owner with questions |
2 | harincar@internet.mdms.c | 37 | Bizarre Lucas stuff |
3 | michelbe@login.net (Mich | 30 | Re: New owner with questions |
4 | michelbe@login.net (Mich | 30 | Re: New owner with questions |
5 | ecrover@midcoast.com (Mi | 47 | 88 and 90 chassis |
6 | krm@mtnms.att.com (K.MOH | 13 | Were any IIA 2.25P engines built for unleaded? |
7 | twakeman@scruznet.com (T | 102 | Re: New owner with questions |
8 | Tim McDaniel [mcdaniel@a | 71 | Re: What things to look out for?? |
9 | Nathan Dunsmore [dunsmo1 | 29 | Re: New owner with questions |
10 | "Sean McInerney" [smcine | 21 | Re: Baby is Here! |
11 | ROB MODICA [rmodica@east | 19 | "Road Rage" |
12 | "Mark Talbot" [Land_Rove | 12 | Series 1 for sale |
13 | Rob MacCormick [Rob_MacC | 19 | [not specified] |
14 | jjbpears@ix.netcom.com ( | 34 | More LR Date Locations |
15 | Rick Grant [rgrant@synap | 20 | Re: "Road Rage" |
16 | jjbpears@ix.netcom.com ( | 20 | Fuel Guage Calibration |
17 | "Mark Talbot" [Land_Rove | 20 | RE: S1 for Sale |
18 | "LRO Shop (North America | 17 | 95 Disco Dash Replacements |
19 | Wdcockey@aol.com | 26 | Re: Old OD wanted |
20 | IIIDmentia@gnn.com (WILL | 24 | Oh, but I degrease, er, digress... |
21 | Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D | 16 | Overdrives |
22 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 20 | Kinetic ropes |
23 | Benjamin Allan Smith [be | 27 | [not specified] |
24 | "Boehme, Doug" [dboehme@ | 18 | [not specified] |
25 | "Boehme, Doug" [dboehme@ | 16 | [not specified] |
26 | "Boehme, Doug" [dboehme@ | 39 | RE: |
27 | Deezilbob@aol.com | 14 | clutch |
28 | SACME@aol.com | 42 | Kinetic recovery ropes |
29 | "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa | 22 | Re: clutch |
30 | Wdcockey@aol.com | 23 | Re: Overdrives |
31 | "John Y. Liu" [johnliu@e | 39 | Re: What things to look out for?? |
32 | Wdcockey@aol.com | 12 | For Sale: Include Location |
33 | James Mercer [james@babb | 31 | Overdrives again... |
34 | ASFCO@aol.com | 12 | Re: For Sale: Include Location |
35 | Frank Bokhorst [bokkie@u | 19 | Capstan Winch? |
36 | GElam30092@aol.com | 15 | Land-Rover owner goes on a 'road rage' |
37 | bcotton@lia.co.za (Brian | 24 | Kinetic Straps |
38 | Marc Rengers [mr@grant.m | 27 | [not specified] |
39 | Craig Morgan [C.Morgan@s | 29 | Re: "Road Rage" |
40 | marsden@digicon-egr.co.u | 29 | Re: "Road Rage" |
41 | Andy Woodward [azw@aber. | 14 | Kinetic Energy Straps |
42 | Andy Woodward [azw@aber. | 15 | New owner with questions |
43 | "Leon H. Akong" [akongj@ | 33 | [not specified] |
44 | marsden@digicon-egr.co.u | 49 | More engine trouble... |
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:00:32 +0100 From: "M.G.Forster" <cmtmgf@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk> Subject: Re: New owner with questions At 22:34 22/05/96 -0600, Rick Robinson wrote: >Hello everyone! I am glad to be part of this fairly happy crew. >Recently I purchased: [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] >Safari Top w/removable luggage rack (Jamboree rack?) >2.25L petrol >1. The transmission seems to be making a rattling noise when idling. >It certainly seems related to the clutch, since when I depress the >clutch pedal, the noise goes away. Otherwise, the gears seem to be >working, the synchros are working, however it is sometimes a little >tricky to get into first gear when sitting still. Mine does this too. I have changed the synchro unit on third/fourth more than once, the springs go on them, and tried to find the source of the rattling. My gearbox was a reconditioned one fitted in 1989 so should not be worn out yet. The people who do my MOT reckoned that all Landy gearboxes were noisy, and I must admit all those I have had have been, but my Series III rattles more than the others did. Someone else said that the lay-shaft bearings needed changing, but I would have thought that would have been a different sought of noise. I think the main cause is in the selector forks and rods which hold them, together with the gear stick itself, it should have a rubber washer round the small ball at the bottom of the stick which stops some of the rattle, for about a day!! Depressing the clutch pedal stops the gears going round so the noise stops as well. My wife thinks =A3150.00 worth of sound -proofing would cure it, I might try that next. >2. I am pretty sure that the steering box is a little worn. There is >play in the steering that cannot be attributed to sloppy linkages. Can >the box be rebuilt? If so what is the relative difficulty and cost. I have never played with the steering box, just keep it topped up with oil. I once changed a relay arm, right pain to get the old one out and it was full of water and well worn!. The new one made a lot of difference, but there always seems a lot of play in Landy steering. >2. I am pretty sure that the steering box is a little worn. There is M.G.Forster Senior Technician School of Computing Staffordshire University Leek Road Stoke-on-Trent ST4 2AZ Tel: 01782 29 4255 http://arthur.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: harincar@internet.mdms.com Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 08:30:22 -0500 Subject: Bizarre Lucas stuff Ok, so I know that "Bizarre Lucas..." is an oxymoron. But this one, so far, is the strangest Lucas problem I've had. I was driving to work yesterday, pulling out of the garage actually, and the truck died. Again. No lights, no ignition, nothing. And this time, no smoke or fire. :-) I thought my repair job on the voltage regualtor failed, so that was where I started after work. I took the VR off, and everything looked fine, my solder joints looked ok. I put the VR back on, without the cover, and tried the key again. This time, I get the dash lights. Wierd. So I put the cover and clip back on the VR, and am going to take it for a test drive, and no power again. Very wierd. Take the cover off - power again. I thought maybe the clip was contacting the metal in the back, so I just put the cover on without the clip, and no power again. I went back to my old VR, took the cover and clip off of that and put it on, and everything worked normally. Something about the new (last fall) voltage regualtor cover must be causing a short in the VR. Wait - isn't this *plastic*? Sheesh. Must be some kind of strange plastic... I suppose if