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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  4 Apr 96  8:28:02 EST
Subject: U-bolt torque setting?

In replacing a couple of U-bolts on a friend's 88, I discovered that the manua 
I was using did not have a torque figure for the U-bolt nuts. Anybody got any 
idea as to what they might be?

     Al R.

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From: "Mark Gehlhausen" <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 08:07:25 -500
Subject: FuelGageSolution2

OK, if the yardstick won't work, try a flexible tape ruler.  Cut a 
small slit in the filler mesh.  

But hang on to that tape measure.  I have one residing on the bottom of my 
kerosene tank.  It never needs lubricating.  Mark  

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From: "Ron Franklin" <oldhaven@biddeford.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 08:15:08 -0500
Subject: RE:5.0L V8's

> Ok i made a rather cryptic remark about Bryon Listers V8 the other day.  
> Just so every body else can be as jealous as me I'm posting some info on 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 29 lines)]
> > The hp figures are guesstimates based on Buick GN V6's and a twin turbo 3.5 
> > Rover I saw dynoed not long ago.
> > |		  When Too Much HorsePower Is Barely Enough  

              
Daryl,
What kind of LR transmission, TC, and axles can handle this sort of 
power/torque without exploding?

Ron Franklin

Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 08:20:27 -0500
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: U-bolt torque setting?

Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:
> In replacing a couple of U-bolts on a friend's 88, I discovered that the manua
> I was using did not have a torque figure for the U-bolt nuts. Anybody got any
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> idea as to what they might be?
>      Al R.

I tightened mine until the ratchet broke one pin off (in the ratchet).  Seems to have 
worked ok.  Two pins may be too tight.

Nate (Semi-quantitative) Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 08:10:36 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: SEE and HMMH (was: LR vs HMMV)

 
> Don't forget that pursuant to Desert Storm, 250 Special Operations Vehicles 
> (SOV) were ordered and delivered to the 75th Ranger Battalion - as 110-based 
> gunships. 

Also don't forget it was LR equiped units that found and knocked out 
all the mobile SCUD launchers when the flyboys couldn't find hide nor 
hair of them.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 08:17:46 GMT -0600
Subject: Re: U-bolt torque setting?

Alan asks:
> In replacing a couple of U-bolts on a friend's 88, I discovered that the manua 
> I was using did not have a torque figure for the U-bolt nuts. Anybody got any 
> idea as to what they might be?
-
I don't recall seeing one anywhere (but I could be wrong). A spring 
shop could tell you, I'm sure, what the torque should be on a 7/16 
fine thread u-bolt.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: 04 Apr 1996 09:15:09 GMT
From: "Anthony Verriello" <verriello_anthony@jpmorgan.com>
Subject: unsubscribe lro-digest

unsubscribe lro-digest

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From: Alan Richer <Alan_Richer.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  4 Apr 96  9:57:08 EST
Subject: Re: U-bolt torque setting?

 Anybody got any
> idea as to what they might be?
>      Al R.

I tightened mine until the ratchet broke one pin off (in the ratchet).  Seems 
to have 
worked ok.  Two pins may be too tight.

Nate (Semi-quantitative) Dunsmore
Rocking Horse Farm
Boring, MD 21020
dunsmo19@us.net

GAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Not with MY ratchets, thank you verey much.....8*)

   ick! -ajr 

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date:  4 Apr 96 10:30:52 EST
Subject: U-Bolt Torque Found! Film at 11....

I gave up and called Rovers North. Turns out LR specs it in the S.III manual - 
58-60 pounds.

Not as much as I thought, actually.....

FYI, the shackles are suposed to be 60-70 pounds - thought I'd ask about that 
one too.

Thanks, All!

    aj"Why do my arms ache?"r

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 06:54:59 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: GrabHandlesYouSay?!?!?!

The grabhandles on civilian Land Rovers are, I believe, a holdover from
WWII jeeps.  When the Land Rover was designed I suspect they were added
because thats what real 4X4s had on the back.

