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1 Vel Natarajan [nataraja@42Re: How to get it from there to here
2 Greg Moore [gmoore@mail.18Re: Expedition
3 David Place [dplace@SIRN9Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
4 Greg Cash [milveh@cris.c6landrover
5 David Place [dplace@SIRN6subscribe
6 RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.Compu29Weird power problems.
7 Jean Risse [jris@oce.nl>34Air suspension on a Defender?
8 ASFCO@aol.com 13Re: No Subject
9 "Ron Franklin" [oldhaven36A good saturday
10 jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (162.25l Inductive Timing?
11 Allan Smith [smitha@mail16RE: fragile Defender radiator
12 michelbe@login.net (Mich31Clutch problem...was weak diff?
13 Michael Carradine [cs@cr114LROA Minutes 5/5/96
14 Olivier MULLER [o.muller33Problem with direction lights on my LR 88 D


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From: Vel Natarajan <nataraja@cig.mot.com>
Subject: Re: How to get it from there to here
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 08:24:00 -0500 (CDT)

Bill Adams Asks:
>Series vehicle from Scotland to the US (POE Baltimore).
>So, oh wise Roverlist, tell me how it's done. 

When I shipped my LR from Southampton to Newark in April, I found
out it's incredibly easy.  (Assuming you're talking SIIa or older).

It cost me about $750 for the shippers, and it SHOULD have cost me
about $90 for the duty/customs fees for a $3100 vehicle.

I (mistakenly) went through a import broker, who quoted me $200 over
the phone and when I went to pick up the vehicle tried to charge me
$380 for all sorts of miscellaneous "charges".  After about 20 minutes
of arguing (and name-calling and ranting and raving on his part), I
got out of there by paying $300 and got my paperwork.  His name is
William B. Skinner who works out of the Hemisphere Center near the
Newark Airport (this is the same building that US Customs is in.)  I
don't recommend using a broker (especially not the above person) if
you have a 25 year old or older Rover.  If you have the time, it takes
very little legwork to do it yourself.  If I would have done it
myself, it looks like the customs paperwork should have only taken
about 20 minutes.  Then it's straight to the shippers to pay your
money (they only take cash or bank-draft - no credit cards), and get
your vehicle.  That's it in a nutshell.

I used Mann Transport in Southampton.  The person over there was VERY
helpful.  He even gave me a ride to the train station when I dropped
my vehicle off.  Ask for Adrian (+44-1703-33-66-44).  But since
Southampton is about as far away as you can get from Scotland, maybe
you can try calling them and recommending if there's a port near there
where you can ship from.

Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'll be glad to
try and help.  Good luck.

Vel

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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 07:57:55 -0700
From: Greg Moore <gmoore@mail.comox.island.net>
Subject: Re: Expedition

Russell Burns wrote:
> >From there I head to Bellingham WA, drop off the trailer
> at some friends in Gardner MT on the way, and catch the
> ferry to Skagway AK. We leave port on the 19 of July, and reach
> Skagway on the 24 or so.

Change of plans. Ferry to Victoria on Vancouver Island. Drive the length 
of the island - six hours if you don't stray from the highway - then take 
the ferry from Port Hardy to Prince Rupert and on to Skagway. Vancouver 
Island is a great place to kill time if you've got 4wd :-)

Cheers, Greg
Comox, Vancouver Island, B.C.

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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 12:52:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

That squeel that someone was experiencing sounds like the clutch release 
bearing has gone dry.  Try putting the clutch down and up while sitting 
and if it goes away it is the realease that needs lubrication but more 
likely it needs to be replaced.  Dave Ve4PN

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Date: Fri, 17 May 96 08:42:42 -0700
From: Greg Cash <milveh@cris.com>
Subject: landrover

i have a 101 in oregon call me at 541 9461611

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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 13:44:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Place <dplace@SIRNet.mb.ca>
Subject: subscribe

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From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM
Date: 18 May 96 15:48:19 EDT
Subject: Weird power problems.

I hope someone out there has an idea on this. Recently I have taken my 
101 on longish motorway runs and I found that although initially it would 
cruise quite happily (although noisily at 65mph) every now and then, 
usually on hills when I expected a bit more power from it I would put my 
foot down and the power would tail off, even when I released it it would 
decrease in speed, sometimes down to 35mph or so. At higher speeds this 
was accompanied by a slightly lurching, almost dragging feeling, like 
brakes being dragged erratically although I think it was more to do with 
variable power and air resistance. More recently the same effect has been 
noticed at slower speeds, stopping at lights or whatever usually cures 
the problem. Suspecting a fuelling problem I removed the pre-filter from 
the fuel pump and fitted a spring inside it to prevent it collapsing ( a 
known problem on 101's.) I have cleaned both fuel filters and checked the 
linkages, no obvious problems. This obviously makes driving anything more 
than short distances a problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks in Advance,

Ralph

101FC 

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Date: Sat, 18 May 96 23:30:30 +0200
From: Jean Risse <jris@oce.nl>
Subject: Air suspension on a Defender?