you put enough current through, anyhting will conduct, either that or the relay can't actuate or something. Went for my longest drive yet - 10 miles last night (around Lake Harriet), and turned over 85000 miles. That was fun. As a reward I put the mud flaps on 'im when I got home... Tim --- tim harincar harincar@mooregs.com '66 IIa 88 SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 08:42:49 -0400 From: michelbe@login.net (Michel) Subject: Re: New owner with questions Rick was asking: >2. I am pretty sure that the steering box is a little worn. There is >play in the steering that cannot be attributed to sloppy linkages. Can >the box be rebuilt? Maybe your steering box is out of adjustment. You need a 3/8 spanner in order to turn the adjusting nut on the side of the box. You can access it via underneath the wing if the mudshield has disapeared. Could save you lots of trouble, time, and $$, of course... Hope it helps, Welcome to the family, Michel Bertrand Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada ______________________ >>>>>>>>>>>|__________|| ()|______| 1963 IIA 109 PU (top is off) (Rudolph) | ||---| /\ | and friends (109 SW + 88 sw) (not shown) |__________||---|_ \/_| >>>>>>>>>>>|__________||___|______| ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 08:10:44 -0400 From: michelbe@login.net (Michel) Subject: Re: New owner with questions Rick was asking: >2. I am pretty sure that the steering box is a little worn. There is >play in the steering that cannot be attributed to sloppy linkages. Can >the box be rebuilt? Maybe your steering box is out of adjustment. You need a 3/8 spanner in order to turn the adjusting nut on the side of the box. You can access it via underneath the wing if the mudshield has disapeared. Could save you lots of trouble, time, and $$, of course... Hope it helps, Welcome to the family, Michel Bertrand Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada ______________________ >>>>>>>>>>>|__________|| ()|______| 1963 IIA 109 PU (top is off) (Rudolph) | ||---| /\ | and friends (109 SW + 88 sw) (not shown) |__________||---|_ \/_| >>>>>>>>>>>|__________||___|______| ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:28:35 -0500 From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith) Subject: 88 and 90 chassis Dear All, Had quite a few emails recently about 88 and 90 chassis. The bolt up crowd will want to take a pass on this conversion. It is not an easy one. Anything is possible, just depends on how good you are with a torch and welder. The 109 and 110 chassis are closer, but still some major differences apply. None of these thigs will *bolt in*, you will be in deep custom ground, so be ready for it. Many problems arrise, if you want to use your 2.25 and 4 speed, you will have no gearbox or engine cross member, and most found over here are power steering chassis, so the front cross member will be too far ahead, and there will be no where for your steering relay. These little quirks go on and on through the entire process. A 110 frame, unless heavily modified will need a defender style front clip, or nose. The list goes on. The 88 and 90 swap is even worse. If you don't use the D90 rear body, the wheel opening will be wrong. As someone mentioned, the D90 wheelbase is not 90 inches, it is longer, as he said. Again the engine comes into play, what are you going to do about the power steering, SIIA's look pretty stupid with a Defender steering column in them. What about the front end, the rear wheel opening, wheels flares, gearbox, drive shaft lengths, etc. If anyone is seriously looking into this, explore the alternatives. If you are a great fabricator, and want to have some fun... go for it, but if you are looking for quick easy bolt process, beware. This may sound like an advert, but I don't want anyone stuck with a half done 90 to 88 swap, that costs them too much, and might never get done. There are EASY, BOLT UP, ways to coil an 88 and a 109. It might even cost less then the 90 and 110 chassis your looking into. I don't want to advertise here, so if you are serious about wanting 4 wheel disc brakes, better performance, and the coil ride like you said, email me direct. Jeremy...The fuel sender... sometimes just a simple slight bend in the rod is all it takes to get the correct reading. Thanks, see ya. From: Mike Smith East Coast Rover Co. 207.594.8086 21 Tolman Road *Rt. 90* 207.594.8120 fax Warren, Maine 04864 ecrover@midcoast.com Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More Series Coil Chassis Specialists ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: krm@mtnms.att.com (K.MOHLENHOFF) Date: Thu, 23 May 96 10:24:31 EDT Subject: Were any IIA 2.25P engines built for unleaded? Greetings; I just purchased a '71 IIA 88 2.25P and was wondering if it needs to be run on leaded fuel? I don't have much experience with Rover gas engines, my other Rover is a diesel. Keith R. Mohlenhoff krm@mtnms.att.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 07:03:05 -0700 From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Subject: Re: New owner with questions At 10:34 PM 5/22/96 -0600, Mage wrote: >Hello everyone! I am glad to be part of this fairly happy crew. >Recently I purchased: >1974 SIII 88" ; >1. The transmission seems to be making a rattling noise when idling. >It certainly seems related to the clutch, since when I depress the ;clutch pedal, the noise goes away. Otherwise, the gears seem to be >working, the synchros are working, however it is sometimes a little >tricky to get into first gear when sitting still. What are the guesses ;to what is going on? If anyone has more specific questions, I will be >glad to answer. ; First you might want to check a couple of things outside the transmission. While the car is idling and rattling, grab the hi-lo range shifter and see if that affects/eliminates the rattle. If yes you are missing a cheap anti-rattle clip that goes on the ball of the shifter. Do the same to the shift leaver. Move around the transmision area, putting pressure on different parts to see if the noise is outside the transmission. If you really think its in the transmission/bellhousing, you have two choices: drive it , maybe for years) until whatever it is breaks then have it towed home & rebuild the transmission; proactivly pull the transmission and go through