Think of a stripped down series I 80 carrying an officer trying to go
through deep mud past a line of soldiers.  The 80 bogs down and the officer
barks orders to the soldiers.  A couple of them find themselves grabbing
the lift handles and lift the rear of the car while pushing along with
everyone else but the driver and officer.  The lifting gets the body off
the mud and with a rooster tail of mud spraying at the people on the rear
lift handles the officer is off.

If you don't have a lot of people at your beck and call when you get stuck
and need a little lift or if you Land Rover is heavier than a topless 80,
those lift bars are useless artifacts.

When I got my 109 they had already been replaced by boxes used as a holder
for jerry cans.  I ended up replacing the boxes for military bumperettes.
One of them have already saved the left rear of my 109 from a nasty dent.

AND the bumperettes can be used as lift handles ;*)

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com   <- NOTE NEW ADDRESS

Celebrating my tenth year on Usenet/Internet

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 06:55:03 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: U-bolt torque setting?

At  8:28 AM 4/4/96 -0500, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus
<Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.co wrote:
>In replacing a couple of U-bolts on a friend's 88, I discovered that the manua
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>idea as to what they might be?
>     Al R.

I do not have a torque setting.  But the 'U' bolts are soft steel so if you
use much torque the threads will strip.  use nuloc nuts and maybe 23 bounds
torque as a guess.  Don't sue if they strip but I don't think they will at
that pressure.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com   <- NOTE NEW ADDRESS

Celebrating my tenth year on Usenet/Internet

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 07:27:52 -0800
From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Land Rover For Sale

At 12:14 AM 4/4/96 -0500, you wrote:
>> My 1962 SIIA 109 is still for sale.  I am considering an offer and would
>> like to make a last "for sale" announcement before selling. If interested,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
>I couldn't find your www page, but I may be interested.  How bout some more
>info?
I just checked the WWW page and it worked.  Can you try again --
http://home.earthlink.net/~johnliu/forsale.htm -- and email me if it still
doesn't work.  The WWW page has numerous photos and full vehicle history
with all the info.

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 07:28:01 -0800
From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Bought a SIIa, now I have questions.

At 11:46 AM 4/4/96 -0800, you wrote:
>I gather
>that this means that the rear oil seal on the transfer case is shot.  Is
>this a big deal to fix?? More importantly in the short term, how can I check
>the oil level, and where is the best/easiest place to add oil??

On the side of the transfer case (the driver's or left side, I believe)
there is a square-headed bolt.  Check the transfer case oil level there.

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 07:28:03 -0800
From: "John Y. Liu" <johnliu@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: JohnLuiResendWWWAddress

At 06:32 AM 4/4/96 -500, you wrote:
>John Lui,
>Please republish your www page address.  I have been unable to access it.  
>Thanks!

The address is http://home.earthlink.net/~johnliu/forsale.htm 

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From: Land_Rovers@learnlink.emory.edu (Sean P. Murphy)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:38:58 -0500
Subject: Re: NY Auto Show LRNA Press Release

LANROVEFN@aol.com,Internet writes:
I attended the press conference held at the NY Auto Show today and I
would
like to inform everyone of what was announced BY BILL BAKER, LRNA PR
guy.
1997 Defender 90 - Available late 1996 and available only with an
automatic
transmission.  Soft top version will follow in 97.  No airbags.  Price
around
$34k. Colors are same plus red

I thought airbags were a requirement now?  If so, how do you suppose
they got around that hideous law?

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:14:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Braman Colton Wing <bcw6@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Cylinder Head Gasket

I just redid the head on my IIA and noticed the smaller holes as well. I
called up RN and they said that Rover had redesigned the gasket to
eliminate some hot spots in the engine. Good Luck!

						Braman

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 18:33:10 +0000
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Cylinder head gaskets

jve@phaseone.dk wrote:
> I noticed that two of the holes in the gasket (for cooling liquid or oil) are
> smaller than the others.

The small holes in the gasket belong at the front of the block (1&2). This 
constricts the water flow, as the front of the engine cools faster than the 
rear. The holes in the block and head itself are the same size, however.