Hello there,

I am driving a '94 Defender (110) on a daily basis and use it for serious
off road trips every year for about two months in non-western continents.

I am considering fitting an air suspension system instead of the existing
set. The standard weight of the car has increased with about 300 kilos and
when going on trips I add another 2-300 kilos.

I have the following reasons for the conversion:
- Comfort. Since the car can carry 1100 kilos, the spring suspension is
tough on the driver when only carrying 300 kilos.
- Roll. If it carries 600 kilos or more, body roll is excessive.
- Wear on shock absorbers. During my last trip the shock absorbers (Land
Rover) suffered from oil leaks after only 2000 kilometers of dirt roads.
- Bottom clearance. I would like to be in control of that. (As low as
possible / as high as needed)

To those with experience on the subject:
Do these arguments make any sense?
Is there anything else I should think of?
Is there a brand that performs exceptionally well under heavy duty
circumstances?
Anything else?

I really hope anyone can help me on this one. Thanks a lot!

Jean Risse
jris@oce.nl

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From: ASFCO@aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 18:18:14 -0400
Subject: Re: No Subject

Mike ;

    I know I told you we were coming to the rally & off road day in Maine
....not clear on the  $ 5 you want it sent in now or at the rally??
to you or to Miles Murphy??
Rgds
Steve

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From: "Ron Franklin" <oldhaven@biddeford.com>
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 20:18:03 -0500
Subject: A good saturday

I just got back from having a great day driving my 88 into some really 
beautiful places around Merrymeeting Bay here in Maine to pick up trash 
which volunteers had gathered and bagged along the shore as part of a 
cleanup.  Some of the areas were two wheel drive accessible, but most weren't, and my LR was the 
vehicle which could get in and close to the caches of junk.  Some of the 
other people had $wd vehicles which might have made it but it would be hard 
to throw castoff muddy tires into a new Blazer.  I should have taken a 
picture of it with an old bedspring and two tractor trailer tires tied to the 
roof.

The highlight of the day For the Rover was lashing the rear hitch to a 
tree and pulling a dump truck out of a mud hole not 
once but three times as it made trips to pick up parts of an old building 
we removed.  Those Koenig PTO winches really work, and the engine didn't 
even lug down under the strain.  (I was watching around my raised hood 
though) 

 The highlight of the day for me was watching an eagle in its nest, (from 
a proper distance) out on a point  we drove to for some trash 
collecting, while beyond, Spring was starting to green up the tidal marsh of the Bay.

I really enjoy the opportunity to use these things for the hard work they 
were built for, and the fact that I drive a  31 year old, cranky, cosmetically 
challenged vehicle which hates Interstate highways doesn't matter at all 
today.

Rgds,
Ron Franklin

Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 17:29:19 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: 2.25l Inductive Timing?

Does anyone know the appropriate (assuming they even exist) settings for 
inductive timing on a 2.25 l petrol/gas engine?  Neither LR, Haynes, or 
Porter have anything to say on the matter.

I've done the static set and was wondering if anyone's worked out a way 
to do it inductively.  I did notice the timing marks show up at quite a 
different angle under idle rpm compared to the static.

Cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 21:53:50 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@mail.CandW.lc>
Subject: RE:  fragile Defender radiator

Hi all,
A recent job involved removing the front grille from the 90. While I had access 
to the radiator I decided to remove an accumulation of grass, using a very soft 
brush. To my horror the copper zig-zags between the horizontal water channels 
simply collapsed at the first touch. They are so fragile that they could be 
removed by a Q-tip. An ordinary garden hose would remove the entire matrix.

Is the Defender radiator really that vulnerable or has it suffered here from 
salt-laden trade winds?
Allan Smith
St. Lucia

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Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 00:09:12 -0400
From: michelbe@login.net (Michel)
Subject: Clutch problem...was weak diff?

Well, it's good to be back on the net. I didn't know that the major was
alive again.

I asked Dixon about a clutch/gearbox/transfercase problem. I think he fwd a
few of you my questions. Thank you all for your replies.

Looks like it is a clutch problem. I have removed the left wing, the clutch
master cylinder "cover plate" (on top of it with six screws). The rod that
sits there (that pushes the piston) is adjusted to its limit. But there is
still 3/8" or 1/2" play (ie- the pushrod will move 3/8" or 1/2" until it
touches the piston) 
Is it possible that the pushrod can wear that much? Solutions? New pushrod?

I have bled the system, and the padal gets better, but soon, there is still
not much of pressure. I think that it needs a master rebuilt. Any ideas?

Thanks again, everyone, 

Michel Bertrand
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
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Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 23:01:49 -0700
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: LROA Minutes 5/5/96

 This message was shot into the electronic void as the Major took a break
 a week or so ago, so here we go again ....for those with inquiring minds.
_________________

 Land-Rover Owners' Association

 Minutes of the LROA Board and Membership meeting held at 11 AM,
 May 5, 1996 at Cole European Land Rover Dealership, Walnut Creek, CA.