it replacing all worn parts & poping a new clutch & transmission mounts while you are at it. I have been informed that Rover will be making major cost increases on gears in the nearish future. >2. I am pretty sure that the steering box is a little worn. There is >play in the steering that cannot be attributed to sloppy linkages. Can >the box be rebuilt? Be sure to check the bolts holding the steering box to the frame, mine were loose, There is an adjuster on the side of the steering box. Follow the workshop manual to adjust. > (I have been running a >lifted 1980 full size Bronco for awhile) but this is the first time that [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] >Let me close by saying...... I LOVE IT!!!! >Rick Robinson Your mane is not Taylor so I'm not suprised you love the LR after the Bronco. Some advice for the new owner: 1. Get the factory workshop mauals. The Hays manual has a number of mistakes. The Brits have some different ways of doing mechanicals that could confuse Americans not used to British cars. 2. Use DOT4 or DOT5 brake fluid only. DOT3 wil shorten the life of the rubber parts. 3. Replace all fluids in the car. You don't know when it was last done or if they were the correct fluids. 4. If your going to do offroading, check the engine and transmission mounts & replace as needed. Each mount has metal bonded to rubber. The mounts separate there when they get badly worn. The result is a fan blade through the radiator. 5. Your all syncro transmission will live longer if you never try to speed shift. They have a bad rep for being weak. But it seems to result from people trying to frequently do fast shifts. The transmission is designed so that certain parts come to a hault as the lever hits the neutral position. If you pause there very briefly while shifting you will not have thay problem. 6. The rear axles are the weak part of the design. Over time and stress they will crystalize and break at the inside edge of ether the inner or outer splines. I have been told that they will twist a little before breaking and that a painted line can be drawn & checked after putting stress of the axles. If you break one, replace both. If you don't know the history of your axles, you might want to throw them away and replace them so you KNOW you are starting with good uncrystalized axles. Some people carry a spare set of new axles. Others, may just replace the axles every 25000 or 50000 miles. When axles break at the inside splines, the chips frequently break the ring & pinion gears. When i purchased my 109, I broke and axle a few months after getting it running, then broke the other rear axle a month later going around a corner on a paved road. Both broke on the inside and cost me a set of ring & pinion gears. Don't let the above scare you off. Rovers are amazing strong cars. You just don't know what previous owners may have done or how worn your parts are. And a little $$ and effort up front can save a lot of $$$ and frustration later. Good luck with your new beastie TeriAnn twakeman@scruznet.com <- NOTE NEW ADDRESS Celebrating my tenth year on Usenet/Internet ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 07:58:53 -0400 From: Tim McDaniel <mcdaniel@adra.com> Subject: Re: What things to look out for?? At 07:28 PM 5/22/96 GMT, you wrote: >Im considering to bye me a 1965 LR - all i know about him is that he has >always been well looked after - The thing is the engine has NOT been turned [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)] >concept used!!!) >iii) brakes >iv) all the other things!!! I can only speak about my experiences so far. I bought a Rover that had been sitting for 5 years. It's not on the road yet, but it's getting closer. It was not running when I bought it, but it had been running when it was parked 5 years earlier. Here are the problems that I encountered: 1. The engine was stiff, but not stuck. I "loosened" it with the hand crank and a bit of oil in each cylinder. I changed the oil first. 2. The radiator hoses were shot and had to be replaced. 3. Ignition wiring, plugs, distributor cap/rotor, points, and condenser also had to be replaced before it would start. 4. Some brake lines were corroded through. I expect problems with the rubber in the brake cylinders also. The flexible rubber brake lines are being replaced. 5. The tires dryed out and need to be replaced. 6. The jets in the carb were clogged and the rubber parts (diaphragms) rotted. A rebuild kit solved that one. My Rover had been stored outside under a hemlock tree so it became home to all sorts of forest critters and acquired numerous nests and a large amount of odor. I've never seen so many mouse turds in one place in my life. I found nests in the tool box, behind the dash, and I think there is another one behind the headliner. The odor is tolerable now... The main problem with it's storage location was the acceleration of rust. The footwells and doorposts had a lot of rot and need replacing which I am doing now. The same holds true for several spots on the frame. The bottom window channels are in bad shape also. I think the acidity and moisture of the storage were the main causes of these problems and may not apply in your case. I paid very little for this Rover, and have not put that much additional money into it yet, so I still view these problems as minor. Good Luck! Tim 72 Series III 88 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Tim McDaniel (508) 937-3700 ext. 725 | | Adra Systems, Inc. (508) 453-2462 (FAX) | | 2 Executive Drive | | Chelmsford, MA 01824 mcdaniel@adra.com | | USA | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:04:33 -0400 From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net> Subject: Re: New owner with questions Mage wrote: > Hello everyone! I am glad to be part of this fairly happy crew. > Recently I purchased: [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)] > am fairly proficient at performing my own repairs (I have been running a > lifted 1980 full size Bronco for awhile) but this is the first time that > I have ever owned a Land Rover. Rick, The steering box can be rebuilt but parts are expensive. So much so that I decided for the $100 more I'd get a new one (however, this may be different for a SIII, I have an earlier IIa). My recollection is that a new SIII box is about 300 and the parts are close. You may want to check the oil level in the box first, fill it if low and test the drive. When I rebuilt my SIIa the steering was very sloppy. The box was bone dry and unfortunately all bearing surfaces were history. I had the added problem of RHD so there's not many spare boxes in good shape floating around the US. Good Luck and Welcome Aboard Nate Dunsmore Rocking Horse Farm Boring, MD 21020 dunsmo19@us.