The gasket should be marked to show which way up it should go, otherwise follow 
the above.

-- 
David Olley
.....................................................................................
Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
.....................................................................................

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 09:41:04 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetmail.ushmm.org>
Subject: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.....

...sound of tired LRo sleeping at work after satying up 'til 2am reassembling 
top of gearbox. And it STILL pops out of first! Ah well, I guess this weekend 
I'll pop it off again and see if I can get it to work. Driving without the 
floors in is really fun, I highly recommend that everybody tries it at least 
once. Also, for some real kicks, try running the engine with the top cover off 
the gearbox. It's a guaranteed crowd pleaser.

Cheers
Dave "All that gear oil oughtta keep the dew off the headlining" B.

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 18:38:34 +0000
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: DeadOdometerFix

Mark Gehlhausen wrote:
> I used to have a vehicle without odometer and fuel gage.  I used a
> yardstick to determine fuel volume.  It never failed me!

For two years my wife's mini was equipped like that when the fuel sender 
seized. I gave her a nice stick to use - and she didn't complain too 
much.:-/

-- 
David Olley
.....................................................................................
Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
.....................................................................................

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 18:40:53 +0000
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: FuelGageSolution2

Mark Gehlhausen wrote:
> Cut a small slit in the filler mesh.

Why cut the mesh? The filter assembly should pull out very easily.

-- 
David Olley
.....................................................................................
Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
.....................................................................................

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From: rpeng@cadev6.intel.com
Subject: Re: NY Auto Show LRNA Press Release
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 96 9:47:30 PST

>I attended the press conference held at the NY Auto Show today and I would
>like to inform everyone of what was announced BY BILL BAKER, LRNA PR guy.
>1997 Defender 90 - Available late 1996 and available only with an automatic
>transmission.  Soft top version will follow in 97.  No airbags.  Price around
>$34k. Colors are same plus red

What do you mean no airbags? I thought airbags are required by now.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roger Peng                                     (408)765-7863
Intel Corporation
Design Technology, Physical CAD
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:08:51 -0800
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville B. Pool)
Subject: John Liu's URL

When John posted the URL for his Land-Rover-for-sale page yesterday, he
forgot to hit the shift key so got "`" instead of "~" so the correct URL is:

    http://home.earthlink.net/~johnliu/forsale.htm

This may already have been posted, so I appologize if it's redundant.  I am
in digest mode so only see day-old postings :>(

Granny
Redwood Valley, CA, USA

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Subject: Re: DesertStormYouSay? 
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 10:09:24 -0800
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil>

In message <bulk.17615.19960404034642@Land-Rover.Team.Net>you wrote:
> I am baffled!  Do you mean a cousin of the IIA 109 I recently rode in
> was used in Desert Storm?  Either it is a very distant cousin or I am 
> underappreciating the LR capability.  This vehicle was quite sluggish 
> and I would greatly fear the consequences of a collision.  Can you 
> drive these things at speeds over 40mph?  Mark         

	I've seen photos of Lightweights in the Gulf War.  I think I've
seen photos of SIIIs (but I don't have Morrison's book in front of me to
check).  And of course there were the V8 powered 101" FCs and Defenders. 
There were even a few Discos in use by command staff.

	I dunno about the condition of your IIA 109, but my SIII 88 can
easily maintain 55 mph on washboarded dirt roads.

Ben
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Benjamin Smith------------bens@vislab.navy.mil---------1972 Land Rover SIII 88
 Science Applications International Corporation
 Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake
 
"...If I were running such a contest, I would specifically eliminate any entries from Ben involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere.  He'd drive it up the
 Amazon basin for a half can of Jolt and a stale cookie..."  --Kevin Archie

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From: Jim Steinborn <steinbor@CS.ColoState.EDU>
Subject: Airbags on 1997 Defender 90
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:39:43 -0700 (MST)

> >1997 Defender 90 - Available late 1996 and available only with an automatic
> >transmission.  Soft top version will follow in 97.  No airbags.  Price around
> >$34k. Colors are same plus red
> What do you mean no airbags? I thought airbags are required by now.