 Meeting called to order 11:20 AM.

 8 LROA Board Trustees and Members were present:
        Maureen O'Brien                 John C. White
        Doug Forehand                   Jimmy Patrick, AW Editor
        Fritz Radicchi                  John Hess, Pres.
        Brad Blevins                    Michael Carradine, VP

 The agenda was read and the state of the LROA presented.  A message from
        Bob and Sue Bernard announcing their intention to retire their
        offices and requesting initiation of the orderly transition to a
        new officer and chairperson was announced.  Discussion ensued.

 John C. White was nominated as Membership Chair and elected by unanimous
        vote.

 Roger Sinasohn in absentia was nominated as Treasurer and elected by
        unanimous vote subject to his acceptance and confirmation that he 
        is still willing and able to perform the duties of the office.
        (Roger Sinasohn has since accepted the position of Treasurer.)

 A motion was made to adopt the LROA Business Plan* in its entirety.  Said 
        motion was amended to specifically open a single PO Box in Walnut 
        Creek, CA for all correspondence excepting editorial submittals
        to the AW.  Said motion was further amended to authorize opening
        a bank account upon incorporation of the LROA, to transfer all
        funds to said new account, and to authorize two of the following
        three officers to draw checks on behalf of the Board of Trustees: 
        Treasurer, President and Vice President.  Said amended motion was 
        passed by unanimous vote.

 A motion was made to adopt the LROA Organizational Outline* in its
        entirety.  Said motion was amended to expand the duties of the
        Treasurer to include an annual preparation of the books and
        budget, with the same being published annually in the AW.  Said
        amended motion was passed by unanimous vote.

 A motion was made to adopt regional districts as shown on a map of the
        United States.  Regions are to be comprised of groups of entire
        states, except for California which is to be divided at 35
        degrees north latitude.  Members in Canada and Mexico may join
        regional districts immediately adjacent to them in the United
        States.  Members overseas may join regional districts in the
        United States of their own choosing.

        Delineated regional districts are:

        North East      Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts,
                        Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania
        Mid Atlantic    Delaware, Maryland, Washington DC, Virginia,
                        North Carolina, South Carolina
        Central         West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee
        South           Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Puerto
                        Rico
        Mid West        Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota
                        Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota
        Plains          Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska
        South West      Louisiana, Texas, New Mexico
        Mountain        Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, Utah
        North West      Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Alaska
        West            Nevada, Northern California
        Far West        Arizona, Southern California, Hawaii 

        Said motion was amended to recognize the tentative nature of
        regional districts reflecting the volunteer nature of members,
        varying member needs, and member self determination in
        establishing and revising regional district boundaries from time
        to time.  Said motion was passed by unanimous vote.
 
 A motion was made to bestow Honorary Member title for life onto the
        following individuals for exemplary service and dedication to the 
        LROA.  In gratitude and as a token of appreciation each Honorary
        Member is to receive the AW magazine at no cost for a period of
        time equal to their length of service.  Said motion was passed by 
        unanimous vote.

        Jim Allen (#2), 4 years                 '84-'88
        Bob and Sue Bernard (#54), 6 years      '90-'96
        Brad Blevins (#57), 6 years             '89-'95
        Domingo Dias (#115), 6 years            '89-'95
        Steve Hill (#1), 8 years                '84-'89 and '92-'95
        John Kirn (#645), 3 years               '92-'95

 A motion was made to hold the next two LROA meetings at 11 AM at the San 
        Jose Land-Rover dealership on Saturday June 15, 1996 and Sunday
        July 21, 1996 with announcements to be made in this issue of the
        AW.  Said motion was passed by unanimous vote.

 Having concluded all of the business on this day, a motion was made to
        adjourn.  Said motion was passed by unanimous vote and the
        meeting adjourned at about 12:50 PM.

 *The LROA Business Plan and Organizational Outline can be seen on the
        WWWeb at http://www.crl.com/~cs/lroa.html

 Respectfully submitted,

 Michael Carradine
 Member #1258
 VP pro tem LROA

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Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 10:13:10 -0700
From: Olivier MULLER <o.muller@micronet.fr>
Subject: Problem with direction lights on my LR 88 D

Dear all,

Perhaps do you know that now, in France, we have to pass a technical 
control for our cars every two years if the car is older than 4 years. 
This control becomes more and more severe, taking in account all the 
lights, pollution, brakes, shock-absorber, etc...

I have now to pass it for my LR 88 D who stays in the park for a long 
time without running.

Unfortunately, direction lights do not work any more. After a complete 
control of lights and dashboard, it seems to me that everything is OK. I 
think the problem is coming from the blink-central which should be in the 
motor. 

Can someone give me more details on the place where should be this 
blink-central and what kind of test I should do to find the bug ? 

(Note : I still have not the technical book. Is there a way to get it, or 
a part of it, on the web ?)

Thank’s a lot. 

-- 

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MicroNet, l'Internet partout en France...http://www.MicroNet.fr
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