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 23 May 1996 11:08:08 -0400 From: "Sean McInerney" <smcinerney@mail.nrgn.com> Subject: Re: Baby is Here! RE>Baby is Here! >John Cassidy >Bangor, Maine USA >2 Wheels: Ducati M900, Velocette Thruxton, Moto Morini 350S >4 Wheels: 1995 Discovery, 1987 Range Rover, 1966 Series IIA I wanna go play at John's house! Sean McInerney New Haven, CT USA 2 Wheels: 1979 BMW R65 4 Wheels: 1963 Land-Rover SIIa 88" Basic Hardtop Congratulations on the new arrival. ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 09:03:26 MST From: ROB MODICA <rmodica@east.pima.edu> Subject: "Road Rage" An article in this morning's Arizona Daily Star here in Tucson discusses the increasing number of violent confrontations between drivers on British highways. Agressive driving behavior is termed "road rage". It seems the safest roads in the world (Britain's) are falling prey to abusive, and sometimes fatal, behavior by drivers with a "Stone Age mentality". Wouldn't you just know that the ONLY vehicle cited by name in the article was a Land Rover. " On Sunday a 21 year old was fatally stabbed by the driver of a LAND ROVER on a highway south of London." Well, there goes the image!! Or here come a new image!! What a world. Rob Modica '51 SI 80" '60 SII 109" Safari Tucson AZ '94 Disco 5spd "Casper" ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 96 17:51:32 UT From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com> Subject: Series 1 for sale Anyone interested in a completely original 1951 LHD S1, Green, soft top, needs a brake job to finish. Has been under wraps for 9 years, asking $5000,00. Simply superb condition. I'm posting this for a friend. E-mail me if interested Mark ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 08:00:30 -0400 From: Rob MacCormick <Rob_MacCormick@Harvard.Edu> Doug, Enjoy your fancy lights and tow straps....I reccomend you spring for the winch because if your words are representative of your attitude, tow straps won't help....You will need THE ASSISTANCE OF OTHERS to benefit from tow strap use.... ......I stopped to help. The first thing he said to me was "Nice J**p". Since he cursed at me with that evil four letter word, I put my D90 in gear and drove off........< Rob M Concord, MA currently researching landrover related products for potential purchase, This is the first time I've ever felt compelled to distract others with my opinions..(for that I apologize)...I'm amazed by the impact of one persons words, from now on whenever I see landrover I'll be thinking, nice rig, I wonder if the owner is a real S.O.B that would pass by the opportunity to lend a hand... ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 12:35:44 -0700 From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Subject: More LR Date Locations While cleaning up the individual windshield wiper motors on a SIIA I came across some date locations that might be of interest to those following such things (or "needing" them). The numeric month and two digit year of manufacture is stamped on the base of the forward half of the motor housings (the end the shaft for the blade exits from). The three examples I have are 12 58, 11 58, and 12 65. The first came of a '59 109 wreck, the second was purchased source unknown, and the third came off a 4/65 produced vehicle (clearly not original). In two of the cases, nothing was initially visible due to a thick "veneer" of 30+ years of dirt and grease. ' Makes me feel like an archaeologist - scraping off dirt that's older than I am :) Before you say anything, yes I know these components are mobile and don't necessarily date the vehicle. However, they are one more piece of circumstantial evidence if you're looking. I've generally found that Lucas liked to stamp many of their components in this manner, at least through the 60s. For example, I've found similar dates (1 65) on the starter switch. cheers Jeremy P.S. No I don't have 3 wipers installed :) ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 15:37:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Grant <rgrant@synapse.net> Subject: Re: "Road Rage" At 09:03 AM 23/05/96 MST, ROB MODICA, wrote >Wouldn't you just know that the ONLY vehicle cited by name in the article was a >Land Rover. " On Sunday a 21 year old was fatally stabbed by the driver of a >LAND ROVER on a highway south of London." I saw a similar, if not the same, article in this morning's New York Times and the type of vehicle fairly lept off the page at me. It really doesn't matter in the scheme of things but it would be nice to think that the LR had been stolen. Rick Grant rgrant@synapse.net 1959, SII "VORIZO" Ottawa, Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 12:43:57 -0700 From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Subject: Fuel Guage Calibration You wrote: > Jeremy...The fuel sender... sometimes just a simple slight bend in >the rod is all it takes to get the correct reading. [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] > Thanks, see ya. >From: Mike Smith Yup, the simplest potential solution. I need to pull the unit and work it while connected to the guage and ground to check whether it's offset (correctable by bending) or misproportioned (possible correctable by other means). Cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 96 19:49:46 UT From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com> Subject: RE: S1 for Sale I always forget to do this, I'm sure I will flamed for it. The S1 is in South west NH ---------- From: Jeremy Bartlett Sent: Thursday, May 23, 1996 3:41 PM Subject: Re. S1 for Sale What's the location of the SI for sale? Cheers, Jeremy Bartlett ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 15:52:39 -0400 From: "LRO Shop (North America)" <lroshop@idirect.com> Subject: 95 Disco Dash Replacements The same thing happened to me not once, but twice! In fairness the second one did not peel. It just wouldn't snug down with result that it creaked horribly. The dealer also managed to screw up the ignition alarm and the centre heating controls so much so that I now have a 96 centre console in my 95 Disco. Would I go through all that again. No! If you live with it leave well alone even if it is warranty. The stress is not worth it. Probably one of the few good things to come out of the LR purchase by BMW will be quality control. LR needs it big time and as a Brit I can say that. Good luck with it. ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 18:49:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Old OD wanted Clinton writes: =I am looking for a thrashed-but-hopefully-rebuildable =overdrive and all the sundry attatchments for not =very much money....... =Is rebuilding one of these things a stupid idea? I =got the impression they were more or less like a small =one gear transmission. Also, is there any useful =material out there on rebuilding them? June '96 LRO magazine, p175 is a one page article on rebuilding the Fairey/Surewinch overdrive. All text except for two pictures. Basically written instructions for re-assembly. Before taking this on you might check the prices for od parts. RN carries them, and the prices are not cheap. Several parts are over $200 US. You might find the cost of the requild exceeding the cost of a new od. David Cockey Rochester, MI ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 18:32:56 From: IIIDmentia@gnn.com (WILLIAM ADAMS) Subject: Oh, but I degrease, er, digress... I just spent an hour cleaning the engine bay on the 109 using good old Gunk Engine Brite self emulsifying degreaser. The experience left me soot-black from head to waist, but the results art truly amazing. I knew there was an engine in there somewhere 'cause I can hear it running sometimes. To those who embark on such a brave adventure, I suggest using a stiff brush of several configurations to get in and around all the small places. Just spraying the stuff on and hosing it off won't cut the mustard, or the grease. I admit I was rather cautionless regarding electrical bits, but hey, it's a diesel so what's the diff? It'll start in 3 feet of standing water. You petrol slaves should be careful of the Lucas stuff. Baggies over distributor and such nonsense. Go man Go. Bill Adams 3Dmentia computer animation 4016 Spruell Drive Kensington, MD 20895 301-949-9475 '66 Land Rover S2A 109" Station Wagon Diesel ...all there ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA> Subject: Overdrives Date: Thu, 23 May 96 17:52:00 DST The current talk of overdrives started the old brainbox ticking again. It occured to me that we only need overdrive for use on the highway in two wheel drive. Has anyone ever come across an overdrive/rear prop shaft arrangement.? This would provide the overdrive for highway cruising and good gas mileage and in the event of a failure would only require removal and replacement with a standard shaft or use of front wheel drive as a get you home patch. Could such a device be built using gears and brakes from an autobox ? Trevor "your fertile field of ideas" Easton ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 17:44:59 -0400 From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Kinetic ropes Tim wrote: >I've never used one, so I have no experience. I have read that they >work...with a lot less stress on both vehicles. You should have seen the action at the last RN gig four or so years back. It had been raining for a week, and the trials course was one nasty run. Only *one* vehicle made a complete circuit. At one of the stickier holes, Mark had stationed the 101 with the mother-of-all snatch straps. Must have been 60-70' or more of 3" webbing. They'd give one end for the bloke in the mud to hook onto something *solid* and then the 101 would take off. By the time the strap went taut, they were in *third* gear and accelerating. I was expecting to see airborn bumpers/front clips/halves of vehicles, but everyone came out intact. ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: Old OD wanted Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 16:40:26 -0700 From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@vislab.navy.mil> In message <bulk.300.19960523162333@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you wrote: > Before taking this on you might check the prices for od parts. RN carries > them, and the prices are not cheap. Several parts are over $200 US. You might > find the cost of the requild exceeding the cost of a new od. OD parts are very expensive. Some of the bearings are $30 each and you need 3 or 4 of them. The mainshaft is about $200 and layshaft about $100. In mine all of the gears were ok. I needed a mainshaft, layshaft and a bunch of bearings. The cost in parts was $680. A brand new off the shelf OD from British Pacific in Burbank is $680. (I think RN's special sale price is $725). It is almost always cheeper to replace an OD then to rebuild it. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Smith------------bens@vislab.navy.mil---------1972 Land Rover SIII 88 Science Applications International Corporation Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake "...If I were running such a contest, I would specifically eliminate any entry from Ben involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere. He'd drive it up the Amazon basin for a half can of Jolt and a stale cookie..." --Kevin Archie ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 96 18:05:00 CDT I was driving to work the other day. It was a little chilly with the top down so I decided to turn on the heater. I moved the fan switch from off to 2 in one quick motion and as soon as the heater came on, I experienced a sudden loss of power and forward momentum. It was abrupt enough for me to notice it and immediately turn the fan switch off. I then tried it again and no power loss occurred. Since I wasn't stranded by this, I decided to ignore it. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what may have caused this and should I be concerned about it happening in the future? (no smoke emitted, so I assume my electrical system is still operating correctly.) Douglas Boehme '95 Red D90 #2767 ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 96 18:14:00 CDT I would like to make a formal apology to anyone that was offended by my not stopping to help a jeep broken down on the side of the road. I have recognized the error in my ways and since then had opportunity to help a Jeep that had a cracked radiator. I would appreciate it if the members of this list that continue to "flame" me, recognize my apology, and continue forward with addressing Land Rover concerns. Bandwidth should not continue to be wasted on this issue. Thank you, Douglas Boehme '95 Red D90 #2767 ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com> Subject: RE: Date: Thu, 23 May 96 17:48:00 CDT EAT ME! I already regretted not helping the guy in the jeep and since then have helped someone else that was stranded when their jeep broke down. I bought the items I currently have because I thought that I would need them while off-roading. The lights and straprs are not fancy, they are functional. Get a grip and learn to forgive other's mistakes! Douglas Boehme '95 Red D90 #2767 ---------- Doug, Enjoy your fancy lights and tow straps....I reccomend you spring for the winch because if your words are representative of your attitude, tow straps won't help....You will need THE ASSISTANCE OF OTHERS to benefit from tow strap use.... ......I stopped to help. The first thing he said to me was "Nice J**p". Since he cursed at me with that evil four letter word, I put my D90 in gear and drove off........< Rob M Concord, MA currently researching landrover related products for potential purchase, This is the first time I've ever felt compelled to distract others with my opinions..(for that I apologize)...I'm amazed by the impact of one persons words, from now on whenever I see landrover I'll be thinking, nice rig, I wonder if the owner is a real S.O.B that would pass by the opportunity to lend a hand... ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Deezilbob@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 21:18:37 -0400 Subject: clutch I have a ser.2a diesel which suddenly developed a clutch problem. it still operates fine but the pedal does not return all the way back up. it has perhaps 30,000 mi. since a complete replacement of all components including master cyl. and slave, flex hydraulic line, pressure plate, disc, metal lines, return springs on both the pedal and the operating lever which rotates between the slave cyl., and the clutch cross shaft. i did have an occasional squeak as i depressed the pedal but the noise stopped some time ago. any ideas? ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: SACME@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 21:29:58 -0400 Subject: Kinetic recovery ropes From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com> Date: Tue, 21 May 96 13:08:00 CDT On May 21 Doug Boehme said: (truncated by Doug S.) I arrived home from work yesterday...a kinetic recovery rope. Doug: Be very, very careful in using a kinetic recovery rope. As a former merchant marine officer, naval officer, and lifelong sailor, I can tell you from personal experience that a stretchable (usually nylon) line under tension is, if it breaks or comes loose, absolutely DEADLY!! When using a "kinetic line", treat it like a loaded gun - don't let it be aimed where it can do harm - remember too, it's a double-barreled gun - with the barrels pointing in opposite directions and very capable of reaching way past the points of original attachment like a big bullwhip(s). The primary knot you MUST learn is the bowline. It preserves about 95 percent of the strength of the line and, when properly made, can be untied after being under tremendous strain. Carefully consider what you are tieing those bowlines around, too. Please forgive my nagging - I just don't want to see you get hurt. All the Best, Doug (I remember, and it was not a pretty sight) Scott 2 ea. 72 III SWB, and charter member of the BB P.S. I just got to Bill Adams comments on your snub of the Jeep owner, etc., and I agree with him. An opportunity to gently and respectfully educate, and even to make a new friend, was squashed - a lose-lose situation for sure. And yes, I have done my share of "dontopedology" too, also known as "foot in mouth" or stupid knee jerk reactions. We can all do better. ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 19:36:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us> Subject: Re: clutch On Thu, 23 May 1996 Deezilbob@aol.com wrote: > I have a ser.2a diesel which suddenly developed a clutch problem. it still > operates fine but the pedal does not return all the way back up. it has [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)] > squeak as i depressed the pedal but the noise stopped some time ago. any > ideas? The first thought is a weak return spring. Have you checked it out? Rgds, Walt * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Walter C. Swain | wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us * * Davis Community Network | * * Davis, California | 1988 Range Rover- "Lady Jane" * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 23:05:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Overdrives Trevor's ever inquiring mind asks: > It occured to me that we only need overdrive for use on the highway in two wheel drive. Has anyone ever come across an overdrive/rear prop shaft arrangement.? I remember ads for and articles about such devices in the 70's and early 80's when fuel prices were high. Don't know if any are still available. They were simple two speed boxes which went between the trans and prop shaft. A major drawback for a LR, particullarly a 88 is that anything added behind the trans/transfer case would shorten the rear prop shaft. I suspect the U-joints would complain in short order. Also as I recall the prices were not cheap, probably no less than a Superwinch OD. David Cockey Rochester, MI David Cockey ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 18:56:24 -0700 From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: What things to look out for?? At 07:28 PM 5/22/96 GMT, you wrote: >Im considering to bye me a 1965 LR - all i know about him is that he has >always been well looked after - The thing is the engine has NOT been turned [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] >look out for, for example: >i) Could the engine be *grown* stuck?? I don't know, really, but you can try