I would guess that because of the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of the
Defender, certain regulations are not necessarily applicable. For
example (if I am not mistaken), Rover products are exempt from the
US Luxury Tax because of their high GVWR (I'm not sure what the cutoff 
weight is, but I think it is around 6000 lbs). Because of the high GVWR,
they are not considered passenger cars, and therefore, certain rules
do not apply.
-- 

Jim Steinborn                                 ____             AMA OHS
steinbor@cs.colostate.edu                     \  /           AIO NAWCC
http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~steinbor          \/          STOC ST1100

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:54:53 -0800 (PST)
From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org>
Subject: Four Wheeler Top Truck Voting

Sorry to send this to both lists, but why don't we all buy a copy of Four 
Wheeler and send in their voting form to elect the D-90 as one of the 
vehicles to make it into the Top Truck competition this year? Someone was 
good enough to enter one; he made it to the first cut of 60 or so, and 
now it's up to the readers to choose the top 10. Last year only about 
1,000 people voted, so I bet the folks on this list could make a difference!

Send in those voting forms

Cheers

John Brabyn
89RR

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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 11:02:09 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: DesertStormYouSay?

On 4/4/96 -500, Mark Gehlhausen <Gehl@sphinx.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil> wrote:
:I am baffled!  Do you mean a cousin of the IIA 109 I recently rode in
:was used in Desert Storm?  Either it is a very distant cousin or I am
:underappreciating the LR capability.  This vehicle was quite sluggish
:and I would greatly fear the consequences of a collision.  Can you
:drive these things at speeds over 40mph?  Mark

 Cousin yes, and much more.  They probably used Defender D-110 and
 D-90's.  These have coils suspensions, a V8 turbo-diesel engine, and
 other goodies setting them apart from the 109.  They also do perpetuate
 the remarkable good looks of the Series Land-Rovers.  These vehicles
 are anything but sluggish, in fact they are quite maneuverable and
 stable... I suppose that is why the US military has a few in use.

 Cheers,

                         ______
 Michael Carradine       [__[__\==                    Rumpole of the Bay
 510-988-0900            [________]               Land-Rover Roughmobile
 cs@crl.com  __________.._(o)__.(o)____...o^^^  '65 IIA 2.235m (was 88")
 _______________________________________________________________________
 Land-Rover 4x4 Connection WWW page:   http://www.crl.com/~cs/rover.html

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:50:39 -0800
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville B. Pool)
Subject: L/R Defender needs your vote!

>Resent-From: daemon@ridgecrest.ca.us
>Posted-Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:25:50 -0800
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 48 lines)]
>Won't you please help in getting him in? Buy the magazine, vote for number
>49, and send it in right away. Thanks!
>Steve/BRITPAC   Please forward this to other lists and groups.

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From: "Boehme, Doug" <dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 16:08:00 CST

I'm going to purchase a jack in the very near
future and was wondering which would be
the best for me: Hi-Lift or Jack-All?

I have a stock '95 D90 w/bullbar and
do occasional off-roading (I'd like to do alot
more, but south-eastern Pennsylvania doesn't
seem to have much in the way of places to go.)

I've read that both jacks can be used for light
winching duties and I would probably use it
for that purpose.

BTW, if anyone has suggestions for off-roading
within 2 hours drive time of Philadelphia, PA,
I would LOVE to hear about them!
(Would state agencies have maps of
such possible places?)

Thanks alot,
Douglas Boehme
'95 Red D90 #2767
dboehme@rad1.pcmail.ingr.com

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:42:02 -0500
Subject: Re: NY Auto Show LRNA Press Release

In a message dated 96-04-04 11:41:54 EST, you write:

-LANROVEFN@aol.com,Internet writes:
-I attended the press conference held at the NY Auto Show today and I
would
-like to inform everyone of what was announced BY BILL BAKER, LRNA PR
-guy.
-1997 Defender 90 - Available late 1996 and available only with an
-automatic
-transmission.  Soft top version will follow in 97.  No airbags.  Price
-around
-$34k. Colors are same plus red
-
Sean asks:
>I thought airbags were a requirement now?  If so, how do you suppose
>they got around that hideous law?