turning it over with the hand crank. If it turns over ok then I would not be too concerned. I would definitely turn it over with the hand crank before trying to actually start it, in case something is "stuck" that could be damaged when (if) the engine fires. E.g., a cracked head could have let a cylinder fill up with water. Unlikely but good to be sure. >ii) Isn=B4t likely that hoses and all rubber would be crumbled (whatever >concept used!!!) Yes, but it is not much trouble to replace hoses (3) and belts (1). >iii) brakes Again, they are not a big deal to adjust or overhaul so that shouldn't stop you. >iv) all the other things!!! On one of the Rover web pages I think there is a FAQ for LR buyers, with the things to check out. >One thing more!! - HOW MUCH petrol should an original petrol engine in a car >like this us?? I only know it in miles per gallon -- the truck should get around 15, 16 mpg around town. This varies quite a bit, of course,, depending on condition and driver. I got 19 mpg on the freeway once. ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 23:14:04 -0400 Subject: For Sale: Include Location If you post something for sale please include at least a general location. It gets frustrating discovering the parts/vehicle which sounds great is 2000 miles away. David Cockey Rochester, MI ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:16:57 -0800 From: James Mercer <james@babbage.cs.murdoch.edu.au> Subject: Overdrives again... Hi All, All this talk of overdrives has got me wondering... I already have a winch on the PTO of my S2a 88. Is it still possible to add an overdrive? If I can't fit an overdrive, what are my other options? I don't really wan't to change the ratios in the rear diff as I already have to change down on big hills, and faster diffs will only make it worse. Is there a later model LR gearbox with a 5 speed (and PTO). I have seen the Mark's adapters page, and I am aware that they make a 5 speed box that has PTO on it, but that box won't go onto a LR 2.25 motor :(. Would my best bet be to save many bucks and do a motor/transmission swap? Or should I just settle for 16mpg and 85km/h? Dreaming of power, economy and 100km/h <= wishful thinking? :\ James. O-------------------------------------------------------------O | James Mercer | | Computer Science james@cs.murdoch.edu.au | | Murdoch University Ph: 360 2790 | | WESTERN AUSTRALIA | O-------------------------------------------------------------O ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: ASFCO@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 23:49:55 -0400 Subject: Re: For Sale: Include Location OK OK OK Roof Access Ladder located in Upstate NY USA it is shippable via UPS Rgds Steve ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 07:30:49 +0200 From: Frank Bokhorst <bokkie@uctvms.uct.ac.za> Subject: Capstan Winch? A capstan winch seems just the right piece of obsolete technology to decorate the front of my 1957 Series I, but how obsolete is it? I have found one to buy, but the owner (honest fellow that he is) tells me it is not suitable for dragging yourself out of the mud. It has a shear-pin that snaps too easily under such loads, and it is a nightmare to replace the shear-pin. Even with two spare pins, how useful is this winch? Any comments, or experiences to tell of? Perhaps the answer is to avoid steel cable and use only stretchy rope? Frank Bokhorst personal e-mail: bokkie@psipsy.uct.ac.za Psychology University of Cape Town ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: GElam30092@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 02:34:50 -0400 Subject: Land-Rover owner goes on a 'road rage' >From an AP story in the 5/23/96 Arizona Republic, there is an article headlined “Rampant ‘road rage’ kills man in Britain. And I quote “And on Sunday, Stephen Cameron, 21 was fatally stabbed by the driver of a Land-Rover south of London.” See what happens when you allow OJ in your country? Gerry “Phoenix AZ” Elam ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 08:43:04 +0200 From: bcotton@lia.co.za (Brian Cotton) Subject: Kinetic Straps Gentlemen, let's broaden our minds Kinetic straps are wonderfull recovery devices especially where pulling traction is low or the pulling vehicle is too light, BUT the mounting points for the strap must ve VERY secure. DO NOT USE THE SILLY LITTLE SECURING EYE IN THE FRONT OF THE D90, It pops off and becomes a bullet. You should fit a sturdy chassis (frame) mounted tow point, or fit a "D" ring to your bumper in line with the bolts holding the bumper on and use a thick steel plate behind the bumper so that the bolts don't pull through. The rear of the frame must also have a plate behind the mounting point. NOTE: Older vehicles which have fair frame rust must have thier frames checked for the structural integrity. I heard a story where some idiot was being pulled out of a sticky position at the coast and his whole bumper and frame horns parted company. Imagine that little package flying in your direction !!!!. Brian "keep your nuts tight" Cotton South Africa ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: 88 body onto 90 frame. Date: Fri, 24 May 96 08:51:16 -0000 From: Marc Rengers <mr@grant.media-gn.nl> >My question is, has anybody done this swap with >an 88" to 90? It seems like the extra 2" might [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)] >fit better as the wheel wells are no more >than vague suggestions? I believe a 90 inch Marc Rengers Groningen, Holland mr@grant.media-gn.nl #=====# #=========# |___|__\___ |____|__|__\___ | _ | |_ |} | _ \ | |_ |} "(_)""""(_)" "-(_)"""""""(_)" 1977 88" III HT 1987 110" StaWag Petrol Diesel 23-67-XB RH-12-PF also subscribed to LAND ROVER Owner International (great magazine) ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 08:52:36 +0000 From: Craig Morgan <C.Morgan@soc.staffs.ac.uk> Subject: Re: "Road Rage" At 9:03 am -0700 23/5/96, you wrote: >An article in this morning's Arizona Daily Star here in Tucson discusses the >increasing number of violent confrontations between drivers on British [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)] >Land Rover. " On Sunday a 21 year old was fatally stabbed by the driver of a >LAND ROVER on a highway south of London." Yeah, but Series drivers can take heart, it's an L Reg. Disco driver that