Airbags on light trucks must be fully implemented starting with the '98 model
year. Automotive News reports that the Defender is back for '97 only. This is
an interesting decision. The first time an automatic has been available in a
Defender or its predecesors, and then only for 1 year in the U.S. A guess is
that the decision to put in OBDII was made with the anticipation that airbags
would be fitted, and then the costs proved too much for the airbags.

A very reliable source reports that LR is starting work on a replacement for
the Defender, and is considering some concepts which are fundamentally
different than current LR technology.

David Cockey
Rochester, MI

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:12:07 GMT -0600
Subject: Shackles

Sorry for the crosspost, but someone was asking how I mounted 
shackles on my LR and I can't remember who it was.
 You can sort of see them in a photo. Next to the 
bumper overider there is a heavy (about 1" thick) metal tab mounted 
with the bumper mount bolts. The screw pin passes through a hole in 
that. I'll get a better photo soon.
You can find the photo at:
http://www.cdr.wisc.edu/staff/trowe/trowelr.html
And you'll also see why my friends in Vermont  took to calling my LR the 
Antichrist. Had nothing to do with "The Gods Must Be Crazy".

ps. Friday I'll have the server down, so if you can't connect, try 
later.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:19:46 -0500
From: Allan Smith <smitha@mail.CandW.lc>
Subject: Re: missle launcher

>> Wow! Milan missle launcher is an *option.*
>This, presumably, is for throwing bibles at the enemy!:-)
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>-- 
>David Olley
Exactly, used very effectively in the Gulf, and developed under the deliberately 
misspelled codename of Project Missle to conceal the fact that the projectiles 
were actually missals.
Allan Smith

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From: howtaw@hg.uleth.ca
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 17:40:07 MST
Subject: Anyone else use my method?

Andy Woodward wrote:
>Anyone else use my method?...

Yes sort of,  I use a comealong and three recovery/tow straps.  The ends of the
straps are attached to make one long strap and this is attached to the Rover. 
You then attach the strap's other end to the comealong's cable and attach the
comealong to a tree etc...(This method works well when you are alone and the
comealong is not sufficant when used normally).  With the Rover well stuck and
the parking brake on you put as much effort as you can into the comealong. 
Then get in the Rover, step on the brakes, release the parking brake, and step
on the gas while releasing the brake.  The strech in the straps and the
vehicles own power will move you some distance.  If still stuck repeat the
above untill you are free.  WARNING: THE COMEALONG MECHANISUM COULD/WILL BE
HAPPY TO REMOVE FINGERS OR OTHER BODY PARTS IF GIVEN THE CHANCE WHILE IT IS
UNDER THIS MUCH TENTION.  GET YOUR FINGER OUT AND WHERE GLOVES!

Andrew Howton
109 2door
109 NADA (parting)
110 2door (if I click my heels together three times?)
 

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 19:46:08 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Lists

Could someone please forward me the addresses of the other Rover lists.  I 
have inadvertently deleted them.... :-0  Cheers
      *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                   |
      |       Rover Owners' Association of Virginia         |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day)  |
      |    804-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 804-622-7056     |
      *-----------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:00:12 -0800
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: Re: Bought a SIIa, now I have questions.

You wrote: 

>>I gather
>>that this means that the rear oil seal on the transfer case is shot.  Is
>>this a big deal to fix?? More importantly in the short term, how can I check
>>the oil level, and where is the best/easiest place to add oil??

>On the side of the transfer case (the driver's or left side, I believe)
>there is a square-headed bolt.  Check the transfer case oil level there.
>>this a big deal to fix?? More importantly in the short term, how can I check
Center of the case facing the rear for the transfer case.  Check and add here.
The transmission is left side center.
A pump makes addition relatively easy.

"Fixing" this leakage will also involve re shimming the speedo assembly to do a 
thorough job of it.  This can get a bit fiddly not only because of the transfer 
brake removal but because the bearings need preloading after/during shimming 
adjustment.  The Haynes manual, I recall, has decent coverage of this.  
Pre-load is accomplished by a variety of means (weights on string, fishscale, 
feel) depending on the individual.  

cheers,

Jeremy    

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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:15:41 -0800
Subject: Re: Solihull Tours, ARC attendees

On Wed, 03 Apr 1996, cyoungso@direct.ca (Chris Youngson) wrote:

>Are there tours of the Solihull factory availible? 

Yes, they are available...I just took one a couple days ago :)  The problem is 
that there's a fifteen month waiting list!  If you're alone though and you call 
up, they might be able to squeeze you in.  I haven't unpacked yet but when I do, 
I'll get the proper name and number to contact.  Definitely worthwile if you can 
arrange it.

Regards,
Eric

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From: LEE.HENTY@NENE.AC.UK
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 02:17:36 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Bought a SIIa, now I have questions.

>You wrote:

>>>I gather
>>>that this means that the rear oil seal on the transfer case is shot.  Is
>	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 7 lines)]
>>On the side of the transfer case (the driver's or left side, I believe)
>>there is a square-headed bolt.  Check the transfer case oil level there.

>Center of the case facing the rear for the transfer case.  Check and add here.
>The transmission is left side center.
>A pump makes addition relatively easy.

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From: LEE.HENTY@NENE.AC.UK
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 02:34:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: re last email

sorry leaned on wrong key by mistake please accept apologies
Lee

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:42:51 -0500
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: Dormobile Roof vents

Dear All,
Hey all you Land Rover Dormobile Owners...
        Dormobile roof vent order is going in today. Anyone need one?
        Original milk colored plastic roughly 75. worst case
        Custom Clear is slightly more.
        These are exact duplicates from a factory mold, NOT a fiberglass
reproduction.
        The more ordered, the more the cost comes down.
        Thanks!
        See Ya!

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More
        Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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From: paul@frcs.alt.za (Paul Nash)
Subject: Re: Dead odometer
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 08:36:51 +1000

> My odometer is dead but the speedometer is working fine and accurately (I
> can read the speed if I bounce on my seat at the same rythm that the needle
> does). Does anybody outthere know if I can fix it and what is wrong? Since

I had a similar problem recently, and cured it as follows (this gets a
bit long-winded, so bear with me):

First, you'll have to remove the speedo head (no big deal, just open
the dash, remove the drive cable, idiot lights and insrument voltage
regulator, then undo two knurled nuts).  Now take it inside to a 
large flat surface, well-covered with newspaper.

To remove the speedo from the housing, twist the bezel (rim) until
the notches in it line up with the lugs pressed into the case.  This
is quite simple, shouldn't need much pressure, and will get the glass
out of the way.  Now undo two screws on the back, and the instrument
itself will fall out, complete with face and needle.

Look at the back of the instrument.  The drive enters and spins a
large circular magnet, which drags a copper disk which is in turn
attached to the needle.  That part works, and should be left alone.
The input drive _also_ drives the odometer, via a clever tooth-and-
pawl arrangement.  The input shaft drives a worm gear wich drives an
accentric shaft which has an arm at the end of it which describes a
rather peculiar locus (stick a screwdriver into the drive cable
socket & twist to see what I mean).

The pawl on the end of this shaft drives a toothed wheel, which 
drives the trip counter.  This drives the total distance counter
from the 1/10 digit wheel.  By spinning the input shaft, you'll see
where the motion stops, and what is broken.  In my speedo, the shaft
for the trip counter had moved to one side, allowing the toothed wheel
to disengage from the pawl.  In the end, I needed to remove the 
shaft (needle-nosed pliers) and clean up the circlip grooves (pen-
knife).  All has been well since (about 6 month).