they are hunting ... -- Craig ,,, Wot, NO mountains! ======================oOO=(o o)=OOo=================================== Craig Morgan (_) Senior Lecturer, CS Group School of Computing Email: C.Morgan@soc.staffs.ac.uk Staffordshire University Phone: +44 (0)1785 353466 Beaconside Fax: +44 (0)1785 353497 Stafford, UK ST18 0DG Pager: +44 (0)839 453754 "It's the downhill thrills, that make the uphill slog worthwhile..." ====================================================================== ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden) Subject: Re: "Road Rage" Date: Fri, 24 May 96 9:10:04 BST > An article in this morning's Arizona Daily Star here in Tucson discusses the > increasing number of violent confrontations between drivers on British [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)] > LAND ROVER on a highway south of London." > Well, there goes the image!! Or here come a new image!! What a world. Because its very recent - only this weekend. Its been on the news most days since Sunday. Although a LR, it was a Disco, so its not that bad (Discos aren't proper Landies! :-) ) > Rob Modica '51 SI 80" '60 SII 109" Safari > Tucson AZ '94 Disco 5spd "Casper" Aaarrgghhh A Disco Owner! At the second coming, you should be saved by the two Series Landies! :-)) We do get some prats on the roads. But then, lastnight three people stopped to help me - two to push me off the roundabout, and another guy even gave me a tow home!! (full explanation to follow - still got engine trouble) Richard ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 09:57:39 +0000 Subject: Kinetic Energy Straps >Becuase of the nature of Kinetic Energy Straps, what is the "best" >technique to use to recover another vehicle using such a strap? Also tension the thing up with a winch, then get in the car and drive out with tension assist. Forget about snatch recoveries unleess you feel you would be more attractive to women with a few body parts less.... ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Andy Woodward <azw@aber.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 09:57:39 +0000 Subject: New owner with questions >1. The transmission seems to be making a rattling noise when idling. > It certainly seems related to the clutch, since when I depress the [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] >guesses to what is going on? If anyone has more specific questions, >I will be glad to answer. My 90 hsa had all htese from new. Since it's 11 years old now, they dont bother me much anymore. Difficult to get into reverse and first? Snick it into some otherr gear first to gee up the synchro...... ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 24 May 96 06:15:04 -0400 Subject: V8 and unleaded fuel From: "Leon H. Akong" <akongj@tstt.net.tt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi to all, I am repeating this 'cause I was dropped from the list for some reason after sendig it the first time so I don't know if anyone replied. Here goes!! I have been 'lurking' around for a couple of months and have finaly decided to 'de-lurk'. I have a 1984 Canvas top Stage 1 88. I have noticed that this seems to be uncommon in other parts of the world, but around here, of the half dozen or so Stage 1s are all 88s. About three of these are canvast top (including my mine), and most of the other are air-conditioned. Any way, I have a question which may have been answered before I joined this list. Can I use un-leaded fuel with this Rover 3528 V8 engine?? Thanks Jr akongj@tstt.net.tt located in http://www.city.net/countries/trinidad_and_tobago/ --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden) Subject: More engine trouble... Date: Fri, 24 May 96 11:48:38 BST If you remember, I was having what I thought was valve problems. Finally managed to get all of the spark plugs out (the military shielding was giving trouble on one of them). The results: At the weekend after the points were adjusted, No 4. was black. Nos 1-3 ashy. These were cleaned and put back in. For various reasons, Nos. 3 and 4 were swapped (not my doing). Driving on 3 cyinders from Maidstone to Crawley (took about 2 hours avoiding the motorway). Lastnight, managed to finally get no. 2 out. This was black. Nos. 1 & 4 were ashy, and 3 was black, but not oily or sooty (this was the one which was black originally). Strange. If it was the valves, then they wouldn't move! Similarly, a head gasket wouldn't do this, would it? Suspicion lies on the "stuck" plug. Perhaps it was a crossed thread, and wasn't in properly?? Put everything back, checked the tappets (didn't seem too bad), and ran the engine. It worked, and seemed to be running properly. Sprayed some of this Redex stuff into the carburettor, and then put a little bit in the tank. Still running okay - lots of smoke!! Thought I'd drive around the block. At first okay - power back to normal - perhaps I really was running on 4 cylinders. Then it just dropped off, to nothing. Serious trouble starting and staying going. I did managed to get it going for a short while, and I heard a ticking from the general direction of the distributor. Tried holding cables,etc (incase I'd put everything back in such a way that something was vibrating against something else, that wasn't before) - no change. Suspect arcing in the distributor. It was dark by this time, so I left it. Will look at the distributor tonight. Suspect it will not be nice?? If its the distributor, then a clean-up or replacement shouldn't be a problem. Do the mil. vehicles use standard civvie distributors, bar the cap? The cap has to hold the shielding on the ht wires, so this must be different. Any other differences? (UK owners: Any good mil. suppliers that are affordable? I have an old Blanchard list, and a quick look through showed the mil. distributors to be over twice the civvie ones) If its not the distributor, any suggestions? I guess the spark plugs might be at fault again? They don't appear standard either. As mine are a bit mucky, I guess these should be replaced too... If it isn't the distributor, I may well get it towed (yes, its that bad at the moment) to a local garage, see what they can do me for. Richard ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 960524 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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