Re-assembly and re-installation is a reversal of the above process.
Good luck!

	paul

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From: Wdcockey@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:45:53 -0500
Subject: Re: SIIA Tires

Responding to a recent question about a potential original spare tire in a
late SIIA:

>From a late SIIA U.S. LR single sheet brochure (LR712) and and a similar SIII
sheet (LR721):
Tires. Goodyear 710 x 15-Ultra-Grip (suburbanite).

So it is very likely that is the original spare.

David Cockey
Rochester, MI

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:53:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Bill Daddis <magnet@io.org>
Subject: Re: Dead odometer

On Fri, 5 Apr 1996, Paul Nash wrote:

(A lot of good info about getting into a typical Smiths or Jaeger 
speedometer, and what to look for once you have got inside.)

Maybe I can take the story of the dead dodometer a bit further, based on 
my own experience of a similar problem some (actually, many ;-) ) years ago.

Having got the speedometer head open and the works on the bench, you'll 
see the clever little worm-and-pinion / pawl and ratchet arrangement that 
drives the odometer.  The worm is brass, and the pinion it turns is 
fibre.  Now this pinion is mounted on a shaft at right angles to the 
axis of the main speedo shaft, and this pinion shaft runs in the diecast 
zinc of the speedo framework.  Over the years and miles, this steel shaft 
in a zinc bearing gets a bit sticky, until eventually it binds, with the 
result that the brass worm slices a couple of teeth off the fibre pinion 
gear.  This is what happened to the speedo in my Austin (i.e., Morris) 
Marina, and also in my Rover 90.

If you can get a replacement pinion shaft and pinion, you're OK.  
However, that's not likely to be too easy, so you can repair the thing 
yourself, with a bit of time and patience.

Take out the pinion and shaft by removing the little spring clip and pawl 
that advances the odometer wheel, then withdraw the shaft from its 
bearing.  It's probably pretty tightly stuck, so a little WD-40 or other 
penetrant may be helpful.

Once you've got it out, clean it up as best you can, removing any grease 
or bits of broken teeth from the fibre gear.

Now get a tube of silicone rubber caulking or adhesive -- the stuff that 
dries to form a rubbery solid.  Make a mould out of this stuff that 
encases the shaft and the pinion gear, with just the outer face of the 
gear open to the atmosphere.  Once the mould has cured, carefully remove 
the gear and pinion, leaving you with a nice reverse image of the 
shaft/pinion combination in rubber.

Now remove the old pinion from the shaft.

Take the rubber mould, and very carefully slice out the section 
representing the stripped pinion teeth.  Re-insert the shaft in the 
rubber mould, trying to get it into its original position.

Get some JB Weld or similar 2-part epoxy compound, mix it up, and pour it 
into the mould where the pinion used to be.  If the shaft is clean and 
oil-free, the epoxy will form a new pinion nicely bonded to the shaft.

Once the epoxy has hardened, carefully, with a fine saw blade, cut new 
teeth into the part of the pinion formed by the part of the mould you cut 
away.  Voila, a new pinion!

Re-assemble, using some moly grease or other good lubricant on the pinion 
shaft to ensure the the problem doesn't recur.

This worked fine for me on the two occasions mentioned above. 

Good luck, and if you still have problems, drop me a note -- I may be 
able to find an old pinion and shaft in my spares bin -- they're probably 
all pretty much alike.

                                      Cheers,

                                              -Bill

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
Bill Daddis -- Aurora, Ontario, Canada -- magnet@io.org
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Subject: Jacking Nas Defenders, help wanted
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 21:06:58 -0500

The Uk spec Defender's have little hoels in the bumper front and rear to 
fit the Hilift and Jack all type jacks.

How does that work with the holes in the rear x memeber for the Nas D 90?

Any experience anyone?

Robin

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:39:52 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Dormobile Roof vents

At  8:42 PM 4/4/96 -0500, Mike Smith wrote:

>Dear All,
>Hey all you Land Rover Dormobile Owners...

Mike, remember I'm down for 3, two for myself and one for David Reha

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com   <- NOTE NEW ADDRESS

Celebrating my tenth year on Usenet/Internet

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